Why two omni antennas vs. omni and patch?

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Joshua Bardwell

Joshua Bardwell

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@mike94560
@mike94560 5 жыл бұрын
I like keeping a patch antenna on hand in case I lose a quad. I can direction find it. Take off all the omnis and put just the patch on. Turn head toward best video signal. Walk that way.
@HelloDroneRC
@HelloDroneRC 5 жыл бұрын
There is only one condition - the battery can not get out of the drone... it often happens to me: /
@thirtythreeeyes8624
@thirtythreeeyes8624 5 жыл бұрын
I take the antenna off entirely it's much more sensitive at that point and super directional. Now if I'm out a mile than a directional antenna could work but, at that point I'd probably be using the gps from the osd because if you're flying more than a half mile or so you should really have a gps on it.
@Adam-zh4hm
@Adam-zh4hm 4 жыл бұрын
@@_antwonTT6 also you can get GPS for like 10 dollars
@MatthewTaylor3
@MatthewTaylor3 4 жыл бұрын
@@_antwonTT6 For a RX, it doesn't cause any damage as it isn't transmitting anything.
@billybbob18
@billybbob18 4 жыл бұрын
That's the best way. Also, turn down your video transmitter to 25mw when you get closer (if you have smart audio.) This allows you to better differentiate a bad signal from a good one. If you had it on 800mw, then you'll get very clear video no matter which way you turn.
@quadrohazard6970
@quadrohazard6970 5 жыл бұрын
Reasons I’ve been using two axii stubbies: 1) i don’t have to take them off to put the goggles in my bag.
@michaelbryant3643
@michaelbryant3643 3 жыл бұрын
How do you attach 2?!! I even bought a wrench and the second antena has no room! Am I crazy or what
@lorenzolofino722
@lorenzolofino722 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbryant3643 I have the same problem! Did you find a solution?
@CHDGREATEST
@CHDGREATEST 3 жыл бұрын
How to fit the direction of the antenna? Can we turn it 360⁰ until fit the direction toward the sky?
@JThemelis
@JThemelis 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbryant3643 easy! Just use an extender! Ive been doing this since July and ive had great results w the Wildfire (until just 3 days ago where i pushed my limits and was shocked that my reception wasnt better!)… ill keep the antennas but swapping out my module for the Rapidfire).
@pablowasserman
@pablowasserman 4 ай бұрын
lol i was thinking the same thing. do they fit right on a skyzone sky0x4 pro?
@Rcschim
@Rcschim 5 жыл бұрын
Josh, try the following: use a patch and an Omni on a long coax. The coax should be long enough that the ant sits over your head. Now what I’ve noticed with the rapid fire: even if you go behind the patch, the module still prefers the patch while it is definitely weaker (which I see with the bars). That fact alone shows that this module is not really good in getting the most out of the theoretical dream team (patch and Omni on a long coax). So now I use the 15cm coax Omni and a tiny stubby. The long coax is easily bendable and can stay on as well. Sorry for my long comment, greets, Mario
@notice_fpv
@notice_fpv 4 ай бұрын
I know it's 5 yrs old, but this video is timely. I'm about to switch from omni/patch combo to 2 stubbies, but I'm going to use extensions to get them above the goggles and my big, water-filled head.
@theibault
@theibault 5 жыл бұрын
JB, helping all the Stevie Wonder head movers out in the FPV community.
@TateDK
@TateDK 5 жыл бұрын
Theibault 😂
@gonun69
@gonun69 5 жыл бұрын
Years ago I read that diversity is used to reduce the effects of destructive interference where part of the signal reflects of something and therefore arrives a little later at the antenna. Because the paths don't have the same lenght anymore, constructive and destructive interference can occur. So you use two antennas that are spaced out a bit, so that when one experiences destrucive interference, you can switch to the other that hopefully doesn't. My guess is that if you use two omnis, you get reduced interference problems, which in some cases might even be better than a patch.
@dirtfpv
@dirtfpv 5 жыл бұрын
One of the most basic concepts from getting your ham license is the higher the antenna, the better reception. It makes a lot of sense that putting the antennas closer to your face and goggle is going to result in weaker reception. I find too often that I'm looking down and flying behind me, and my omni isn't tall enough for that. Gotta make that effort to keep my head up. Good info, as always, JB.
@ghall05
@ghall05 2 жыл бұрын
Just got a rapid fire and discovered the following: when using the frame combining mode (as opposed to traditional diversity), the signal is fantastic while flying in the area the patch is pointed (obviously), but when flying behind the patch, the signal is much worse than if I was using a non-diversity rx with just an omni. I believe this is because the module is blending in some frames from the patch even when it is breaking up badly. Switching to 2 omnis completely solved this. The difference was amazing.
@TweakRacer
@TweakRacer 5 жыл бұрын
For the bottom omni, just use the regular stubby (not the right angle one). Still 90 degree to the top one, without the fitment issue. The other reason to use two omnis when racing is because the range/penetration of the patch isn’t needed. And the patch’s high gain can be a detriment when a competitor’s quad flies close to you on the near side of the track. Yes, even if they are on a different but nearby channel, it messes with your video signal. BTW, works great with a standard diversity module too. Not just for Rapidfire.
@mannyvarela1326
@mannyvarela1326 5 жыл бұрын
TweakRacer this is what I wanted to know. For the bottom antenna just use the regular short stubby and for the top a 90 degree one. Thanks
@prozay6856
@prozay6856 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Foxeer Lollipop Stubby and a Foxeer Patch antenna. Taking into consideration of Your video explaining antennas and placement, I have my patch antenna facing the Omni’s weakest point. I’ve always never felt comfortable flying behind me, but this video help me feel more confident in the choice I made: Fatshark Hdo Rapid Fire Module Foxeer Patch Foxeer Lollipop Stubby. Works as explained in this video; I don’t feel comfortable flying behind myself as I always fly in the same direction I am facing.
@Nick-xe2hu
@Nick-xe2hu 5 жыл бұрын
JB that was the best damn cliff's notes easy to understand way of explaining this stuff. The flashlight focus analogy of antenna db was spot on. Great video.
@Hyprmtr
@Hyprmtr 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone else hear the crack when he cranked down on that antenna? OMG Then there was no more DVR footage on the video. I bet he broke the Rx. 😂
@rickjames8897
@rickjames8897 5 жыл бұрын
Oh something broke for sure.. kinda want an update of that Joshua, what broke?
@mikotomisaka-kbhd-3975
@mikotomisaka-kbhd-3975 5 жыл бұрын
I dout it, if anything it just sounded like the shell over twisted and popped slightly
@mc-dev
@mc-dev 5 жыл бұрын
@@RobbieFPV Haha, he already dropped that too
@BrianKai
@BrianKai 5 жыл бұрын
So this is one of those things that I always wondered about, because it made perfect sense, but it made so much sense that I assumed it would be in the common sense category. Yet so many pilots, if not all, highly recommended omni and patch so I just kind of took them at their word. I'm glad I'm not the only one who questioned it.
@kuzyatron
@kuzyatron 5 жыл бұрын
I use Rapidfire and have been refusing to switch to the two omni setup (although I see everyone else at races doing it), precisely because I did a similar side-by-side comparison and didn't like what I saw. Glad to know that it wasn't because I somehow didn't have my trial two omni setup right. My setup: one omni with ~3-inch extension (the one that came with TrueRC X-Air) to clear the goggle and my head, bent slightly backward to compensate my looking down + one directional, aiming ~30-degree up. Works GREAT
@arsonistsavior
@arsonistsavior 2 жыл бұрын
3 years later after video i finally understand a little more. great content man. fyi ive been watching jb for 1 year almost and watch his latest stuff.
@ruftime
@ruftime 5 жыл бұрын
Nice test Josh! That head full of water attached to the goggles probably does more RF blocking than the goggles ?
@MrStevegibb
@MrStevegibb 5 жыл бұрын
well it depends but at least it doesn't have a significant EMF like the electronics in the goggles
@gavlarfpv7841
@gavlarfpv7841 5 жыл бұрын
Been using 2 omnis for a while now, seems to work great on eachine goggles 2, 1 straight and 1 bent over, aomway rhcp
@wild_lee_coyote
@wild_lee_coyote 5 жыл бұрын
Using the stubbies does make it easier to store, especially in a back pack. Long stems antennas will give you better reception because you get away from your radio absorbing melon. But you have to remove or cleverly pack our goggles with long stem roses. So it’s a trade off, what works best for you is totally up to you and how you fly.
@JaraFPV
@JaraFPV 5 жыл бұрын
6:30 "oh boy" that reaction you know something is absolutely broken.
@crudboy12
@crudboy12 5 жыл бұрын
I run two omni antennas and two patches, one super high gain and one medium gain. Loving the EV-200D goggles!
@DingDongDrift
@DingDongDrift 5 жыл бұрын
just hate that i have to use RP-SMA to SMA adapters
@laurentdinodrone7111
@laurentdinodrone7111 3 жыл бұрын
you put 2 omni at same side or you mix ?
@crudboy12
@crudboy12 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurentdinodrone7111 I think it would work either way but I usually run an omni and a patch on each side. I just forget the patches for miniquad stuff tho. With patches I can have acceptable video at over a mile, assuming I point my head in the right direction.
@laurentdinodrone7111
@laurentdinodrone7111 3 жыл бұрын
@@crudboy12 ok thanks
@averycaron5462
@averycaron5462 5 жыл бұрын
I use an Omni and a patch, and I usually have my head down out of habit from my box goggle days. The way I counteract this is I use a 45 degree sma adapter on my patch so that it points forwards. The adapter came with my True-D so it works out well
@markking4755
@markking4755 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr.Bardwell... you are very fast with your responses... unlike some of those other guy's... thanks again.
@tjburke79
@tjburke79 5 жыл бұрын
I run two TBS triumph’s on my rapidfire, works fantastic!👌
@sleepyheadfpv6301
@sleepyheadfpv6301 5 жыл бұрын
I always have a patch on hand, and normally did run a true rc one. But now that the v2 axii2 are out I run one stub right angle and a normal stub. Best ever!
@argyleskyfpv461
@argyleskyfpv461 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Josh. My awesome wife just bought me the ev200d and some patch anntennas for my birthday. Steppin up from some cheap box goggles. Cant wait to improve my reception!!!!!!
@mpickering54321
@mpickering54321 5 жыл бұрын
Always need to pick the antennas for your environment too. I know a lot of people stopped using patches at races, lots of people + high gain antennas means that you might pick up other people's video as well because the antenna is so sensitive. Also, with something like rapid fire, certain situations it might be better to have a left omni and a right omni, or even no antenna believe it or not in a really high multi path environment, eg CDRA Nationals inside the football practice area indoors.
@AmpHibious
@AmpHibious 5 жыл бұрын
i always run my antennas 45 degrees tilted back so i know that when i lower my head down after like a minute of flying, its still going to be horizontal.
@ThePlaneguys
@ThePlaneguys 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure they do single axis antenna trackers that fit in the module bay in the goggles.
@dmitrychoglo4782
@dmitrychoglo4782 3 жыл бұрын
I was watching this at night (I was sleepy), so after he dropped the antenna, like a minute later I was like, "Wait, didn't I drop something, I should probably look at what I dropped." And I literally started looking around my bed.
@NoName-hx4hm
@NoName-hx4hm 5 жыл бұрын
I run a crosshair extreme and a 3 turn helical with my rapidfire... Hands down best antenna combo I have tried.
@Ryasis12345
@Ryasis12345 5 жыл бұрын
I just pre-ordered my HDO2 and ordered a patch and an Omni on my TBS fusion. We shall see!!
@SCFPV
@SCFPV 5 жыл бұрын
Love my TBS fusion. I flown with 2 omnis since starting fpv almost 3 years ago. I now use a Long range lumenier axii 2 and a lumenier axii 2 stubby, with a long range axii2 on the quad. It's awesome!
@ZachRice
@ZachRice 5 жыл бұрын
I've always flown with an omni and a linear for that very reason - that half the ding dongs at races with patch antennae fly with them pointed straight at the ground. I have fewer video problems than most people and I swear the linear is my secret weapon!
@HaveFaithInGod
@HaveFaithInGod 3 жыл бұрын
What antennas do you use?
@jackiemonroejemfpv4204
@jackiemonroejemfpv4204 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks JB , been asking about that subject. But no one ever wanted to explain why they were doing it.✌️😎
@jayg9209
@jayg9209 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Still relevant over time. Would love to see a updated for digital systems n hope to see new giant quad pathes or double decker lollipop designs are almost awe inspiring. But are they practical 🤔 one must only wounder n buy n try..
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv 5 жыл бұрын
I Run Two TrueRC 5.8GHz X²-AIR Antenna's On my Laforge. I Love It Never Looking Back, The Image Is So Crisp For Days. Even When A Few Miles Out.
@Yota_Freak
@Yota_Freak 5 жыл бұрын
This video helps a lot. Just got into freestyle quads and picked up HDOs and a rapidfire module. Thank you
@leeroyjfpv8820
@leeroyjfpv8820 5 жыл бұрын
As always thanks Bardwell!
@soli3605
@soli3605 5 жыл бұрын
Man your cicadas sound SO pleasant compared to the screaming banshee's that we have in AUS Loved the video Josh, glad to he a Patriot of your channel, trying to catch one of your Monday steams but in always working haha Keep it up! Hopefully all is well after the tough times last week Happy Flying!!
@prrcpor
@prrcpor 5 жыл бұрын
What do u think of helicals? I made two. 7 turn and 5 turn They work really well for me. I use thick copper wire. I get the best range vs others with a homade 5 turn helical on my rotg01 reciever I dvr off my laptop. I was going to try two helicals on my goggles just facing different directions. I've haven't tried that yet . I always use a helical and triumph
@DT-gun
@DT-gun 5 жыл бұрын
I've been rocking a 3 turn for 2.5 years now. Great antennas and far overlooked by many.
@prrcpor
@prrcpor 5 жыл бұрын
@@DT-gun yeah that's awsome. infact I just built today another more accurate 7 turn. It's unbelievable how great it works. Better then store bought antennas. And let me tell ya I'm no expert. Very simple to build. I turn the thick copper wire on a bolt in a vise then the wire just free stands because it's thick enough. 15mm width of helicals center to center of wire, 12.9mm separation up and down between turns,50mm square or round piece of metal for ground. I use old coax from old antennas. The thicker wire also increases the band width. That's it.
@brandonharrsch8318
@brandonharrsch8318 5 жыл бұрын
I run a tripple feed/10 turn helical combo for longer ranges
@prrcpor
@prrcpor 5 жыл бұрын
@@brandonharrsch8318 what's a triple feed?
@S700KYFPV
@S700KYFPV 5 жыл бұрын
On my RF I fly a MenaceRC Periscope on the top, and a Lumenier AXII normal stubby on the bottom. Found it perfect for racing.
@Halfrightfox
@Halfrightfox Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see you redo this test with 4 omni's on the HDZero
@GroundControlRC
@GroundControlRC 5 жыл бұрын
I've never understood the use of a patch on FPV Goggles for the reasons you mentioned. With the 90 degree offset omni antennas, you're using the same principal we've used for years with our aircraft receivers to get better diversity. I think the patch would be best served on a ground station when doing long range FPV. Good explanation. See you in the Air!
@Fantazy
@Fantazy 5 жыл бұрын
Smaller is better for me, and as I don't do long range, 2 omnis offer me a better coverage at proximity flying :)
@leblan2823
@leblan2823 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you “know it all”. I have been wondering about this. The stubby would be a lot nicer in the bag. Im switching mine out like this to see how it does.
@m1sh
@m1sh 5 жыл бұрын
since I use rapidfire I´m always using two omnis...its so much more comfortable for everyday use and it doesnt affect reception in low range freestyle
@drone1477
@drone1477 5 жыл бұрын
Always love your content, and your info helped me build my first quad. Remember how you got here... being real.. this is-1st vid I’ve seen where it’s seems like ur pitching or angling for something down the road. Or maybe, you’ve got your first $ deal to continue.. in which case, I’ve been there and understand. You’re content has always been the best, but want to make sure you stay on path as a business owner.. I can’t wait till the next vid, as always.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know what you think you're picking up on. This is just a video explaining why people are using two omni antennas. There's no pitch or angle here. The video was sparked by the release of the Lumenier stubby, but you can do this with whatever antenna you want.
@drone1477
@drone1477 5 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks for your reply. Not sure either.. just seemed a little weird. Maybe bc I am used to seeing you at your desk. My apologies for assuming commercial motives- don't really know what I was thinking. Also, just watched your apology video. -- From the viewers perspective: We don't care about any of that; just love your vids. I didn't know anything about it until I saw your vid about it. And who the hell does this other guy think he is... Don't forget---YOU ARE JOSH F*%&^%^* BARDWELL- You're the man and don't have to put up with some whiney-a** small-fry business owner. Just crush him and forget it. Delete anything you want on your platform. You built it with hard work, (not him) so delete any comment that gets a little lippy, with a tone you don't like. Including mine. All the best
@dmarko326
@dmarko326 5 жыл бұрын
You should check out the FXT HD-DVR for recording. I am very pleased with the output on processed videos. Better than the actual fpv feed.
@gasser5001
@gasser5001 3 жыл бұрын
I lost it when you were all '...AND THERE HEADS ARE ALL LIKE THIS! *looks straight down*'. I literally bust out laughing. It's so true.
@rudged
@rudged 5 жыл бұрын
I'm new to fpv, I use omni + crosshair on rapidfire. I lost video signal from super clean to 0 in a split second, disarmed and the quad rolled into the water (still working) but I'll definetly buy another omni because patches are too risky when you're not doing longrange.
@prrcpor
@prrcpor 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you lost video not the signal. Maybe.
@MrShutterBug
@MrShutterBug 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I often fly whoops indoors using one RHCP omni and one LHCP omni. The drones, of course have dipoles, which are linear, but the signals bounce around like crazy and I find that having left and right omni antennas works well. Cheers!
@mmichaelsen69
@mmichaelsen69 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a newbee... this information was perfect. Thanks!
@edelossismuut3680
@edelossismuut3680 5 жыл бұрын
Du machst gute Arbeit mit dein Videos 👍🏻 You make a good job!!
@hateeternalmaver
@hateeternalmaver 5 жыл бұрын
It's funny, I recently tested this myself. Got very linear, snowy noise with two omnis. Totally flyable. But I got this abrupt breakup, felt like it's going away completely any moment with an omni and a patch.
@zombiedisposalsquad4706
@zombiedisposalsquad4706 5 жыл бұрын
I have a patch and look down a lot, but was smart enough to get a 45 connector so its pointed to where im flying
@jasonnell1477
@jasonnell1477 5 жыл бұрын
Well done JB! I just had this question so this is awesome timing! Thank you
@bunbunson27
@bunbunson27 5 жыл бұрын
I have a stubby axii on my quad and it is a drastic decrease in reception. With a stubby on a quad the frame and battery itself becomes the interference. switched to a 3 inch longer axii and the reception is now very clear in the same area as nothing blocks the antenna reception. never used a stubby before....will not again lol
@Shauny_D
@Shauny_D 4 жыл бұрын
With wireless microphones true diversity with 2 different types of attenas you always get lots of drop outs since it won’t switch back and forth as often. With 2 matching types you get consistent coverage with no drops. What is different with fpv that lets you run 2 different types without causing issues?
@ueigerchaves5726
@ueigerchaves5726 5 жыл бұрын
i use 3 omni in my ev200Dand 1 patch, one on each direction.. i like it ALOT!!!!!
@lennson
@lennson 5 жыл бұрын
me too, tbo personaly best immage ever seen/flown
@jeromelefevre8004
@jeromelefevre8004 5 жыл бұрын
why 3 omnis ? One is wasted, 2 will do the same job, and you can cover more space with a second patch
@hetlarfje
@hetlarfje 5 жыл бұрын
U must be picking up signals from flying saucers with that.
@ueigerchaves5726
@ueigerchaves5726 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeromelefevre80041 long omni Lhcp, 1 stubby Lhcp, and 1 clover leaf Rhcp to pickup multipath bounces...
@jeromelefevre8004
@jeromelefevre8004 5 жыл бұрын
@@ueigerchaves5726 I didn't know about this "polarization trick", thx !
@RickLaBanca
@RickLaBanca 5 жыл бұрын
One issue with antennas that metal I proximity will affect it also not just block. (Detuning and absorption I believe). Rule of thumb is 2 wavelengths. That would be 12 which is pretty long but shorter is still going to help vs right on the goggle. Same for the quad in proximity to the carbon/electronics I’m thinking.
@MysteryD
@MysteryD 5 жыл бұрын
Dude. I was just wondering about this yesterday. Thanks a ton for the video.
@Bournefort
@Bournefort 5 жыл бұрын
Great advice as always but what was up with that minute long setup at the beginning? Lol
@jurijperkus3180
@jurijperkus3180 5 жыл бұрын
I think that those are all rational and logical anwsers u give us, i mean it's not about having all the best gear, but it's about how u use it, where and when...
@carnagefpv8256
@carnagefpv8256 5 жыл бұрын
I run an ION positioned vertically with a triumph horizontally in front of and below it (coax is bent like a ?) To use the triumph to take care of the ION's big null and crosspolarization all at once
@Life_a_bike
@Life_a_bike 4 жыл бұрын
Thx. I learned something today. I stick with a VAS Crosshair extreme & ion v2 👌
@WildpixFPV
@WildpixFPV 5 жыл бұрын
The only reason for two "omni" antennas on my achilles module is: Flying with other pilots! It helps to avoid frequency disturbances! The patch tends to "catch" other signals better. Whenever I fly alone, always patch with omni. Been holding my head calm and aware of direction for a long time now, yay what a good habit! xD Oh, and my Omnis are sticking out above my head, just like as many others have it!
@rickjames8897
@rickjames8897 5 жыл бұрын
I have the aomways and I primarily fly in front of myself, so I run a triple feed patch and the stock aomways patch.. works for me lol
@MattyFPVx
@MattyFPVx 5 жыл бұрын
Hey JB, I use the menace RC periscope, designed to go above your head. I also use an aomway antenna, as I had a fake axi, an Uxi, and I got better range with the aomway. I may try my patch from menace RC when I go back to the spot, see if it does me any better.
@wallaceanjinho
@wallaceanjinho 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Joshua! Very helpful for me! Hugs from Italy and happy fly.
@tiagotiagot
@tiagotiagot 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how long until there are goggles that used phased array antennas to electronically "aim" and "focus" the antenna onto the quad automatically...
@MrDetectorist
@MrDetectorist 5 жыл бұрын
good stuff, i'll have to try two omni's and see if they work for where i fly.
@MilitantPeaceist
@MilitantPeaceist 5 жыл бұрын
Is it wrong that I have been using both RH & LH omnis with a whip on the quad?
@weberentertainment2962
@weberentertainment2962 5 жыл бұрын
I started to use 2 stubby omnis on my realacc achillies, just for the convinience of not having to screw on/off my antennas all the time, as I don't usually fly far from myself the range is acceptable, oven though it's not the best range wise.
@JPspinFPV
@JPspinFPV Жыл бұрын
Wow, Bardwell from 3 years ago. Covid was good for the hobby game. I can't lie, that's how I found FPV.
@frankbarajas
@frankbarajas 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, I have been flying this way for about two years now and it works well for me and I agree with this great advice. You're also right about most people dropping their head while flying and I use a couple Aomway CPs bent back so they are oriented correctly when I have the goggles on, which help avoid flying into the null of the antennas. *One question though, what DVR monitor is that?* It looks perfect for a shirt pocket! I can't help but mention that your Ultimate FPV Shopping List doesn't have any FPV DVR Monitors.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 5 жыл бұрын
Lumenier dx600 dvr
@frankbarajas
@frankbarajas 5 жыл бұрын
Joshua Bardwell - Thanks JB!
@xgoodvibesx
@xgoodvibesx 5 жыл бұрын
RE: antennas on stalks - your head is a giant blob of RF-blocking water. Getting the antenna up and away from it as much as possible is only going to be beneficial (or you could just not fly behind yourself).
@s52ft
@s52ft 5 жыл бұрын
Best combination for me is one rhcp antenna and one GP antenna. Circular and vertical polarization.
@ugpfpv361
@ugpfpv361 5 жыл бұрын
I always fly standing sideways and have my patch point out the side because I do have a tendency to look up when I fly, and having out the side no matter if I look up or down its still facing the same.
@MrBEEFCAKE26
@MrBEEFCAKE26 5 жыл бұрын
Love you videos so helpful can’t thank you enough love from uk. Keep up the great work
@CAGreve1231
@CAGreve1231 5 жыл бұрын
Rather than run 2X omnis, it would be better to run 1 omni sticking straight out and a directional aimed straight out as well. THis way the directional does most of the work and the omni covers the rest (except behind you). This is also better because the goggles will not interfere with the antenna radiation pattern as much.
@xflyer6394
@xflyer6394 5 жыл бұрын
I just switched over to two Omni antennas To check the signal on my tiny whoop and wow I had no break up
@SkyGizmmo
@SkyGizmmo 3 жыл бұрын
Wearable base station signal tracking switching (hat) with an array of patches and onmis? withRF shield in hat... Just a thought. I know face the direction of quad is a seemingly simple discipline.. So if I learn something ....always do. I will want to improve on and with that. Thanx JB
@thecraftking113
@thecraftking113 5 жыл бұрын
Um apparently i didn't know any better.. been running two omni's since the beginning . dont even own a patch .lol 👍
@flighttherapybullisticfpv133
@flighttherapybullisticfpv133 5 жыл бұрын
Ya but how far are you flying on a typical flight?
@quincypurcell5222
@quincypurcell5222 5 жыл бұрын
@@flighttherapybullisticfpv133 im the same way and it's plenty of range for short courses. It's not like I'm doing freestyle of something...
@thecraftking113
@thecraftking113 5 жыл бұрын
@@flighttherapybullisticfpv133 within 1 km . open space, fields orchards , vineyards , farmland so some buildings but not many metal structures .
@flighttherapybullisticfpv133
@flighttherapybullisticfpv133 5 жыл бұрын
@@thecraftking113 oh ya i see.. I honestly never liked running a patch until i picked up a True RC patch and now i always run one... also i do alot of medium range freestyle
@Streifenprinz
@Streifenprinz 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to use the moment to contribute the following: Hats off for the amount of content you uploaded here in the last days. Keep it up :P (btw -> will you upload a review of the "Caddx Dolphin" as soon as it is available? ;) )
@Facewizard13
@Facewizard13 5 жыл бұрын
So I guess an optimal setup would be a ground station with multiple receivers facing all directions
@TheEviling
@TheEviling 5 жыл бұрын
Or going higher up. A telescopic pole like the ones window washers use is cheap and holds cable inside. Your local HAM radio shop has the right cable, And a cheap tripod using your backpack as counterweight will hold the pole without tipping over. And you can keep using just one omni-directional antennae with this.
@hanzalapatel5922
@hanzalapatel5922 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheEviling can you please explain this ! I mean what are you talking about
@TheEviling
@TheEviling 5 жыл бұрын
Putting the antennae at the end of a long cable, and having it be high up. 5-10 meters up from the ground, most things that could lower the RF signal isnt an issue anymore.
@stevenwraight4554
@stevenwraight4554 5 жыл бұрын
Nice idea, but would have been nice to see it in action with the 2 axii's
@ChrisJohnsoniShootnRaw
@ChrisJohnsoniShootnRaw 5 жыл бұрын
I only use patch Antenna when doing mid range flying or flying some sort of bando. Other than that I use an Omni and 5 or 7 turn helical
@MrCrowleyandhisdrone
@MrCrowleyandhisdrone 4 жыл бұрын
i went with the same stubbies and it was the best combo for me. also they stay attached ant fit inside the goggle case assembled to goggles
@nicolasazar96
@nicolasazar96 4 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of having the vtx receiver on a pole away from my head and goggles
@martindragoun2911
@martindragoun2911 5 жыл бұрын
Thx for your videos Joshua, they are all very helpfull 👍🏼
@fwpsam
@fwpsam Жыл бұрын
how to install two 90 Degree Omni in the rapidfire module, seems physically not doable. thx
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell Жыл бұрын
You need a wrench to tighten down the 2nd one.
@MattxFr
@MattxFr 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very good demonstration! As long as the same problem of gain direction if affecting the transmitter antenna, do you think that one day we will see diversity transmitter? Perhaps it requires using 2 different frequencies..
@Woo-7073
@Woo-7073 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried one straight stubby and one right angle stubby? I just got my first set of fpv goggles.I accidentally ordered one straight and one right angle. Im going to give it a try today.
@SudoMimic3
@SudoMimic3 5 жыл бұрын
Deffently picking up a set of these. Thanks jb
@zachcagley9519
@zachcagley9519 3 жыл бұрын
When I fly whoops in my house, which is a 3000sf maze, I find an omni and a cross hair seem to work best.
@TateDK
@TateDK 5 жыл бұрын
Yes this was very helpful- Iam Looking for goggles and antennas now I have decided that I want to buy fat shark 🦈 so I can put rapidfire in it and those 2 antennas - it’s the only thing holding me back is my limit range on stock antenna on a ev100 - I fly almost blind- very poor antenna limit the range and my video reception in my googles- can’t for the V5 to come to Denmark 🇩🇰- my gear is Emax hawk 5 🤙 frsky xlite - big fan 🤙
@christianprogrammer9131
@christianprogrammer9131 5 жыл бұрын
Dis nigga has BEAST mode videos for like every concern or question, but Drone Mesh is catching up and overwhelming with the quickness !! I was wondering why the new kid from rotor riot had dual omnii s thank you Joshua
@benextinction__144
@benextinction__144 5 жыл бұрын
HELP NEEDED: I have a URUAV UR65 and after a small crash, motor 3 no longer spins. all it does is make a quiet buzzing sound. When arming the drone, the motors increase in noise pitch until it disarms and beeps once (long) then a gap and it beeps again (long i think). Im not sure what this corresponds to and cant find anything in the settings telling me of a problem. Is the motor unusable or can it be fixed? Apologies for this being irrelevant but i really need help from more experienced fliers.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 5 жыл бұрын
Probably the best approach is to replace the motor.
@benextinction__144
@benextinction__144 5 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell alright, I feared that might have been the case. Watched all of the vids on remapping resources but mine seemed just broke. Was a friend's which was scaring me Haha. Thanks for the help Josh
@roberttruesdell6151
@roberttruesdell6151 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a right angle and one straight. I just noticed you have two right angles. Did I get the wrong one? Also does it make sense to use the double axii instead? Or is there not much difference
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын
Double Axii has narrower coverage pattern. More range in front and back. Less top and bottom.
@tanahhuat1757
@tanahhuat1757 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Sir. Any suggestions for Eachine EV800DM antennas upgrade..?.
@flo-ridafpv5713
@flo-ridafpv5713 5 жыл бұрын
2 omnis is ONLY useful FOR RAPIDFIRE, not traditional diversity IMO patch is much more needed w less sensitive modules.
@aldenhauser9555
@aldenhauser9555 5 жыл бұрын
D Morgan I would say 2 omnis is also useful in a high mulipath environment while a patch antenna is useful for everyday flying where you cauldron face the patch antenna at a difficult place for video or if u want to go farther in one direction
@heathholcomb617
@heathholcomb617 5 жыл бұрын
Tired of trying to remember to keep my head pointed where I'm flying, think I'm going to give two omnis a shot. Now to figure out how to get two stalked Strix Hoots to stay on RapidFire at an approximately 90 degree angle.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 5 жыл бұрын
Make a V out of them.
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