I've probably watched at least 100 videos on french drains, storm drains and downspouts and not one video has mentioned the end of the run of pipe and what to do if its not cutting through a curb. You seem to really know what you are talking about. Great video. Thanks
@averybatman76092 жыл бұрын
Right!? So frustrating. Glad someone had addressed this
@Kube_Dog6 жыл бұрын
I had a strange sensation watching this video. Then I realized what it was. I was listening to a contractor who actually knows what he's talking about. Thank you.
@MrHardware16 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I have been building these in my homes for over 15 years and eventually I got a system I like. Blair
@rosemaryyuknavich58076 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@robertklein76795 жыл бұрын
Mr. Hardware, Not to sound like a know it all but someone has a comment about the pea gravel itself plugging up, this person is absolutely right I know without question pea gravel does plug up very easily just think about how small the holes are through the pea gravel, it does not take much to plug every hole. Always use Drain rock (clean River rock) is absolutely the best the space is huge between each stone compared to pea gravel and of course the special fabric that is made for this exact project will make the drain last indefinitely because the fabric can only get a thin layer of dirt on it whereas the Pea gravel will build a layer of dirt as thick as the Pea gravel is deep, stopping the seeping action completely.
@MrHardware15 жыл бұрын
I agree, however now that I line the post hole with landscape fabric the stones hole enough water to last over 10 years. I had to move one and the old hole looked great.
@tomgoggin3865 Жыл бұрын
This is a solid fix for a chronic problem. I have three of those pop-up emitters and the pipes always retain water.
@hollygismonde4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who addresses the end of the downspout drain off system with a great idea
@francesco32074 жыл бұрын
I paid 10s of thousands for complete professionally landscaped yard and this rainwater management system is better than mine installed 10 years ago. Of course techniques always improve. My guys did not use any bedding gravel and for years now each lawn "U" spout remains full with water. I plan tous e this design to improve my drains as next projectd. Here in Carolinas we get flash torrential floods of 3 to 5inch rains in just one weekend (one coming this Thursday from the Gulf) and these systems have to work perfectly. I hever even considered how much water might be backed up in my gutter downspouts!
@jeffthewhiff4 жыл бұрын
Very good video, Mr. Hardware, and I like how you use a "t" fitting in place of a pop-up drain! It makes a lot of sense and would correct the problem of "standing" water in the pipe. This is what I want to install in my backyard.👍
@MrHardware16 жыл бұрын
Lately I have been lining the post holes or dry-wells with landscape fabric to reduce soil infiltration into the stone bed.
@dougtipton67235 жыл бұрын
Can this method be done for sump pump drainage in the yard?
@chelseystadler28724 жыл бұрын
What does this look like? Do you have a picture?
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
@@chelseystadler2872 I have a video coming out where I used a plastic mesh 'cut to size' furnace filter as a base to set a pump on. I is perfect to pump out a small puddle with out sucking in too much mud or debris.
@chelseystadler28724 жыл бұрын
Mr. Hardware awesome! I can’t wait to see this video. Thank you
@ShawnTRD4 жыл бұрын
I was just going to say that.
@jamesd4935 жыл бұрын
Mr. Gilbert, Thank you for sharing this video. I just started your project. My backyard has a retention pond, but water is gathering on both sides of my house between the neighbors. I'm using your T-Pea Stone technique to drain both sides of the house towards the retention pond. You're the best!!
@MrHardware15 жыл бұрын
Give me a shovel and I'll get standing water off anywhere... Blair
@randyman89842 жыл бұрын
James, how did it work for you? thinking of doing the same thing
@jamesd4932 жыл бұрын
@@randyman8984 I did it at the end of both property lines (long sides). It never backs up. I put a mesh in the downspout holes at the top of each gutter. When I pop the top off the T fittings, no leaves! This technique works! You will not be disappointed.
@ellaandthemonkeys4 жыл бұрын
I love it, man! I got a spec house, bi-level. drains from the gutters out to the street. Except they are probably completely rotted away by now. I will just short-circuit that with a french drain someplace in the yard and the filter at the downspout. Thank you!
@garybraden78655 жыл бұрын
Great video... Old school, high-quality instructor. Thank you!!!
@harreetteB4772 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! A very worthwhile and instructive video! The T fitting, the deep hole and gravel are best !
@afara20006 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. I have been using the same popup outlet for years to discharge my sump pump water out but it wasn't efficient and failed after over time. I recently installed a french drain across lowest points in backyard and extended my sump pump PVC line with a solid corrugated pipe into a catch basin connected to french drain which would eventually discharge water to a storm drain. I did the same thing for downspouts. Your solution acts like a small catch basin which is sufficient for water coming from a downspout. But installing a larger catch basin with french drain that has access to a storm drain or street outlet would be a permanent solution for all of downspouts.
@MrHardware16 жыл бұрын
Access to a storm drain... something we all wish we had.
@hillbilly2141tn4 жыл бұрын
I recently upgraded my gutters to 6" gutters. My underground drains were a little problematic, but now, it is beyond ridiculous. I'm guessing from the increase in water the gutters are now pumping? I will definitely be giving this method a try as my yard now had 8 huge mud holes around it from where the gutter drains end. Thanks!
@Keifsanderson2 жыл бұрын
Great idea, using the T. My last system in Illinois daylighted into a ditch, but I'm moving to Florida next. No ditches at the property, so this will come in handy to get the water from the downspout to the swale.
@dark7hery10934 жыл бұрын
"Couldnt put it closer to the sprinkler line huh" - Mr. Hardware. That earned a follow haha.
@BuddyRHS19654 жыл бұрын
Best video of this type I've ever watched. A true pro!!
@MrHardware16 жыл бұрын
The PVC used was called 'thinwall 4" ' or 'schedule 30'. It fits the Filter and the strainer.
@liembui42395 жыл бұрын
Did you use a 90 degree elbow (or coupler) to run from the gutter out to the T?
@jacksplumbingvideos71473 жыл бұрын
its sch 35. you must be talking about genova sch 30 dwv.
@tryemc302610 ай бұрын
I can watch this clip every year ! Thanks
@georgeforall4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise. I learned quite a bit!
@robertlindsay69673 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video Those boots are straight off the showroom floor!
@linebum21125 жыл бұрын
Should you line the hole with Landscaping fabric?
@fedguy91828 жыл бұрын
looks like that downspout was really loose and moving around. Did you have to add another support lower down to anchor it near your strainer?
@MrHardware18 жыл бұрын
Of course the downspout needs to be better attached. I'm pushing the underground side of the job. I'll do an anchor video soon.
@stevecoscia4 жыл бұрын
Informative video. Thanks.
@grgman86378 жыл бұрын
Blair, Don't you need to place landscape fabric in the hole before you add the pea stone? That way the dirt doesn't foul the pea stone???
@MrHardware18 жыл бұрын
Chris, yes pea stone does make for a better job. When I made large drains I cover over the top of the stone around the strainer. This one should last over 15 years w/out the fabric.
@ScottDLR7 жыл бұрын
You do very nice work. I'm impressed that you don't use that corrugated black stuff that just collects debris until it's plugged.
@MrHardware17 жыл бұрын
Corrugated pipe won't stay in line. It will sag and rise over time leaving a crappy job with low points that will accumulate debris and clog mid run.
@ScottDLR7 жыл бұрын
Amen bruther!
@RaMu-di4qm4 жыл бұрын
Great video, had a same problem and this video helped me to fix it... Thank you
@theaveragesoldier10293 жыл бұрын
Great innovation and ideas for thought!
@ryanwaltos22064 жыл бұрын
I like the Tee idea for additional drainage of end. I use bubblers on three out of four of my downspout drains. I used to have similar leaf filters that would always clog with wet leaves clinging to the filter fins. I have since removed the fins. Anything that does make it down the drain pipe gets blown out once or twice a year during a torrential rain. Have NEVER had a problem otherwise.
@InvestingBookSummaries Жыл бұрын
Everything looked good until you put the grate connection under the downspout. That will splash everywhere even with light rain. There are better connection methods going to a downspout.
@MrHardware1 Жыл бұрын
How about this live action shot? kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3y0Z5Wti86fjMk. It looks like less than 5% loss in a heavy rain.
@drewwalter53394 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant! Solved my problem. Thank you sir!
@Tmewani4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Thanks for your video, just installed the drainage system similar to this video, but when it was raining last night & still it is raining very lightly now. So my question is that water is filled half of the T but not coming out & staying still. Maybe flowing slowly down as we have put gravel below the T as you have shown, but should the water stay still in the T?
@JDolan-tr9ku4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks! I am adding a second downspout in my backyard and wanted to use this method. Problem is that it’s a flat yard so I’ll have to dig a slope as I go away from the house. This will cause the tee to be very far the grass line by the time I am done. Question is, can I add an adapter to the top of the tee so that is will eventually sit flush with the lawn?
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
I usually only pitch the pipe 1" per 10' so it should not be toooo deep. I use a piece of pipe to connect the tee to the strainer at grade level in every situation. Rarely is the yard pitched so well the strainer is right on the tee.
@halfdohm4 жыл бұрын
Why use a sanitary 'T' upside down? It seems like it would keep some water in the line since the water has to climb at the end. Great vid!
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
That was a momentary lapse of reason... I install them going down. Flashback from the 60's.
@buxka22 ай бұрын
@@MrHardware1I had this same question! Glad to know facing down is the way to go.
@adammick69714 жыл бұрын
Would this work well with a house that has 5 downspouts and 1800 square footage. Downspouts that go out to the road are all clogged up. Looking for alternative fix. About an acre from the road.
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
I have 5 of these on a house on an island and they still work perfectly. I did have to relocate one tee because I did some grading of earth around the house and I extended it 5' farther away. Drainage away from the tee is important, and not towards the house.
@rachelo10333 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. If the ground gets saturated, the T fills up and starts ponding, will the water start to back up the downspout? My backyard is small, flat and no opportunity to further grade at discharge but would love to take this approach so long as it didn't back up.
@MrHardware13 жыл бұрын
I would extend the pipe at least 15’ from the house to reduce or eliminate water from coming back to the house.
@JoelByrd13 жыл бұрын
As long as it's pitched properly and not being blocked by debris, it's impossible for the water to back up - that's simply gravity and water equilibrium principles at work.
@KeepBlueSideUp3 жыл бұрын
Blair, loved the video. Do you offer installation of inground gutter drains? Thanks -Andy
@MrHardware13 жыл бұрын
No, we don’t do any outside work. Gilbertscontractors.com is a list of contractors we recommend, however they don’t go outside of our zip code.
@ben_brunt4 жыл бұрын
Great video! If I have leaf guards on my gutters, is it necessary to also use the strainer?
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
Probably not.
@nandycanela60613 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Really helped me a ton
@chech1024 жыл бұрын
Does it matter how much you fill the hole with pea stone? I filled my drain up to the bottom of the T fitting and seems to be taking a while to disperse water. Is that normal?
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
It usually takes a few days depending on the pourousity of the soil.
@AdamVergara-jd9vs2 ай бұрын
The end of my SDR 35 run is about 18 inches in the ground, don you think this setup can help the water go up and come out the top of the pipe? Thanks
@MrHardware12 ай бұрын
@@AdamVergara-jd9vs only if it is below (leveled to) the intake. Water won’t flow uphill, but it seeks its own level. That is pretty deep if you are in a freezing zone.
@AdamVergara-jd9vs2 ай бұрын
@@MrHardware1 I have 4 catch basins on the line to catch water from my neighbor’s roof and driveway. The line is about 70 ft long, that’s why the end of the run ended up about 18 inches deep. Also the end of the run is near a massive tree stump making it nearly impossible to install a flow well tank. Anyway, I have to continue to play around with it to get the water to day. Thanks for your reply
@dougackerman41823 жыл бұрын
Interesting video
@Bobble296676 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a great video. I’m in the process of making one of these drains but also had a question on the “T” direction. I saw your earlier clarification on wanting the water to go up but am still slightly confused. In either position up or down won’t the hole with stone fill first? While testing it with my garden hose I noticed when I had it positioned up the lip trapping a small residual amount of water in the pipe even when I stopped the flow. This scared me being in Vermont thinking about freezing and re-freezing, I could see that creating an ice dam eventually. With the T flipped down the pipe drained dry every time. Again, won’t the hole fill first no matter the direction of the T? I’ve also got some serious clay in the area of the drain so I’ve gone about 5’ down and 3’ across. It’s a pretty big hole.... any other thoughts on an area with deep freezes and poorly draining soil?
@MrHardware16 жыл бұрын
I messed up about the tee, it always flows down. No need to trap water in the line, even though it is pretty hard to freeze water in a 4" pipe only 10% full. We call the 5 x 3 pit w/stone a 'dry well'. I started lining my post holes or 'dry well's w/heavy duty landscape fabric prior to the stone. It will keep soil from infiltrating the stone and making it less porous. One safety is running the drain line further than 10' from the house. Once there is pitch in a lawn away from the house is where I install the tee.
@ohaya35962 жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 Hi - Can you clarify when you said you "messed up"? Do you that, in the video, you had the T positioned the wrong way, and that from the pipe to the T, it should curve DOWN instead of UP? Thanks!
@MrHardware12 жыл бұрын
@@ohaya3596 Yes, the tee should be rolled down to prevent holding any water at all as it drains.
@ohaya35962 жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 Ok thanks. BTW, your video is STILL timely because my daughter has a new (old) house and we have been checking all the gutter drains and they ALL have elbows like your video showed so we are going to try the T instead. Thanks!
@ChrisBrackman3 жыл бұрын
thanks for posting this. Looks like almost my exact situation.
@eugeniustheodidactus88905 жыл бұрын
Well done! Very helpful ! Much appreciated.
@elong352 жыл бұрын
I have quite a bit of clay. I am currently approx 2ft deep. As I was using the hose to clean out it seems like the water is just pooling and filling the hole. Fill with pea gravel and go or dig a bigger hole?
@MrHardware12 жыл бұрын
Dig as deep a hole as you can, line it w landscape fabric and then stone it. 2’ isn’t bad but here in the clay pit of Michigan but I have made them almost 4’, but not always…..
@elong352 жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 thanks!
@goodguy85634 жыл бұрын
Great ideas
@sku329563 жыл бұрын
Cleaning the the drain pipe is normal with trees ,I do like the idea of the mini drywell you made at the end , the gutter water will splash off, collecting 95% not sure ?
@traceystock7352 Жыл бұрын
Hi sir Very good video my 18 month old downspout extension pop-up came off after a long hard rain and when I looked at it, the elbow was full of water. I dont know how to disconnect the buried extension from the downspout because they used some sort of hardware that isnt a screw and I lack the tool (teeny ratchet?) to check and the installer wont come out for a small repair. So I guess I'm asking, if the elbow is full of water, could it just be that the buried extension pipe is full of water because the rain stopped suddenly and there isn't enough down angle to push the rest out (i.e. is it possible the rain was so strong it pushed so much volume fast that the pop up came off but when it stopped, it just sat there and I dont have a problem?)? The reason I asked is that the pop up got pushed off. We have no trees nearby to clog our gutters. Also just curious why you didnt consider relocating the exit away from the sprinkler (not a jab) just wondering
@MrHardware1 Жыл бұрын
I don’t like using an elbow at the pop up, it doesn’t drain like a tee w/a stone drain below does.
@CR-ow2wp5 жыл бұрын
Terrific video. Thanks for the detailed explanations.
@joannemendozac32285 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video. Since I'm unable to do this task myself, do you recommend I hire someone who fixes gutters or someone who can fix the drain? Mine is currently clogged. and requires immediate attention.
@MrHardware15 жыл бұрын
I would go for a sewer professional. They will have the cable and ability to pull the dead leaves out of the system.
@showandgo5 жыл бұрын
Very well explained video, smile at the end is priceless. Thank you!
@we3k1ngs12 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@TheBrownSys7 жыл бұрын
In my install I used a 9" catch basin in the line about 3 feet from the down spout. The catch basin handles all debris coming off the roof. I also have gutter guards so the debris is minimal. I used a pop up but I dug a deep hole below the elbow and filled it with pea stone. I then drilled several holes in the bottom of the pop up elbow so that any standing water could drain to the pea stone and the majority of the water would leave through the pop up. Its only been in service for a year but it's clean and working perfectly so far. Any erosion/sink hole issues in the long run using your method?
@blairgilbert76067 жыл бұрын
TheBrownSys The 10' long run is to prevent water from seeping back to the house. It is a solid pipe so the only erosion or sink hole will be 10' from the dwelling. I have a house on an island with soft soil and my only issue is I have to trim the grass off the strainer once or twice a year since they are over 10 years old.15 seconds w/ a string trimmer.
@TheBrownSys7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. My concern would be that dropping that much water straight into the ground would eventually create a sink hole but I guess the pea stone is adequate in preventing that. I think I may try this method on a new drain pipe I have to lay on the other side of the house where I won't be able to easily use a popup.
@lsmtairy3 жыл бұрын
Can you recommend a company in Philadelphia, PA that will reroute or replace underground extenstion?
@GriffinsFanChris2 жыл бұрын
I have gutter guards so all of the leaves and shingle grit stay on top of them. This looks like a great way to run the extensions. Now, I have to sort through the PVC vs. corrugated arguments... Im seeing many proponents of both
@MrHardware12 жыл бұрын
The finer mesh guards have come out since I did this video. Atlas and Gutter Glove both look like better systems that are very similar to each other. It’s not on my list but Gilbert’s Hardware is looking for a vender to supply us… It’s tough to get a salesperson, wholesale, to respond. Not enough help I guess.
@GriffinsFanChris2 жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 I'm using something called Raptor. I've had them on since 2019. I took one section off to replace it (a large stick fell and punched a hole in it) and the only stuff I found in the gutter was dust, like silt.
@MrHardware12 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinsFanChris yep, it looks like a good product also.
@macmorgan66855 жыл бұрын
Thanks, exactly what I was looking for
@04corvetteguy4 жыл бұрын
great video, this is exactly what I needed to see as I do not want to use a pop up emitter or catch basin. One question, what is the "sleeve" piece that you are using to connect the 4" cap to the WYE piece?
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
It is just a short piece of the pipe, that if you don't need to cut the 10' you do need to cut a short piece of in the beginning for this purpose. To connect the t to the strainer can be short or long depending on the grade of your yard. I doesn't matter if you purchased several lengths of pipe for larger systems.
@whymedude883 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these videos. It's really appreciated. I watch the original one which is what I replicated but we have a rain storm going on tonight and I noticed that there is way too much water flowing back through the channel. I'm not sure if it's because I just use the regular t? I noticed your tea looks a little different I saw that one at Home Depot but didn't get it and I also noticed on this video you talk about turning it upside down which is different I'm not sure why it's turned upside down. With this being said the rain is pretty heavy outside and it's definitely coming out through the mirror but it is also flowing back through the channel even though there is P Gravel there. Just wondering if you have any suggestions?
@MrHardware13 жыл бұрын
Stephen, the plan is to have the outlet at least 10’ from the house and have enough grade between the outlet and the house so water has to flow away and not back towards the house. The direction of the tee is not super important but I should have it rolling down. I had a brain fart. The stone below the tee is for winter drainage only.
@whymedude883 жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 OK thank you and I appreciate the comments I will check slope again but I believe I have greater than 1% slope on a 10 foot run so it should be enough I’m not sure I will double check. With being said, I wonder if I could put a cap on the bottom of the T and then drill a couple of half inch holes for drainage. This would still allow the water to go out through the bottom and not freeze here in Toronto Canada,
@MrHardware13 жыл бұрын
@@whymedude88 don’t cap the bottom of the tee. Once the stone below is saturated all the water will flow out the top. If there could be water saturating the soil too close to the basement extend the pipe 5 or more feet away from the house.
@davidl22815 жыл бұрын
During very heavy raining will the water back up and run out close to the house? It seems like it would since the downspout is not all the way down n the pipe, im just trying to learn because I am trying to fix mine now, im not trying to be negative, I appreciate your video, thanks.
@MrHardware15 жыл бұрын
If you feel your roof area is over average raise the strainer up 6" or so, it will buy cushion for the water to be forced out the strainer in the lawn. I have a 30' x 40' roof area dumping into a strainer close to my paver walkway and I lose hardly any water off the strainer during a heavy rain storm.
@timkarcher67242 жыл бұрын
Why not use pop up on top of T? The strainer prevents stuff from flushing out more than pop up
@fedguy91828 жыл бұрын
I didn't find one of those angled downspout filters so I used a 9in catch basin that the downspout pours into. It seems to work pretty good. I noticed that the roof granules and scrum settle in the sump part of the basin and can be periodically cleaned out by removing the catch basin grate.
@MrHardware18 жыл бұрын
You gotta work with what you can get. They work but do not self clean like the angled ones.
@timothycollins8027 жыл бұрын
Neat . I wondered about the landscape fabric too. Thank you for the update . Now, what about the pitch, and the length .? If you would please , I also was interested in the grate that got installed above ground , that is 45* and inserted into the pipe right underneath the down spout .
@MrHardware17 жыл бұрын
I like to pitch the pipe at least 1" per 10 ft from the house to the tee. The 45 degree filter at the downspout works great in keeping leaves out of the underground system. It is available on mrhardware.com. It sits directly on a short piece of 4" sec 30 pvc then directly into an elbow out into the yard. The filter, not the angle is the secret.
@debbieashman77706 жыл бұрын
Hi. could you please provide a materials list for this project. Thank you Debbie
@raczyk5 ай бұрын
Can you run the drain pipe all the way out to the street? Is that leagal? Can one drill through the street curbe to have the water out into the street?
@MrHardware15 ай бұрын
I put the tea just shy of the curb so that when the water overflows it comes out on the lawn and then flow into the street. Most cities don’t like you to curb cut because if you’re in a freezing area, the water coming out turns the area into a skating rink, which is hazardous for vehicles and pedestrians.
@snake09114 жыл бұрын
will this system work if I have a downspout in the rear of the house and I drain it in the backyard?
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
What is important is that water flowing out of the strainer flows away from the house.
@AncientHippie6 жыл бұрын
Love the GREAT tips.
@Ameds6135 жыл бұрын
Great video. How should I proceed if the elbow is glued to the pipe?
@MrHardware15 жыл бұрын
Cut the pipe at the elbow and insert the tee, or use a coupling and extend the pipe to discharge farther from the house. Remember the purpose is to keep the basement dry, get the water away from the house.
@pauls37582 жыл бұрын
Now that end where you put the tee is kinda close to the house won't that water flow back into the basement over time and cause more issues? Should be further from the house
@MrHardware12 жыл бұрын
Typically they are at least 10’ from the house. If there is a grade issue where water is trapped and could flow back towards the house I go longer.
@pauls37582 жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 under ground water flows to the point of least resistance I'd go as far as possible from the house
@ericwes73513 жыл бұрын
That strainer is a cool idea. Thanks for that! And I almost didn't watch to the end! :-)
@2siccaudio4 жыл бұрын
I so thought he was going to end with "This is the way" lol. Great video though!
@noelstemple4 жыл бұрын
I just installed one of these yesterday but I had the T going downward, heavy rain today and it's draining but slowly, a few hrs later and it was still pretty full.. should I flip the T upward like you did in this video or be patient? Thx
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
No the tee should flow down, I messed up although water level is raised only 3/4" by installing upside down. Flow in a 4" pipe is not influenced by either installation. Water draining is controlled by the saturation of water in the soil around the base of the tee. It will drain once the ground dries up a little.
@Domyownstunts5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video thank you
@jeffsstuff65754 жыл бұрын
Blair, Thanks for the video. I've followed it and installed 2 of these over the last 2 days at our new home. 2 more to go. The soil is so hard here with clay and rocks, I was only able to go down 2' in one of the holes with my post hole digger. On 3 of the 4, I am only able to go 7-8 feet due to the location but I am running them right up to the drainage swale between mine and my neighbor's house. I hope that is sufficient. One other thing I did was purchased a package of the 4" x 10' drain sleeve filter fabric and poured my pea stone into it in the hole, instead of using landscape fabric. I have a question regarding the height of the 4" strainer. This is brand new construction and they just finished the final grade and will be installing the sprinkler system and sod in any day now. Should the bottom of the strainer be even with the grade?
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
Yes, all my strainers are level with the ground so as not to be a trip hazard or be conspicuous.
@jeffsstuff65754 жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 Thanks for the response. Just had our first rain since installing. All of the strainers popped out. Any suggestions?
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
@@jeffsstuff6575 Two things, I cut some of the plastic webs in the strainer to allow for self cleaning and better water flow (as long a a dog or other pet cannot get a leg stuck in the hole) and I drill small holes in the top edge of the strainer and install 1" x #6 stainless screws to secure the strainer to the pvc pipe.
@RDub44334 жыл бұрын
I’m a total amateur but I just installed one of these systems only a few days ago. Where do I get rocks like that? From what I can see the area closest to the house has dried up but the outlet is full of water like you mentioned. I ran a perforated pipe wrapped in landscape fabrics which seems to be working well but to keep the area from getting soaked, how much space needs to be filled with those rock?
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
I only use solid pipe until I'm 10' or so from the house. Then perf pipe is fine but I want water away from the building. Any stone is fine, pea stone up to cobble stone all afford the water surface area to soak into the soil. Line the hole with landscape fabric to reduce soil infiltration into the stone.
@RDub44334 жыл бұрын
Mr. Hardware Thank you for the quick response. I’ll get on that today. Worked like a charm! My grass may be dead but the water has cleared up! Thank you @Mr. Hardware
@tommichael38205 жыл бұрын
I am thinking about putting this system in along the side of my cement driveway. Do you think this would be ok 3 feet from the driveway? I actually could just run the water from downspout down the driveway but the look is not great.
@MrHardware15 жыл бұрын
I have some 24" deep under my driveway, no problems. The main goal is to have the outlet lower than the bottom of the strainer so it drains.
@russtheman86815 жыл бұрын
How did you get the original 90 deg fitting off the pipe? First you were kind of banging it with a shovel, then there was an edit and it was off. What happened in between?
@MrHardware15 жыл бұрын
I was struggling, it took 20 clips with the shovel until it brook loose. We need to keep the videos short to keep viewers focused so we cut when I'm losing.
@pethalme89504 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@paulieb3344 жыл бұрын
I installed this set up but pipe seems to be filled after rain. How long would you say I wait for it to drain prior to being concerned?
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
It should be gone in 4 days.
@paulieb3344 жыл бұрын
Mr. Hardware thanks! I did two and one works great, the other doesn’t seem to drain. May have to dig up and line hole maybe?
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
@@paulieb334 could be too much clay in your spot. deeper should help... ouch!
@Henson-Hien2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr. Hardware 🙂! Would it be a good idea to use a Tee PVC as a catch basin instead of a regular 6in catch basin?
@MrHardware12 жыл бұрын
I’d use a catch basin over the tee. This system is designed to be economical and w/parts that are easy to acquire. Most of my videos are geared in that direction.
@Henson-Hien2 жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 Thank you for your reply. Is that because the catch basin has more space & air for water to flow easier?
@MrHardware12 жыл бұрын
@@Henson-Hien To me it is because it has a larger area to collect debris and usually easier to clean out when full of crud.
@Henson-Hien2 жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 That makes sense. I appreciate your help, thank you! 👍🏻
@Gr33kG33k3 жыл бұрын
I've never had any success using drywells in Georgia-Carolina clay. It holds water in a way very similar to silicone. I'm not sure this would make sense as a solution to freezing. Why wouldn't the water be able to leave via the primary drain path? Is it to be assumed that the primary drain is frozen solid?
@MrHardware13 жыл бұрын
I attempt to teach installers to locate the outlet at a grade that drains away from the house. The ‘French drain’ I install below the tee is to prevent winter freezing not absorb a roof full of water. I’m sorry for your problem, how far are your tee’s from the foundation? We are in solid clay in Michigan also.
@Gr33kG33k3 жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 I've never had any success using drywells in Georgia-Carolina clay. It holds water in a way very similar to silicone. I'm not sure this would make sense as a solution to freezing. Why wouldn't the water be able to leave via the primary drain path? Is it to be assumed that the primary drain is frozen solid?
@MrHardware13 жыл бұрын
In Michigan the winters are harsh enough to freeze water right at the tee in the ground. The French drain underneath is to prevent the water from standing very long in that tee area so it cannot freeze. Yes 99% of the water is supposed to go to the pipe hit the T come out the strainer and flow away from the house. Usually I like it to be at least 10 feet from the house so I prevent any damage to my foundations.
@SammytheBammy17 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Can you please provide a source (link) for the downspout strainer?
@MrHardware17 жыл бұрын
Send me an email or go to mrhardware.com and order one there. We ship every day.
@kennethhurne5916 жыл бұрын
Great idea with the French Drain, going to be doing this myself. One thought, is the filter necessary at the base of the downspout when you already have a gutter guard type filtration on the gutters? I'm thinking no because the two options essentially are performing the same task - keeping the drain system clear of debris.
@MrHardware16 жыл бұрын
Not as long as the gutter guard does it's job. And if the system starts to fill w/leaves if your gutter guard fails you can add the debris filter.
@jongon2814 жыл бұрын
Will the strainer function well in areas that easily flood? I'm in Houston.
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
Rain water will still come out the strainer even if it is under water. The tee with the stone under it is so the system drains after a rain, in Michigan so it does not freeze, in your area to prevent mosquito breeding.
@nickmarchese3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't you just drill a few extra holes in the bottom of the 90 degree elbow, and install it on top of pea stone? I figure that may be easier than going out and buying more parts to replace your pop-up emitter.
@blairgilbert76063 жыл бұрын
Use a lot of large holes if possible. Leaves clog up small holes easily.
@nickmarchese3 жыл бұрын
@@blairgilbert7606 Actually just found that out recently after a heavy rain! Haha. You live, and you learn.
@raekc48392 жыл бұрын
what exactly do you call this t fitting? the T fittings I see at lowes look different.
@MrHardware12 жыл бұрын
It is a Schedule 30 sanitary tee. Relatively standard item.
@raekc48392 жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 Thanks. I found it after posting. It was listed as "sanitary tee". Couldn't find it just putting in T fitting. Returned the pop up I had gotten and got this. Was a little excited to see the pop up work but this sounds better. :)
@Racontact Жыл бұрын
underground down spout drains are aesthetically nice but not worth the risk. especially in northern climates
@MrHardware1 Жыл бұрын
I have 7 on 2 different homes in Michigan that are over 15 years old and still working perfectly.
@Racontact Жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 I have 7 homes and it's about 50/50. depends a lot on the quality of install and environment
@chocolateandbooks4 жыл бұрын
Before seeing this video, I had a leaf filter system put in on my gutters. No more leaves or debris in system, I cleaned it all out. but the system still sends out so much water when it rains, the ground stays saturated and a mud puddle. The person who put it in, used a U, but a long one, way down for me to dig (I dug over a foot circumfrence down and am not even halfway to the joint where I could remove the U and put in a T). I'm 50 year old female with arthritic wrists teaching myself home repair since being furloughed. I've been Wet Vacing the puddled water each day and all the water standing in the U pipe with the pop up system hoping to get the soil to dry out. Could I use the pea gravel and grate without having to dig all the way down to place the T or will that not do anything? Thank you for any help you can give.
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
A clam-shell style post hole digger may allow you to go deeper with less efffort. Not an easy repair for an arthritic but you can do it in small steps. Is the outlet at least 10' from the house?
@chocolateandbooks4 жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 Thank you so much for getting back to me. It is approximately 16 inches from the paver stones, and 2 feet from the house. Can't give you exact, it's pouring right now and the puddle is quite big even though I vacced the morning puddle and the U pipe earlier until there was nothing left. I replaced 2/3 of part of what I dug so it was easier for me to lift the cover to get to the pipe and if I needed to continue digging for repairs. Unfortunately, the person who installed it didn't know what he was doing. While the lawn is mostly flat with no slopes, he placed it in one of the few "dip" areas so it's the lowest point in that section of the lawn. Not a big backyard, but the water in that general area funnels towards it and he placed the pipe very low in the ground, which I guess is why it's such a long U pipe. I'll probably have to have get a very longT pipe if they make one or an additional 1 1/2" straight pipe coming up from the T before I put the cover back on. I'll probably try to add to soil to raise that area when I'm done so that the water can spread out and evaporate quicker instead of collecting in the dip.
@chocolateandbooks4 жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 I'm also having a hard time finding the "T" fitter pipe you show. Is it known by another name? The only one the hardware stores that deliver by me show is a flexible hose one or very small ones for indoor plumbing. I've even looked at Home Depot. I looked in your online store, but did not see one.
@chocolateandbooks4 жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 finally found a T on Lowe's . Will purchase the clamshell post hold digger and pea gravel as well. Thank you so much! Subscribed to your channel for future projects. Take care and have a wonderful Sunday
@chocolateandbooks4 жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 Thank you so much for the video and your help. It took me two days with my arthritis, but I was able to do it and it worked perfectly! You have a dedicated subscriber now. :) Take care and have a wonderful weekend :)
@genesmay65895 жыл бұрын
Good tips, hope you fastened the last leg of that spouting better it was blowing in the wind away from the drain
@Kenobi4875 жыл бұрын
Can i use this system with a discharge line from a sump pump? Coming off a 2 in pvc ?
@MrHardware15 жыл бұрын
Yes we have. A few considerations are how much bigger to make the post hole (french drain), and to insure excess water has a proper path to overflow to once the french drain is saturated.
@englishruraldoggynerd4 жыл бұрын
Why not cut that awful blue pipe, or switch it out for white, or black to match the downspout strainer? That system looks fantastic, and was very informative. Thank you.
@bennylee25824 жыл бұрын
Good video but.. why not just drill a few holes at bottom of the 90 degree NDS pipe? Works the same no?
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
The holes can clog with leaves and debris, the tee will not. Spend the dollar more for the tee.
@bennylee25824 жыл бұрын
Mr. Hardware thx because of this video I’m doing a t pipe today. But I can’t find the thin wall for some reason
@AStanton19665 жыл бұрын
I blame the local building codes for this. When the foundations get poured, there should be French drains around them and additional underground piping--to daylight--for roof downspout rain water. The time to do the digging is before the lawn and driveways get established. It's easier and cheaper.
@MrHardware15 жыл бұрын
I agree
@fab1i933 жыл бұрын
My dirt is like 99% clay. What adjustments should I make for this?
@blairgilbert76063 жыл бұрын
Our area is all clay also. Dig a little deeper hole and use more pea stone.
@epicgaming49462 жыл бұрын
What about T to a pop up? Wouldn't the pop up be less likely to clog since it closes when not being used?
@MrHardware12 жыл бұрын
I use the popup when the gutter has too much crud that clogs the strainer
@epicgaming49462 жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 Makes since but why not use the pop up always?
@MrHardware12 жыл бұрын
@@epicgaming4946 price, trees in the area contributing to crud and availability.
@Nunman19626 жыл бұрын
What is the actual name of the PVC T that you use? I can't find that in my local store here. If I knew the actual name of the part I could perhaps order it online. Also where the debris filter is, what kind of PVC 4" piping is used? Thanks for any info.
@MrHardware16 жыл бұрын
The PVC used was called 'thinwall 4" ' or 'schedule 30'. It fits the Filter and the strainer.
@finned9586 жыл бұрын
Oops. I did it the wrong way, but I no longer own the home. The new homeowner has to figure it out, but since it’s in California and it hardly ever rains, he might never find out.
@joeshmoe77892 жыл бұрын
Screen at the end of the down spout is just an unnecessary extra bulky part and a waste of money. Most clogs are at the top of the downspouts where they connect to the gutter and in the elbows before the vertical run. Cleaning gutters is considered normal maintenance and must be done regularly. Gutter guards could cut down on cleaning. The "TY" replacing the popup isn't much better. Vertical discharge is a cheap, crappy and easy way to make something look good that doesn't work and get out of doing the job right. Both the popup and your fix are high maintenance solutions.
@MrHardware12 жыл бұрын
Funny thing mine are over 10 years old and only get cleaned every couple of years. Check out the follow up video showing the filter in action!
@franklipski24382 жыл бұрын
does it matter which way the the T fitting is installed?
@MrHardware12 жыл бұрын
Yes it should roll down to aid the draining of water, in one of my videos I show it upside down, sorry!
@whiteknightcat2 жыл бұрын
@@MrHardware1 There's another install company on KZbin that markets their own sweep tee and pop-up emitter. They install their tee with the sweep up, like you did in this video, to aid in cleaning out the line if necessary. If the sweep faces down, it's difficult to get a hand in the line or snake it upstream as you're fighting against the curve.
@shimonshimon83734 жыл бұрын
is the bottom of the T that faces the hole open or closed?
@MrHardware14 жыл бұрын
It is open to a hole filled with stone to allow it to drain over a day or 2 after the rain stops. Mainly to reduce breeding for mosquitos and from freezing in the north.