JR. DEVELOPER LIFE - CORPORATE CRINGE |

[@JoshuaFluke1]

EDIT - Middle management has been triggered. You guys should see my DMs. imgur.com/a/DAj6dUq | Share the cringe if you enjoyed! More of this?

[@gusvizcaino4022]

Make it a weekly thing this is a content goldmine

[@JoshuaFluke1]

@@gusvizcaino4022 Haha sure

[@rayman3610]

Hell yea love it bro

[@syanyade1260]

f yeaah

[@fahimzahir9587]

Yeah its good quality content. Insightful & Informative while being funny!

[@erikgardea4543]

WOW I'm not even hired yet and i want to quit lol

[@JoshuaFluke1]

I know right

[@Potenti4lz]

I'm curious how many people get fired per day just because of shit hiring practices or boring jobs or company mandates. So much political bureaucracy. I don't know how my parents managed to stay at Qantas for 25+ yrs each baby boomer gen!

[@EliaquimORosa]

gotcha

[@johnnyj7731]

😂

[@gambit1357]

Lol! Right!

[@BackToBackSWE]

This is too real for the internet. Thank you for existing. Do more of these!

[@defminerva13]

I'm an introvert and I love my quiet and privacy. All of what you showed looks like a nightmare. I like having fun and joking around with people but I need that quiet focused time to myself. Great Video as usual, Josh!

[@JoshuaFluke1]

I guess liking space makes us anti fun

[@larrysunshine]

I bet most of these people are scared shitless. They just pretend to have fun.

[@MichaelThomasDev]

Me too

[@spicymeatball4441]

As an introvert, I'm gonna need a few days without any human contact after watching this video, jesus christ this is my worst nightmare

[@larrysunshine]

I'm an extrovert and this is my worst nightmare.

[@cristinaeden]

Same!!!! Lol

[@SquatComrade]

I am an anticringevert and this is a death sentence to me

[@Nectarine333]

SAME

[@sneakerfreak2002]

I wouldn’t last 10 min before walking out

[@SchwarzeKatter]

"I just would like to take a minute to congratulate all these employees for buying the CEO a new yacht" ~ Joshua Fluke. Please apply cold water to the burned area.

[@Terzaghi12]

Playing soccer in a space with glass doors everywhere, brilliant idea

[@SoFreshBlaze]

Should play hot potato with a brick

[@TheEVEInspiration]

And have some dude play his music all the time on bad speakers, really makes everyone productive.

[@shahrikamin4699]

@@TheEVEInspiration Very inspirational and motivational stuff man! I just can't wait for another 12 hour work day after that !!

[@audizul]

You forget theyre developer, they dont do sports well. Look at the vid, he could barely able to kick the ball.

[@tab8k]

Ever heard about tempered glass?

[@medjedovicm]

Your realism warms my heart.

[@karlobringino8241]

HR: this is your new workplace bright, transparent and shiny. New hire devs: So, where's darkness... my old friend?

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Yep

[@blueice3124]

I'm really enjoying these new videos exposing the BS

[@cananard]

These open spaces are just the modern replicas of the old 19th century factory lines where the managers had offices positioned on a upper level to be able to watch at everyone...

[@arielgoldfarb4118]

Dont de forget they have cams recording everything. Its pretty much like a prison.

[@TheNightquaker]

It reminds me of the factory in Elysium, where there's literally an upper level glass room for watching over people, lol.

[@shadowagent3]

but it looks so cool...

[@asadb1990]

@@arielgoldfarb4118 well aren't cameras in private workplaces illegal?

[@asadb1990]

and thats why most of these tech companies are filled with Chinese and indians.

[@alecthomasquinn4438]

This forced enthusiasm is so frustrating. It's difficult to find a place where you don't have to wear a mask of absolute optimism at all times. Very draining as well (who knew, living a lie sucks). The only people that enjoy this sort of environment are the people that enjoy having and displaying power over others... remember that the next time you acquiesce to your middle manager.

[@alecthomasquinn4438]

Have some pride. Keep that neck stiff.

[@Kloutkulture]

Alec Thomas Quinn Dude this is so true

[@Tommy-km4wo]

Agreed

[@Potenti4lz]

Or people that enjoy getting paid the most over others. 😪😪

[@frydac]

Also a lot of stupid/dispassionate ppl seem to enjoy stuff like this, they like anything to which they are included and seem to get approval by others, they don't care about the job/quality, they just crave approval

[@mrmiyagi5]

I need my own office so I can fart.

[@ebendewd3433]

Same.

[@Strunoder24]

Or just a special fart room in your office

[@pelosuelto70]

That made me laugh too much. LOL Thank you!

[@fahimzahir9587]

Im just beginning to code but I am glad I found your channel. Sharpening my BS meter for the future when applying!

[@minhtao9774]

💯💯💯

[@intotheunknown21]

Yeah, this guy is super helpful. Learned a lot of practical stuff in this channel.

[@TheNaz01]

Real talk!

[@johndoyle3816]

yeah, no, I do not recommend this attitude when looking for a entry job. It's much easier to be selective when you have commercial experience, but in the beginning you should hold onto any opportunity you can get even in a shitty place like that.

[@jdally9872]

@@johndoyle3816 sadly this guy is right. My BS meter was ever-sharpened once I started applying for jobs again after a year or so of freelancing, but all that did was make it harder for me to land one (because they're all TOTALLY full of bullshit, it's unavoidable). I'm still unemployed. Use your BS meter however much you can, but if you need a job, you need a job. Don't fuck yourself over

[@calebfielding6352]

My least favorite is when they say "we are family". No, no we are not.

[@lukesky6335]

that happened to me too. lol. And when I asked them for a raise as a family member, I got chewed out.

[@shimia4656]

The same thing for me in my class. Like, I dont know much about you and you dont know much about me and altho we spent 8 or more hours in school together, my behavior in school is totally different from my behavior at home with my family. Peace.

[@asadb1990]

yeah the only time a business is a family proper is when your family actually owns the business. now if your uncle, aunt, etc. but not parents owns the business. they are gonna expect you to put in sweat and blood into the work for low pay as if its your business but at the day, their kids will inherit the business. now if your uncle, aunt, etc don't have any children, maybe you might inherit.

[@basicduck]

We’re software engineers for a reason. WE DON’T LIKE PEOPLE. SO STOP MAKING US STAY AROUND PEOPLE. We are the most introverted workers in the entire force. Just give us some food and water and we will get the job done

[@tiborpuskas1145]

this is legit the best summary of how a dev should be treated

[@wizzyone1555]

I do not know where you have worked, but this is not really true. Even with cubes, I still have to put on my headphones for most of the day. People just don't shut up, even many devs.

[@shahrikamin4699]

@@wizzyone1555 How does it make it not true?

[@wizzyone1555]

@@shahrikamin4699 "We’re software engineers for a reason. WE DON’T LIKE PEOPLE. SO STOP MAKING US STAY AROUND PEOPLE. " That is a generalization that is very far from the truth with many of today's software devs.

[@shahrikamin4699]

@@wizzyone1555 Oh, I get what you're saying. Maybe it's just the community here that aligns more to what the OP said, but in reality, you're right, maybe it's not as true.

[@wolfsonginteractive9124]

True story... An old boss of mine (at an ISP back in the 90s) used to have everyone write reports about why things weren't getting done in the company. Had to be no less than 2 printed pages. This happened at least once a week. One employee finally got fed up and just called it for what it was.. they said in their report: "Things aren't getting done around here because you keep telling us to write reports about things not getting done, instead of letting us do them". Surprisingly, the boss didn't fire the employee, and actually stopped demanding the reports. Things did improve. Mostly. Hard to fix when the boss/owner is the one getting in the way.

[@QuadraAce]

Topic idea: make a video expanding on working remote. Pros and cons, differences between traditional 9-5, social dynamics etc.

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Hmm ok

[@Potenti4lz]

Macedon NKW I wrote a piece here about it. I think a major pro for office work is wider chance of field change/promotion? But it depends on your career projection and company culture too!

[@Potenti4lz]

l posted this article and some guy cancelled his in office interview with me just 2 hours before the interview lol. It’s not even anti office work. www.linkedin.com/pulse/explosion-remote-work-turbo-charging-job-performance-stefan-caliaro

[@NadjaPereira]

please!

[@jdally9872]

Yes this 100x. And @Joe Troll , that is true, which is part of the art of working from home. When I first started, it was a struggle for me too - it went in phases something like, "wow this is awesome, I can work in my underwear while eating and blasting music and working all at the same time WHEEEE!" then to, "I can get so much work done this way, I might as well just work all the time!" to "how do I know when to do normal people things? Do I wanna go out with friends this weekend night? Nah, can just finish this project even earlier" to "ok this fucking sucks, my girlfriend hates me for never spending time with her, but there's no way I could ever go back to working at an office". Now I think I have a pretty good balance (even though still trying to get a regular job once again)

[@tonynee1380]

Love how you expose the idiotic part of software dev companies and software devs themselves. More people should know about it. It is also a mystery to me why there is this culture in software development, it really doesn't make sense to me.

[@SM-sb4tr]

because software development is no longer what it used to be. Passionate people who get in the industry to build fun stuff. It's been slowly hijacked by non technical people getting into the industry just because the money is good and once there, since they need to justify their paychecks they start putting in place "culture" measures

[@huebothedog665]

The thing that makes the most sense to me is that these people were bullied in high school or just weren't cool kids at all. So they try to cope by being like the obnoxious popular high school kids. I wasn't popular at all, but at least I'm not cringe and desperate for the attention I didn't get back then like these people are...

[@einnorw]

these companies remind me of corny teachers trying to fit in with students lol

[@justwanjiku]

r/FellowKids

[@garrettlemieux4620]

Ronnie White duster

[@einnorw]

@@garrettlemieux4620 good eye!

[@garrettlemieux4620]

@@einnorw good taste...

[@voodo4child]

Josh is such a pure soul. I understand you bother. People are like slaves now. This is suffering and smiling

[@TheRamp2010]

I thought I was the only person who felt this way. I hate being pulled away for nonsense when I have work I need to get done.

[@slamislife74]

Check out r/antiwork on Reddit! They're full of ill tempered pessimists like us! :)

[@drewmandan]

Wait till you realize that the work you "need to get done" is meaningless.

[@SaschaRissling]

or maybe just relax for 30 minutes if it happens to be that you don't have anything to do for a while.

[@daysy409]

Gives me anxiety. That's why the day is so damn long. You could condense the work day into 4-6 hours and the same things would be accomplished.

[@thetankgarage]

I'm pretty sure I'd qualify as a hermit at this point. That type of office looks like actual hell to me.

[@sneakerfreak2002]

Yes it does

[@dieter5202]

You would enjoy working here in germany.We don't have such stupid things as humor and are very productive.

[@kazykamakaze131]

I think you misunderstood what he meant. He still likes humor but not when it gets forced my the company. There's a place and time for everything.

[@MrFun23]

@@kazykamakaze131 I think you misunderstood a joke))

[@btnt5209]

Time to start learning german

[@lewis6590]

@@MrFun23 to be fair it was a german joke...

[@arwahsapi]

Always somebody somewhere. r/wooosh

[@TheSunflowerGalaxy]

It seems HR ignores publicly available government studies showing interruptions lower work productivity. Human voices were rated as the most disruptive over any other noises studied. It takes a person on average about 10 minutes to fully reengage their mode of thought from an interruption. How many can someone handle in a workday? This is why I forked over 200 dollars for a noise cancelling headset. I wish I didn't need to, but work is work.

[@FeelingShred]

Noise cancelling earphones are a godsend. I just think you could achieve the same result with something much cheaper like the Koss Plug for example, at US$9,99 or a JBL, also cheap (had both and each lasted for 3 years, including commute train/bus) The foams on the Koss I found better, but the JBL has higher volume output, depends on what matters to you the most. Better foams mean that you don't need to raise up the volume in the first place. I'm so amused that quality of sound can come from such tiny devices, these little things changed my life forever (and also made me even more of a hermit) xDDD

[@thomashenry4798]

No wonder they work 12 hours a day every day 8 days a week. They have to work that long to get anything done with how often they get interrupted.

[@motherlove8366]

Many work days I had where I arrived at the office already wearing my headphones and didn't take them off until I was back home. When that happens, it was a good day.

[@bizzle350]

Perfect video! You mention how they let go like half of the workforce. That happened to me for a Corporate B2B company. They laid off like the entire marketing department. You could have counted on your hand how many people were left. People that had been there like 15 to 17 years and were let go like they were NOTHING. The company was the EPITOME of corporate America too - company-wide events, Halloween costume contests for each department, Football season team events with food and contests, birthday lunches, social media posts, quarter company meetings and etc. The last corporate job that I quit before I went remote had me commuting like 2 hours and some change a day. They would have these outdoor picnics with games, contests and food vendors all the time. I did NOT care once I was drained and a cubicle ZOMBIE. I was just a body at a desk. I would drive 2 hours a day just to sit there 7 or 8 hours at my desk because the executive staff took their time on deciding my work outcome for deadlines. I was waiting for their feedback and for them to make up their minds FOREVER. I couldn't get anything done! That was the first 10 years of my life after college graduation. I'm still fighting to get to where I want to be, but I never want to go back to that life.

[@DamianNAudio]

They don't realize programmers are mostly introverts, and are happier thus more effective when left fruiting alone

[@JoshuaFluke1]

They dont realize anything at all

[@davefx7949]

Is being an 'introvert' a real thing?

[@Walterrinho]

It’s HR that’s wants to pretend that everything is awesome at work when it fact they might not know what actually happens

[@FeelingShred]

In my country, unemployment and sub-employment rates are ever increasing, but at the same time every week I see a new HR/recruitment company. I start questioning how these businesses survive and if they are even legal at this point. When you really think about it, most of the problems come from these HR fuckers and nobody knows where this came from in the first place.

[@Zayindjejfj]

@@davefx7949 What do you mean "is being an introvert a real thing" exactly? Of course it's a thing. Many people have different temperaments and personal quirks that all lead to very different life styles and desires. If you're asking this because you've never "seen" an introvert.... Just know that you don't see them because they don't want to be seen in the first place.

[@GandalfPassing]

I was hired at a place that had a ping pong table and I was happy at first. In reality, I never picked up that paddle once during my time there. And for the very view people who ever did play, it's extremely loud having that in a small office. I didn't pass probation for that company and it was the best thing that's happened to me as I moved on to a better role and team with higher salary

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Awesome

[@Ian-hj8qk]

can't wait to floss at my entry level position in a few months

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Oh god

[@JohnDoe-df8bj]

Bruh.....😂😂😂

[@guitaripod]

Ian Lastname instantly hired and promoted

[@shahrikamin4699]

You better. Or you might be fired for not being a good enough "team player".

[@jackmiddleton2080]

When people are desperate it usually ends up with someone abusing them.

[@danepane527]

How many times did he say crushing it? Well shit a soul doesn't crush itself

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Hah true

[@aleisley5797]

Your comment had me dying hahahaha... well not as much as their crushed souls though ;)

[@hectorandem2944]

#Oof

[@blakejames9743]

Nice comment there Dane! 👌 #workhard #playhard #crushingit

[@randerins]

next: murdering it

[@desidaken3929]

you've opened my eyes to a lot of BS that I hadn't even registered, definitely keeping my eyes open and watching for this crap now

[@Perfidion]

Before everything went to hell in a handcart, I used to have my own office. It had four walls, two doors (locking), no windows, and an air conditioner. It was glorious. I could be at work while pretending I wasn't actually at work. Best of all -- virtually no human interaction. Nine times out of ten, when you've had an absolutely shit day, you can blame human interaction. It's wildly overrated.

[@mignas]

Love my job space. An "away from HQ" (another city) designer engineer office (4 ppl in total, oldest is 32yo). One room, desks with walls, all four corners of the room for each one of us. 3 monitors block the gaps of the table walls, a stack of drawings... all view to the inside is blocked. Its like four rooms in one office room. I can pick my nose all day, eat, procrastinate on my phone etc. The good thing is - we all just wanna do our jobs and go home.

[@willtorres7970]

woah, that sounds awesome. Where do you work?

[@gusvizcaino4022]

The people who are drawn to that type of advertising are the same who fall for pyramid schemes.

[@Trance222]

We work hard and we play hard" is an immediate red flag. It might as well say "We will underpay you."

[@mariedesignz1659]

I like to work at work. Play when I leave work. These videos are are really helping for when I apply for developer jobs

[@ivanlagrossemoule]

I don't mind some fun at work, but it has to simply be natural. This type of "fun" seems like a complete nightmare to me.

[@aloh86]

The moment you said "I absolutely hate corporate culture..." I hit the subscribe button.

[@JoshuaFluke1]

[@snowdroog1]

This was worth watching, you good at this

[@TheDeadlyStyle]

Can confirm, got my first front end job as a junior a few months ago, open offices and forced interactions are the bane of my existence, usually I just go to the bathroom for about 20-30 minutes twice a day to get some peace of mind and quiet. Glass walls and door for every 'private' office, too bad I dont even have a wall cause my department is open space.

[@motherlove8366]

I had a really hard time working with the constant paranoia that ppl / managers can just walk behind me. I can't even type an email with someone watching from behind. For the entire year I was often checking my 6' just to be sure, never got used to it. That last setup where you're facing the view and the corridor is behind you, impossible to work in.

[@CodingCardio]

This is a good series. For some reason, people are afraid to name and shame companies that do dumb stuff like this.

[@Perfidion]

That's because whenever you do point out the absurdity of modern corporate culture, the room falls silent and everyone stares at you like you've just chewed the head off a baby. Then you get accused of "push back", and "not being a team player".

[@mr.sandman8644]

No picture day for the 30% on their way out? I'd like to see the before and after photos.

[@MrFuguDataScience]

I would rather spend my time doing what I want: not with a bunch of dingle berries. These people don't have a life and drank the Kool aid

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Agreed

[@jaskiran2902]

these offices look like my worst nightmare

[@SM-ok3sz]

Jaskiran Never did I ever think I’d miss my cubicle. My safe sterile cubicle.

[@FilhoDeSkyrim]

Your channel is the piece that was missing in my developer path, keep it going mate

[@praecorloth]

Worst job I ever worked, as far as corporate culture, was data entry for an MSP. I do data entry between IT jobs to unwind. It sounds weird, but it works for me. Anyway. This company setup rows and rows of computers. Each computer was offset from the computer ahead of it. Everyone was facing the same direction. And the managers all sat in the row furthest in back. It irritated the living fuck out of me. We were doing data entry, updating the congregation list for a church in Chicago. We were entering peoples full names, addresses, phone numbers, job titles, anything they put down on this church's survey. We were entering it into the church's *nix box, across the filthy, unwashed internet, using _telnet_. I was like, "maybe instead of watching your employees like a hawk, you should focus on the disservices you're doing your clients." I also got in trouble for printing documents. Not that I'm a big fan of printing. But in order to put in peoples' jobs, we couldn't just type it in, we had to select from a menu that was built into this application we were using on this *nix machine. We asked if there was a list we could just run down, rather than dealing with text based pagination. They said no. I know how to use PuTTY, so I turned on logging, went through the entire list of pre-set job titles, and created a basic text doc of just those job titles. I went to print, I didn't have a printer, because as I found out later, I would need management approval to print. Printing was "locked down," but Notepad was available (Notepad: The original Metasploit), so I just told Notepad to print the document, and it helpfully walked me through adding a printer. I printed off a copy for each of my co-workers, only the ones who were working this specific task. This all took me about 30 minutes after my normal work day. I didn't add that time to my time sheet because it made my life easier, and the lives of my co-workers, and what the hell, I'm a people pleaser. Everyone came in to this wonderful list, productivity shot the hell up. And about mid-day I get grilled for breaking the security on the desktops, and printing without authorization.

[@gorkyd7912]

That's... silly. It's funny how totally crazy some of the people we work for are, and you just try to ignore their obvious mental handicaps and quietly collect your paycheck.

[@blakejames9743]

They should have paid you for detecting a discrepancy in their desktop security. Someone's IT department didn't see that coming I bet.

[@TheKlopdokter]

Wanna know the worst thing? When you make shit easier and more productive, but still get in trouble for it lmao.

[@daysy409]

This job is a prime candidate for automation. This shit would drive me insane.

[@lennester_]

Joshua Plz make another one like this this is sooooooooooo eye opening!

[@NiclasGleesborg0]

I subscribed! Very thoughtful video. As a software developer myself I can identify with a lot of your points.

[@comanandrei1993]

That guy at the start, the one looking happy about a 12 hour work day... I get the feeling he never experienced one... Otherwise I just... I can't believe he actually enjoys that shit. Man, 12 hour day + commuting is... what? 14 hours total? Life's passing you by, man!

[@daysy409]

@Yang yessssss 4-5 hours and I'm out! The 8 hour workday makes no sense. Especially for mentally taxing work.

[@cisco8237]

@hlkjsdfhaskjdfhaslid lmao true. Imagine working 12 hours a day. I’ll just do my 8 hours and clock out. Gotta have work life balance to keep you sane, and spend time with your friends and family because time is never gotten back. I just got out of college and started a job.

[@Manuzoka1996]

OMG! Software Enterprises copy and paste EVERYTHING here in Brazil! A creative lack of creativity.

[@NadjaPereira]

I work as a freelancer right now and really hate my corporate years. I've be humilated so many times, but inside I thought I was "lucky" because I worked in a large company. People lose their minds and their health because of this. Now I'm dealling with anxiety and depression for trying so hard to be a "good employee".

[@insideTheMirror_]

I've been in a gringy work like that and was horrible. Learn programming they said, it 'll be cool they said.

[@breakout3348]

Your videos have gotten so much better Josh. Keep up the great work man!

[@crescard24]

YOU ARE A GODSENT. THANK YOU JOSHUA!!

[@randerins]

I lost respect for that video from the first "crushing it" phrase.

[@amarait2]

im also the serious type at work and sometimes my higher coworkers think im weird, but when i see them taking smoke breaks for 15 min every time 5-10 times a day makes me amazed how they got the job. and they complain we're not doing well.

[@seth8141]

I'm a big fan of remote work. You never have to do this stuff. Throw up some emotes in slack and get your work done on your schedule. Really simplifies things if you can pull it off.

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Exactly

[@zyrtor1]

Yep, I do IT operations and it is tough get remote gigs, but it is always a net positive. Too bad the industry keeps going back and forth on it. Slim pickings out there.

[@TDub0807]

How hard is it as a web developer to get these remote gigs? I'm actually just starting my journey

[@needthistool]

​@@TDub0807 I've got a friend who's self-taught, lives in Ft. Collins (which is expensive), and is now buying a house there after she recently got married. AFAIK all her gigs are remote and she has to turn people away now because she has **React** as a skill on her LinkedIn page. Her original degree was in acupuncture, but she got out of it because she decided she didn't like the industry. Note that despite the current React and Angular hype, you will have better job-security and get better compensation if you learn back-end skills. DBAs, back-end developers, and full-stack devs get better compensation that anybody who has "web developer", "front-end developer", or "web application developer". Hope that helps.

[@timw4432]

@@needthistool great info thanks mate! I am currently working on front end stuff, html CSS Vanilla (deep dive - no bootstrap) and have ventured into JS (also keeping it Vanilla to get strong fundamentals). Would you advise trying to get into the industry as a front end and building up my back end (whether it be node / python / PHP etc) and making a move then? Is there less competition in backend for remote roles do you think? Thanks for your time much appreciated

[@madameproblemes6548]

You have no idea how much you've been freeing me the last couple of days. As a fellow digital enthusiast and wanting to be devoted and loving wife I try to kick ass at work and I still feel unappreaciated... I felt like an immature cry baby, hated myself. The version of the realities of my job that I have didn't match theirs and I felt that I was just a noob. My grandma is old and she wants to be proud of me so bad ! They have tentacules in my relationships, my friends, I feel burned out

[@nikhilshankar4190]

Yeah, bring cringe Tuesdays to this channel too!

[@saketshetty]

Hello fellow 9 year old

[@sirdigbychicken-caesar5189]

I've worked in companies with offices or at least screens between the desks. In my opinion, this is better for programming because it enables you to focus with less distractions from your eye getting caught by something happening elsewhere. It does not stop you from collaborating when you need to.

[@sergioandres1135]

I mean Dollar Generator is actually a sick rap name tbh

[@Desi-qw9fc]

"CRUSHEN ET" That office is dark as heck. Paired with the concrete floor, it's like you're stuck underground.

[@Ais4Drew]

“Peak week” - code for I’m going to work you guys through your lunch hour and overtime but still pay you the same because you’re salary. “Peak week”, “power hour”, and the like set off the RGE (resume generating event) alarm for me. If we’re up pooper creek without a paddle the last thing I want to hear is that I should do something different or work harder during a specified time because there’s usually nothing that we can do differently in an hour that isn’t being done already that’s going to fix all our problems. Keep up the great work man - keep sharpening the young devs’ BS meter. There’s a lot of it in the modern workplace.

[@yogurtboy123]

These videos are valuable. Not gonna lie though, they make me more depressed

[@CamoflaugeDinosaue]

I personally take joy in the fact that corporate culture (basically a copy of old factory work culture) is on the way out.

[@IsraelTorres949]

Keep these videos coming Joshua, kids need to know the cake is a lie! Much respect!

[@hiyunnie]

This is so true, those fun activities look hella forced and cringey. Most of the people at my internship just played on their phones for half the day. When we QAs would chime in that the website crashed, it would take them a whole week to just fix. Sometimes I wonder how these immature people landed jobs. They'd call us "work sluts" for being too into our work and doing what was needed while they played mobile games all day erryday.

[@UODZU-P]

I get recruiters that call me and talk about all this stuff - no thanks I'll keep my low rate freelance job where I can make more own schedule and fly to another country at the drop of a hat without attending pointless "bonding" meetings

[@Neveri93]

I need to agree with you.. god I hate corporate culture like this. What is worse it feels like it is more and more common every single day.

[@yashmjj]

I recently watched an episode of Brooklyn Nine Nine (sitcom about cops, watch it it's good) where the Lieutenant asks a Captain to come up with a word to replace *"Task Force"* because it was too aggressive and violent, so they renamed it to "Do Groups" This is what these corporate companies seem like to me... Foreshadowing the actual reality with a fancy / cringe term and mind you I'm only 22 I haven't even had my first job experience (currently about to graduate from Masters of IT) and it's make me hate how these companies lure newcomers in

[@gambo9617]

Remote all the way! been doing it for a year now, wouldn't change it for anything!

[@kerninn]

i hate the same things about force socializing at work. i like you

[@bw2903]

I worked for an small agency that had about 10 employees at its height. They spent money on useless things like snacks and pushed the BS culture, force socialisation, too many staff lunches at restaurants and weekly challenges (forced 2 hours to create something quick and original to showcase). They even spent two full days of photo-shoots of staff and had a film crew for another day all for their new website. Once they launched the new site - all staff were made redundant and they kept the one overseas developer from Bangladesh.

[@jojo_Ca]

Worked at a place with an open space layout yet we had to use slack to communicate with everyone there. Smh..

[@JoshuaFluke1]

😬😬

[@LeonsTerminal]

Literally the same. I slide over to the lead and he says "You know you could've just slacked me". That's when I decided I was going to request remote work. Got it.

[@aleksandrn.odes-spb-nl8525]

Ohh man, you're totally right. It was painful watching this.

[@BigerBoy]

I ma start a BS in CS in one month and boy I am more than thankful that I encountered this channel. Keep up!

[@JoshuaFluke1]

😎

[@popurm]

You are so savage and so right to call out all this bs!

[@kaizun]

I'm remote, and every week on Friday, we hold a 45 minute meeting online where we all thank each other on what a good job we've done. There is about 12 people in my company btw.

[@jonathanmarois9009]

I feel like I work in a daycare with children when I work in those kinds of offices. It's hard to focus and even harder to take anything seriously.

[@tauIrrydah]

Open offices: Cheap and ineffective but a great security blanket for the micro-manager in the Karen haircut. I should add, that our boss thought that 'volume' like the literal quantity of noise in the office, reflected our productivity. We had to shout over each other to hear our clients (no quiet rooms there).

[@SamarionGaming]

Love the vids, I share the sentiment towards corporate bs (had to endure it myself). One point that does not get mentioned enough is: yeah, these cringe-vids exist a lot. BUT there are for sure great workplaces - you just never hear from them. SImply because they are "happy", content, they dont feel the need to convince the outside that they are all-so-great. Same principle with Insta-couples for example. Please make more vids like this, I feel very validated with these and the comment section on these vids.

[@regieds]

I thought that was Tai Lopez in the beginning, gonna say "Here in my garage..."

[@JoshuaFluke1]

lmao

[@paul-exclamation-mark]

GNAWLEDGE!

[@rookievideos8865]

They're crushing it alright. You can see that spirit dying under the pressure.

[@JuanAndOnly]

This video was off the charts on Boss Level

[@f3rn4n2x3str3ll4]

hahahahahahahhaa

[@krasimircholakov857]

Totally agree with you mate.

[@21agdmnm]

those who make this videos and trying to show off how much "fun" they have at work are usually those who don`t have to worry about deadlines.. somewhere in a cubical there`s a guy who`s programming his brains out..

[@NMB117]

I remember when I used to work in McDonald’s and yes McDonald’s...they always had meetings and I was forced to go. After the meetings finished I left without knowing anything new.

[@vasquezg86]

Whoa! I'm so glad to know that I'm NOT THE ONLY ONE who feels the same way about companies that do this kinda bullshit.

[@viewwork1645]

I am with you 100% on this

[@RojsaCom]

I'm sure a lot of people would like to include a link to this video in their resumes. "Dear HR please have a look at his, then multiply it by 10K and that's how I feel about your BS. :)"

[@RomasNoreika]

Love your commenting. God dammn it is on point. I thought that you have read my mind. Spot on. Thanks. Your content is awesome Joshua.

[@billvpham]

Thanks for making this video, Joshua! This is exactly the type of thing that I think people shouldn't be suckered into when looking for a job. For full disclosure, I'm also working as a Software Engineer for a corporate environment, but here's what keeps me at this job: 1. 8 hours a day. That's it. I come in around 8:30-ish, and go home around 5-ish. This is encouraged by my boss. No staying over time. 2. I get Saturday and Sunday to myself plus PTOs. 3. We don't pretend to have a playground at work. We come in to work, then we go home and do everything else there. 4. Due to #3 above, work is formal, but very quiet and relaxing at the same time. Folks, imagine this: you're making $150K at one of these "amazing" startups. Cool. Now consider you're actually working 12-14 hours (yes, I have a friend who's working 14!!) a day. Then 5 days of the week (I will ignore the fact that some of you will bring work home and do it on Sat and Sun). There are 52 weeks per year. Do the math: 150000 / (12 * 5 * 52) = 48. That means you are making $48 per hour. Now... let's say... I have a $100K job but I work only 8 hours a day, same setting. What happens? 100000 / (8 * 5 * 52) = 48. So I actually earn as much per hour, with a lower base salary. But I have those extra 4 hours per day to myself to spend on other things, and on family. Unless you want to dedicate your life to your company, I'd say... my family is still more important. Work-life balance! So for those of you who are looking for a job, as I did, please don't be suckered into high-paying jobs because you literally will not have a life there, and you aren't really making all that much more than someone else who has a lower base salary. The long-term game is more important than short-term gain, and you'll just force yourself to quit eventually with those long work hours. Instead, use the extra hours saved per day to replenish yourself for the following day, and use Sat + Sun to work on your personal projects, or learn something else, or... go out, and have fun, do whatever actually makes you happy!

[@JoshuaFluke1]

2 days a week to 'have fun' isnt enough imo. But its better than 14 hour days

[@billvpham]

Yeah, I agree. Most of it is Silicon Valley's culture and how some folks are "over-enthusiastic" about their job so the bar is raised for others. Personally, I do indeed prefer more "me time" throughout the week. Ah well, at least there are the holidays. Happy 4th of July, Joshua!

[@rdammara]

6:00 wow confettis do really fucking up the video quality

[@tars330]

I'm highly considering switching my major to physics.

[@pugboi8017]

T A R S why? I’m doing both physics and cs. if you’re looking for a job in the research field or academia you’re likely going to need a phd, masters minimum

[@zyrtor1]

I honestly cannot recommend any form of Information Management to anyone very young. I would recommend finance major plus computer science if you have the math skills to pull it off.

[@needthistool]

@COOLBIAN57 Although there's plenty of bureaucratic crap to deal with at most universities, there's also a lot of meaningful work to be done. I'm a mostly a database developer who helps to support a science team and the bad days are easier to cope with because I know I'm doing more than helping to sell shoes or sports drinks or whatever.

[@MarriedMindless]

Please run for US President. I think you have the wisdom of a 60 year old. This open work environment crap started in the late 90s and caused an untold amount of distraction, but it told the employee, "I am watching you because I don't trust you!"

[@austinfarley4971]

Drinking game: Every time someone says "crushin' it" take a shot. I think I've heard this 3 times int he first 3 minutes.

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Already drunk

[@shawnhinton6075]

Thanks for the vids josh always wanted to know what it’s like in there.

[@jamesclarke5960]

"Not dreading a Monday is a great KPI!" I died.

[@mikec360]

This was comedy gold! You have to do part 2!

[@djb5255]

My last shop was about 50 or 60 developers in two giant rooms. It's supposed to be open for sharing but it's only open for eavesdropping. 25 devs, 4 languages, 1 room Go get 'em, tiger

[@HermanWillems]

That sounds like developer hell to me.

[@ThePamastymui]

Like 4 programming languages or 4 speaking languages?

[@feliciaf8]

hell

[@alanhowitzer]

Open offices suck.