Journalist says Elden Ring proves we need to trust them

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A game's journalist from The Gamer claims its time to trust video game reviewers and journalists because "they we're right about Elden Ring's DLC shadow of the Erdtree".
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@LegendaryDrops
@LegendaryDrops 27 күн бұрын
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@SpadeApeiron
@SpadeApeiron 25 күн бұрын
Trust me "I'm a Physician"
@windwielder187
@windwielder187 24 күн бұрын
@@SpadeApeiron what?
@Max_Ohm
@Max_Ohm 27 күн бұрын
These people are not journalists, they are activists. End of story.
@viddotts44
@viddotts44 27 күн бұрын
Cringe
@Max_Ohm
@Max_Ohm 27 күн бұрын
@@viddotts44 found one
@TabbyVee
@TabbyVee 27 күн бұрын
Activists doesnt feel luke the right word, propagandists seems more like it. (not political propagandists, just propagandists)
@Max_Ohm
@Max_Ohm 27 күн бұрын
@@TabbyVee fanatics, zealots, acolytes, useful idiots .. there's such a wide variety of things to call them, English is a wonderfully rich language.
@kingaxolotl262
@kingaxolotl262 27 күн бұрын
@@TabbyVeeagreed some activists are actually good people who just want equality these are propagandists they want their agenda
@SpawnOfJenova
@SpawnOfJenova 27 күн бұрын
Guy starts a "persuasive" article by immediately poisoning his audience. Forget game reviews he needs to learn how to write, period.
@bassmeo3937
@bassmeo3937 27 күн бұрын
But you don't understand, it's everyone else that's the problem!
@therealMrA
@therealMrA 27 күн бұрын
I think game journalists in general need to learn how to write. The irony of whining about wages for your writing job when you write like a hack anyway.
@Acuas
@Acuas 27 күн бұрын
@@therealMrA The problem is that most of this "journalists" are just activists that think it's the same, they're not trying to review games, they're going at them with their ideology, and then writing a review based on a checkbox list, if the game doesn't check one of those, it's bad, and the company should be targetted by bad press until they bow down and change the game, and if the game check all boxes then they will have only prise for the game. They never cared if the game was good or bad, or it has good gameplay, or an interesting lore/story.
@victordavila9812
@victordavila9812 27 күн бұрын
If they were good journalists they wouldn't be in gaming that's their biggest issue they are resentful because they hate their job they wanted to be political activists in some mainstream outlet but they got stuck talking about games they don't like writing for gamers they hate, they are talentless hacks and they attack gamers as a coping mechanism
@Solkard
@Solkard 27 күн бұрын
“My job sucks and that’s why you should appreciate me, even if I don’t do a good job.”
@Downhuman74
@Downhuman74 27 күн бұрын
Trust is earned, not given. The balls on that guy. Edit: The Gamer is a fucking trash website, BTW. Ragebait articles like that are their bread & butter where they espouse bad-take opinions then weirdly admit they're not qualified to give them. Don't give them any more attention than they deserve by highlighting another one of their garbage articles.
@actually5004
@actually5004 27 күн бұрын
They don't need our attention with all that money from Blackrock and Vanguard.
@terrylandess6072
@terrylandess6072 26 күн бұрын
Clickbait is the gift that keeps on giving. I wonder when I'll hit cap on 'do not recommend'.
@CosmicAeon
@CosmicAeon 26 күн бұрын
Yeah that's the ultimate irony. The gamer is the absolute scummiest of the scum, and proves every single day why we should not trust shameless journalists. Clickbait and ragebait is all they do.
@SonicSanctuary
@SonicSanctuary 26 күн бұрын
fuck i was gonna say that, cheers
@Acueil
@Acueil 25 күн бұрын
The Gamer is also the one who made article complaining about FF16 having no black people. Even after being explained that it's a fantasy medieval setting, they still demand black "representation" in it. Even in their own comment section which is a pure echo chamber of their ideology, the writer of the article actually go out of their way to argue with anyone who think this demand for representation is stupid.
@aeonstar293
@aeonstar293 27 күн бұрын
No journalists. Your time is done. You ruined it by gaslighting, lying, and pushing your own faults onto your audience, along with a warped worldview and political propaganda. We just wanted good games and fair reviews. How do you mess this up?
@Tuvok_Shakur
@Tuvok_Shakur 27 күн бұрын
You answered your own question lol
@forsaken841
@forsaken841 27 күн бұрын
"we shouldnt hire gamers, we should hire journalist majors from the most left universities in the country. we should hire fat lesbians that hate gamers and talk down to everyone."
@Odder-Being
@Odder-Being 27 күн бұрын
@@Tuvok_Shakur 😁
@saturationstation1446
@saturationstation1446 27 күн бұрын
you are addicts and game developers are your dealers. there is no beneficial aspect of the industry. all it does is pervert the minds of overgrown spoiled toddlers into thinking they are more special than they are. and severely impede their capacity for understanding life outside their tiny little spoiled brains.
@madelmo33
@madelmo33 27 күн бұрын
feels weird that you asked a question that you answered in the previous paragraph
@damned0wl
@damned0wl 27 күн бұрын
Imagine criticizing a cyberpunk game for "edgy aesthetics" and expecting people to take anything else you say about it seriously.
@EndThusIAm
@EndThusIAm 27 күн бұрын
Also, maybe I'm misremembering, but wasn't she also given backlash because she said "I'm not even bothering with side quests" and such? Or was that someone else? Edit: I was right, same person, but the whole situation wasn't as simple as youtubers made it out to be.
@Ghalion666
@Ghalion666 27 күн бұрын
I like JRPGs but I hate the modern punklord aesthetic Persona has. But even then I know thats a my taste thing and not a flaw with the series, journos man, dey stoopit.
@Mandingy24
@Mandingy24 27 күн бұрын
That entire review was a fucking mess and honestly just a giant projection. The "offensive depiction of minorities" had to do with the Voodoo Boys, of which there is nothing offensive. Their existence and depiction is with a specific intent surrounding who they are, where they come from, and what they do These people just cant help but to project their internal biases onto others and completely expose themselves for how they truly view the world and the people around them. People arent just people to them, we're all just monoliths to whatever intrinsic physical characteristics we were born with
@urracojalpa4481
@urracojalpa4481 27 күн бұрын
​​@@Ghalion666 They see the edgy aesthetic as something immoral and "harmful", that's why it's so important for them to speak out against it and to admonish other people not to indulge in that particular "sin". They're like Christian pastors. It's not just a matter of taste like in your case with Persona.
@humanguy3
@humanguy3 27 күн бұрын
@@EndThusIAm Must have been someone else. She explicitly stated that she couldn't stop doing side quests because she liked the Delamain side quest so much.
@Phuzzi
@Phuzzi 27 күн бұрын
I honestly will never trust/care about game journalists at this point.
@innocentbystander3317
@innocentbystander3317 26 күн бұрын
I never trust what I hear, and only half of what I see. In my opinion, anyone that has ever trusted a journalist about anything is a _complete_ fool. This opinion was confirmed when modern media corporations admitted to congress that they were "news entertainment" therefore didn't have to be factual.
@SpadeApeiron
@SpadeApeiron 25 күн бұрын
Trust me "I'm a Physician"
@pajeetsingh
@pajeetsingh 22 күн бұрын
Now? The last gaming journalist wrote in Magazines.
@Avalon64
@Avalon64 15 күн бұрын
you know its sad when I was a kid growing up to Nintendo Power and Gamepro magazines I read articles and went wow being a Game reviewer must be one of the coolest jobs in the world! You're getting paid to play and write about video games...fast forward to now and I'm amazed how even knowing how to pick up a controller or turn on the system is considered OPTIONAL skills for today's gaming "journos"
@suimeingwong2043
@suimeingwong2043 27 күн бұрын
This is purposeful, they need to generate outrage for the attention.
@Kyugorn
@Kyugorn 27 күн бұрын
Give it time. Once they get the attention they're one step closer to shutting down! This song and dance is entertainment at this point, rather than something to be taken seriously. The instant the novelty runs out, apathy kicks in. And once it does, bye bye urnalists~!
@zk0rned
@zk0rned 26 күн бұрын
@@Kyugorn Kotaku Australia is already shutting down
@wolfofragnarok1
@wolfofragnarok1 7 күн бұрын
Outrage is a finite resource. They are running out now.
@CostelloDamian
@CostelloDamian 27 күн бұрын
"I went to touch grass and the sun rejected my presence" 😂I'm so stealing this one lol
@stryker0ae
@stryker0ae 27 күн бұрын
No touch grass. Only touch grace.
@gumblybear
@gumblybear 25 күн бұрын
​@stryker0ae but what if Grace doesn't want you to touch her?
@stryker0ae
@stryker0ae 25 күн бұрын
@@gumblybear foul, maidenless comment
@monkey4386
@monkey4386 27 күн бұрын
"trust us because we said so." thats not how it works.
@agingerbeard
@agingerbeard 27 күн бұрын
"And if you don't trust me, you're a bigot." 😂
@agingerbeard
@agingerbeard 27 күн бұрын
"And if you don't trust us, you're a bigot." 😂
@SagePent395
@SagePent395 27 күн бұрын
The real game journalists now are youtube gamers that dont have bosses to impress.
@frodoadventure1
@frodoadventure1 27 күн бұрын
Adding a comment here to push this up. Spot-on.
@SagePent395
@SagePent395 27 күн бұрын
@@frodoadventure1 if you a fan of Helldivers 2 thats what my content is all about. Just another small channel doing what I can🫡
@calibula95
@calibula95 26 күн бұрын
Exactly this.
@Voidb3rg
@Voidb3rg 26 күн бұрын
Thank goodness for the Second Wind gang
@marcoagorozco
@marcoagorozco 7 күн бұрын
Yeah, I don't read the articles, youtube reviewers for me seem to give more of the background of a game, they look into any odd bugs and such, and you can tell if you think you can trust their opinion more. Also, most the youtubers will be open in saying "I don't like this game because this is a game play that does not work for me but I can see why others would like it" vs "this game play makes it impossible to enjoy the game 1/5 ducks with an f".
@pewthepuny2849
@pewthepuny2849 27 күн бұрын
You can never hate games and media journalists enough.
@suakeli
@suakeli 27 күн бұрын
It is time for video game journalists to earn our trust again
@craig9365
@craig9365 27 күн бұрын
Nah it's time for them to just fk off already. They write useless garbage. Just read steam reviews. They are thousands of times better and more useful.
@joelhodoborgas
@joelhodoborgas 27 күн бұрын
I do not care about their opinions, i never read their reviews, they are obsolete.
@phoenixrenamon4686
@phoenixrenamon4686 27 күн бұрын
At this point if I open their articles, it’s mainly for my laugh of the day. They’ve become the very thing they sought to fight off
@_Rackham
@_Rackham 27 күн бұрын
Trust is like a shattered vase, you can glue it back together, but it will never be whole again. The damage is permanent and cannot be undone.
@barahng
@barahng 27 күн бұрын
@@joelhodoborgas I feel like print games journalism was obsolete 20 years ago when old G4 was a thing. Idk how it's existed this long.
@Armstrong1781
@Armstrong1781 27 күн бұрын
just wanna say I am still wheezing at the fact that they named the easy mod ' Journalist mode '
@robsoto5834
@robsoto5834 27 күн бұрын
In the age of social media and streaming, game journalists are useless. I can just watch some gameplay and decide if I want to buy it myself.
@Acuas
@Acuas 27 күн бұрын
Good game journalists are not useless, in fact, a lot of those streamers are doing what game journalists would do, the thing is, we don't have good game journalists on these sites, or they're so buried that most people never find them. But a review made by a journalist (a good one) will always have bits that a casual Steam review won't be able to tell you, they're supposed to be professionls, that know what they're talking about, and know what their consumer wants, clearly, that's not the case for most "journalists" that for the most part, are really activists that think they're doing the same.
@pranayravi9449
@pranayravi9449 26 күн бұрын
@@Acuas Thats only because of access journalism. They get the games first, as well as direct communication to the devs and higher ups. Now companies are atleast trying to give interviews directly to content creators who play the game and who have their own organic base of fans.
@Anotherguy1st
@Anotherguy1st 26 күн бұрын
Honestly yeah usually word of mouth from friends or a handful of KZbinrs are probably the only people I trust for honest reviews of games. The KZbin ones I always question just for the mere fact that they can be bought and these companies have a lot of cash to spend.
@real_ArnoldPalmer
@real_ArnoldPalmer 26 күн бұрын
theres no difference between a journalist and a streamer. they both have their own expectations and they're in it for the money first and foremost. reviews are opinions, nothing more
@andyasbestos
@andyasbestos 25 күн бұрын
Literally all you have to do is wait one day past release find a large collection of pretty detailed reviews on Steam, written by people who payed good money and really wanted to enjoy the game. By then you'll have more than enough information to decide if a game is worth buying or not. It's especially enlightening to look at the negative reviews, and see if the points mentioned even matter to you. I'm generally not going to trust anyone who treats playing games as a job.
@BARDI77
@BARDI77 27 күн бұрын
so lets see if I understand this right because my english is not that good... this "game journalist" is directly telling us to not watch them because 99% of the gamers point of view dont aline with what they think... do they even realice they are digging their own tumb at this point?
@Malikron
@Malikron 27 күн бұрын
It's all politics - pushing their left or right leaning ideologies. FYI - your English writing is decent - I was able to understand your point! I'm always impressed when I see someone confidently talking in another language when I'm still struggling with my primary language, lol.
@SamWulfign
@SamWulfign 27 күн бұрын
Digging their own grave is the phrase your thinking of, and no, they don't. They haven't 10 years ago when they came under fire for doing under the table deals with publishers to get good reviews and they still don't by attacking their supposed "audience". I'm not surprised by this in the slightest, games journalism at this point is and has been dead for years.
@Acuas
@Acuas 27 күн бұрын
@@SamWulfign I would say they never stopped doing under the table deals, the fact that most games, even when they're bad as hell, get a 7/10, is all I need to know, the 7/10 score now a days mean absolutely nothing, because it includes the 7/10 games, and all the games below that, that this so called journalist are too scared to give the proper score because they might not get a review copy from that company next time? Or because there is some other incentives under the table? I wouldn't understand if that's not the case.
@SamWulfign
@SamWulfign 27 күн бұрын
@@Acuas Oh I wholly agree with you. they tried to deny it then be hush hush about it hoping people wouldn't remember. It's not that we forgot it's that we're tired about mentioning it.
@spcwild
@spcwild 15 күн бұрын
friendly help from an english speaker aline-> align , tumb -> tomb 👍🏻 thank you for trying to converse in english, we stupid americans appreciate it lol
@bkdris
@bkdris 27 күн бұрын
Many journalist don't complete the games, and they suck at them. Never listen to them.
@Braiam
@Braiam 27 күн бұрын
Ok, how do you know? As far I've seen, almost all reviewers get either credits or at least an ending.
@Furluge
@Furluge 27 күн бұрын
@@Braiam Uh, because they flat out tell you they don't complete games. I don't know what planet you live on but the vast majority off game journos have said time and time again they don't complete games. Typically they play a few hours until they feel they can write a review. Reviewers that complete games are a very very small minority. It's why reviews missing late game shenanigans has become a real big problem. You are probably confusing youtube and twitch streamers with game journos. Professional games journalism has been dead since around 2012.
@chesterstevens8870
@chesterstevens8870 27 күн бұрын
Yeah, that was just a straight up lie. Frosk admitted that she had a wholeass team that beat the games she'd review.
@wdf70
@wdf70 27 күн бұрын
You don't necessarily have complete the game to see what the loops are. Along with where the grinds are and are not. The problem is they don't play enough of the games to see these loops or are ignorant to them and instead make subjective reviews of their experience rather than the merits of the game itself.
@_Rackham
@_Rackham 27 күн бұрын
@@Braiam you never get to watch video game journalists play, you are thinking of streamers, two very different things.
@yumyumeatemup
@yumyumeatemup 27 күн бұрын
I think the BEST example I can pull from my memory of the absolute insincerity that pollutes modern day gaming "journalism" is the Digital Foundry discussion surrounding Stellar Blade back when it first dropped a showcase trailer. Digital Foundry, more so than ANY OTHER gaming related informer, is very technical and detail savvy when it comes to their overviews, reviews and discussions surrounding games. They sorta have to be when they deep dive into the nitty gritty details of how a game functions and performs showing all sorts of FPS charts and graphs and discussing any of the finer details of performance such as screen tearing, or artifacting or anti aliasing etc. So you can imagine MY SURPRISE when they went on this tangent in the middle of their overview discussion on Stellar Blade about how Eve looks like a child and is wearing clothing they found objectionable and just, it really had NO PLACE in the discussion of how the game was shaping up performance wise. And yet they did it anyways... because this is how they so disingenuously operate in the modern WESTERN gaming sphere. On the surface they portend to provide you with a straight forward service of giving you the low down on news, events and speculations as to how a new game coming out will play or perform. But sprinkled through out said service, are these little turd nuggets of politically driven and biased motivations to crap on or dress down any perceived SLIGHT (imagined or otherwise) to their personal morals, political leanings, values, or world view! As a customer, I gotta say, THATS NOT WHAT IM HERE FOR PEOPLE! Just give me the low down on the game. Check your biases and holier-than-thou puritanical BS at the door. The Christian right had a REAL issue with this back in the 80s and 90s and it DIDNT endear them to nerds and gamers even remotely. Now that the left is seemingly in the same spot with their inability to separate reality from fantasy, we are merely giving them the same treatment as we gave the right all those years ago. They have no leg to stand on, no right to complain. They have become the VERY THING they claim to hate.
@escthedark3709
@escthedark3709 27 күн бұрын
This. People with this sort of attitude are doomed to fall into irrelevance just like the ones who said Doom, D&D, and Harry Potter was demonic.
@TheGwarGaru
@TheGwarGaru 27 күн бұрын
Oh, those guys that can't jump-dash.
@Voldrim359
@Voldrim359 24 күн бұрын
Remember that journo that play Doom Eternal and couldn't even kill the first zombie in front of him? I wanted to say good times, but it was not
@ZarathosDaimaoh
@ZarathosDaimaoh 27 күн бұрын
Does "please trust me" even come up outside of straight up lies anyway ? Facts or easy enough to correlate opinions should be enough lol
@AdonanS
@AdonanS 27 күн бұрын
Wow...that's a good point; I never though about that. If you have data and the truth on your side-facts-then you don't need to constantly plead for people to trust you. The truth speaks for you and itself.
@Twentyand1
@Twentyand1 27 күн бұрын
"A shield of inclusivity that they hold up because the rest of the game is garbage." Cannot be more straightforward or on point than that right there. Whether its games, comics, movies or shows this is the real problem. They use minorities like a human bullet shield to deflect genuine criticism of the quality of the end product. The examples of it not mattering are slowly growing, whether its Cyberpunk 2077, Baldurs Gate or shows like Arcane...the diversity itself isnt the problem. Its when its malicious and false because they chose to use that AS the product instead of creating a good product that happens to have it.
@jackvoss1527
@jackvoss1527 26 күн бұрын
Very well said
@Nicole_whatsgood
@Nicole_whatsgood 26 күн бұрын
The amount of people hating on media simply bc of “inclusivity” is still insanely annoying. Criticize media on their merits not simply because there’s a pronoun selector in character creation
@Twentyand1
@Twentyand1 26 күн бұрын
@@Nicole_whatsgood Its entirely justified though. Why does the extreme end of the alphabet crowd get their desire for representation catered to but no other religion does?
@Jinkypigs
@Jinkypigs 26 күн бұрын
​@@Twentyand1no, both extreme sides are equally stupid, just like how both side of the usa centric "cultural" war are idiocy in the extreme, and both "sides" are equally moronic and are even similar to each other.
@user-xr9wx6ky3x
@user-xr9wx6ky3x 24 күн бұрын
​@Nicole_whatsgood I think it's because it often accompanies a lack of quality these days. It absolutely doesnt make a piece of media bad, but if half if the people you met that wore red shirts were assholes, and wouldn't stop talking about how great their red shirt was, you'd probably look at everyone that wore red a little differently.
@Furluge
@Furluge 27 күн бұрын
Can you imagine if Car and Driver, or other car enthusiast media, wrote about cars and car enthusiasts the way these game journos write about game enthusiasts? Can you imagine if every issue was saying that car repairs and modification should be illegal, we had to stop using gasoline now, sports cars are the devil and you were evil if you drove one, if you have an old car you need to turn it in for scrap for green initiatives, and that everyone needs to switch to a plug in electric smart car for city driving and switch to mass transit for out of city driving, while following electricity rationing due to the lower power output of wind and solar. Do you think that publication would do well? HELL NO! But these game journos do the equivalent thing with games and they wonder why everyone hates them and won't buy what they're selling. It's insane. This is what happens when you create an entire industry out of people who got useless degrees from a college industry that seems more concerned with churning out useless grads instead of getting important roles filled. It seems every game journo wanted to work at the times and quickly found out they weren't cut out for it and it was either this or shilling pharma drugs.
@saturationstation1446
@saturationstation1446 27 күн бұрын
cars are for adults. games are literally made for exploiting bored well off CHILDREN
@bmacaulay18
@bmacaulay18 26 күн бұрын
That's probably one of the best comparisons anyone has shown.
@WyattStrange
@WyattStrange 24 күн бұрын
That's a great and sad analogy, and you want to know why it's sad? Because I've read serious articles about cars saying the exact same points you've you used as hyperbole.
@-Blue-_
@-Blue-_ 23 күн бұрын
People with gender studies degrees are like this game journalist
@fabioeliasreisritter8827
@fabioeliasreisritter8827 27 күн бұрын
There's a ton more reasons to not trust/respect game journalist reviews: "Hot take" titles to get more clicks, paid good reviews for bad games, calling out gaming companies for their non inclusive/difficult games, starting drama to also get more clicks... It's like trusting any comments on twitter. I just wait for the games to drop and watch some yt videos from creators that I trust to see if there's any red flags.
@D00ML0RDThe1
@D00ML0RDThe1 27 күн бұрын
Trust is hard to earn easy to lose and very hard to reearn after. And they aint exactly going in a direction to reearn earn mine.
@psychodrummer1567
@psychodrummer1567 27 күн бұрын
hahaha. Oh wait, they're serious? Let me laugh even harder! HAHAHA!
@ervain3561
@ervain3561 27 күн бұрын
HAHAHA!!
@relishcakes4525
@relishcakes4525 27 күн бұрын
This is the part where we throw our heads back and laugh.
@noahloyd9176
@noahloyd9176 27 күн бұрын
To me, the progession is very clear. When KZbin reviews of video games, along with playthroughs from channels large and small, became a thing, gamers were able to see gamers playing games. They saw someone playing games for the simple reason thay they love to play video games, experiencing the same bugs and issues, laughing at the the same physics glitches in Skyirm, and more; it was something that not only was easy to identify with, but more human and less corporate: A more honest game review. Needless to say, this has become an increasingly large viewership base, with hundreds or thousands of viewers who love a certain game jumping over to watch a stream from someone new who picks it up, ballooning their subscriber numbers overnight. But most importantly, it puts a face, a voice, or simply a "real human" behind those videos and channels, someone who responds to comments or addresses things people say, and with streaming becoming more and more relevant, more and more of the time someone can send a message to the person playing the game and get a response immediately. There's community, humanity, and a general sense of almost family around so many of these channels (consider the one we're on here.) Not so for journalists. At most, they have a photo of them posing in a suit with a stiff smile plastered on their face sitting in a blurry office; at worst, they'll have a pen-name or an alias instead of an actual author's name (having an alias works fine for a streamer or gaming channel because that's a gamer thing, most of us have gamertags, someone from outside doing it feels like mockery to some extent.) If they deign to allow comments on an article, the author never responds to questions or feedback. It's like a mask, impersonal and distant, which you can't identify with nearly as much. To me, it seemed at the time almost the embodiment of that "stop having fun!!!" meme, where the gamers are all in a group together playing and discussing and reviewing games for themselves, and the journalist is outside screaming for attention, irrelevant. The days of outsiders telling us how to play games, or how to perceive games, were over, replaced by informative and funny videos, streams, wiki pages, walkthroughs and guides by fellow gamers. Like a society discovering farming and suddenly becoming independent from outside food suppliers, the gamers were free, and the suppliers were mad. Then came the tryhard times; journalists, who really were from the "outside", subsequently proved how disconnected from the rest of us they are by trying to 'hello fellow kids' us into watching them do what our own streamers did; playing a game and letting us see it happen, instead of playing however little they used to off-screen and then scribbling out their personal review (I like to refer to this era as the rise of the IGNorant.) Needless to say, most of them got cooked over this (there's a reason everyone goes back to that video showing a literal stupid pigeon playing Cuphead better than a journalist), because they were part of an industry where they got paid to write things first and foremost, and where anything else was secondary, including literacy on the subject. So, what happened? The journalists figured out that they had been left behind, an irrelevant industry, a footnote, history. That's when we entered into the third age, the Age of Aggression. Suddenly, it seemed like everyone in the games journalism industry was writing articles about gamers being bad people, liking bad things, embracing bad traits, living bad lives in bad houses, believing in bad things, having bad hygiene, and being bad to other people. Suddenly, the very audience they had originally been intended to serve became the villains of the story (an irony that the same thing has happened to Hollywood) and the journalists began to use almost every platform they could to spread the word on just how wretched the "gamer" is, to put them down and call them refuse. Suddenly, larger publications like Forbes got involved, trying to spread this ridiculous smear campaign farther among broader audiences in an effort to rally support to "crush the istic, phobic, toxic gamers!" Suddenly, they proved to all of us that they were driven by agendas, greed, and revenge, not by trying to provide a product or a service. Is it any wonder they utterly abhor Kabrutus and DEIdetected for calling out the invasion of our pastimes and joy? Is it any wonder they have ranged themselves against us in an effort to corrupt the companies, studios and teams who make games for us? Is it any wonder that so many gamers immediately assume journalists are bad at games and seethe over it by calling games, or us, bad, instead of getting gud? Is it any wonder that so many of us can't help but keep an eye out for token inclusivity, pointless virtue-signalling, and "modern character designs for modern audiences", and that we feel a little piece of our culture die every time another blow is struck against it, when the vast majority of us have never done *anything* to hurt these journalists, consulting companies, or dev teams? Is it any wonder we have no trust in them? I've heard an expression attributed to, I believe it was Miyamoto Musashi, and if not to him specifically, then to other samurai of the time or to Bushido itself, that goes something like this: Man is born with a measure of honor to his name, from which he can only lose honor, and which he can never regain when lost, even if he tries to attone. Since, ironically, corporations seem to be treated before the law as having the same sorts of indelible rights as individuals, then corporations, too, may be said to be created with a measure of honor, or journalists, or politicians, or movie directors. So too are they able to forfeit that honor, and so too are they unable to reclaim it once lost. Despite trolls and such being a big part of gamer culture, there's always been parts where a sort of honor is maintained (heck, just look up the thousands of videos of honorable duels in Dark Souls III fight clubs for an example.) It's really not a stretch to describe the gamers as their own, albeit quirky, breed of "samurai" with their own sets of values and honor, and to perceive outsiders trying to break in and tear it all down as filthy gaijin invaders, honorless dogs who cannot be trusted. Let this be a lesson: Don't attack your customers if you don't want them to despise you.
@barunto1
@barunto1 27 күн бұрын
Absolutely amazing. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@iamdoom9810
@iamdoom9810 27 күн бұрын
It should be people like you who write on the condition of the industry profressionally. Only then will we actually see this hobby we've come to adore become sustainable once more.
@AdonanS
@AdonanS 27 күн бұрын
Shit, that was long. I'm surprised I read all of it. Not sure I agree with the sentiment that honor, once lost can't be regained. It sounds very defeatist, and seems to imply (to me) that you might as well dig deeper into the hole if you aren't pulling yourself out. Maybe that's why these people double down so often.
@noahloyd9176
@noahloyd9176 27 күн бұрын
@@AdonanS I don't claim to be a moderator of honor; most "honor" systems end up being little more than contrived notions for the "in" crowd to feel more self-righteousness than those on the outside, and often expect genuinely stupid actions to prove one's "honor". But what I can compare it to is general public sentiment; whether it's right or wrong (or even inconsistent), there are times when a public figure, a nation, a group of people, a company, or whatever it is garners a negative reputation, and there are very, very few cases in history of thoroughly negative public sentiment being fully reversible. Even if that sentiment is only in a minimal percentage of the public, that doesn't make its simmering dissatisfaction any less genuine, or less prone to enduring regardless of any efforts to reverse it. You're right though, most of them do double down on their stances over time or when accosted over them. That behavior is more akin to a cult (which most progressive behaviors and even rhetoric parallels almost perfectly), and cults don't apologize to "heretics", they persecute them. Even if we don't consider it a cult mentality, the simple aspect of human nature that people tend to have pride and don't like to be told they're wrong, irrelevant, or anything less than the most special pretty princesses anywhere; how ironic it is that the chiefest of the seven deadly sins is a rallying cry for them. Humility is the opposite: Make a mistake? Acknowledge it and learn from it to grow into a wiser and better person. Pride makes people refuse to admit they can be wrong. Another kind of pride is patriotism, and people love to feel like patriots, heroes of justice, by espousing causes like social justice. Having been on the inside of a religious cult, once upon a time, I've seen human pride lead people to turn on their audiences just to try to prove they're holier than thou. Morality is considered a religious thing, but when topics completely deviating from religion - like, say video games - inspire nearly an entire group of people to call other people moral degenerates, to say that they're wrong or bad or evil, or even openly admit to hating them over something as simple as a character design, goes a long way toward proving how morally corrupt they really are behind their flags and masks. A humble man knows he has flaws and admits to his mistakes so he can learn from them; he listens to feedback, because he knows he may not be able to see the whole picture from where he stands. That's something the games journalists, on the whole, can almost never do: Admit when they're wrong. It's really, really hard to trust someone who refuses to let life itself paint them as wrong about something.
@iRunKids
@iRunKids 27 күн бұрын
Bro, post this on Substack, not the YT comments, lol
@Vaytra
@Vaytra 27 күн бұрын
It's a bit tiring that games journalists are just writing their articles for the haters to hate read. Journalists should just leave Twitter, it seems to be dominating their minds and work too much.
@luketfer
@luketfer 27 күн бұрын
Honestly just not being active on twitter AT ALL is healthier for a lot of people. The place is a cesspool of toxicity in the 'culture war' and not engaging with it is the key. Don't want to see Maga idiots give their dumb opinions, get off twitter. Don't want to see radical feminists give their opinions? Get off twitter.
@Enjoyurble
@Enjoyurble 27 күн бұрын
Journalism in general is getting gutted, along with dozens of other formerly stable jobs but, in general, when it comes to entertainment (Games, Movies, Music, etc.) it really is ideal to just find reviewers and people in general who have similar interests as you do. Honestly, in this case in particular as long as your echo chambers are focused more on things you love than things you hate it's (usually) fine, but negativity is what sells so much it can sometimes feel completely exhausting just finding those people. Not to mention people change. Such is life.
@Captain.Kincayd
@Captain.Kincayd 27 күн бұрын
this is such cope, I'm 3 sentences in and hate this journalist.
@Greybush041
@Greybush041 27 күн бұрын
My attempt at being a game journo "NASCAR 2024 Track design is uninspired, mostly consisting of Ovals, 1/10 too many left turns"
@bmacaulay18
@bmacaulay18 26 күн бұрын
Sorry. You need at least 2500 words in order to submit an article. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@neoconker2k8
@neoconker2k8 27 күн бұрын
Again ? When the fuck did i ever listen to game "Journalists" .😂
@VitalVampyr
@VitalVampyr 19 күн бұрын
You must be pretty young. A decade or so ago games journalists had some credibility and two decades ago you pretty much had to listen to them if you wanted any news from the games industry.
@neoconker2k8
@neoconker2k8 19 күн бұрын
@VitalVampyr I'm 35 ... I remember when they were the only "news," but I never gave two shits about the reviews .
@mahumia
@mahumia 27 күн бұрын
Actively hating on your customers pushes them away, who would have thunketh? But to be honest, I have always preferred reviews from independent people or friends over a journalist who is most likely coerced into writing a positive review (otherwise they will not get a preview again next time or no paycheck). Steam reviews and discussions on reddit work better for me at least...
@bmacaulay18
@bmacaulay18 26 күн бұрын
You don't really want someone's opinion that was bought and paid for.
@AlbinoMutant
@AlbinoMutant 26 күн бұрын
I have teenagers, man. You think I need a game critic to tell me what's good? One guy at my kids' school pirates the game and plays it and then spreads the word across school if its good. If I haven't heard of it, it's not good. And oh by the way, they wouldn't stop talking about Elden Ring for 6 months. Never heard anyone talk of a game for that long. So of course I bought it and played it. Playing through the DLC now. And it's as good as they said. They've never steered me wrong, these kids.
@warhammerguy
@warhammerguy 25 күн бұрын
"Game reviews are objective and no game reviewer is out to ruin a developer". Anyone remember when Kingdom come: Deliverance either got bad to middling reviews or no coverage at all because there was not enough diversity in a game based on historically accurate version of the medieval Europe country of bohemia and the lead dev refused to back down from pressure from "journalists" to change it into a medieval version of LA? The first IGN articles covering KCD2 was about their "controversial sins of the past". The same happened to a lesser degree with Final Fantasy 16 and when Square lost money after several previous bad investment into stuff like NFT's the articles tried to make it seem that it was FF16's fault that the company lost money despite being one of the best selling games that year.
@LabelsAreMeaningless
@LabelsAreMeaningless 27 күн бұрын
They are targeting the reader. They are trying to lecture, guilt and shame people into giving them respect and doing what they want. This has become the norm, it's toxic and needs to be abolished entirely. We don't need them as we have many options for seeing an actual review. Being told what we should like and how we should feel..is absurd and not how this works. It's not just gaming media, it's all corporate media. No longer providing an informative service, but instead trying to force people to think and feel ways they feel are appropriate. Why pay for a lecture is a good summary. Even if it's 'free' it's not. No one should enable it by listening. I don't mind the occasional opinion piece which is clearly labelled as this, but the media is outright hostile toward the people they need to stay afloat. Never bite the hand that feeds you, through payment or watching your ads.
@daemian2k
@daemian2k 27 күн бұрын
LOL journalist mode that's funny
@notYisan
@notYisan 27 күн бұрын
game journalist SHOULD BE GOOD AT GAMES! that is their job. they must be objective, concise, and can spit out an educated opinion about a game. this article are pure projection. trust are earned and their conduct leave a lot to be desired. game journalist also need to distance themselves from game activist, right now they are indistinguishable.
@TheOneGreat
@TheOneGreat 27 күн бұрын
I don't think that's true. If a rocket explodes then you don't need to be a rocket scientist in order to see what's wrong with it. I get what you mean, but it's more nuanced than that. Maybe it should be more like base competency? Maybe you meant that and I got it wrong. lol
@Mytelefe
@Mytelefe 27 күн бұрын
Journalists being bad at video games is one of the smallest issue with gaming journalism. It was just a red herring threw in by this lying piece of work and even while doing that he couldn't help himself and had to straw-man and misrepresent it.
@psyanidemcpsy6501
@psyanidemcpsy6501 27 күн бұрын
​@@TheOneGreat ''If a rocket explodes then you don't need to be a rocket scientist in order to see what's wrong with it'' Incorrect, you know it exploded, yes, but you don't know why, which could be one or more aspect(s) of the the rocket.
@mrcookies409
@mrcookies409 27 күн бұрын
I still remember reading gamespot and gamespy back in the late 90s, early 00s. It's night and day compared to today.
@innocentsmith6091
@innocentsmith6091 27 күн бұрын
You don't need to be a good aeronautical engineer to understand why a rocket exploded, but you still need some level understanding. For example, you might suck at Elden Ring because you have bad timing, but you can still understand the mechanics well enough that you don't blame the game for making it too hard to dodge when you are in fact fat rolling. If we wanted an uninformed, surface level impression of the game, we wouldn't need a journalist, se could just ask Billy down the street.
@lordvesel
@lordvesel 27 күн бұрын
Imagine a cashier at a store starting to talk shit about you as a person, if you ask them questions about a product.
@Buugipopuu
@Buugipopuu 27 күн бұрын
It's pretty easy to write plausible reasons as to why the game journos hate games: They wanted to use game journalism as a stepping stone to more prestigious journalism, but failed. When they graduated with their degrees in journalism, they imagined they'd be interviewing world leaders or exposing billion-dollar corporate scandals, but instead they have to write a review of Generic Live Service Looter Shooter #123657 by the end of the week and give it at least an 8/10 or the Chinese megacorporation that owns it will pull the ads that make up 40% of their revenue. Also explains why so many of them are so active on social media: They know they're in a dead-end gig, and are trying to leverage it for as much clout as possible in the hopes that it lands them something better.
@wafflehaxxx
@wafflehaxxx 26 күн бұрын
This is exactly what I've been saying. They had grans visions of writing pieces that would influence the world in their vision, except they got hired for the gaming division because they know how to operate a console. They detest this and try to instead force their politics and viewpoints into gaming.
@thegreendank1
@thegreendank1 27 күн бұрын
Journalists as a whole are invaluable, once they tell me to do something, say something, act a certain way, i do the exact opposite. Its literally saved my life at least once.
@EastyyBlogspot
@EastyyBlogspot 27 күн бұрын
Trouble is there are so many articles nowdays that are less about the games and more about a stance either political or ideology. I was looking at some games mags from the 90s and just seeing them talk about the games and little else was refreshing
@escthedark3709
@escthedark3709 27 күн бұрын
This. I get that things are more polarized these days, but it wouldn't kill any of these journalists to be inclusive towards people with opinions that are different of their own.
@toledochristianmatthew9919
@toledochristianmatthew9919 26 күн бұрын
​@@escthedark3709or focus on the game itself. I swear the worst one was the review for the ps5 where it doesn't even talk about the specs or upcoming games for the console but the writer's politics and nastiness just spewing throughout the article. How is stuff Luke this approved?
@cablefeed3738
@cablefeed3738 26 күн бұрын
​@@escthedark3709And it wouldn't kill readers to be fine with minorities being in games without screaming D.i.D
@plague180
@plague180 27 күн бұрын
I can’t think of a single mainstream gaming “journalist” who isn’t just writing activist garbage instead of gaming news
@BalbazaktheGreat
@BalbazaktheGreat 27 күн бұрын
It's arrogance: there is no self reflection in this, not one ounce. "Am I so out of touch? No! It's the audience that's wrong!"
@spazco8669
@spazco8669 26 күн бұрын
lol. Journalists reported that it ER receiving negative reviews over difficulty when the vast majority of negative reviews were about performance.
@Keyce0013
@Keyce0013 24 күн бұрын
I mean a game is gonna be pretty hard when you can barely play it to begin with!
@jaydeeao
@jaydeeao 27 күн бұрын
It's the mixing of actual tangible info about the game that contributes to a gamer being able to make an informed purchase, and including personal narratives that don't contribute to an informed purchase. It's like what the government does when putting together a bill they're trying to pass. They include the things that will actually help, but then mix in a laundry list of stuff that doesn't help, but hurts the country for their own personal gain.
@gecho8848
@gecho8848 27 күн бұрын
Games journalists are so unnecessary now. Why listen to someone who is a part of a company with a ton of potential bias and conflict of interest when we can just communicate with actual gamers anywhere else on the internet? We do not need a mouth piece for gaming communities anymore, the community can just speak for itself amongst itself. Even if they could earn trust and do a better job, it's still redundant.
@VanaheimGames
@VanaheimGames 27 күн бұрын
This has "Colin Moriarty Mass Effect 3" energy.
@CerealKiller
@CerealKiller 27 күн бұрын
One of the major issue with most people nowadays, not just game journos (although they seem to be doing this more often than anyone else) is that everyone reprimand others for being part of a Culture War while they themselves do everything in their power to further and thrive in said War.
@SirLurkington
@SirLurkington 27 күн бұрын
I appreciate people like LD here. Saving me from having to sift through the nonsense.
@saintboy93
@saintboy93 27 күн бұрын
They beat the game? Pretty sure most game journalist only play the first 10 hours of the game they review and rarely ever finish the game. Even the most normal gamer finish more games than they do and it doesnt matter how long they take to beat it.
@KaleSerpent
@KaleSerpent 27 күн бұрын
But you can't verify that, they can say whatever they want, its not like you can say definitively that they don't.
@tannersandusky2621
@tannersandusky2621 27 күн бұрын
@@KaleSerpent but it’s easy to infer that they don’t play games much, because they would naturally always be trying to paint themselves in a better light, and they could verify it tho posting their hours on steam or something, and the fact they don’t, when it would obviously help their case is weird to say the least. It’s like, they could have that piece of evidence to help them in the court of public opinion, but by not including some information that could help them, it leads me to believe that it actually isn’t there. That if they posted their hours it would be clear they don’t play a lot of games. So they don’t.
@KaleSerpent
@KaleSerpent 27 күн бұрын
​@@tannersandusky2621 Ah see, that's what I'm getting at. They can make all sorts of claims, and since it's their life that isn't in the public eye, you can say they didn't but they will just say prove that they didn't. You can make conclusions, but it's not exactly definitive fact. It's a guess, even a highly educated and well reasoned guess, but it's not definitive.
@snazzydrew
@snazzydrew 23 күн бұрын
​@@KaleSerpent yeah but when you're split hairs like that, there's no real insight. It's pretty obvious these people aren't always finish games. The tell is that they don't talk about the game. They immediately pivot to RL social issues to fill up the page because they didn't do their job, which was actually play the game and review it. They instead start reviewing Twitter comments.
@betaphase_tv
@betaphase_tv 27 күн бұрын
He starts out saying that most game journalists are better gamers them most gamers. They have access to prerelease games, pre patch games, when they are the most difficult and beat them faster then other your average gamer. etc. etc. Then he says they are just like us. I can't relate to any of that stuff. I'm looking at my bank account trying to decide if a game is worth $40, $60, or $80 of my hard earned money for an entertainment expense. For me, those amounts are not trivial. I don't get comp copies. Also, I don't care about any of the DEI vs. Woke crap. If the game is good, I'll play it. If it isn't I won't.
@Keyce0013
@Keyce0013 24 күн бұрын
That is a great callout and I can't believe I didn't catch that. "We're just like you, BUT BETTER!"
@NoisieBastrdd
@NoisieBastrdd 27 күн бұрын
i come from the future. Congrats on the 100k subscribers, man. ABSOLUTELY DESERVED. Love your content
@ArcaneZippity
@ArcaneZippity 27 күн бұрын
Great video conversation... I agree with most of what you had to say on this subject... I also believe it's multiple factors leading people to stray away from main stream journalist sites and blogs with relation to the gamer space... It's kind of happening across most spaces these days as well... You were very right when it comes to what most gamers are seeking these days when they peruse the web... They are seeking as much information as possible, sometimes various opinions, to get a wider picture on specific topics/games/movies/etc... While journalists use to be the big thing, with magazine articles and game review websites (i.e. IGN, Polygon, GameSpot, etc), the range of opinions were limited mostly to those avenues... But over time, these news outlets and websites began gobbling up all their competitors, and so the number of articles and reviews became fewer and much more commercialized... Some of this was due to the industry influencing the media, and some of it was due to more fast profit focused tactics when it came to journalism... It became harder to find trustworthy articles with lots of useful information from those sources... Add in the boom of online content creators making gameplay videos, reviews, guides, and so on... The quality and amount of available content a gamer can refer to has become wildly diverse and numerous... To the point where you can watch a few reviews by fellow gamers and get a better picture then you can from a journalist's article... I also highly agree that many of these journalists nowadays pay far too much attention to social media websites, as well as comments on their own sites... You would think professional journalists with degrees would already know many of the points you made... But I think we have a newer breed of journalists who don't have the professionalism, training, and/or enough experience to know what to take away from comments and what to ignore... Many times, it feels like these entertainment journalists and bloggers can be their own worst enemies... The industry they work in has become less and less relevant as well, and sometimes desperate times breeds desperate content... When I look at an article like that one, I see a journalist lashing out at his/her readers... And it makes me wonder, is this just a desperate person treading water as they seek help for their industry, or is it just another person desperate putting out controversial talking points just for clicks, to keep the lights on?
@Stoukeer
@Stoukeer 27 күн бұрын
The only people I trust with the video games industry are people in the steam reviews. They know their shit (if you can filter the memes ofc)
@christophbeck1305
@christophbeck1305 27 күн бұрын
The memes can be informativ i bought a game because a review said its a game where you tell anime girls to get in the big fucking robot and start killing. Best 10 € i spent and the review was correct i did yell: i don't care if your brain flows out those ears get in there!
@carbagehealth9634
@carbagehealth9634 27 күн бұрын
same cant be said for discussions now though sadly, those forums are worse than 4chan since they added awards/the clown. Some of it has leaked over to reviews but luckly they are still by and large a good account for games!
@owenfrancis971
@owenfrancis971 27 күн бұрын
@@carbagehealth9634 holy fuck how right you are, those places are filled any type of insult you can think of. they are never ever worth your time
@themaskedhobo
@themaskedhobo 26 күн бұрын
I treat the steam reviews like I do Amazon reviews. I look at the highs and discount idiots who always give 5s look at the lows and discount people using it wrong, everything else has the potential to be informative.
@regex2660
@regex2660 27 күн бұрын
Holly, first time I've clicked on a video with "1 minute ago" upload time
@eventhorizon9598
@eventhorizon9598 27 күн бұрын
That is a good sign. Do not hang out on yt all day :D
@petejohnson7918
@petejohnson7918 25 күн бұрын
We can't find critics or reviewers or journalists who have our like mind because they are canceled, slandered, demonetized, and simply not allowed to exist.
@josepablotorresruvalcaba8232
@josepablotorresruvalcaba8232 27 күн бұрын
"please, trust again on us and videogame journalist" The first words of their article: "we hate videogames and our jobs" What???
@2fingacriminal
@2fingacriminal 27 күн бұрын
try reading a book first before commenting you child
@Acuas
@Acuas 27 күн бұрын
And gamers, most importantly they hate gamers.
@Markpen98
@Markpen98 27 күн бұрын
Game journalists are not woke, journalism is a BUSINESS and the main aim is MONEY. They don't care about "honesty" or "morality", but just clicks and ad revenue. Due to the diminishing reader base, they can only write clickbait titles that are so catchy and ragebait that a random youtuber covers it so that they can became relevant again. They can then meet the monthly quota and show it to their boss that they probably despise.
@lordomacron3719
@lordomacron3719 15 күн бұрын
I tell people this all the time. Journalism is in the business of selling stories not Truth.
@raskol60
@raskol60 27 күн бұрын
How about journalist actually doing their job and reviewing the genres they have experience and a way to compare to other games? If someone has no way to tell if some system is good or bad but it seems decent enough all of a sudden most games are 9 or 10/10 which is a joke coming from ppl who are supposed to be critical
@MihaiDurus
@MihaiDurus 24 күн бұрын
This is why I love Steam. You can see other gamer's reviews before doing any purchase. This has more value than any journalist can ever provide.
@vignirolafsson1775
@vignirolafsson1775 27 күн бұрын
you're not the customer, you're the product! The companies buying ads are the customer, the opinions don't matter outside of getting clicks, nothing matters but the clicks...
@Pwnopolis
@Pwnopolis 27 күн бұрын
The purchase may be permanent, but they still dont want us to have any form of ownership.
@MinorZero
@MinorZero 26 күн бұрын
Not if you buy from Ubisoft, they just take your stuff away when they feel like it.
@rons3634
@rons3634 2 күн бұрын
"So find someone with similar opinions to you." This is actually good advice. That works for movies and tv shows too. As long as it is not taken to the extreme where you purchase a product just because someone you normally agree with says it's good.
@Hammer1987
@Hammer1987 27 күн бұрын
Hey @LegendaryDrops I recall you talking about finding someway to make it easier for listeners to differentiate between when you're talking and when you're reading something. Have you looked into using a voice filter? You could also use a TTS, but a filter would probably be more convenient for reading things during a stream. Might be worth a try.
@iRunKids
@iRunKids 27 күн бұрын
The wages are low? I won’t be satisfied until the wages for games journalists are $0
@bmacaulay18
@bmacaulay18 26 күн бұрын
Low seems far to high for these "journalists".
@Russian_engineer_bmstu
@Russian_engineer_bmstu 27 күн бұрын
Lol, this is so manipulative. "she talked about stereotypes, sexism, sjw stuff, crass stuff and optimization. Look. Now you ALL agree with her" No, we agree with one thing out of 10. Yes, she(?) deserves an apology from some people for that one point about optimization. Nothing more.
@Russian_engineer_bmstu
@Russian_engineer_bmstu 27 күн бұрын
Also, 14:13, so, like a streamer/youtuber. Because when we talk about a publication, there are a lot of people who are hard to destinguish, who all use same platform and for the game you are interested in, the guy you wanna see a review from, won't be on that task. Unlike some streamers you agree with, where you always see their face, and they alone are on that source
@MeltonCrest
@MeltonCrest 27 күн бұрын
No she doesn't.
@Bioguy5
@Bioguy5 17 күн бұрын
He's right. Games Journalists go into a game with the least amount of resources that will ever be available. No guides, no strategies, on a deadline, and before any day-1 balance patches. Then, they are asked to form a public opinion that won't get them fired from their journal, resonate with general audiences, and not get them sued-again, all on a deadline. Without help. And with every future reader with the benefit of retrospect ready to point at the smallest falter. It's a thankless job. Say what you want. Sure, there have been plenty of clown takes. But the way we improve is not by lampooning everyone with an opinion. Or by being quick to give our own. We state the facts, correct misconceptions, and give everyone room to discuss and make their own decisions.
@chaoschalice
@chaoschalice 7 күн бұрын
No he wasn't, no one asked for them to play the games & no one asked for their opinions, they were just mad because they realized how useless their occupation is now. It's like a clockmaker demands people to purchase his clocks because of how hard they were to make, ignoring the fact that no one told him to make them
@Bioguy5
@Bioguy5 7 күн бұрын
@@chaoschalice Well, I wish I could at least compliment you on a clever analogy, but then I'd be lying.
@chaoschalice
@chaoschalice 7 күн бұрын
​@@Bioguy5who wants your compliment? Your acting like your compliment is the highlight of my day or something, get off your highhorse
@KarlRock
@KarlRock 21 күн бұрын
I really like the thorough review videos that KZbinrs make. They tend to be more realistic, HONEST, and in touch with gamers than journalists.
@TheAurgelmir
@TheAurgelmir 13 күн бұрын
Game Journalism stopped being for the gamer once the "Gamers are Dead" articles came out a decade ago. I don't need them. In fact none of the games I put most of my hours into are hardly mentioned by game journalists anyways. And yet, I heard about those games, and I play those games. They need me, more than I need them. And the intro to that article shows how tone deaf the journalists are. The issue isn't that you hate video games, or are bad at them. The issue is that they hate their core audience. And the intro shows it.
@naproupi
@naproupi 20 күн бұрын
At some point I feel like there's a bit of unfairness to some argument Like if a journalist say pronouns aren't a big deal that's pushing their bias But when tons of youtube """"independant""" critics spend half their videos whining about pronouns and not talking about the actual game at all now that's not them pushing their political belief on their audience ? As for "nobody cared when a good game like BG3 had them" Well no, people complained but they quickly shut down because they saw that the game was popular and that they couldn't push their alt right agenda on that one, same for Elden Ring and Hades II who also got a lot of critic from alt right activists before they realised they were not at an advantage and backed away. There is a side of journalist that push leftist agenda sure, but there is also a whole part of the internet clearly using games critics to push an alt right agenda and that side is very often overlooked in those discussions.
@richardduska1558
@richardduska1558 24 күн бұрын
10:21 The Elden Ring DLC wasn't that hard pre-patch. It was just that most people did the usual "bang you'r head against the wall" tactic and did not realized that you need to go and explor + did not used the new tear stone which to be fair should have been given to them at the start because it changes the game in a very drastic way.
@mattgerlach744
@mattgerlach744 24 күн бұрын
It was really eye opening seeing the reviews come out for the Elden Ring DLC. There were youtubers whose entire channel is Elden Ring content who got passed up for early review access, but then random journalists from gaming news publications got access just to give embarrassingly cringe "I obviously jumped into this conversation 30 seconds ago" reviews. It just made it very clear to me that something is off in the gaming journalism world.
@johnpaladin1533
@johnpaladin1533 27 күн бұрын
Remember that journalist who took gameplay footage from a smaller channel cause "nobody will notice"?
@Keyce0013
@Keyce0013 24 күн бұрын
No, do tell
@AuUntaris
@AuUntaris 27 күн бұрын
“Trust me” - Jake “The Snake” Roberts vibes
@Maclintok
@Maclintok 27 күн бұрын
Video game journalism was one of my fantasy jobs as a youngster. I grew up reading Computer Gaming World, PC Games, EGM and Gamepro. These people were THE ONES...they had the access to devs and publishers, they had the expertise and they had a very exclusive platform. Nowadays the magazines are long dead. I may try to pick up an expensive issue of Edge now and then because their production quality is so nice but I'm generally not turning to professional trade journalists for info about video games. The democratization of video games critique and news has been a net positive but I still believe there's a place for pros to operate. It's more along the lines of long-form features and investigative reporting, as these larger media firms will have many more resources to invest into this content vs. your average KZbinr.
@AdonanS
@AdonanS 27 күн бұрын
Video game journalism and reviews are still alive and trusted, just not the mainstream ones.
@dazt6h
@dazt6h 27 күн бұрын
Ah yeah, TheGamer. I've had them blocked in every news feed I have for years. This is just a reminder of the why.
@AxisCorpsRep
@AxisCorpsRep 17 күн бұрын
"games journalists regularly beat entire games in a far shorter timespan" - no they dont "they dont have a single guide to beat" - yes they do, other players and google "or access an area with some abstruse entry method" - they find this out from the players, they dont care about the lore or quests "they beat them before the patches arrive" - the patches mostly nerf op stuff, which make the game easier, not harder early on
@desmien679
@desmien679 26 күн бұрын
As a gamer in the 80s & 90s most information was word of mouth. We need to get back to relying on this from those we know to be actual gamers.
@Keyce0013
@Keyce0013 24 күн бұрын
I find searching for a video game in the KZbin search bar is usually a decent choice. That or specifically looking at streams to get a live performance of the game. Sure, the gameplay is going to be coloured by the person playing it, but at least it's actual visible evidence of what the game plays like that I can watch and make my decision from.
@desmien679
@desmien679 24 күн бұрын
@@Keyce0013 it's not as good as from those who've proven themselves as gamers to you, some may also have some information that you can't find on KZbin but from those that have tried and tested from a perspective that you're more familiar with. In the 80s and 90s it was easier for this. Growing up as a gamer during this time many of us arcades and bowling alleys were our church and a huge part of our life in playing videogames. Next to that was going to houses of kids in the neighborhood including them coming over to ours to play various consoles and computer games. In school we talked about all of these from arcade games to tricks and cheat codes in console/computer games. Mid 90s and prior to Ultima Online I got into MajorMUD on a local BBS. That brought me closer to anyone in any MMO I've played, we'd meet up weekly for various activities such as movies, bowling, BBQ at a patk, ECT. We'd also go camping a few times a year at a lake a few hours away. Also the hardcore PvP in the game mechanics was a lot more than most MMOs today. Eve Online in except when you die everything drops for anyone else to pickup. Furthermore the most powerful items had a limited number in the game many only one and those using then we're heavy targets for PvP just for the fact of getting then from em. I've actually been wanting to see an MMO that not only does have the hardcore PvP nature like Eve Online but also has the incentive for PvP that this text based game has which has a dedicated player base for the past 30+ years.
@desmien679
@desmien679 24 күн бұрын
@@Keyce0013 also you have to remember that back in the early 80s there was a huge problem that occurred m This was a huge saturation of the market with so many very bad third party games flooding it. On top of that a rumor spread to promote those bad games that people bought because of it. Today we have a similar issue and even though the exact details are different we're still heading to a crash just as bad that wiped out 80% of the industry in the US. This time it's going to be globally and games journalists/shills are the ones spreading the rumors of bad games being good. Activision and Atari barely survived the crash in 83, Activision most likely won't survive this one and the old guard at Atari are laughing at em for it.
@Keyce0013
@Keyce0013 24 күн бұрын
@@desmien679 Yeah we're seeing a lot of companies going under even now, whether it's in reputation or finances. I think Microsoft is becoming known for shutting down games studios they buy, and then there was (all of that) stuff with Acti/Blizzard....
@Spectrum0122
@Spectrum0122 27 күн бұрын
I haven't trusted game journalists since the one dude was fired from gamespot for his accurate and honest kane and lynch review
@CmoIsDaNam3i
@CmoIsDaNam3i 27 күн бұрын
I've met a Halo modder who legitimately has said he isn't a gamer and doesn't respect what Halo fans want or think they need. I fully believe this games journalists can easily fit the description of hating the medium. If I can find it with a Halo modder, you can find it with a games journalist.
@dedut.
@dedut. 27 күн бұрын
you got me subscribed, keep up the good work! Cheers
@lordofchaosinc.261
@lordofchaosinc.261 24 күн бұрын
Not a problem for me. I don't read such articles at all. Also nothing starting with "we need to talk about" and "you were wrong about". There are browser plugins that block entire domains. It's glorious.
@TNTspaz
@TNTspaz 21 күн бұрын
The guy has way more faith in games journalists than most. Ive read so many articles where it's super obvious they didnt actually finish the game and are just pretending to.
@KratosisGod
@KratosisGod 27 күн бұрын
I don't even trust myself fully 😂
@krayne2084
@krayne2084 26 күн бұрын
I also think one of the problems is that journalists do not understand that the reality of positive sentiment is often silence. Like engineering things, the only feedback you get are the negative ones (with the exception of discoveries and exceptional successes). If a bridge doesn't break, do you praise it? If a chair doesn't give you back pain, do you tip the designer? With no recent experience on journalism websites, I feel confident thinking that there's no "like button" on an article. That is usually the farthest that someone will go to provide positive feedback. Without that, you will only see negative feedback.
@mobbs6426
@mobbs6426 26 күн бұрын
"Find an opinion I trust and take it into consideration"? My guy. We already are. That's why we're on KZbin instead
@WlmaAlexender-zl6nx
@WlmaAlexender-zl6nx 10 күн бұрын
The absolute fastest way you can get me to not trust you is for you to proactively insist that I can definitely trust you.
@mightquinnable
@mightquinnable 27 күн бұрын
You’re hitting the nail on the head, even in this article they state the review for cyberpunk; mentioning only one thing the players and journalists agreed on, with the performance of the game. Those other things make people believe they don’t understand or why people like and play games
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606 26 күн бұрын
I'll trust a game review when it's a review of the whole game, not just the tutorial.
@kevin1153
@kevin1153 2 күн бұрын
‘Even a broken squirrel still nuts twice a day’ or something like that.
@crowofrevelry
@crowofrevelry 26 күн бұрын
1:28 Let's never forget that someone actually wrote this, attempting to be sarcastic, while accidentally meaning every word. Because if there is one thing that Kotaku-kin have made abundantly, unerringly clear, it's that they hate video games-specifically because people who like video games don't attend the same mixers or subscribe to the same mindset as them.
@Zeromatisch
@Zeromatisch 26 күн бұрын
That article starts with like every reason why you shouldn't trust journalists, like huhh?😅😂
@DarthRane113
@DarthRane113 26 күн бұрын
Insert "how about NOOOOO" meme here
@klifton1907
@klifton1907 9 күн бұрын
There is no journalism in video game journalism
@zapspeed
@zapspeed 9 күн бұрын
I think part of the problem is that putting controversial statements in articles (and KZbin videos!) is the BEST way to get people to leave comments for "engagement". It tricks people into creating content for your site for SEO, gets more ad impressions, and/or feeds the algorithm, and keeps people on the page (and possibly coming back to see what replies they've gotten!). It might not even be because these writers consciously know this and are doing it on purpose (though some probably are), it could just be a survival of the fittest scenario where the ones who happen to do this a lot do better in the industry because their articles/videos get more views or comments, and so have just become the majority of the population of "journalists" who are left still. It could also just be that the people who write like that are the kind of people who love the attention, so they're drawn to that kind of job; in the same way that positions of power tend to attract the kind of people who revel in having power over people and tend to end up abusing it.
@emergency_broadcast_system
@emergency_broadcast_system 22 күн бұрын
I think that first paragraph or so was supposed to be sarcasm but it's hard to tell because so many journalist unironically hold that position
@laillahilaallah001
@laillahilaallah001 27 күн бұрын
The game journalist cried out in pain as they strike you
@Max_Ohm
@Max_Ohm 27 күн бұрын
0:45 *looks at 400 game library* No, I don't think I will
@archivesincomplete
@archivesincomplete 25 күн бұрын
Lmfao I saw the "Journalist Mode" mod a few weeks back. Glad the journos saw it.
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