Changing the Neckline on a Finished Knit Dress

[@PowerToolsWithThread]

You know what you just taught me??? I just learned to make the neckline center with the 1/2" straight center or I get a V neck!!! That has driven me CRAZY!! I actually gave away my Curve Runner on a Christmas Sewing Swap several years ago when I gave up garment sewing. Do you think I got a Thank you? NO. (sigh) Millenials. Anyhoo, I have never in my life seen the calculator used like that to determine distance. Wow. Thank you Joy! You are a gem!

[@palominoz59]

Beautiful job on the new neckline of the dress. It is more flattering to you. Even though many of us have been sewing for decades, it's always nice to see someone taking the time to show others the correct way to do changes. Bless you, you're doing a wonderful job!!!

[@pamelasmith6306]

That is definitely your neckline it suits you perfectly..I Have been sewing for 60 years and I have to tell you that you are an excellent teacher....well done..I hope that all new sewists find your channel.

[@Bunnymommyx4]

You give me so many giggles with your stories and your wonderful personality. 😂 Thank you for being such a bright spot in the world and such a delightful teacher. Hugs!

[@elainelott9916]

I so love watching your videos. No matter what you are showing or talking about I enjoy what you are doing. You are such an upbeat person and make me laugh every time. You are a great teacher as well. Thank you for taking the time out of your days to make your wonderful utubes.

[@sherrycallaway]

I didn’t think the original neckline looked bad but once you made the adjustments it looks so good. I do like it better, it is much more flattering

[@lindahodges2236]

Love all your tutorials. Have been watching all afternoon so enthralled. Thanks Joy, you have taught me a lot.

[@kathleenturowski1631]

The neckline did look better second time around. You have such an elevated level of understanding Joy and everything you touch turns to gold!! Your sewing room is second to none I feel like I’m in there with you. First thing I do each morning is check for a new video from you, vivmom and jens sewing room. Thank you Joy for sharing your world❤️🌠

[@smallfootprint2961]

It's perfect. I really thought the neck was going to big, but you worked miracles on it. I love the dress. Seems like it fits really well, and I love the length. If I could wear the short sleeves, I'd wear that to a wedding I have to go to soon. You're teaching me a lot about making adjustments. I'm really grateful for your videos.

[@PJ-si5vr]

You did such a nice alteration on your neckline. Opening it up like you did makes it less matronly, makes your neck look longer and seems in better proportion with the long length. Great job!

[@janissharkey7174]

I’m so glad you showed how you added the neckband on stretch fabric. I can definitely use that in my next project. Thanks.

[@judylemoine4350]

You are so funny Joy! I love watching your videos because you brighten my day. You are so informative and professional, and I’ve learned so much from you.

[@hjkennaugh]

Dress looks great. New neckline is very flattering. I really enjoyed your video. Thank you.

[@mrgarner4796]

Joy, it has been a year since my husband passed away. It has also been the most difficult year of my life. My Doctor's office had a program they felt I should sign up for so I did. The program was called... Finding 'Joy' in your life. Well, let me tell you there was nothing said about you and there wasn't much 'joy' in the program. I just want you to know I have found more 'Joy' in my life since I started watching your videos. I guess you could say you are the 'Joy' in my life. Thank you. I love the dress and I have to tell you I learn something new every time I watch you sew.

[@Joy4650B]

Nancy, I am so sorry that your husband passed away. I lay in bed at night and wonder what on Earth I would do if I lost Jerry. This is my email if you would like to "talk". [e-mail]. You may already have that. It is the highest compliment that someone would tell me that I help them in any way. God bless you.

[@jenksclan]

Joy I love the unfinished set you made. It's a happy outfit! I also love your stories.

[@lindagraff2484]

Dress turned out great. That outfit top and matching pants is beautiful.

[@thestickerfarm1254]

Excellent tutorial. A real life lesson which can be applied even to ready made clothing that has a bad neckline. “MORE PLEASE”. Thank you

[@lindarfleete4443]

Excellent tutorial. Thanks for sharing. Happy sewing everyone.

[@anneinstx1969]

Love that big floral fabri c on you. I kept looking at the fabric but was afraid about how big the flower was. It looks great!

[@flyingeaglewoman8682]

Today “safe spaces” are made for kids, we coddle and the results speak for themselves.. thank you for sharing how you did this process! Was very helpful. After you finished the neckline I could then see what you meant, the neckline does look better. Looks so very comfy!

[@shirleylee4666]

I've been watching you for a few years now and we have a lot in common. When you told the fashion show story, I cracked up. I went to secretarial school and we had to do a fashion show also. I was scared to death and I'm sure I didn't smile. You make my days, I look forward to hearing your stories and you have inspired me to sew more. I also appreciate you being true to your faith and enjoy your sweet spirit. Just keep being yourself.

[@susandt3856]

You are an amazing teacher! So patient, clear and detailed. I always learn something from you. Thank you so much for sharing.

[@pennyhanson2598]

Hi, Joy, thanks for showing us how easy it is to alter a neckline and also the sizing for the band. I copied a top of mine and it’s sitting waiting for a neckband, so I can get on with it now! Kind regards from Penny in Liverpool 🇬🇧😊💕

[@lauragreer5240]

Lol....no cleavage on the front but plenty on the back!!! You make sewing so enjoyable! Thank you for being you! I am slowly going crazy with having to stay home and I really, really needed that laugh. Thanks for making my day. I love watching you and even though my mom was a tailor, I still learn new sewing techniques from you.

[@sewbizzylizzy]

Hi Joy. Your dress turned out lovely. I like those to sleep in and clean the house in. They are just so comfortable. You make things so simple to understand. Can you consider doing a video on how to start a KZbin channel and some successful tips you’ve learned? I would really appreciate it.

[@shellyreddy598]

Thank you for another fantastic tutorial Joy! You really do bring sunshine into my life every time I watch your videos. Your love for Jesus Christ is just beautiful, and I thank Him every day for His love, and sending you into my life through your videos. I am severely disabled and housebound, but watching you, brings pure sunshine and happiness into my life. You are so inviting, and warm and you welcome us all. Thank you so very, very much for that. Sending you my heartfelt prayers, the biggest of hugs, love and a lifetime friendship from me in Birmingham, England 💕💖

[@Joy4650B]

I am THRILLED to have your friendship Shelly. I've been watching Micheline drive around up there in England. It is so interesting and scary watching she and her husband drive on the WRONG side of the road!!! LOL (She is from "Michoumakes" on KZbin if you don't know her.)

[@shellyreddy598]

Thank you for your kind words Joy. Lol at the driving on the wrong side of the road, I will have a watch of Micheline now. Big hugs xx

[@heatherthrone9999]

What a beautiful print on the pants outfit & on you

[@katieemmart6566]

One day you should give us a tour of your closet! You make so many things I can only dream what your closet looks like! Thanks for the tutorial today,

[@Joy4650B]

I actually did show all of my Surefit Design makes in a video a few years back. It was most of my closet, lol.

[@alicedolan5636]

I like that dress, It looks so nice on you. You have a great day and hurry back!

[@susansalas5388]

Hey joy, I may be one of many that ask you to do a video on changing the neckline of a finished a garment and I can't believe that you are actually doing the video and so quickly after I had asked you too. You are so kind and special it and such a joy to watch. I look forward to each video and can relate to you on many issues that you talk about. Thank you again and keep up the marvelous videos

[@flyingeaglewoman8682]

I love my clapper, great tool to help set seams. Especially with steam.

[@conniehammer7158]

I love watching your videos you made me laugh....and you are a great teacher, smart and your name really match to you

[@suem6004]

Thanks for showing how to adjust the neck. Really learned a lot. You are a treasure

[@Chericherry4]

❤🍒 My oldest daughter had a math teacher in 8th grade who was really a difficult teacher for the first week. Many kids were able to transfer out in the first few days. After a week, the teacher became quite reasonable and likeable. It turns out she wanted students who wanted to learn, so she figured whoever was left after that first week were the exceptional ones. My daughter thanked me later for not letting her transfer because she learned to LOVE that teacher and math.

[@daraharper2003]

Thank you Joy. I always learn something in your videos. Have a Great day!

[@bettygadd7652]

Looks great to me! The older I get the more I want covered.

[@TodayinJensSewingRoom]

I should probably get that french curve. I have one but I think it's for quilting? It's about half that size and twice as wide. You probably have one just like it 😜 Thanks for the "lower the neckline" lesson. That dress looks unbelievably comfy. I am always amazed at the way you can make some adjustment on the fly and it always turns out beautifully. It is a glorious day here where I live and I have been inside working on doing fit adjustments to a pattern all day. All. The. Live. Long. Day. I swear I am going to lose my religion with this dress. I got the wrong size and missed the sale on Simplicity patterns at Joann's, so I had to size it up my own danged self. Then do an FBA. Then increase the waist. Then do a sway-back adjustment. OMGosh this better be worth it. I'm taking a lunch break on my "lanai" - I have no idea why they call them that here, it's just a screened porch, no need to get all fancy. It's 87 and sunny and the humidity is only 35%! I even thought about bringing my Pfaff out here and doing some sewing. I don't think I will, though. Honestly I want to get that bodice cut out just to see if all these changes work. I've already made 2 test bodices and neither of them fit. Ugh! First world problems!

[@Joy4650B]

You are as determined as I am Jen. I'll keep trying until it just is not possible to continue. Then the fabric goes to the Teddy Bear Lady. I was quilting today and made the loooooooooooooooooooongest video. I cut out about 20 minutes of it and I'm uploading it now. I'll try to piece the rest of it together into another video tomorrow. It was me quilting those house placemats.

[@sueoneal1024]

Love your tips! I put chicken in the crock pot this morning turned it on. Did some other stuff and noticed the crock pot wasn't heating up. Well, turns out you have to plug it in! Love the dress. Got the same fabric to make the laundry day tee. Joy you are so much fun. Really enjoy your videos!

[@Joy4650B]

LOL! Got a great laugh out of your crock pot. Crazy what we do sometimes.

[@suek7086]

Gosh, I have done that too many times for it to be an accident.

[@marialaurence7636]

Dual feed. With all the D feet, you can engage the dual feed. An excellent feature.

[@riahenley3456]

Hi joy, lovely dress.... thanks for showing how you did the neck band ....!! 🌞

[@Joy4650B]

You’re welcome 😊

[@juliefryhover6525]

Wow! You make good scence of how to change the neckline. Some pattern make it feel like it will choke me. Thank you.

[@indigobleu]

Thanks for the great lesson from a great teacher plus your stories are always fun!

[@letaterrell8138]

Because of the fabric I would wear this as a nightgown . Really enjoyed watching you today .

[@vicckk56]

You are awsome Joy! Thank you.💕💕

[@audreyseccondro8519]

Thank you for all your tips on needed items to have when making clothing! I’m gonna have to make a list! You’re a Joy to watch Joy and I loved your story about your teacher and your Mom was brilliant to keep you in that class of Ms. Bennett’s! Love to you and Jerry!

[@SewTexas]

Joy, it really does look very nice, I like the higher neckline. This will be an easy fix for you. I use that rule lots when draping my patterns, the dress also looks very comfortable.

[@robincook4349]

plus they have that fusible stay tape on amazon so you might as well link that also

[@wendyj745]

Thank you so much, the dress looks fabulous after the alteration. You have given me hope. Thanks again.

[@lawanabarker3207]

Love your new dress! You are right, the lower neckline is better for you! I also ordered the Fit Nice books yesterday! Looking forward to getting back to sewing for me. Thank you.

[@bevcote2357]

When I was 15 (I’m 59) I went to Montana to live with my father, grandmother, and step mother I was a sophomore in high school my dad demanded I take typing and short hand because “young lady if you ever find yourself without a husband you will always be able to support yourself if you can type and take shorthand!” Long story short I went into the Navy and typed everyday for 23 years. Blessings.

[@kellykranz7652]

I love the 👗. I also love the outfit you were wearing. Thank you for sharing how to do the neckline. I'm starting my maxie 👗 today. I love your tutorials. Have a great day🌼🌼🌼

[@shirleyscott6997]

That dress is so nice on you. The tutorial is great and very informative. The neckline is perfect on you now. I would love a Bernini sewing machine. I keep checking to see if there are any offers but there’s none to be had. I’m sure one day I’ll get one . Stay well and stay safe. X

[@Joy4650B]

Check for used Berninas on EBAY. You can call B Sew Inn in Oklahoma City. They have some trade ins that they service and sell for great prices. They will ship.

[@shirleyscott6997]

@@Joy4650B Thank you Joy. I'll look on Ebay. I live in the UK so calling Oklahoma would be pricey. But Ebay sounds promising. X

[@maryellenscholand1001]

I thought the dress was nice until you modeled the revised addition. I love it. I’m finding my pattern. Thx.

[@lindielee8944]

Thank you so much for your demonstration. I feel more confident to work with streach necklines.

[@cynthiavirissimo457]

That new neckline suits you Joy! I’m performing the same surgery on a woven shift dress, I hope my results are as good as yours. The teacher story was lovely, glad your mom didn’t cave like the other moms.

[@deborahnunn2882]

Love you! What a great tutorial!

[@louisedavidson848]

Gosh ur so talented!!!! And brave!!!

[@cynthiafleming44]

Love the dress. Love the story.

[@ohhhmy8934]

Hi Joy, really like your dress and the updated neckline is perfect. Thanks for the tip about Judy Kessinger's books. Gotta go shopping!

[@di-annjones8874]

You're right, this line is more appealing on you. It probably would be more appealing on me as well but I haven't got the courage to wear my neckline that low. Not that yours is too low, I make mine like a t-shirt which is not very appealing. Thanks for the demonstration I am going to try it. As always I have enjoyed this video. Please never stop making them.

[@jeanlewis4891]

Di-Ann Jones s

[@coreyfisher3167]

Thank you so much for sharing the neckline alteration. Sometimes I have so much trouble with fitting patterns that I just trace well fitting ones, but I never knew how long to cut the neckband to fit well.

[@julieoleary9328]

I ordered both of those books yesterday for 99 dollars. Thanks for the tip. I have a Baby Lock Solaris and I traded in my baby lock Ellisamo and my Destiny for the Solaris. Love the Solaris for embroidery. Then I went to the sewing store and bought the Bernina 570Q because it had the Dual Feed foot. Plus the stitch regulator , which I haven't tried yet. The only thing I don't care for with the Bernina is it doesn't have a manual pressure foot to go along with the automatic one. Can you do a video on how to make the neck line smaller after you made your top. If I bend over you can see my belly button. BTW you made me laugh so hard again today. Joy, I swear you do make my day. You are so up all the time. You have a very happy spirit.

[@susansalas5388]

I also got the 2 books ordered today and mentioned your name as to how I heard about them. Thanks for the tip

[@brigittelogue6678]

I have a fractional calculator on my phone. I use it all the time for sewing and cooking.

[@sewndebisdream6953]

Love you in that dress girl!!!🤗❤️😁

[@lindaodle3952]

I think you look cute in this dress! 💚❤️♥️

[@tknow9298]

When you drew the revised neckline, I thought it would be too wide and too low. I was wrong. The dress looks so much better with the revision.

[@lindabrown7374]

The altered neckline suits you much better, as would me.

[@nancyjones1060]

I like the neckline it is flattering .I would leave it

[@dinahthornton7594]

Hi Joy, just a hint. I notice that occasionally hesitate when giving the content of your fabric when using from your stash. I, like you purchase on line, and had the same problem. I now save the content sticker(really like the ones from Fabric Mart) and after washing the fabric and putting it on fabric boards attach the sticker to the fabric before storing it on my shelf. This has helped me know what I'm sewing with immediately when choosing fabric for a garment. Hope you like this hint. Really enjoy your channel.

[@Joy4650B]

Thank you Dinah. I actually do have all of the stickers still. They are in a file. I can look them up if I really need to know. I know that EVERYTHING I buy is washable and dryable, and that is the most important to me.

[@julieannemooreedwards9909]

Thank you! 🤩

[@susanrussell8195]

So figuring out that width for the new neckline. Instead of adding 1/2 and 3/8 and then doubling it. Double them before adding together. 1/2 + 1/2= 1 and 3/8 + 3/8 = 6/8 which is 3/4. The band should have been 1 3/4 inches wide. Guess what my day job is? Yep, a math teacher. This is a perfect answer to when my kids ask when am I ever going to use this.

[@Joy4650B]

Absolutely. I figured it was 1 3/4 inches right after my comment. I used 2" anyway. A little extra doesn't hurt in that case. Thank you for the simple way to figure it!!! I will certainly do it from now on.

[@susanrussell8195]

Joy Bernhardt, you had already done much more difficult calculations earlier, so I was talking to you through the computer. “Joy, what are you doing? You know how to do that.” I’m sure you could here me. LOL

[@Joy4650B]

@@susanrussell8195 I COULD hear you! Didn't want to redo it though. (-;

[@susansalas5388]

Joy, you are a jewel. I so appreciate that at the end of your video you decided to show us how are you put the neck band in on. I will be referring back to this video, As I have the curved ruler on order from Nancy's notions . I have learned so much watching you. I am also a quilter and have just now begun trying garment sewing and have never known how to tailor a garment to fit right. I wanted to send the picture of the dress I made that I'm want to change the neckline in But can't figure out how to do it in this post. God-bless you

[@Joy4650B]

Send me a picture at [e-mail].

[@cuthbertdrakes6278]

Nice neckline fit

[@Mellie726]

Great adjustment Joy, I just bought a Bernina 475 QE they are having a 20% off sale till 4/30. Although I don't have time to quilt I bought it mainly b/c I'm sick of the cheaper machines I have going on, the mechanical Janome, a Singer 740? I got from HSN, and a very limited Brother. I do have a Juki 1181N , a walking foot industrial for purse makingwhich is my favoriate , but my Husqvarna Lily keeps needing frequent servicing, (after 20 years) I thought this Bernina may last awhile (Imainly got this model b/c it has a 1/4'" foot), etc. Have been doing some sewing for my 3 and 5 year old granddaughters, and just finished a pattern for a jean jacket for myself (from the Islander sewing patterns) from Blueprint along with video. Was pleased with fit except for shoulders, don't know why I didn't adjust. Was fun to use jean jacket buttons on it, though. Can't wait for the Bernina. Do have a Bernina embroidery, but haven't used that in a while, Well thought I would share. I know you have some beautiful machines. It is so enjoyable to sew, takes away the blues, people you miss, the whole virus issue. Keep those videos coming!.

[@Joy4650B]

There are things I don't like about my Berninas, but I like them better than the other brands I have used. They are quality and the dealers are usually very helpful. Wish we had one closer than 150 miles though. I took Islander classes way back when Margaret was alive. She was very nice and a great teacher. I've also taken the Islander classes on Bluprint.

[@Mellie726]

@@Joy4650B thanks for your response Joy ! sorry to hear about the instructor. Take care!

[@muffintop6874]

Can you show us how to do a full bust adjustment on a surplice (wrap top)? Is the process still the same for woven and knits?

[@Joy4650B]

That is more difficult. You will have to do it on each front section unless the pattern uses the same pattern piece for both fronts.

[@phylliscampbell2325]

Great explanation of a banded neckline! How did you decide on 7/8 of the total neckline?

[@jackiejohnson3779]

Ok Joy, which would you recommend for a vintage sewist, Sure Fit or Fit nice as a system for a quilter turned clothing maker. Nothing in the stores are appealing to me and this stay at home has inspired me to try clothes again!

[@Joy4650B]

Definitely, Surefit Designs.

[@dimples7334]

I wish you could come and help me ! You can make anything 😩. Kentucky isn’t that far from you. 😂😂

[@lindajohnson2465]

Joy, If you could only have one Quilters Select Ruler, which size would you buy.

[@Joy4650B]

6 x 24

[@lindajohnson2465]

Thank you!

[@Benniesden]

Hi Joy I love the fabric you used for the long dress. would you happen to have the number for it. I want to order a couple of yards. The new beck line is a lot better. Looks Great. Barbara

[@Joy4650B]

The fabric is from Fabric Mart Fabric. They may still have it. Just search Knits.

[@ellenpowell4155]

Since that neckline is still pretty stretchy, could you sew the topstitch the same way you gather a sleeve cap? That might gather it just enough to keep the neckline more stable.

[@Joy4650B]

I find that gluing down a knit neckline works best for me.

[@anngillett3022]

How do you add the bust dart on the fit nice pattern?

[@heideray7343]

Could you please link to the med-grade tracing paper please? Also do I put your name somewhere in Prime where I go look, or only the items you list on this screen?? Good gosh just call me a dummy! I have to read the tutorial every time I want to print my ABBY pattern so I back to your video! Love the dress! The alteration is perfect and looks so cute on you 🥰

[@Joy4650B]

Let me find the link -- hold on -- lol. No, you just click on the link and it knows it was from my affiliate account. amzn.to/3aLhQiG

[@noreenskousen1905]

Thanks Joy for your step by step. I have a question about the 7/8's for calculating a binding for the neck. I got the standing upright neck binding instructions, but the 7/8's has got me stymied!!! Can you explain to my mathematically challenged mind please?

[@Joy4650B]

I wish I would have explained that. It is just what I learned from other teachers. You MUST have the band SMALLER than the neckline or the neckline will sag and bag away from your neck.

[@noreenskousen1905]

@@Joy4650B Yes, I know that makes so much sense. I've done bindings with woven fabric and it's not as good as with stretch fabric, but how do you calculate the length needed for the binding for stretch fabrics? You took the measurement of the neck, then you multiplied by 7? Why? And then you divided by 8. What does the 7 stand for and what does the 8 stand for? It's probably something simple and I will laugh at myself afterwards for not figuring it out. I thought dividing the 4 points was great....I have been doing it by shoulder seam instead of 4 equal points with stretch fabric. I will change doing it the 'old' way and make sure I do it your way. It makes it lie so nicely against the neck and shoulder the way you do it.

[@magsohara7908]

Thanks joy great I don’t have a clapper but I do have my mum’s old wooden rolling pin which i use as a substitute .... and it works well would you believe 🌈🌈🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@Joy4650B]

I bet a rolling pin would work great! Super substitute.

[@robincook4349]

love your tutorials they are so helpfull but I'm not sure why you used 7/8 on on that calculation ? The dress is very cute. Had some good laughs to day with the video.

[@Joy4650B]

You have to reduce the band. It cannot be as long as the neckline is or it will sag and bag.

[@robincook4349]

@@Joy4650B I understand the length of 29.5 inches but then you multiplied by 7 and divided by 8 I don't understand what the 7/8 is

[@Joy4650B]

@@robincook4349 You take 7/8 of the FULL neckline length, and that gives you the length of the band you are applying to it. The band has to be shorter than the neckline. 7/8 is the magic number.

[@robincook4349]

@@Joy4650B ok thanks

[@susieswisher9878]

Great tutorial. Is your quilter's select ruler 6" X 24" ?

[@Joy4650B]

Yes, it is!

[@sharoncollins8197]

What kind of fabric is the pants outfit you have on and where did you get it? Love that big flower and how it works on the pants. Also the lower neckline is way more flattering on you.

[@Joy4650B]

Thank you Sharon for the compliments! I made the outfit with the big flowers. That is why it is not hemmed or finished at the neck and armholes yet. I used a wide leg pant pattern and Peggy Sager's tank top pattern to make it. I bought the fabric long ago. I'm sure it is all gone. It was probably from Fabric Mart Fabrics as that is where most of my fabric has come from for the last two years.

[@julieoleary9328]

I forgot to say that the dress looked much better when you changed the neckline. It is more youthful looking on you.

[@sew_april]

Your French curve that's hiding.. Isn't it the yellow one on the wall behind you? Lol love your video's!!😘❤

[@Joy4650B]

No, the yellow one is a THIRD one that I bought from Palmer and Pletsch. It is a short one for mainly armholes.

[@sew_april]

@@Joy4650B I'm new to this stuff. I bought a kit on amazon with several, I thought it was in case I lost one hahaha

[@karenschreckengast9468]

you an take the neckline x .85 equals 25.075 that is 85 percent stretch that is the way I do it.

[@louisemaher2688]

Great teach. Can you please tell me..did you have to special order your table pads? I'm having trouble finding a bigger pad for my cutting tables. Thank you.

[@louisemaher2688]

@@dcwatashi yes

[@louisemaher2688]

@@dcwatashi I do and I will check it out. Thank You very much.

[@ellencone3178]

I'm still laughing about your cleavage comment. The dress is very nice and looks comfortable.

[@nancyjones1060]

PS I don't like the lower neckline for me

[@suek7086]

I just had 2 necklines grow and grow with a jersey knit. That was before I could even get it stay stitched. If I can save the garments the next time I am going to use fusible staytape as soon as each piece is cut out. I am cursing myself for buying so much of this crap.

[@Joy4650B]

By "crap", you mean the jersey knit? It really is great to wear once you learn how to tame it. Try cotton knits. They are much nicer to get along with. They do not stretch as much though.

[@bobbicollier4525]

Woman you are insane and I know that because I am just like you....I have been told that i am insane a lot.....ha ha You would be a great friend...we could get into so much trouble.