HI Joshua. BetaFPV just release a new pavo20 pro with 2.2 props and bigger motor. Can you please do a comparison with the FlyLens85
@Joeyzoom4 ай бұрын
I've been flying my O3 quad with v3 goggles no problems at all. Works great
@VaporFox254 ай бұрын
Wait, i thought DJI made the Goggles 3 and the O3 air unit compatible just recently? Was this filmed before that?
@TheimportError4 ай бұрын
@@VaporFox25 yup the latest update makes it compatible with O3 so probably recorded before the initial updage
@VaporFox254 ай бұрын
@@TheimportError thanks for confirming mate
@jameseh4 ай бұрын
Support for O3 was announced like almost end of July. Bardwell must have been bulk recording months in advance 😂
@burtonguy813 ай бұрын
Can confirm currently using 03 with googles 3
@SurfingTacoMedia2 ай бұрын
they just released a patch for the disconnect no reconnect issue.
@LemurLogic4 ай бұрын
Flying this litthe bad boy for two weeks now. Really like it! Currently tinkering with settings for indoor flying, but outdoor it's a blast. Ah, and in regards to the USB-C Port. There is a USB-C Cable included with a 90° Angle, which fits!
@MisfireVideos4 ай бұрын
Came here to say this, no need to melt or modify the frame for me! (Naked)
@J_Madison4 ай бұрын
I built this frame with a stripped walksnail pro camera to fly inside and it's NICE. I recommend it.
@gospodibozhemoy21474 ай бұрын
Regarding the usb prot on O3, mine came with a tiny tiny angeled usb cable that easily fits there
@skr00zloose3 ай бұрын
bought this when it came out as my first quad in 10 years (man things have changed!) just to bash around my yard with, and I had a spare 03 from my wings that went in it. it was pretty good, but it sat on the shelf alot, just too heavy with a standard air unit, flight times left alot to be desired, and it just felt "mooshy". Ended up putting in a de-cased caddx vista / nebula pro, which removed a ton of wieght, and now I fly it every day, that wieght made all the difference. Obviously the vista isn't an 03, but it's cheaper, and lighter than an 03, and for my use, no measurable difference, other than the lack of an onboard dvr. (I don't make content, I just like flying, so not a big deal). I would like to add one thing for anyone using a de-cased HD vtx...I HIGHLY recommend installing a vtx switch, it's a half a gram worth of not killing your vtx. without the case/heatsinks, even at low power, things get hot FAST. If you crash somewhere where it takes a bit of time to get to the quad to recover, and your vtx is still on, even in low power, you will probably cook it. (edit, I have a first version, apparently the newer ones have a switched bec for the vtx). As far as durability goes, I am an ok pilot at best, and I had bounced this thing off so many objects, including a running ceiling fan after a few too many sips, and have never broken anything.
@seasnailll4 ай бұрын
I've crashed mine about 200 times. Very durable. I replaced the lower cage 1x so far. It flies great. Flight times sometimes extend to 4 minutes on the 750mah. (naked)
@DUH-rq1fe4 ай бұрын
The shown Flylens 85 is an old version, there's a new V1.3 Frame and a new GOKU F405 AIO FC V2, which has USB-C and a switchable VTX BEC, so we can finally power off the O3 by remote controller.
@ChrisHarmon14 ай бұрын
Funny how Fractal released his and Flywoo quickly followed up with same pricing.
@GearBangerFPV3 ай бұрын
Came here to point this out. The usbc FC had a problem with cutting out power to the 03 and turning the camera off mid flight. Flywoo will give you a 15% coupon to buy more of their products that they won’t stand behind
@DUH-rq1fe3 ай бұрын
@@GearBangerFPV what means had a problem? one FC? all FC?
@captainbritain67373 ай бұрын
Thanks for this detail!! Just seen the one I’ve just purchased has the new FC.
@tahaunal6264 ай бұрын
Betafpv released pro version of pavo 20. Which one will be a better choice. I am not fearing from nakeding o3 but not sure heath will be a problem. Will be my first drone 😄. I am following you at least 4 years
@RufioReed9 күн бұрын
I am absolutely loving all your videos! Thank you
@vendetta5x1115 күн бұрын
To get around the issue with the propeller guard blocking the VTX USB plug, I just took some fairly course sandpaper and sanded out a little bevel to allow the cable to move beyond the prop guard.
@PeighDayFPV4 ай бұрын
The Mobula 8 frame is made of glass. I’ve replaced about 5 of those already. I also have the FlyLens 85 HDZ and I absolutely love this quad. No frame breaks yet. LEDs built on. Really fun to fly. If you worried about the air unit being exposed to the elements FlyWoo also sells a water protection spray you can use. Would be nice if they coated it before they sent it out.
@revodrvr4 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Even with analog which is much lighter.
@PeighDayFPV4 ай бұрын
@@revodrvr I agree. My buddy has the analog version and he loves it.
@TheGodlyNoob4 ай бұрын
I have the Flylens 75 and the frame is insane, I've crashed many many times, nothing breaking, only thing that happens is the camera jumps out of socket and you put it back ezpz
@PeighDayFPV4 ай бұрын
@@TheGodlyNoob same thing happened on my 85. Camera popped out and just put it back in.
@roboedar4 ай бұрын
That is interesting. I've gone through 5 of the Flylens 85s. They are horrendously fragile specifically the grommet mount point that sits behind the camera. The reason why is because that specific mounting point is much thinner than the other 2.
@markfpv224 ай бұрын
I transformed my Cinelog 30 into a 3" with O3. I managed to get it under 250g at just 240g. It flyes great even indoor with ease.
@willpowerfpv32464 ай бұрын
I did a naked 03, the full naked, even deleted the SD card slot, and got the mob 8 down to 62 G using a 40 mm mipi. It blasted off like a rocket, but it still didn't handle with the Precision that this guy does, especially with the naked 03. They also have a very different flight characteristic. The mob 8 felt very top-heavy and squirrely, while this feels a lot more predictable and powerful, I'm assuming because a lot of the power of the motors isn't lost to vibration.
@willpowerfpv32464 ай бұрын
I just picked one of these up last week, and I'm thrilled with the performance. I even bought an extra frame so I can cut the Hoops off and fly it like a toothpick! 🥳🤙🏻🔥
@MaxWildlifePhotographer4 ай бұрын
Love this quad. Had it for a while since Potato Jet video. It flies well!
@noilkrad4 ай бұрын
Mr Bardwell, actually DJI already added DJI O3 unit support to the G3. I've tried it already with my Nazgul - it works!
@GearBangerFPV3 ай бұрын
The real oversight on Flywoos part was releasing this quad with this flight controller that had an admitted problem with cutting power to the 03 unit. Show us the video of you replacing the burnt flight controller with the new v2 white hat has a 9v 2a BEC because I think the one in this video has been discontinued. You’ll have to modify that frame slightly for the new bigger USBC plug to stick out the top. I went back and forth with getfpv and flywoo trying to fix mine, getfpv said talk to flywoo flywoo offered me a discount code for their website to buy more parts they won’t stand behind. I would love to see a video on the new GOKU F405 HD 1-2s 12A AIO ELES V2 and hear your take on this.
@jeffgarver41372 ай бұрын
I bought on of these via the link you posted on your video to flywoo. Hope you get credit. Enjoy your videos.
@bluejay98464 ай бұрын
@joshua Bardwell - the newer models of Flylens85 come with ICM 42688 gyro instead of MPU6000 They don't fly as good unfortunately. Wish flywoo stuck with the MPU 6000. Will be selling mine and find another option
@gargartgocart14 ай бұрын
for the usb i took some sand paper or dremel would work also and just shaved it down some, the 90 degree usb c thing does work but not always and its a pain if i happen to forget it.
@CozziFPV4 ай бұрын
Dude! This drone saver clip led to the most sales at once I’ve ever had! Insane !
@JoshuaBardwell4 ай бұрын
Glad to help!
@Simofly4 ай бұрын
I have it from the first time, now I mounted walksnail moonlight , still flew great I will post some videos on my channel soon because I’m really pleased with the flight performance, the propwash handling is unbelievable I really don’t know how they do it, center of gravity for sure it’s a good point
@brandon96894 ай бұрын
I can't wrap my head around buying a $100 aircraft bundled with a $230 video system that clearly wasn't designed for it. But I will 100% buy something like this as PNP/ no vtx once I have some 03's laying around in my bigger quads. Because it still looks fun as hell.
@ddegn4 ай бұрын
I have several small O3 quads. I think they're a lot of fun. I just cruise around so it doesn't take much to make me happy I like these little 2" quads. I rarely fly analog whoops since getting a couple small O3 whoops.
@gonmiguel.RealEstate.Algarve4 ай бұрын
Hi Joshua , thanks for all your content and dedication. Just to add up , O3 is already compatible with dji googles 3 . From last update :)
@RichardAFPV4 ай бұрын
The problem with aspiring to do acro in this style and size is the unprotected camera. The prop guards also create inefficiency. So while the naked 03 may be fantastic, it kinda goes against the design factors of a cinematic quad.
@DriftaholiC4 ай бұрын
Try the naked 03 on the mobula 8 just need a zip tie to hold it in. It's pretty good super light but I want to know what you think about the comparison after you've tried the mob8 vs lens with both naked.
@deezyfpv4 ай бұрын
I've got two of these. One with the default tune and one with a "mellower" tune. They are mostly amazing. Cons: frame and VTX basket aren't so durable. I've replaced 1 frame and 2 VTX baskets. Another con, at least for me, when trying to do flippy floppies it suffers from propwash, etc. Regardless of the cons, I'd buy another one.
@DUH-rq1fe4 ай бұрын
there's a new VTX basket available which is more flexible. I think it was introduced with the new V1.3 frame.
@KOrnhOliO14 ай бұрын
It's all about the weight distribution. With the 03 on top, it's obviously more top heavy. Getting the center of gravity down towards the bottom makes it fly more naturally. The camera up front is offset by the lipo, to a certain extent. But it's the 03 below the prop line that makes a significant difference. Me, I don't care about 4k footage, so I know this would fly so much better with a naked Vista and a Nebula Pro Nano camera! Just think about how low the weight would be then!!! 😎🤘
@MCsCreations4 ай бұрын
Oh well, the smell of electronic death... RIP, little quad. F. Fantastic flying and review, Joshua! Thanks! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@JPspinFPV4 ай бұрын
This is a good ol' Bardwell review, and I like that. Is it time to drop the old adage that an AIO is too risky? Up to a 3.5" basher I think maybe so. Sure, if a FET lets out the factory installed magic smoke you absolutely are stuck with replacing the whole thing. But we're seeing 45 amp FETs ... That's a lot of headroom. I'm not hearing a lot of shouting over reliability. At the end, I personally will take reliability over agility. I just don't want to be in a position where I have to warranty or replace parts because I had a bump.
@christopherconkright13174 ай бұрын
umm check your packaging you didn't need to melt the plastic they sent you a long usbc to fit
@DominionDroneDaily4 ай бұрын
Its clear that this video was recorded a few weeks ago & just posted because he referenced how "someday the O3 & the goggles 3 will be compatible" but they released that update last week
@midnitejesus4 ай бұрын
@JoshuaBardwell the Goggles 3 and Remote 3 now work with the o3 Air unit via firmware update.
@tomasjeck96694 ай бұрын
If you want to go under 250g I'd suggest GepRC cinelog 25 v2 O3 with 720mAH 4S battery have 246g and it you can do it all! I crashed it couple times and it's super durable except props (you will need some spares), you can do flips and tricks and you can also do amazing cinematic shots. Maybe you can review this one next time? :)
@sooknandannishan4 ай бұрын
would love seeing you do a video on a night vision drone build. that will be cool.
@mikebergman18174 ай бұрын
Those motors look like a Joshua Bardwell edition whoop motor lol. Very cool little bird😎
@FREEDOMFPV844 ай бұрын
This is perfect I was looking to buy a little whoop o was looking today for one only thing is I wanted a 4s whoop but one of these might do thanks jb 👍👍👍👍
@Mangemonslip3 ай бұрын
I made a naked walksnail one. 76 grams of happiness, 8 minutes of fligh time and 4,30 with a gopro naked!
@Stefan_734 ай бұрын
Thx for the review. Pls include availibility of spare parts to these whoop reviews. There are quite some deltas. According to your shirt, you will somewhen have to repair it ;-)
@galardo33034 ай бұрын
Its flywoo. U get everyting u could want as spare part. U could build the thing yourself if u wanted to....
@Stefan_734 ай бұрын
@@galardo3303 There is quite a delta on this between the whoop manufacturers. Thus it makes sense to take it as a review topic.
@SKRFPV4 ай бұрын
I have the goggles 3 and use my 5 inch with o3 airUnit, they work together 😁
@donaldcarter12064 ай бұрын
I was considering one of these. Currently i have a Betafpv meteor 85 hd and it heats up so fast.
@konradlindblad78604 ай бұрын
I hope they release a Walksnail version of this!
@fongfpv7384 ай бұрын
they did . 4K moonlight version
@AllinFPV4 ай бұрын
Although we think of them as linked, high frequency oscillation =/= prop wash. This thing is oscillating but footage is not showing that the quad is actually experiencing the destabilizing effects of propwash.
@SpAcE-gAdGeT4 ай бұрын
totally right on trying to fly out of grass with the lil guys learned my lesson after doing it a cpl times
@jbaked25854 ай бұрын
How well does the cage for the O3 protect the air unit. The Savagebee is fun with the ultra naked O3, but the cage doesn’t provide much protection for the air
@zombietoesofnothing23816 күн бұрын
So upgrading a cinelog20 to lite 04 will probably be worthy
@MyTube4Utoo3 ай бұрын
I see Flywoo has the Flylens 85 with Walksnail Moonlight 4k, too. It does start getting up there in price, but it's still significantly less than the naked O3 onboard, as would be expected. I already had a Firefly 2S Nano Baby 20 in my cart, and of course I'd have to see this video. *LOL*
@liuroot4 ай бұрын
They send a 90degre USB Cable though... that fits perfectly.
@crash_lander4 ай бұрын
I’d love to see how it flies compared to the happymodel one with bigger motors
@dmahe763 ай бұрын
@JoshuaBardwell Who makes this 'build crash repeat' tshirt ? sweet graphics!
@FelipeCristanchoАй бұрын
Could you review the cineon c20? Thanks
@SkyBlue20204 ай бұрын
The sponge under the O3 unit is glued to the outside of the plastic case. When attached to the inside, the O3 unit rose upward, making it difficult to connect to the USB port. The assembly method was incorrect.
@maurosk8184 ай бұрын
If you had to decide between this one or the geprc darkstar what would be your choice?
@shareobj4 ай бұрын
Yes. It's my current drone. I fly on it since fall 2023. However got rx loss couple times when fly lower than ground. And most big issue the KZbin. KZbin codec kills quality of original.
@jbaked25854 ай бұрын
Are you using the goggles v2? I have to convert the files from h.265 to h.264. Trying to record in 4k @ 120fps will make the video slow motion
@shareobj4 ай бұрын
@@jbaked2585 This model have o3 unit on board and I record 4k60fps on board. On my PC quality is very good. On KZbin grass becomes very blurred. And as you see on this video as well.
@yufpv3794 ай бұрын
Hey. Joasha you can reviev flywoo Lens Moonlight version 😊
@radovanthefoley4 ай бұрын
Dear brothers in arms, what are recommended battery specs for both short aggressive and also rather more conservative longer flight times? Many thanks!
@GearBangerFPV3 ай бұрын
Ive been running GNB 930
@organiccleanfoodconnectionАй бұрын
Nice video. I have the 75 and the 85 love them. Just finished your 5 inch build. What a ripper. Making our own fun at the farm. My other channel is Kriss fly. Thanks for all the great videos. You’ve bailed me out many times got some shirts and a jacket ordered too.
@demon_cuspis3 ай бұрын
Hello friend! Which drone is the quietest and which is the loudest in your opinion? What do you think? 🔊 Mobula8 HD FlyLens85 BETAFPV PAVO PICO
@Mario220819814 ай бұрын
It flies even better with 3 blade props.
@ChrisCaldwellАй бұрын
I started with an avata2, now I'm looking for a super tiny O3 so that I can reuse the goggles/remote but get something I can whip around inside with. I'm a bit confused, though. My understanding is that the goggles3/remote3 work with O3 now, and that it is on a common channel, however you pointed out that this thing has an ELRS receiver. I'm not an EE, just fumbling my way into the hobby, is this thing compatable with the goggles/remote from the Avata2 or not?
@ryidgilani89874 ай бұрын
Hi JB, what do you think of the ITSY from SPYDR Cinematics? It’s a 150 g drone with the O3 encased in a carbon fibre frame!
@5252BTC4 ай бұрын
Buy extra battery holders or make your own strap . That camera mount will get busted, buy hardware kit . Fun to fly . Don’t make it your first drone. Cinematic flights and will freestyle, however at a cost of fixing or replacing .
@sUASNews4 ай бұрын
Great thumbs Joshua
@Shauny_D4 ай бұрын
16:50 i turtle mode in the grass ALL the time or even stuck in a tree without a prop spinning even a little bit and have never had an esc fry. Crazy
@zoey101dogwablog4 ай бұрын
I want to like this drone but Im a little scared as I had the analog version of the FlyLens85 and one of the motors broke upon landing two separate times.. Im not sold on this frames reliability in how it protects the motors but hopefully if you dont ever crash or have "hard landings" it would be better for you.
@ignaciohernandezros4 ай бұрын
I’ve this at home with GPS. The drone is amazing, but the GPS unit is not. It takes 10 minutes (powered vía USB) to start obtaining sats, then I wait another 20 minutes to let the GPS obtain the almanac (note the USB power doe not turn O3 on). Even under that conditions, if you turn the GPS on two days later the almanac is lost. Maybe the GPS battery is not working but the drone was new!
@conorstewart22144 ай бұрын
Haven’t DJI already released the update to make the goggles 3 compatible with the o3 air unit?
@mrbuerger3 ай бұрын
That house is a map in Liftoff, right?
@CrowbarCromar4 ай бұрын
🆘 help. I've just bought this drone bnf but I have no idea how to arm it with DJI rc. The goggles and RC seem to be connected but I have no idea how to start the motors. Thank you 👍🏻
@RCRitterFPV3 ай бұрын
great review... all about those g's and power to weight...
@FlyingBeeFPV4 ай бұрын
I recently opted for the pavo20 because of the 3s battery and proper full air unit capability also the ability to switch between ducted and ductless fairly easily. Although everybody seems to love the flylen85 naked. I wonder why there is no bnf manufacturer offering designs that offer hotswapabillity of the o3 air unit? After all it is pretty expensive to buy one for every quad in the fleet when your never flying them at the same time. Also why buy more Air units when the O4 is around the corner? Why does betafpv for example not make a 3,5 freestyle frame that carry’s the Pavo 20 canopy? Any ideas?
@jackdwish4 ай бұрын
I think this is an old video. Before the O3 update which already supports Goggle 3. Besides, at the moment the best little tinnywhoop is Betafpv Pavo20 or the new Pavo20 Pro.
@nullfield11264 ай бұрын
Do any of these companies use Tesla's idea and utilize the O3's metal casing as part of the chassis?
@d0n0x3 ай бұрын
Nice flying, almost as good as mine (/s)
@shredproductions21783 ай бұрын
would you be able to put the original dji air unit into the Beginner DIY FPV Drone Kit - QAV-S 2 Joshua Bardwell SE 5” - HD Ready?
@JoshuaBardwell3 ай бұрын
No. It's too big. It won't fit.
@shredproductions21783 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell Allright thank you so much so the reply
@ElyPenner4 ай бұрын
What's your thoughts on the flywoo flylens 75?
@m1lk1way14 ай бұрын
Goggles 3 and the O3 air unit are compatible for like a month....
@CantFly_FPV4 ай бұрын
What is the glare or flare in the corners of the flight footage? Is that something that is unavoidable on the decased cameras?
@samuraib0bАй бұрын
I know they work with the Goggles 3 but do they work with the FPV controller 3?
@porlockos4 ай бұрын
Geeezzz JB some squatters are living in your backyard or what is that mess over there ?
@jeffdughman97414 ай бұрын
The pavo20 is the best 🤘😎
@LuisLegarreta4 ай бұрын
Is that an analogue receiver on your goggles 2, Bardwell??
@TW-pq3hn4 ай бұрын
The itsy is way better! I have crashed the crap out of mine with the naked O3 and no issues!
@manuelsolano75254 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. Burm ESC on the first fly is not very promising. Plus, having the o3 unit on the bottom Where you land Don't think it's a good idea.
@loosescrews3774 ай бұрын
Naked has its ups and downs. I didn't see much of a difference in flight time. If you need ground time or fly in +90F be careful it gets hot when the fans aren't going. It does really well when the props are on. It seemed to cause a lot of interference with my GPS and with my DJI controller reception (seemed to cause micro disconnects paired with the GPS/compass). That's controller micro disconnects causing RTH to kick in momentarily due to micro failsafe did it for me (experiences may differ). Replacing it with an original O3 corrected it. In daylight to preserve the skies and not bleach them out, set the shutter speed to 1/2000 120fps and don't use filters with the o3 unless you are looking for blur effect in your videos. You might have to set the iso at auto 1600 due to the high shutter speed letting in less light. Turn down noise like -1 and play with sharpness. With high shutter speeds, you lost the cinematic effect, but you make it up in clarity. The images are super crisp, and you retain all the colors, and you can just record in normal color mode. At night I just set it all on auto. It's horrible in low light.
@midnitejesus4 ай бұрын
How does this compare to the NeeBeeDrone Acrobee75, which has an o3 air unit on it?
@ramonsmithnz4 ай бұрын
What is the attachment on the right side of your goggles 2? Head tracking? Or mic?
@JoshuaBardwell4 ай бұрын
Head tracker.
@DominionDroneDaily4 ай бұрын
What is mounted on the front of his goggles ? I haven't seen any goggles 2 attachments
@JoshuaBardwell4 ай бұрын
It's a head tracker that is stuck on with tape.,
@Stefan-g4p4 ай бұрын
It has a goooood price to
@norbertosumares60664 ай бұрын
Any chance of getting a betaflight 4.5 cli dump for this quad? I have this and I would love to make use of EZlanding with this. Every time I land this it flips over.
@TEXASUAVSOURCE4 ай бұрын
i thought we were past the "blow a fet on turtle mode" days were over!"
@oldcray4284 ай бұрын
What are the extra stuff on your goggles?
@moriwaky4 ай бұрын
they include an especial USB and you don´t have to break the frame to plug... Joshua look deeper in the box next time! hahahaha
@droneadventure33043 ай бұрын
Hey Joshua,how you did to get O3 vtx power in your osd (1.0W value in top left corner)
@JoshuaBardwell3 ай бұрын
That's expresslrs tx power not O3.
@droneadventure33043 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell Oohh ok, thank you 😊
@appslagu47044 ай бұрын
goggles 3 is now compatible with dji 03
@ThaDuDeMaN1Ай бұрын
im so scared of the naked O3, (lol that sounds silly) but it seems like i can and will overheat and probably get shit caught in it
@willcubemakes4 ай бұрын
I love whoops 👍
@LeonEvers-l3p4 ай бұрын
Me too
@Stefan-g4p4 ай бұрын
Same
@windwalkerproductions4 ай бұрын
Already swapping my cinelog 20 over to save weight. Good for indoor/cinematic flying but wouldnt freestyle it.