The Difference Between Younger Cubers & Older Cubers

[@Leaf30003]

‎”I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.” Bruce Lee

[@jus1t-gg]

Yes

[@glowingspacecow8980]

So does that mean younger cubers are better??

[@YRG_Joshh]

@@glowingspacecow8980 yes

[@AntiSpiral666]

What if I practice 10,000 kicks 10,000 times?

[@Leaf30003]

@@AntiSpiral666 then u would forget 9999 of them

[@tentativesuggestion]

I started cubing at the age of 40 and I can totally relate to your point of the brain being overwhelmed.

[@taetae7996]

Good, 39 here Now i dont feel so old😂

[@tentativesuggestion]

@@taetae7996 I can make you feel even younger. I've been cubing for more than a decade now. Enjoy cubing :)

[@ronarmstrong835]

I just learned a month ago. And I'm 50.

[@williamhancock2349]

I started cubing in 1980 when i was given a cube for Christmas. I was a senior in High School at the time. It took me 6 weeks to solve the cube. I found a competition in 1981 at a mall near me. I was averaging 60 seconds at the time. I totally choked (LOL) and had solves of 72 & 73 seconds. A year later I was averaging 23+ seconds per solve. Since there were no more competitions at that time, I couldn't find out how I would do under pressure. I kept a cube nearby for the next 30 years, always doing slow solves. About 3 years ago, I found out that cubing was popular again. I learned CFOP and I'm trying to get back to the 23 second average. I'm now about 36 seconds with my GAN 356i. I'm progressing much slower at my age (56), than I did when I was younger. I estimate, with my old system i was around 4 tps, today I'm doling well if I get 2 tps. I'm in a competition on December 1st. I hope to get my personal best official solve and my best official A05.

[@taetae7996]

@@williamhancock2349 I'm on cube station also. Tae Tae hmu we can battle.

[@wijo605]

Me: today: I'm gonna learn a new cmll tomorrow. tomorrow: I'm gonna learn a new cmll tomorrow...

[@4ccuber945]

Same

[@4ccuber945]

Juts learned 40 don't feel like 2 more

[@rwood1995]

Yesterday you said tomorrow!!

[@davidgeier6365]

That's me with the last two g perms.

[@robosapien314]

David Geier same, but I only have to learn one gperm sice two months😂😂😂

[@thepointblank213]

I started cubing at 37, cause my 8 year old son got into it. His hand speed is so much faster than mine, and he picks things up so fast in comparison to me. I have faster PB's in 2x2, 3x3, and 4x4, but he has better averages. These PB's aren't going to hold up long... lol

[@hao_cuii]

Hmmm you said ‘lol’

[@Lussimio]

@@hao_cuii yea but he joined 12 yrs ago

[@Lussimio]

@@hao_cuii sorry if I missed the joke

[@hao_cuii]

It’s ok I’m just stupid

[@bruce4139]

Still beating him in the PB train?

[@markustopple5723]

Jperm is giving philosophy lessons now xD

[@toki4686]

He is getting deep...

[@nicolassarazin2311]

After all he's a teacher, you can know that from the patreon suggestion video.

[@markustopple5723]

I thought he's "just" doing private tutoring?

[@Winteg8]

This is not philosophy

[@danish3713]

Younger Cubers be like I am gonna practice 1 thing 100 times Older Cubers be like I am gonna practice 100 things 1 time

[@huddybuddygreatness9309]

Pros be like I am gonna practice 1000 things 1000 times

[@amiruliman5]

@@huddybuddygreatness9309 you mean 1000 things 1000 times each

[@thenameidontdesire9564]

@@amiruliman5 now that's too much, even for pro

[@sleepingboiz8155]

Not really if they spend 16hrs per day on cubing lol

[@Flareto-p5s]

I am a younger cuber so ya that’s why my turn speed is so quick

[@laurikorhonencubes]

The difference between young and old cubers: Age Edit: 500 likes in 1 day? Thanks

[@eerokaartokangas]

Nah it's the size

[@paulhayes7972]

Frikin boomer

[@topseli8797]

No täällähän on suomalaisia :D

[@laurikorhonencubes]

@@topseli8797 No niin ilmeisesti on :D

[@eerokaartokangas]

@@topseli8797 jooo

[@The_NSeven]

I'm actually kinda impressed by that guy at the end

[@PHCuber]

Nikolaj why

[@The_NSeven]

@@PHCuber ?? He was using some rather advanced stuff for his speed, not many people at his speed would know that. Dylan even talked about it

[@tennischesslover]

Nikolaj yeah I agree. I average 20 now and only recently I have learned 1 look pll as well as efficient f2l. He already knew all of that at his speed

[@kayak8700]

i average like 12 lol and there are some thing he does that i didn't know u could do, but some stuff he does was kinda dumb too. I also didn't learn full oll till averaging 12.5

[@skinach]

Yeah I just don't understand how he can average sub-30 when he has the turning speed of a turtle. He turns super slowly, and yet it seems like he's getting so much more done with each turn.

[@lv.99mastermind45]

As a 25 year old, my absolute favorite thing is that no matter what your approach is, the skill ceiling is so high. You're never finished getting better.

[@ME0WMERE]

Yes; no matter who you are, there is someone better

[@Biryani2op]

No matter how good you are,there is always someone asian that's better

[@neicu34]

@@Biryani2op unless you're shmymone shmolasinski or something like that

[@fremder99]

I’m a REALLY old “cuber” and am just using it to keep my mind and memory sharp. I appreciate you making this vid! After a bit of rummaging, I decided to focus on learning OLL as a good memory exercise. I’m a few months in and have only learned about half of it and with my arthritic meathook hands, am only getting to around 1:30 (1:00 if I’m lucky) precisely because my turning speed is progressing only slowly and my recognition is horrible and not really going anywhere. I’ll begin incorporating the latter especially more. One trick I’ve used to wade through learning OLL is to realize that every OLL alg preserves F2L, so if I come to an OLL I haven’t yet learned, I just apply any OLL I do know (tho typically F-sexy-F’, or same with f) until I find a pattern I do know. It at least keeps me “moving”. I also still rely on two-look PLL because I only need to know U, A, E, H and Z perms for now to finish the solve. The rest of PLL looks horrifying. I actually have low expectations for ultimately getting very fast, but I enjoy stuffing algs into my brain and watching your channel.

[@ehillis7646]

i learn oll algs the same way but i think full pll is much more important than full oll since plls are much longer. a way to learn it that is not as scary is to realize that lots of plls are just 2 diferrent oll algs put together. For Exapmple: T perm: {R U R' U' R' F R F'}{F R U' R' U' R U R' F} the 2 sections are both oll algs to solve the fish case but put together change the permutation of the last layer

[@JivanPal]

Of course, you've mentioned your arthritis, but for what it's worth, you can easily get sub-60 times with 2-look Fridrich. My personal best is 19 seconds, average back then (like 8 years ago) was 40 seconds, and that's with basic F2L, 2-look OLL, and almost full PLL (mainly lacking knowledge of G-perms and some of the more obscure ones, like F, E, N, V). Currently, I've forgotten most PLLs, it's basically T, J, U, A, Y, so I do 2-look PLL usually, also out of practice with the cross and my F2L lookahead, currently averaging 90 seconds.

[@abbe1255]

E Hillis. J,T and Y perm are very similar. It’s the same alg but you just start at different places

[@X-Ternal]

Try a Y perm instead of an E perm, you'll be faster

[@user-mDt._At]

such a long comment bruh

[@119mars]

I love that you took inspiration from fighting games for this video! As a melee player mainly and a cuber on the side, it was interesting to see how you draw comparisons differently than I do. Also money match me 😏

[@JPerm]

Melee player mainly... hmm idk if I should put money on the line

[@gigglezcubing3846]

Something I do other then cubing is actually playing fighting games (mk11 injustice 2 ect) competitively (small comps and stuff) it’s a really fun hobby!

[@Tingman]

Thanks for the analysis. I agree with most of what you think, although it does feel like a lot of the evidence you use is anecdotal. (Sorry, blame my science research background.) I’d love to collect more data on this, on a larger sample size. For the record I got into cubing at 33, and I have thought about this topic quite a bit. I am so much more systematic about my learning than what I’ve observed in younger cubers, but yeah I don’t know if I have the same dexterity or speed as they do, and definitely not the same about of practice time. I average about 15s on the 3x3, but again there’s no way of saying if that’s actually fast or slow because it’s all relative.

[@hamadachetouane9297]

Nice comment

[@mccardrixx5289]

You're absolutely right!

[@danpash7517]

Compare the way you lean/practise to olor plz

[@thecardtrickcuber7279]

hey Tingman i hv also subscribed to u

[@actxce9220]

TINGMAN HI

[@mogu-mogu2335]

Its been 2 years since I left cubing and also watching your channel which was my favorite cubing channel and now seeing 220k subscribers...I feel very proud

[@jayyden]

SUR-FUGGING-PRISE

[@ronarmstrong835]

I'm 50. I just learned to solve a 3 x 3 a month ago. I have the advantage of experience. I know that learning to be fast is going to take time.

[@haferbrei7759]

Experience with what?

[@FuckFascistYouTube]

What's your average now?

[@ronarmstrong835]

@@FuckFascistKZbin Im just over a minute. Keep in mind, I've only been doing this a month.

[@ronarmstrong835]

@@haferbrei7759 Manifold life experience.

[@FuckFascistYouTube]

@@ronarmstrong835 That's a better pace than I was on.. I think by 1 month, I was still around 1 min and a half. Here I am almost 6 months later, and am just now starting to get the occasional sub-30 solve, with my average still around 35-40. You are correct about it taking a long time to get fast 😕

[@minnow766]

I am so sick of seeing comments like "I'm x years old and average y is this good"

[@_daissh_]

@@braydenwroten5831 No! At your age, you should be averaging way under -10 seconds! Practice, practice, practice is all the advice I can give you!😃

[@stevenli47]

Ummmmmmmmm im 129 years old and i average -90 im i to fast

[@_daissh_]

@@stevenli47 Yeah, maybe switch your cube from XS to maybe just X

[@JersenMapper]

I am 1918373774462264728466294646467189101100192928384756565663718191001838373747 years old and I average -192910393938 second is that good?

[@stevenli47]

Illusion Cuber14 ok thanks i averag now -50

[@aayushjariwala6256]

TEDx Talks: Where is J perm???

[@paul-petrisorprotopopescu8537]

I thought this comment is more recent

[@artur-rdc]

Shit, It felt like he was talking directly to me at the end lol

[@wagon7052]

hahahahhahahahahahah :D

[@pllskip961]

bro don't say the n word

[@voidedifbroken3953]

N perm

[@TylerShorts15]

@@pllskip961 ningen

[@almond6658]

@@ruizheboi9247 woooosh

[@gdslowingunicorn1806]

When you said that once you have a hammer, everything is like a nail, I thought you meant that you would start to be reckless and hit everything with it

[@fernandox3877]

I am an older cuber but i am shy in front of the non cubers (they look me like what a heck dude playing with that toy) and shy in front of the speed cubers cuz my times hehe No matter the Age guys do anything you Love!!

[@aileenaquino5090]

I gave up when I was a kid. Started last year bc I didn't want my 7yo girl to give up too and it's been much more addictive than I expected. This channel has been a blessing, thank you so much.

[@phs125]

I started cubing at 22 maybe, I'm satisfied by the fact that I CAN solve it. So I use a method, what I call is a SUNE-most method. 1. Cross - intuitive 2. First layer - intuitive 3. Second layer - that one f2l case. 4. Cross - sune and fat-sune 5. Oll corners - sune at strategic position, followed by sune. 6. Pll edges - algorithm (idk the name) 7. Pll corners - sune, rotate, sune It's efficient because I don't have to memorize much. I can do sub-70, and it's enough

[@TheBigFrasier]

This basically sums up my cubing journey. As a kid I learned the beginner method and just did it over and over again until I eventually got bored. Took a long break during high school and college and got back in as an adult. Now I'm more obsessed with memorizing new cases and algs rather than just doing what's comfortable over and over

[@thespeedcubingstudio2537]

I Love Winning - J perm 2019.

[@edladd212]

Really interesting perspective - thanks! I'm 35 and averaging sub-19 after 2.5 years of cubing. I definitely find I'm on the 'studying' side of the fence. I've learned full OLL and PLL; I've got my F2Ls pretty efficient; I'm CN; I spend (too much) time analysing my own solves. I get really frustrated sometimes when I see your critiques and people are faster than me with less tools and more 'mistakes'. I'm definitely guilty of leaning on the "my TPS is limited" crutch, but I'm working on that after your last Patreon critique. Cheers!

[@jtcashmoney121]

Same boat. I'm 35, sub-16, and feel the same frustrations

[@the1barbarian781]

I-Urudux 18 is not that old

[@the1barbarian781]

I-Urudux 16 so definitely not old

[@the1barbarian781]

I-Urudux 11 when I learned and did 3 minute solves, never really touched the puzzle again until I was 15 when I re learned it and improved from there. 16 years now

[@the1barbarian781]

I-Urudux 16-16.5 on a good day

[@r4m1n04]

9:31 Although I'm 15 seconds faster than him, I really admire that red-blue F2L insert. I've never seen that insert but it's actually really useful. This shows that his solves are very efficient and he uses good solutions. Great job

[@nickpsilvestri]

It's neat, but I'd generally prefer U2 r' U' R U M'. Slightly longer, but doesn't mess up FR edge (if it is already inserted) and no F/F', which often require regrips, especially following an R2.

[@whotyjones]

I thought the same thing when I saw that one, haha

[@bobateacuber7646]

That's not his speed, it's a demonstration

[@epic2448]

@@bobateacuber7646 it is his speed lol

[@stripyrex_gaming]

@@epic2448 nope it's not he is a sub 15

[@jasonhatfield3084]

I first solved the cube in 1981 at age 11. Learning the algorithms was all word-of-mouth from family members. The approach was what I would call "FLF2L...etc." I could average just over a minute, working FURIOUSLY to align and rotate first-layer corners, insert edges in the second layer, and doing the last layer corner permutations and edge flips, etc. I can still perform this but I decided to start learning CFOP this year (2021). Do the math- that's 51 years old. Yes, I'm slow at it. I think for anyone learning something "new" (or-relearning something "old" in a new way) it helps if it is what's called an "activating stimulus" i.e., you get hooked and have a hard time putting it down. So I get a lot of practice on beginning algs, develop some bad habits, then gradually recognize specific things that can be improved; which is where the study comes in. I am glad that the ceiling for achievement is so damn high; in the 40 years since the cube has been around, solving has been raised to an art form.

[@lorgaraurelian3392]

I'm 40 and just solved my first cube a week or two ago on a friends cube. Mine is in the mail now and I love watching your content.

[@higgledypiggledycubledy8899]

This is spot on. I'm 39, it took me just over a year and a half to get to a 22.5 seconds average, using pretty efficient F2L, full OLL/PLL. I'm usually around 2.5 TPS. I think from talking with other older cubers that it's often a deliberate choice. For me I found it rewarding to learn efficient solutions (full OLL took like three months but I feel like I have a super power now), and figured it would be more painful to see my times go up if I waited too long. I never deliberately worked on turning as fast as I could, because I reckoned my turn speed naturally increases over time. And I admire smooth steady solves more than choppy fast ones. My plan is to get to sub 20 using my current slow smooth turning, by working on cross execution, some F2L cases that I still have to think about, and AUF. Once I reach that milestone I'll start working on TPS practice. If anyone wants to see how an old cuber cubes, I've got plenty of solves on my channel, including embarrassing competition ones :-)

[@nitroscott48]

I'm 45, and recently picked up cubing. I had one in the early 80's, so it wasn't completely new to me, but I can pretty much echo what was said in this video. I've limited the amount of algorithms I try to pick up and am currently focused on recognition and turn speed. 2 look OLL is fast enough for now, since I spend entirely too much time on F2L to even worry about the rest at this time.

[@teamunicycle]

Everything you said, except I'm 59

[@ace-heat]

As a fighting game player just learning cubing, that smash/injustice metaphor was fascinating, especially since I did actually consciously make that choice of learning just a few tools and getting better at them passively through repitition... which is exactly how I tend to learn characters in fighting games; pick up some basics, throw myself in ranked, and once I feel like I've got a grasp on that, learn a little bit more. And then a little bit more. And so on

[@c3slayer72]

Me: I’m gonna learn PLL Me later:I solved it with PLL while following through the video... that’s enough

[@wolfbraun]

Hey man, can you make a video about all the useful apps, software websites and resources in general to learn, practice, stop times, get scrambles etc? Would really love to see this from my favorite CubeTuber. And should I start off by learning CFOP, or just use the beginner method?

[@nuttyjoe]

Twisty timer, and if you think you can learn cfop then go for it

[@phoenix9148]

JPERM.net

[@xcuzimaproyt9236]

If you are just starting, I would recommend learning the beginner's method first and only then change to C.F.O.P, when you feel comfortable with the beginner's meyhod.

[@wolfbraun]

@@nuttyjoe is there a free twisty timer alternative for iphone?

[@anshumanagrawal346]

@@nuttyjoe No You Should Use CS Timer, It's much better and even all cube tubers use that

[@TheAmazingHuman-Man2]

This sounds very accurate. I was almost 14 when I started cubing and am now 21. I do a lot of studying and turn like a snail and I see young cubers solving crazy inefficient, but with 10 TPS for the algorithms.

[@IPlayGenshin1Handed]

As a younger cuber, I can say that this is pretty accurate. There have been many times when I learned a algorithm and practiced it until I got faster and then moved on to another.

[@macdabro]

I have started about 3 weeks ago at the age of 38 when my son asked me to solve a cube he got... I have started with beginners method, now learning CFOP with 2-LOOK... It is still quite hard for me, but my first goal is to go under 60 :)

[@Kolterversed]

U got this

[@Kolterversed]

Lol it was three years ago

[@RobertDinTulsa]

As a 52 Year Old ROUXber, you hit the nail on the head! Great explanation!

[@square2287]

Looking forward to seeing you at the UBC Open & Downtown Van in the new year 😄

[@BugtenFN]

Square Two ay I’m organizing the downtown one :P

[@square2287]

@@BugtenFN awesome, looking forward to it!

[@SunMinGroot]

Also older cubers have full time job, career development and plus life, so less time to practice. I can only practice in subway on the way to work or back to home. I really enjoy learning from your video. You’re not just my favourite cubing KZbinr but my the favourite KZbinr!

[@WalterReade]

I've been cubing since the 80s. I'm happy when I get a 30 second solve. I agree with much of what you say.

[@paulgcasso6279]

Thank you for this video, very helpful, great advice! 👍

[@lV_DART]

Me: *learns to solve a 2x2 (beginners method) * YEEEY!!!!!! me 2 months later: gets a sub3 2 times in a row..... PPFT eAsY!!!! (still using a beginners method)

[@benjaminv02]

Ok

[@bluie.]

3 min or 3 sec???

[@lumina_]

I don't really get what you mean but okay

[@unix8979]

Sub 3 with beginners seems literally impossible

[@aimarlangley4156]

Ok

[@timeisahorse114]

I can confirm. I started cubing at age ten, and I just used the first method I learned (beginner's F2L, two OLL algs, and two PLL algs) for years and years and years and plateaued at around twenty seconds. Now I'm learning CFOP F2L and 2-look OLL and PLL several years later and it's like rewiring my brain.

[@gangadharbasa3557]

The guy who cubing at the end is an OLD MAN 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

[@swiftcubing]

So helpful! Thanks JPerm. As someone who has only started speedcubing after 36 YO I have felt a bunch of the things you were describing about older solvers - really helpful to have that hint about only practicing a few things at once. In the end, that's the way I was forced to learn F2L as it is the only way my brain could handle it. Super inefficient in half of the combinations that popped up, but at least I made progress on a little bit at a time. When trying to learn all the best F2L combo's from the start, but brain when into shutdown mode and my times went through the roof (1.5 minutes+) due to idle time where I was trying to recognize what I was looking at.

[@nolanyiu]

Pretty much me. When I was trying to get sub10 on squan recently, I was all about doing just solves and not really learning anything new. After deciding to learn CSP, I was able to achieve sub 10. I guess it’s probably good just to do a little bit of both the approach of older cubers and younger cubers.

[@toast99bubbles]

I learned to cube when I was 15 in 2012, using pogobat's beginner's tutorials, and I have used that method so much that I've sped up some of the moves, and cut a lot of them down, to the point that my pb is 23.23 seconds. Whenever I went to competitions, I never did amazingly, but people were surprised how fast I could do a method that is essentially still beginner's. This week I started to learn Roux, using your videos, and I'm a lot slower with that (I learned it on Thursday morning and got a 1:40 average of 5 that evening), but I found it a lot more elegant than beginner's. Since then I've mostly been practising Roux, whilst still doing the odd solve here and there with my old method, just to remind myself that I once took 3 minutes per beginner's solve, but now average around 30ish seconds, so I shouldn't give up on Roux, just because I'm slower there. I definitely feel like I got so much mastery of those few algorithms I learned on beginner's, that I can now spend time adding to what I know, rather than trying to gain more mastery.

[@CH-rk7ww]

J Perm is the best teacher but he is not really good at roux Check out kian mansour's channel for roux tutorials kzbin.info/aero/PLBHocHmPzgIjnAbNLHDycgaCP5IqiwnU9

[@toast99bubbles]

@@CH-rk7ww I'll have a look. Thanks for the recommendation.

[@edladd212]

I rewatched this last week and decided "screw it, I'm just going to turn fast and accept some pauses/mistakes". My average has dropped from high 16s, to sub-16 already! I don't know why I resisted for so long - but I think it's because 'slow down and look ahead' is such common advice.

[@sage_zarf]

slowing down and looking ahead is good practice, if you hadn't done that a lot, after deciding to go fast you wouldn't have reduced your time by much

[@ravikandpal8608]

Thanks J Perm for all hints

[@the1barbarian781]

Awesome video I completely agree! I’m wondering where you would draw the line between older and younger? I feel like I am on the younger side (16years and been cubing for just under a year) and around the middle when it comes to the graph.

[@SamboFlux]

Unbelievably insightful. I'm 41, cubing for about 4 months, and averaging 50 - 60 secs. I've learnt some advance cross tricks, some advanced f2l (solving in the back, algs for cases where the pairs are together on the top, minimising cube rotations), 2 look OLL and nearly finished full PLL (3 g perms to go). He's exactly on the money, my weakness is turn speed and recognition, especially for F2l. My 8 year old kid regularly beats me with beginners method and a bit of 2 look oll / pll, but I'm much more efficient. Amazing.

[@NAM_137]

"It's very similar to Street Fighter." FGC about to strangle the life out of JPerm.

[@mateo-yd8mb]

James Katzaman “Melee is just moving a control stick and pressing a button”

[@CubingFox]

As an Older Cuber with ADHD, it's very different. I do both, practice and study because I use Cubing to keep both my brain and hands busy and healthy.

[@taetae7996]

Nice bro 39 here Every solve at full speed is a test .

[@BerrySwingslow]

I'm 47 years old and learned to solve the 3x3 about one year ago. I don't wanna be fast, I just wanted to solve it. In my childhood in the 80s there was no youtube explaining that and I never had a cube, but my cousin did. Nobody was able to solve it and it was somehow a mystery for us. Then I stumbled upon some videos explaining that. And I learned all that basic stuff. Solve the white cross, I did F2L because I thought that can't be more complicated then solving corners and then edges - it can't be more complicated to insert them at once - and guess what.. it is! Afterwards I tried to figure out what would be easier about doing the corners first.. at least for me it isn't easier. The I learned one algo to solve the yellow cross, one to adjust the edges, one to adjust the corners and one rotate them if necessary. Yeah, it takes maybe 2-3 minutes, but at least I can solve it. And don't even know what sexy move or sledge hammer really do, because everybody explains it, but way too fast and without really saying what's the benefit of that - at least I didn't understand it. It felt for me rather than people bragging how fast they execute that ;p So yes, for a bloddy beginner execute your moves really slowly, that you can really see what's going on.. no offence.. your videos are great. But the fast cubers sometimes forget how hard it is to follow all the turns. I tried to show my brother in law how to solve the white cross and after 2 hours he still did not get it. You have to open your brain for that 3d vision. And bear with the people who not yet have that if you're doing basic how to's .. merry christmas!!

[@Ybalisien]

j perm: the adults tend to learn new stuff to make them faster me: oh so I'm half kid and half adult?

[@keithrx3c]

I'm 52 and have been speedcubing since 2004, I could solve a cube before that but only used the beginner method. I've gradually improved since learning F2L, full OLL and PLL and trying different cubes. I normally get times in the low/mid 20's, sometimes sub 20. Being dyslexic I have a lot of inconsistencies and I can make a lot of mistakes when solving resulting in slower times, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying cubing as a hobby.

[@iyslfj]

Me: I will start learn full oll and start learning 3 style tomorrow Tomorrow; Nah I’ll do it later

[@funtamilanallrounder2700]

As an young cuber , thank you sir .

[@haydnmclennan4739]

thought the vid was gonna be "look at my gan 356xs my mum got me" lol

[@fsncryo5666]

SO HELPFUL THANKS NOW I CAN LEARN MY LAST PLL ALG WITH EASE

[@omega_sine]

I’ve never been so proud of a sub 30 solver.

[@lvj778]

Hes right. Im 35 and started cubbing in January. Im sub 30, so i dont think thats too bad for 3 and a half months. My pb is 16, and 25-30 seconds is normal for me. I definitely did treat learning like i remember studying for test in school. And am considering learing full oll now. I have a bunch of kids so my times pretty limited. Hes spot on with a lot of this. . Trying to optimize what i know and understand more, but want to learn and implement new tools as well. Spot on sir.. J perm is the man. Congratulations again on a million!

[@SpeedStacker-ml9hp]

I got 4 notifications from youtube at the same second so i was confused what to choose But i decided to choose thos and watch it

[@ChilliDuck]

i love that guy in the end of the video. turns with no urgency but then RUSHES TO STOP THE TIMER that move was faster than light i swear

[@jscorpion1466]

So true! I'm a young cuber, and I practice for so long.

[@anthonyrobert1376]

how old are you

[@exoticbutters2952]

Milan Pupavac please don’t share personal info on the internet. There are lots of creepy people out there.

[@Totema.]

When I was 14 i didn't learned the G perms like you said i prefered to do two algorithms, but i stacked at sub20, i stopped until now, and actually i'm learning way more algorithms (all those ZBLL, miam ...) and now i prefer cube slowly but be happy because i use way less algorithms to solve a cube, and i'm satisfied. And i'm suposed that if i practice now ... Now i think i could not stuck anymore at sub 20.

[@rarepepe8790]

This means I'm old inside when im young

[@tpeasetiger]

This video feels encouraging to me as an older cuber. I’ve felt a lot of pressure to learn more tools, but I’ve constantly had to focus on learning one set of tools at a time since I don’t have a lot of time to practice.

[@hamadachetouane9297]

In my opinion, younger cubers sometimes think if they buy a gan 356x they'll be fast but if you already learned everything and have a lot of knowledge you will be much faster . Also , young cubers have time for practicing (some actually don't think about other things and I was one of them lol) but cubers who know when to cube and how to cube will have a good future and cubing won't take a lot of time I still can beat you in smash Bros

[@freddyrh]

I am 51 years old and I started 4 months ago with the world of speedcubing and I totally agree with your points of view. I try to study the algorithms every day and I try to practice a reasonable amount of time. I also think you forgot to mention the time that adults have vs. young people, we normally work between 8-9 hours a day, we dedicate ourselves to household and family tasks that perhaps young people do not consider and have more time to spend. practice. A hug.

[@sumamuniyappa6976]

Who need video on jperm bro's cube collection ⏬

[@livelyt]

I'm 15, when I was little, I always use the beginner method to solve it, and it felt so impossible to get sub 1 minute, but this year I tried to learn F2L and got a personal best of 44 seconds! Not so fast, but still suprised by the improvement

[@Bluelobter]

My best is 1 minute 31 seconds

[@sharpjonathan9383]

I just practiced so much with the beginner's method with a few CFOP algs that I got sub 30 lol

[@SupernovaC]

I’m SOOO guilty of this. For a while, I just put off learning awkward shape and Knight move OLL. So ya

[@argonwheatbelly637]

I couldn't care less how old I am. I do this for fun. Sometimes I go for speed. Sometimes I work algorithms like finger ballet. Sometimes in the air without a cube in hand. If there are others cubing around me, the more the merrier. This is a hobby of love... for me. Love the videos!

[@davidgeier6365]

That dude literally turns like 10tps slower than me and I'm only 5 seconds faster.

[@idkusername2981]

Me too tho I average like him

[@lumina_]

You should work on lookahead and doing less pauses

[@aimarlangley4156]

ok

[@SprayJuice]

*TRIGGERED*

[@TheReezwan]

Young cubers: wil learn cfop method Old cubers: still learn cfop

[@tehn00bpwn3r]

We are designed to learn more as children. Younger children have more REM sleep which is where all motor learning is actually processed

[@stormynight6110]

Soooo is that how I learnt to do a J-perm in a day then... and I was still using the beginner method back then...

[@vali69]

@@stormynight6110 I started cubing when I was around 12 years old and learning algs was really hard for me. But this past month I've been getting back into the hobby as a 20yo and I want to ask how old are you that you're saying you can't learn an alg in one day? Like literally yesterday I learned Y V and Na perms. The day before Ra and Rb. Last week Ja and Jb in one day. I find it easy to learn an algorithm, I first do it a bunch of times while looking at a sheet with all pll, I get to a point where I start getting a flow of it but can't entirely do it without looking at sheet, then I start actually looking at the cube and understanding how things move and slowly I get a feel for it and it enters my muscle memory and can do it without looking at the alg. Takes around half and hour to an hour, but it's much faster for easy algs that have a lot of triggers and modified triggers like the Y perm, or has some moves before an already known alg like Na perm thats basically (R U R' U) (Jb perm) (U2 R U' R') the moves after Jb perm literally being a simple insert when you look at how things move. Like how old are you that you're saying that it's hard to learn an alg in one day compared to when you were younger?

[@stormynight6110]

@@vali69 This is probably going to be a shitty answer as I'm doing it on mobile and I don't fully understand your reply 😅 I'm 13 currently and when I was 12 (at time of writing the comment you were replying to), I had a old Rubik's cube that didn't turn well which didn't help with learning any alg. Right now I can learn around 5 algs per day if I put my mind to it.

[@vali69]

@@stormynight6110 I think you don't understand the actual topic: being old as a person, not old vs new cubes. You made it sound like it was easier for you to learn a lot of algs as a kid and now as an adult, presumably, it was harder.

[@iurigrang]

I had kind of a funny experience in this spectrum. I used to be a very technical cuber, that knew a fair amount of stuff for my speed. But after a certain point where it felt like I knew most of what I needed to be world class, I literally stopped going out of my way to ever learn anything. I pretty much only learn a new CMLL/SB case/EOLR every few weeks when someone tags me and tells me to try it and that's it, and I've been doing that for years now. Cus I realized it didn't really matter much how much I knew past that point if I ever wanted to get a nice world ranking, look ahead and TPS were (and still are) holding me back tremendously, and that's what I've been working on for the past few years.

[@unix8979]

“I’ll beat you in smash 👀👀” Yeah you will

[@almond6658]

Woah.

[@savagekingtexas_3990]

Hold up

[@nostromoalien2]

Great video, I’ve only been cubing a week. Learned the beginner method straight away and have been hammering it. Averaging anywhere between 1:30 and 2:10 now. Just going to keep plodding along for now before learning F2L

[@darthmaul197]

The beginner method is very very easy to learn. 1:30 is the average, so that’s good that you can reach it

[@maylsy8130]

Then theres me who's stuck in sub 20 and gets occasional sub 15 for few months now

[@Naverdo]

Been like that for a year. Then again it's probably because of my 9-5 school

[@mrsenxo]

It hurts how accurate this is

[@KARTIKEYA007]

do slow solves.... trust me, it is actually MAGICAL how good that is. I was stuck at around 15-17 seconds for like two years, never got better.... then recently I changed my approach and made a new one, I make sure I "never move fast enough that my look ahead is compromised"... even in OLL and PLL algorithms I try to be more fluent than fast... I started making moves slowly(even algorithms) but made sure that the "flow" was never lost... for F2L it means look ahead, for last layer algorithms it means I made sure I never have to "re adjust" in between the algorithm as I overshot a move.... Just doing that instantly, almost like magic cut down my time to 12-13 seconds average.... now I barely ever get 15 seconds, 4 out of 5 times I manage to do a sub 15 (13 being the average) So my tip, as a guy who was stuck for literally 3 years, is to simply make sure that you remember "slow and steady wins the race"... if you make sure your solve is fluent rather than fast it will magically cut down your time instantly.... then as you get better at fluency you can try to do faster turns and become fluent in that.

[@akrs_1247]

Miles Mosquera I have been getting sub 30 for a bit and I’m sick of it

[@maylsy8130]

@@akrs_1247 all my time were flat 15 now, i started doing more blind than 3x3

[@basketballandstuff546]

4:12 Amazing!!!

[@AWSMcube]

Interesting. I've noticed the general age of cubers getting younger. At my first comp un November of 2017, the average age was maybe 14. At my most recent comp, which happened this weekend, I've noticed it's around 11 or 12.

[@savagekingtexas_3990]

So you've decreased in age?

[@AWSMcube]

maybe I have ;) the average age of cubers at a competition has decreased, is what I'm trying to say. Or at least I think it has.

[@alienrenders]

Funny I ended up on this video. As an older cuber, I just spent the day analyzing all the algorithms for all the adjacent pairs on the last layer for F2L. I even came up with my own alg for one of them and two shorcuts for two algs if a back slot is unused. I then copied your PDF, added my algs and the ones I found online and kept the ones I liked. I then only kept solutions for the 5 pairs and mirrors. The rest will be for another day. Cleaned it up and printed this nice guide for solving adjacent pairs on the last layer for F2L. By doing this, I noticed 3 of the pairs have almost identical solutions but you wouldn't be able to tell with the original alg. I rewrote them all to have a consistant notation for the main part of the alg. And boom, 3 algs are damn near identical. So I only need to remember 3 algs total for adjacent pairs, one of which is my own creation. Also, the ends are just insertions for most of them and don't need to be remembered including any U moves to align the insertion. So yeah, studying for older cubers is probably correct. But I'm also practicing non stop. I love cubing. I was stuck at 2m a few days ago. I'm now sub 90s consistently and got 67s once. F2L is starting to click. Gonna try to beat my record of 18s when I was a kid in the 80s.

[@TimofeiKouranov]

Huh, I thought the difference between older cubers and younger cubers is that older cubers drink WAY more than younger cubers.

[@menjysmith1]

Dylan, these drawings are hysterical.

[@aaravsinha7218]

Hey J Perm/ Dylan, your 2×2 main is the tiger cube, isn't it, coz' every Tiger and panda should get a home and love. Ah! How I wish this comment would get a home at the top of the comments section and a heart from J Perm

[@ronarmstrong835]

I feel compelled to point out that J Perm got me started on my path to learning the cube. So I subscribed to his channel. Older people can learn things from younger people. If you can bypass your ego.

[@jared4575]

I’m 14 and my way of learning is something that I’ve changed a lot, I’m becoming more methodical about practicing and learning. I don’t think I quite fit the description of younger Cubers in this video. I am a cuber btw, somewhat of a new one.

[@HaileyBug0]

Are you still doing cubing

[@jared4575]

@@HaileyBug0 No. got a lot going on in senior year of HS and forgot about it

[@ze9_BS]

"Kids are good at avoiding N perms" LOL You are just reading my cubing life :)

[@retr.y5605]

Last time I was this early Well idk I’ve never been this early

[@plasma9947]

Ive pretty much been cubing all my life, since 10 (im 16) ive been learning cubes and trying different ones, at 10 i learned 2x2 ortega, beginner cfop and layer by layer pyraminx, along with some other cubes and puzzles like skewb and megaminx. Its cool to look back and see all what ive done throughout the years.

[@peytonwest7876]

It was a chose between watching this and pewds vid no contest

[@RimantasLiubertas]

Why would anyone watch pewds vid?

[@quackersmacker1372]

Rimantas Liubertas because people have their own opinion on what’s good and what’s bad

[@JohnGramer06]

5:59 "if you have finite answers to infinite questions, you're not gonna move"

[@TheChopmama]

I started cubing on 31 December 2019 and my pb is 2 minutes

[@SprayJuice]

Yeah, defenetly

[@blaesus4506]

@@SprayJuice Why should be be lying? My 10th solve was already about 2 mins, at that early point you progress really fast

[@RealLacy69]

When I started I was 2 min 30 after half a year I’m sub 40 sec

[@derfdadude]

i started around same time pb is 2:30

[@krilexu3887]

I started around at Christmas and my pb is 27 sec

[@WhyAreAllTheHandlesTaken415]

0:01 you look like a nail

[@deffonotluke]

I started cubing when I was 12, I'm 14 now and my average is about 23 seconds

[@ausdemradioklingtesdann]

I started cubing 6 months ago and I average about 25 seconds

[@hamadachetouane9297]

I started 9 months ago , I average 16s

[@HypedGmng_]

Show offs

[@whybothertry8642]

@@HypedGmng_ not particularly showing off, they're just saying their times- they might think it's not good so it might not be showing off. Just because you think it's good you think it's showing off, which is wrong.

[@hamadachetouane9297]

@@whybothertry8642 true

[@alexgubar4798]

I commented on a critique a while back asking why the guy could make so many mistakes that I've learned to avoid and still be faster. This explains it very well. I like to think that my comment made you film this video.

[@yaqubi.]

I really want to verse you in smash. Plus what games and controllers do you use? And characters

[@a1919akelbo]

I literally sat down today to try and learn all the OLL algorithms i neglected in high school. Learnt you can't teach an old dog new tricks.