Should you buy DJI or Walksnail? 🤔 Caddx FPV Goggles X Review

[@colibrifpv]

GoFilm20 Review 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4fKo2WcYt-tisk

[@tombo7719]

Went w Walksnail to put money behind the DJI competitor, as i feel they are trying to take over the industry.

[@colibrifpv]

You made the right choice, but that is a tough one for a lot of people... DJI dominates for a reason, they are the "Goliath" that can crush their competitors by doing things like asking retailers not to stock Walksnail (by offering discounts if they comply) and pricing the DJI Goggles N3 to kill off the Walksnail Goggles L. But having one unfriendly company dominate the industry is not good for us consumers, so it's nice that Walksnail is proving an alternative 👍

[@tombo7719]

@ that is so dirty, the retail deal asking not to sell walksnail. Dirty, but honestly, you take that right there, and is why US gov said no to them. There is a reason, quicker we realize, and move away the better.

[@kmieciu4ever]

Same here! Also for people in EU like myself Caddx makes it easy to unlock full band & power of their system, meanwhile it's always a guessing game with DJI whether they support a "FCC hack" or not.

[@leonblank8123]

@@kmieciu4ever another good point thanks

[@thatmanfromukraine]

Came to comments to read what other people are saying about their WS experience. I’m a newbie in FPV and decided to start with WS, the main reason - because I need a tinywhoop to fly at home. Only WS and hdzero has 1s whoops for now. I’ve ordered meteor75 and goggle x, WS VRX on its way as well. Moonlight kit. I’ve decided to give it a try. My main concerns - goggles x, I never saw Dji goggles in person, but goggles x looks good, but not so premium. Painting is fine, but filled text under paint looks cheap. Missing power button, a lot of different glitches on my unit, even produced at the end of 2024. HDMI in - just useless, again, maybe my unit, but I’m not able to get any signal through it. Except the one below. For hdmi out you have to set goggles to standard framerate to make it work with 60hz display. MacBook user? Caddx doesn’t have some agreement with Apple to properly render image in goggles for you (confirmed by caddx support, but it’s a not a part of product description), you will get a pink tint over the image. Say goodbye to any sims on your laptop. So what I have now for $450 for goggles x? (So called top goggles from caddx) Frustration, it looks like it has a good potential, but so many mistakes and qc issues that I’m not sure I should trust and stay with this system. I mean they have a lot of things I’ve been looking for like hdmi in and out, standalone vrx, something a bit cheaper than DJI. I’ll wait for VTX to come and will test it for my application, maybe it will be the way to go, but for now - I would suggest everyone to think twice before getting goggles x, better spend less and grab goggles L, seems like they are doing much better at current state. Anyone else here having the same mood like I do?

[@colibrifpv]

00:00 Intro. 00:46 Goggles X vs. DJI Goggles 01:36 Moonlight vs. DJI O3 03:53 Field of view 05:01 Latency 05:59 Design 06:31 Antennas & Range 08:20 Battery 09:18 Controls 10:18 Comfort & Fitment 12:05 Conclusions

[@blackwater7183]

Walk snail is more catered to the hobbyist. They have my money.

[@smithe68]

Really great comparison with a lot of good information for people to digest 👍👍 I switched to Walksnail from DJI earlier this year after a flying a friend’s wing with it and being stunned by how good INAV looked. I sold off all my DJI stuff except a few vistas that are collecting dust. I am now regretting selling off my DJI stuff, I should have kept it to have both. There are things I like about WS like having 1080p to the eyes on a 1s micro in my house, having complete INAV for my wings and simple mounting of VTXs and the recovery from loss of signal (this one is amazing, I turned away from a plane that was a few miles out and lost video, turned back and a count of 3 I had video back!) are all great. What I am not liking, dealing with Gyroflow even though I’ve gotten it down ok with the moonlight, (sucks with everything else imho) the clunky updating process with different cables/sd card/lack of a simple USB C port and the big one, range. I really expected more out of the range, I keep seeing people fly amazing distances and even with the True RC patches I am struggling to get over 7 miles but with stock goggles 2 I’ve gotten real close to 15 miles on the same wing in the same location. Anyways, long wall of text that most wont read but my long story short for me is, pretty much need both.

[@colibrifpv]

Hey there Eric thanks a lot for sharing your experience with Walksnail, this is super useful to know. I relate about the fiddly nature of Walksnail. Did you know that the nightly builds of Gyroflow have a lens profile for the Moonlight? Makes it drag and drop like the O3! The firmware updates and ease of use really are lacking though. And if you purged your DJI gear, great news, the new generation is on the horizon so you could rid of it before resale value tanked 👍

[@smithe68]

@ thanks for the reply! I’ve found the lens profiles for the moonlight and they do work well. I’ve got the Gofilm20 which is amazing and 3 other moonlight kits in quads with mixed results. I know that can come down to tune of course. I definitely don’t mind tinkering but sometimes I just want to fly! I sold just before the first O3 drop so that was great timing for me! Take care and thanks again.

[@elvisbest3213]

Drone looks amazing and the color is much better than the DJI and i have all DJI drone wow love it

[@colibrifpv]

Thanks a lot for your feedback, I agree that the colors on the Walksnail system do look more natural.

[@SFPFPV]

I've done every setting combination available and flown in every lighting setting possible, but my Moonlight "4k" always looks about as good as my Vista 720p footage. I ended up switching fully to WS anyways for the much better looking color OSD and no range limitations, but I sure do miss the video quality of the O3.

[@ixography]

Nice video mate! I have released a video about walksnail and dji last week and I tested the truerc antennas on goggles 2 vs stock dji antennas and honestly it doesn't matter that much as the stock antennas are maybe like 10% worse or even less.

[@jamesmichaelcabrera9613]

I saw your video. I noticed that and I have the true RC on my vrx. They don't make a big difference so i upgrades too vas antenna

[@colibrifpv]

Hey thanks for your feedback, that's really good to know about the TrueRC Antennas. I do have a set of the Walksnail patch antennas on order and I'm looking forward to testing them out. If performance is comparable to the Truer Antennas, the WS ones might be better for most people because they are cheap and you don't have to remove them all the time. I see you have a very in-depth comparison video on your channel, I'll definitely check it out!

[@ixography]

@ yes exactly I bought mine second hand from a friend for 40 euros so that was pretty cheap. Well for my walksnail they work pretty good but for DJI they do not . Sure thanks for the view😀👌🏼

[@SamCaracha]

Can you say something about the fitting and adjustability of those goggles for people with glasses?

[@colibrifpv]

Sure thing... the Goggles X have adjustable diopters but I can't recall the exact range. The Integra Goggles use a different system, they have interchangeable plastic lenses that you can insert according to your prescription. I like this system because you just insert the right lenses for your needs when you first get them and you never think about it again!

[@SamCaracha]

@@colibrifpv Thank you for your response! Yeah, I can see that, but that only works if you don't have specific glasses correcting astigmatism. In my case I could not even use contacts as a replacement. That is why I need glasses inside of the video glasses anyway and that's why I was asking, concerning the room inside the frame and also if I can fit them both of them on after the other on my nose, if you know what I mean.

[@sixtofive]

I've been really happy with the video quality from my moonlight setups. For low light performance, the Pro V2 camera is definitely better than the moonlight. Even the 1s kits are impressive for what they are.

[@colibrifpv]

That's really good to know, as you say, for what it is. I have only tried the Moonlight (not bad!) and I have a few other VTXs on order, the GT, the Nano v3, and the ProV2, none are review units, I bought them because I really want to try them out. I'm rooting for Walksnail, the world is a better place with competition 👍

[@sixtofive]

@colibrifpv I agree!

[@thumoum5248]

What about range? I have had dji with o3 but decide to sell it for WS. Now I regret it, communication with caddx is a disaster. I've been waiting for my shipment for over a month, after over 3 weeks they only sent the package. There was no such problem with DJI. Maybe I'll change my mind when I receive the X goggles, 1s kit, moonlight kit and gofilm. I would like to ask what the situation is with the range? Apparently DJI O3 has much better penetration, which is important to me. What antennas should I buy to be comparable or better, TrueRC X^2 with Stubby Combo but what about the antenna in the drone? Rush Cherry? Pagoda 2? Lollipop 4? Thank you for your advice and help. I mean the antenna for Long range 4 inches with the moonlight system

[@colibrifpv]

Hey thanks for watching! Range is actually pretty good on the Walksnail system, it's pretty much on par with DJI O3. DJI O3 might have a slight edge when it comes to penetration but honestly I just tested the range with very similar quads flying the same lines and it was practically the same. For the Goggles X - True RC stubbies could be good but won't make a huge difference. How about 2 stubbies + the Walksnail Patch antenna that replaces the LED plate? Should improve range (directional) but you can still put it in your bag without removing antennas. For true long range, go with the TrueRC patch antennas, those will make a big difference but you will have to remove them. For the GoFilm 20 - don't change the antennas, the quad has been tuned to fly with those little whip antennas and honestly they work pretty well. For Walksnail Moonlight on your 4 inch - any LHCP antenna with an I-PEX connector should work, the stock ones are okay you you can grab longer ones, I think TrueRC, Lumenier, and Foxxer make the best ones.... just don't go too long or you will have trouble tuning the quad. Good luck!

[@thumoum5248]

@ i saw that walksnail patch antenna is not working so do not even consider it. I know i need to remove truerc, that no problem. Gofilm is not for upgrade, only 4 inch build long range (flyfish atlas 4 + tmotor p1604 2850kv + speedybee mini) with moonlight (or gt kit if it fits). Maybe in future i will make true 7-8 inch build for long range with gt kit. Now it cruiser with good link quality (want to fly in the middle of forest or near lot of trees because of my living place).

[@kkazakov]

Walksnail has 50+ km record, so the range I would say is much better than DJI's.

[@thumoum5248]

@ that result is with stock antennas or custom?

[@colibrifpv]

All stock antennas in this video.

[@MLeditsofficial]

Can you make goggles x vs Dji goggles 3 when Dji 04 air unit will release

[@colibrifpv]

Thanks a lot for the suggestion, yes I am already planning a comparison Video with the Walksnail Goggles L vs. DJI Goggles N3, and then with the DJI O4 when it is eventually launched!

[@DaRealObito]

you said u were gonna post the face foam links i dont see them...........

[@colibrifpv]

You're right, really sorry I forgot to do that, I added some recommendations now 👍 Different people have different faces so foams are different for everyone, but I think you can't go wrong with the NewBeeDrone Maxcomfort for whatever goggles you're using, and same ones work for Goggles X and Goggles 2. I don't have an affiliate with them or anything they just work the best for me personally, it's like a plush memory foam that is very comfortable soaks up light leak...

[@richarddangles8896]

DJI O4 air unit will be out this month

[@colibrifpv]

Good point, but the Walksnail Goggles X should be on the market for a long time, and Caddx has promised that it will be upgradeable to their "2.0" system, whatever that is, so I thought the comparison was still worthwhile.

[@rainbowrunner1136]

I sold my goggles 2 for goggles x because I have few analog tinywhoops. I already supported caddx so much, made so many friends and new comers to get into walksnail and make their transition smooth. But then it happened. I got my expansion board and I was flying my tinywhoop (using foxeer wildfire analog vrx). On day 2nd it screwed my vrx. New VRX gone in dumpster. Now I regret, why did I even support the wrong cause. I don't know why they do experiments with customer and never focus on a refined release of product. Did anyone face this issue?

[@colibrifpv]

That's too bad, I haven't heard of that happening. Did you get in touch with Walksnail support? They are usually pretty good, and if you burned out the VRX board maybe they can send you another one and it might be a relatively easy repair? Hope it gets sorted!

[@kmieciu4ever]

Well at least DJI is honest about their lack of analog support ;-) I get that googles x were a huge letdown, so I waited and bought goggles L for $159. Ironically they have better range and penetration whan the X :-) And for analog whoops I use my analog goggles. I have no need for a analog/digital combo...

[@rainbowrunner1136]

@@colibrifpv Yes they are sending me an expansion board replacement, but the vrx is dead because of the expansion board. So its kinda loss, just because their stuff were faulty my other stuffs got screwed. I dont know, I just purchased an used goggles v2, planning to get rid of X.

[@rainbowrunner1136]

@@kmieciu4ever yea thats because the unbalanced antenna on the goggles X. Saw a video someone doing a test. And since all of them are omni and unbalanced you get overall poor range. But L is using patches so you get a better range anyways.

[@marmiko]

I prefer caddx because of pricing, compatibility and it seems more futureproof. But DJI Video footage looks way better in my opinion :(

[@colibrifpv]

You have a good point, in good lighting conditions that DJI O3 looks pretty great with that it's 10bit recording, although Walksnail could have an edge in low light.

[@elvisbest3213]

Also what type of controller i would need to fly this since i only see the goggles and drone online thanks

[@colibrifpv]

You should go with an ELRS remote to get started with either the GoFilm20 or the Pavo20Pro. A good option would be Radiometer, the Pocket is a budget choice and the Boxer is a more complete choice.

[@TopFPV]

I found this more of Walksanil promotion video, not much stated about dji all about how great Walksnail is.

[@colibrifpv]

Appreciate your feedback! I was coming from the perspective that DJI is already the accepted standard and basically sets the bar, while Walksnail is the newcomer, and now provides a real alternative. I did mention that the DJI system has better range & penetration under most circumstances and 10bit recording + a flat color profile. Thanks for watching!

[@kkazakov]

Why you always say "DJI O3 Unit" but never "CaddX Walksnail Moonlight"? "O3" would have been enough :) Anyway, I'm happy with my all WS Moonlight quads I've built. Everyone praises the O3 quality, but imho Moonlight beats it in most conditions.

[@colibrifpv]

Thanks for your feedback. I agree that the Walksnail image looks better when lighting conditions are not idea. Also, I noticed you can get Moonlight VTX's on sale right now on AliExpress if you're interested, no doubt because the new DJi system is about to drop, but may be an opportunity 👍

[@SirCrashaLot]

Ws looks terribly overexposed, sky looks really bad, but WS has one benefit missing on DJI: small receiver, so possibility to use it on HDZero and others. Not for recorded image(overexposed :) but hd link.

[@colibrifpv]

You are right about that, but I only had the ND8 that came with the GoFilm20, stronger ND might help. Have you seen the HD Nano V3? It's like $100 and only weighs 18.5g...

[@kkazakov]

That's because of the ND filter. For strong sun I usually go with ND16 or even ND32. I've been flying exclusively Moonlight last few months and I don't regret a bit.

[@kmieciu4ever]

@@kkazakov I also bought the Moonlight with an additional ND16, it was only $10 extra...

[@Kerionite]

Big battery in the radio and just plug into power on your radio

[@MrStevegibb]

Those newbee drone foams are microfibre and very abrasive I find them irritating on my skin.

[@chrisbee5481]

Might be in a few days or weeks the O3 is obsolete 😅

[@colibrifpv]

Right! But even with DJI O4 around the corner, the GogglesX should still be on the market for a good while, and Walksnail's marketing promise was that they would be upgradable for use with Walksnail "2.0", which should also be coming out soon because I'm noticing that Walksnail VTX's are either on sale or out of stock. Hopefully we will have the option to just pop in a new board in our Goggles X without having to upgrade like with the DJI system...

[@afterburnerrc6333]

@@colibrifpv I have the original WS V1 goggles which I really like as they fit like the original FS goggles, but I am not impressed with the range of the goggles/VTX's. I fly everything from Quads to FPV Jet's and the DJI O3 system just seems to have better range. I think for close in work the WS goggles are great but for range and penetration I think DJI wins. The main reason I jumped in with WS was for INAV as DJI still refuses to open the OSD for INAV users but I hear that may change with O4.

[@kkazakov]

@@afterburnerrc6333 WS has record 50+ km range. It's all about antennas and configuration. Recently I upgraded my antennas and I'm easily flying 4+km now ( Video quality still great, but I return as I don't need more range ), while previously I've struggled at even 1 km. That's on 700 mW power, while on 1.2W it was a lot worse.

[@kmieciu4ever]

@@afterburnerrc6333 DJI wins with penetration but Walksnail wins with range :-)