Heewing T1 Ranger VTOL test flight and iNav autolaunch setup

[@dorelcodrutpatrasca2993]

Inav users and Developers will tell you to NOT shake the plane and they can argue why this is wrong, you can set an idle throttle to have the visual confirmation that everything is ready and that the auto launch is engaged. Thank you!

[@JoshuaBardwell]

What's the argument against shaking?

[@blackbirdboy1]

@@JoshuaBardwell Apparentley it can mess up the I term and cause problems in flight. Much better to add a delay, about 6-10 seconds. Then idle throttle of about 1500. Also decrease your launch angle rate to about 25. You can see its really struggling on launch, dragging its tail. Hope these settings help. As for disarming mid flight, we have all done, twice, so you in good company.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I set the launch angle to 40 to make sure it cleared the trees 😅

[@riccardomerli9094]

It is also fairly dangerous in case you are not careful handling the plane, since when you raise the throttle the motor won’t spin. I usually set the motor idle around 1400/1500 ( this will depend on the aircraft) and launch throttle 150/200us higher. This way the motor will start spinning only when you raise the throttle. This will also help with torque roll in case of a single motor.

[@burntnougat5341]

I always use auto launch and never shake it

[@GuyBurdick]

JB: Please! More more MORE fixed wing!!

[@HermyH66]

To re-arm in flight you can use logic conditions to override arming safety when above a certain altitude or when flying a some speed. It lets you instantly re-arm without switching out of a flight mode and lowering the throttle stick. It saved me a few times and it's less stressfull when you know that you can always re-arm no matter what.

[@cwwisk]

This

[@swissfreek]

Oh, very clever. Not something I run into often, but couldn't hurt just in case it ever was...

[@jaysonrees738]

I've never actually messed with the programming tab before, but that's some very intuitive logic. Definitely going to be applying such logic conditions to my planes from now on. Thanks for the suggestion!

[@JamesDowningFPV]

After I crashed in a body of water due to an unexpected disarm, I found the programming hack to allow rearming. Def should be just done as standard in my opinion.

[@imadabualia4843]

I think fixed wings videos with JB will always be awesomely hilarious. More please

[@QsilverFpv]

Watching this video reminds me of the first time I watched the F. PV videos from your channel. It's been three years and now, I think i'm getting into wings. Great down the rabbit hole I go again lol

[@jaysonrees738]

You're certainly having much better luck with planes than I did when I started with them. Ended up doing my first few auto launches with the roll axis reversed. Much hot glue was needed. Not the end of my silly screw-ups either!

[@HermyH66]

Nice video, but a bad thing to teach your viewers to shake'n bake when autolaunching, it causes iterm wind-up, and can mess up the launch. Just lower the parameters that define autolaunch detection, so it will always detect a launch. Also some idle throttle is good to have, it indicates that autolaunch is ready to go, so you don't have to look in the goggles for that.

[@nitro_nicksrc9629]

iNav is lots of fun. I have it in my ZOHD Drift and use autolaunch in the way you set it up eventually. Having it transition to RTH after initial autolaunch is ideal since it gives time to check VLOS that everything is going well before taking off the glasses and putting on the FPV whilst knowing that it is nicely loitering around home and you are not going to ditch it while sorting out all the FPV. Glad you are getting to grips with it and doing some fixed wing flying. I started with multi-rotors, but nowadays basically only fly fixed wing. Mostly VLOS, but I do have the Drift set up as my FPV rig with ELRS. I hope you continue to enjoy your adventures.

[@MCsCreations]

That looked like a heck of a lot of fun, Joshua!!! 😃 It's great to see you trying something new! Happy new year! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@Mupshot]

Yes I want to see more. When I started in FPV, my goal was wings, but I discovered multirotors and never went back to planes

[@cwwisk]

I always set up a logic switch to override arming safety if the plane is in 3d motion above a certain speed threshold. This means if I am holding the plane, all the safety checks still apply. But if the plane is flying and I accidentally disarm, rearming takes priority over safety checks.

[@illuminatorix]

Ohhhhhhh that's such a cool idea! I was flying this same plane while taking off in VTOL mode and my fat fingers accidently disarm it.. Yeap, It fall hahahah how do I set this ???? Thanks!!!

[@cwwisk]

@illuminatorix "Mr. D Falling With Style" has a great video on setting up inav logic programming. But basically "if" the plane has a 3d motion reading "above" a certain threshold point, arming safety checks are disabled. I'll try and post a link, but usually they block that stuff.

[@cwwisk]

@illuminatorix kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4nQqIijZriXnaM&si=QdFuA7nKn3Cr-JBb

[@illuminatorix]

@cwwisk Thank you!

[@nofearjer1]

I have totally done that with the disarm😢. I’ve never been able to rearm either Betaflight of Inav. With the “where’s home” issue, there’s a an OSD overlay for an arrow that always points to home, super useful! Thank you for posting an honest video where you are learning, and not just an always expert. ❤

[@luisdav2202]

I'm building a twin motor Lidl glider, not vtol but your videos are helping me, thank you!

[@ayougo]

Keeping warm! It’s been cold AF in Knox/Oak. Nice flight

[@phillipcoshatt]

Great video Josh. I learned not to disarm while flying back. Mild crash indeed. Great flight.

[@robertdroner]

It's fun watching you learn iNav. You're close grasshopper - keep going! 👍

[@DmytroSokil]

Nice t-shirt 💛💙

[@douglasyoung3992]

V-tol is combining passions of multi rotor and planes. I fly my lightweight dart 250 in Acro usually it just feels better. Keep up the good work Buddy!

[@gusts27]

Today you are fully UA supporter. Thank you.

[@loukasdrones3038]

Continuous trim and auto trim are totally different. Just try auto trim, it's very quick to do. Pawel has a very simple video that will make all the difference to your flight. Great videos, I'm loving VTOL

[@cagmuer]

Continuous servo trim only activates when you are in acro mode and only when the sticks are centered. So you take off, switch to acro mode and do some straight lines with hands off the sticks and it will slowly adjust the servo mid points to offset the i-term build up when you are intending to fly straight. When you disarm, it permanently saves the new servo mid points to the FC. You can see this in the OSD when you accidentally disarmed. This also means that the new mid-points are set for all the other modes. Its helpful to leave it on all the time since it can make up for a different CG point with a different battery, maybe your landing gear broke off, maybe part of your elevator broke off, you left your hatch off. Little things like that that can vary form flight to flight.

[@raphaelavenier9514]

AHAHA!!! AUTO LAUNCH !!!!so nice !!! You look so stress full... relax.... we'll learn some this to day...INAV will do for you!!...(...I'm always stress full with Auto launch....) the set up is very important, this is an important feature and thank you for your video which always explains very well.

[@BIGJON827]

Thanks so much for this! I have one of these and set it up in Mission Planner. Going to go back and set it up in INAV, I've been wanting to learn it so now I have a reason.

[@austin31376]

Actively following this build with a Heewing of my own!!

[@Tom-wl9sx]

Hi Joshua, fixed wing, now we are talking. Nice video as always 🙃

[@swissfreek]

6:30 Not so. Acro mode is stabilized but does not correct for attitude. Autrotrim will most certainly help in both Acro and Manual. You are correct that it will not change anything in Angle since Angle mode is correcting for uncommanded pitch/roll already anyway.

[@RCSurf]

why did you not go hd with this

[@bot-sk8mt]

because he had zero hd gear left

[@peppa4772]

Love this channel, giving me new insights into the hobby

[@marko4480]

Since when are you so big ua supporter bro has whole drip

[@SueMyChin]

As a UK citizen I love it. Good for JB.

[@insidei76]

Pretty pathetic indeed.

[@SueMyChin]

@@insidei76 Justify that statement.

[@breckfreeride]

Shake to wake is way old school. You can have the throttle set to say 40% in inav, so when you arm the props start spinning. You set the throttle on the controller to be the setting you want when autolaunch is done.

[@RCRitterFPV]

Ohh I like the RTH with Loiter... I could pop off goggles do something quick and it will just circle above my tree tops for a few minutes? I dig it. Man I wish I lived on top of my hill not bottom... the dude up there could have a nice setup..

[@goneviral6037]

When you disarmed it, did you lose control because you flew right into the tree couldn’t you avoid that?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I had control. Just as a drone pilot, I forgot that you still can control a plane when it's disarmed.

[@zwilkinson2]

You should get your eyes lazered man. love the videos

[@erlandfpv]

I'm Heewing T1 user, only shake that thing in my maiden, it's more good to use idle trotel around 1200, and autolaunch on the best range for this plane, mine is 1700, angle is 20degree, but 30degree its good enough to launch to the moon, 🎉🎉🎉

[@randallandrews120]

Joshua new fixed wing FPV flier here. Is this set up Digital? Your teaching skills are unmatched on KZbin. What i have been doing is with the following equipment: - 1270mm Dynam FW-190 with landing in gear removed. - Radiolink AT10 II. Says 2.5 mile range with proper RL rx. - Goggles are cheapy diversity off of Amazon. - IRealacc Tripple Feed Patch-1 and a 5 blade leaf antenna. - VTX is an AKK 200mw with a 3 blade leaf antenna on plane. - Camera is 600tvl on 180° servo. Fun stuff... Ananlog of course. I live on a sailboat. Having a VTOL fpv set up Ican use from the parking lot or end of the dock would be awesome for a quick before dark flight. Any thoughts of feed back would be appreciated. Thank you, Randall

[@JoeyscustomRC]

Hey Bardwell, I literally just won one of these T1 Rangers with vtol from…..well, let’s just call him a great guy. Intrigued by this awesome new toy I won, of course I go straight to watch KZbin videos on it. I have to say, none of the videos I watched, did people have so many issues flying this plane. Of course most of those people used the original fc and original parts and this plane seemed to be an extremely enjoyable and easy plane to fly. What I learned today, was that sometimes it’s better to just stick to the original plans and parts as the designer intended, especially when you’re trying to “teach” newbie’s how to do things correctly.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

You can go back and watch my T1 build video intro where I explicitly say I'm not an expert at planes and am just sort of documenting my process. I made this plane because I wanted to learn about iNav and planes. Having things go wrong and solving problems IS the goal.

[@JoeyscustomRC]

@ I’m not doggin on you brother, I did watch you first video yesterday….please don’t take my comment out of context….my point was that you are very good at explaining things and helping newbies out to understand the hobby. I’m definitely not green when it comes to fixed wing aircraft, but I am extremely green when it comes to quads/FPV stuff, and I sure as hell have never built or flown a hybrid VTOL. In fact, if I wouldn’t have won this Hee Wing, I would’ve probably never even considered owning one because of all the issues I hear about transitioning. So, you are one of my two go-to guys when it comes to quads and fpv, and yes I understand your passion for experimenting with different stuff…I’m an engineer, I get it…I just wish(I suppose in my own selfish way a bit, although I’m sure there are others who may agree with me) that for the sake of those of us who aren’t familiar with VTOL aircraft, you could have done a build video of the originally intended build and setup so those of us who don’t know JS about how these work, would be able to build it as intended so maybe we stood a better chance at successfully flying it. Props to you(pun most definitely intended) to you for creating something different and working through the issues, I hope to be that wise with all these different fc boards and components one day. Anyway, sorry if you took my comment the wrong way, I think we’re all here just hoping to learn new stuff from you. Hope you have a great new year and happy flying. ✌️

[@gravityfuzz]

Cool coat pilot!

[@tbommy]

I've been flying iNav for about 6 months and for autolaunch I first make sure I have my 6 satellites and then with the navigation modes switched off I spin up the motors to make sure I have throttle. Then I flip the switch to launch mode, arm the bird and get ready and then I throttle up the motors(yes, they are spinning) and launch. As soon as the plane gets to the altitude where it comes out of autolanch mode I flip it into loiter mode, go find a comfy place to sit down and don my goggles - I launch line of sight. So far autolaunch has failed only once or twice out of about 100 flights on four (so far) iNav fixed wing birds( I am also running iNav on a few 7" quads but don't like it as much as Betaflight). I am using it on a Zohd Altus, an AtomRC Penguin, a AtomRC Swordfish(flying DJI O3 with Walksnail on the other birds)) and a Reptile Dragon II. The Reptile dragon will carry a 6200mah Lipo and with crossfire and Walksnail on board I've flown it out 3.1 miles before I chickened out(still had solid video and radio link) and hit return to home. I am about halfway through my HeeWing T-1 vTol build and I was gonna use Ardupilot which I understand is a nightmare so your build video using iNav that I already know is freaking COOL! Thanks!

[@William_NS]

Stick to Ardupilot for your VTOL. Trust me, it's worth the headache. I have a T1 VTOL on Ardupilot and a T2 Cruza VTOL on inav. The way Ardupilot handles VTOL is superior.

[@bizzfpv]

Shaking your plane is not the best way to autolaunch. You can set the amount of force needed to activate the launch throttle in the gui. Darren Lines, or Mr.D "falling with style" has some really great info on the subject, and also some online tools to optimize your settings based on weight and thrust.

[@RobertoD91]

In some version of iNav, you can rearm in a few seconds if you disarm by mistake. I don't remember if this feature is in iNav 7 or 8. Thanks for your video! ❤

[@thatguysomewhere143]

Full Throttle hand launches are normal for most fixed wing RC pilots, you get used to it pretty quick.

[@aerialimagery3216]

I like to arm, and then flip the RTH mode so it will auto launch and then fly back when I get situated in the goggles so that it never is not flying itself. Also, if you disarm By mistake, you can still control the servos and try to do a dead stick landing.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Yeah I could have tried to glide it in, instead of letting it hit the tree.

[@SteveMcCormack_]

You need to calibrate your ESCs in INAV, then set idle throttle to 1250 or so, then as others have said DO NOT SHAKE IT. If its not launching for you, you need to go into the CLI and turn the launch accel, launch time and velocity lower. 40 degrees is extremely steep, generally, 30 degrees is considered very steep.

[@sergiikondrashov9075]

with much appreciation from Ukraine I want to say: cool t-shirt!

[@FlyTimeRC]

Shaking the plane isnt necessary. You can set your idle in the auto launch settings high enough that it will take off fine when you throw it. Most planes need about 75%+ but whatever works for you. Also i have mine set up so that i flip it into loiter after it gets up high enough to clear the trees. So im just used to flipping that switch and getting my goggles on and comfortable before i fly.

[@RickyGode]

I’ve disarmed in flight as well and I won’t make that mistake again. Just like you, I disarmed just after auto launch. On all my airplanes, I use t6 as my arm/disarm switch. I’ve never hit that switch on accident.

[@TheSo4ring]

Are you planning on trying out the autoland? You'll probably need to add a lidar but they are cheap. I haven't tried out the feature yet because I don't really have a nice area where I'd be comfortable trying it on purpose. But from what I've seen it's super advanced now. You can define a runway in the configurator and its will loiter above, check the wind and then fly a proper circuit and landing. I'd love to see a video like that.

[@somecooney5304]

Love this channel.

[@donaldcupp3632]

LAND is also a very nice feature of failsafe, but you need a LiDaR sensor. Putting my plane into RTH with LAND saved me a few times.

[@JaisonBuilds]

Is inav better than ardupilot?

[@unixoid33]

ardu for geeks

[@JaisonBuilds]

@@unixoid33 That explains so much...

[@Laerodrone63]

Hi It seems very cool and pretty cheap thanks for the review !

[@What..a..shambles]

Yikes.. Good content and you showed..id say somebody learnt something ❤

[@pinlock4331]

But there is a setting that will prevent disarming unless throttle stick is at zero. set disarm_kill_switch=OFF

[@AdamWeatherall]

Is there a huge battery difference in this and a normal delta wing configuration?

[@Streetreaper89]

Please Bardwell, do more fixed wings and builds. I wanna see you setup and build a long range Fpv Glider. Im also local in the area and i would love to join you flying with fixed wing and headtracking. Check out the vids, we get wild over here lol

[@swissfreek]

4:25 I think everyone I know that has messed with a VTOL plane was shocked how much current VTOL mode draws. Several crashes came as a result of underestimating how much battery life you need to keep in reserve just to come in for a landing.

[@James-n8c3r]

How long is the flight time with this plane?

[@RCRitterFPV]

When you disarm you lose all control or just thrust ? all control surfaces quit?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The control surfaces were active, but I had no thrust.

[@daniel.pendzich]

Unlike a drone, even after you disarm, you can still glide the plane down to a safe landing using the control surfaces. These still remain active.

[@RCGuyVideos]

True, but not if you go into panic mode and a tall tree is coming up in front of you. 😆

[@KamidanReady4Takeoff]

@@RCGuyVideos You will get better each time you fly. Just practice your fixed wing flights in a grass paddock no trees, once you get better you will be able to plan your flight paths out better and then even with a dead stick you can return home safely without hitting those trees!

[@jas-FPV]

Dear Mr Bardwell 😬 Since you tipped your toe into INAV…. Please use your channels to DJI to figure out, when INAV OSD will be supported 👍🏻

[@DmytroShapovalovUA]

Greetings from Ukraine! Thanks for the videos and the support! 💖

[@1988gellertgal]

Are you using the Nomad tx in that boxer? 😁 If so, what do you think about the consumption of it? I had a crash because it was draining the 5 6200mAh 2S battery wasay to fast 😕

[@NRG1991]

Why don’t you put a O3 in the ranger??

[@M4trix42]

Hi JB, Maybe one of the upcoming features of inav8 called "i-term lock" will get you rid of that bumpy acro mode. painless360 interview of inav developer marc starting at 24min. BTW: Great to see you working on that T1 vtol, because imo it's the most exciting wing project right now. Hope to see you soon on an ZOHD Dart250, which was the first step for me and a couple of friends to start with wings and still is one of the most fun to fly wings for me. And it also fits on a backpack together with a 5" so twice the fun.

[@TeddyBearPL]

First AOS-HS5 and now this crashed because of unintended disarm. Is there really no way to test that on a bench?

[@cwwisk]

There is a way to bypass arming restrictions within logic conditions

[@ua420]

Nice hat. Thanks for support

[@romanshostya4377]

Тільки бейсболка ? а футболка !? )

[@cch201992]

Needed this 🍻😎

[@lleston8927]

I think we need more inav setup content

[@probante]

Josua, out of curiosity is there any specific reason why you are using analog video nowdays?

[@3dprintmiami]

I love your work but why in the world did you go with Analog as your setup of choice on this? You of all people have much better options! I built a T1 Vtol about 2 years ago (custom 3d printed parts vs pnp) I did jump from ardu to Inav when 7 came out. Ardu has a much smoother transition and RTH is more refined but Inav is easy to setup in comparison.

[@winder6]

That was a fun video

[@timlong7289]

I enjoyed this one. Reminds me when I was a noob and made basic mistakes all the time. I love the learning process and the feeling of accomplishment. I fell out of love with INAV a bit as I had a lot of struggles with hardware issues and it is way behind Betaflight in terms of flight dynamics and tuning. Now that Betaflight has decent RTH and is getting Alt Hold and Pos Hold, I don't think I would ever use INAV on a quad now, but I can see it is still pretty essential for wings. What kind of flight time do you get?

[@staydown.normal5323]

how are you flying with no spotter?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I'm not. I have a spotter, per FAA regs. They are just not on camera.

[@staydown.normal5323]

@@JoshuaBardwell i HAD A POS TRY AND TURN ME IN ROTORFLEX OR HIS GOONS NOTHING HAPPEN LOL

[@MrBornenjap]

You should try Atomrc Dolphin instead, that beast will satisfy your spee6

[@pavelkolomiyets4487]

So you're behind all those drone sightings, Joshua?

[@pavelkolomiyets4487]

And I love your shirt!

[@derek.bodner]

I assume we all saw the chapter labeled "crashes into a tree" and immediately went to that spot, watched that, then went back and watched the rest?

[@TheLostSquadron]

OMG, I did the exact same Disarm mistake with my T1. I'm a pretty experienced line of sight flyer, and didn't anticipate the idiotic mistake of hitting Disarm and not being able to Re-Arm. Unfortunately, my T1 went into a river.

[@cwwisk]

Read the comments about logic switches

[@TheLostSquadron]

@@cwwisk Definitely for next time around, thanks. I was unable to retrieve my plane and DJI air unit. 😞

[@MikeKing-t9i]

Brother Joshua I’d like to go off subject to ask one question, what are your thoughts on the large drones that invade our cities? Your aircraft is awesomely bad ass

[@RCGuyVideos]

10:08 - Damn, that's a case of "Murphy's Law" right there: What can go wrong will go wrong! 😢 Accidentally disarming while in flight has not happened to me (yet). But I've always been afraid it might though! I also like to have my arm switch accessible for quickly turning off the motors in case of a crash, learned from my collective pitch helicopter days. One thing that helps against accidental disarm is my disarm switch has a *foam plug* on it. So I can get tactile sensation if I'm touching that switch or not. Still, it could happen with an accidental bump.

[@manueletchegaray5437]

One of my first UAV fixed wing flights I was so nervous I accidentally disarmed mid flight a few hundred meters around my area (I was triying to enable auto trim), I PANICKED and rearmed right away. Those 5 seconds the plane took to get a link I was absolutely terrified I might not be able to control it anymore, I had not properly configured RTH yet and the plane was aparently going to rth and land with unknown defaults! Fortunately the switch was setup so I could actually rearm mid air and I got the control back... but I almost s*** myself

[@giusepearturo]

love it!!!

[@hel1_yeah]

nice t-short!))

[@theKeppis]

Disarms and forgets to fly it 😅 Confused by not getting it to re-arm resulted you to go straight for the tree instead of avoiding it?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I fly drones. I forgot that you can still steer a plane when it's disarmed.

[@theKeppis]

@ hahha yes 🥲 maybe ee see a bit more fixed wing action on the future too? Best of both worlds 🤘😎

[@jarzzfpv]

Stabil❤

[@maddercat]

Isn't the point of having a vtol, so you don't have to hand launch? lol How did you get it out of the tree? roflol

[@EricBishard]

It’s Sunday, do I really need to learn something everyday?

[@gmac_83]

That's why I put my arm on a rotary switch.

[@simonwood8685]

I accidentally pressed loiter mode instead of transitioning to quad to land... I took off the Googles and expected it to be hovering and landing it Los.... No it was going in a big circle... I watched as it flew into the nearest tree with a thud lol

[@romanshostya4377]

Nice T-shirt :-) !!

[@nikhayes3396]

I do like how the OSD clearly demonstrates the benefits of a wing vs multirotor for loitering / The Battery was already reporting less than 3.3 V per cell upon initial takeoff. Battery jumps right back up to 14.8 / 3.7 v / c upon transition. I would probably take this into consideration upon landing, Try to make your landing as quick as possible or you are going to destroy your batteries pretty quickly. (posted right as he was saying the battery was spec'd with a c rating for a wing) ha. WAIT TILL THE END BEFORE YOU COMMENT ME> ohh well, either way the point stands if flying vtol, of course landing is going to pull a lot less current upon landing, but you should probably come down fairly swiftly and don't try to hover at all upon landing.

[@SetUP1]

A hobby should be a hobby, politics should not be mixed into it, regardless of the situation and different views. But for views on the channel and increasing comments, this method works

[@QQ-by6im]

Звідки ти можна здогадатися зі 100% вірогідністю.

[@DziubaOV]

Awesome t-shirt. Thanx

[@Volodymyr.Sachenko]

Nice Shirt)

[@Crucifer_Immorta]

Cool shirt

[@alexyermakov8674]

Cool outfit. Thank you for your support 😊

[@andycapusta7572]

Great video, lovely equip :) Thanks for your support!

[@CriticoolHit]

The grey goose takes his first flight.

[@rexfpv]

Can I get a shirt with your quote on it? "Oh god, i disarmed..... fuck" -JB

[@EdEditz]

Bardwell is loitering with intent. Someone call the cops!

[@adcrane]

Good man for leaving your human error in the vid.

[@illiaslipchenko1645]

Thank you for supporting Ukraine, JB! It means a world seeing you wear our colors.