(JTVFX) Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home - The Probe (Recreation)

[@JTVFX1]

I appreciate everyone's comments on the video. This project was the biggest undertaking for me yet, taking almost four months of work to create. I basically started it right after my Star Trek III "Returning to Spacedock" video back in April. The "Mars Battle" scene took almost half that time just to conceptualize. The element I'm most proud of is the music leading to the battle, that was the part I was worried about the most. While listening to various tracks from the movie that I could use, I found "The Whaler" track seemed to fit so perfectly for the build up to the battle I just had to use it. Here is a list of all the ships that participated in the "Mars Battle" scene. The ship classes/names and registry: Constellation Class: USS Constellation NCC-1974 Akula Class: USS Apollo NCC-1355 Constant Class (Akula like ship with both nacelles on bottom): USS Jupp NCC-1911 Miranda Class: USS Oberon NCC-1806 Akyazi Class: USS Akyazi NCC-1010 Oberth Class: USS Shepard NCC-631 Akula Type 2 (no bottom nacelle): USS Arafat NCC-802 Okinawa Class: USS Torishima NCC-304 Bonus: The constitution inside spacedock is USS Intrepid NCC-1730 based on the movies script. Miranda inside spacedock I went with USS Lantree NCC-1837. Enjoy!

[@Joshuajacobson95]

can you recreate the opening to star trek iv

[@marmac83]

Too much time on your hands.

[@EddieLopez711]

The opening can stay just the way it is just add this. Now who's coming up with the story about the probe. Who what where when and why the humpback whales

[@adz5936]

Excellent work.

[@thudthud5423]

Question: why did you replace the Klingon Bird of Prey with the Enterprise at the end?

[@kylenegus8597]

The shot of the disabled fleet being passed over by the probe is excellent!

[@Charlie-fo5ds]

They look like Micro Machines in comparison when the Probe’s “crystal” passes over them 😂

[@FQP-7024]

When i saw the fleet i just felt pure joy, I felt like i was watching first contact once more, that joy when the Enterprise just swoops in and saves the day, I'm so happy people are still taking such good care for the star trek Fandom

[@kylesbrockassiengmentchann5875]

The fans are taking care of the fandom because the studios sure as heck aren't.

[@FQP-7024]

@@kylesbrockassiengmentchann5875 exactly, I woah i had money to support each and every underrated little creator who has such gems to give us

[@sgtmyers88]

I thought it was like Wolf 359 all over again. lol

[@FQP-7024]

@@sgtmyers88 no ships were destroyed

[@terrywest111]

@@kylesbrockassiengmentchann5875 That is sadly, too true.

[@ransom182]

Love how the Oberth class is using 2260's style phasers!

[@terrywest111]

This is 2285/2286. I'm sure that some Starships out there were probably still using 2260s weapons, before coming in for refits and upgrades.

[@seanwolslau-holdren6731]

I love the fact that the Oberth Class is a science vessel but has the potential to kick ass.

[@ransom182]

@@terrywest111 yep. I really wished we could have seen some TOS style ships in the background of TMP.

[@shaynewheeler9249]

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[@ChuckGarcia-p1j]

@@ransom182off screen in the TMP novel commodore Probert is in communication with uss Columbia which is a pre-refit vessel. Enterprise was the first refit in the fleet and I recall in the novel this is emphasized by Kirks Vice Admiral girlfriend

[@thegreenmanofnorwich]

I always loved Madge Sinclair's last repetition of "come in... please" with that hint of extra desperation at how quickly the Saratoga had found itself helpless.

[@PeachWookiee]

I’d have loved to see the adventures of Captain Alexander (that was her name). Madge also went on to play Geordi’s mom, Captain Silva LaForge.

[@bobg9922]

I thought that was the OG timeline version of Michael Burnham as captain of the Saratoga

[@thegreenmanofnorwich]

@bobg9922 oh I rather like that idea! While I do sometimes find Michael's insertion into Sarek and Amanda's family a bit awkward, I do like the character

[@bundesautobahn7]

Yes, there was some desperation, but she kept a cool head. That's the duty of a captain, even in times of despair, maintain a cool head for the sake of your crew. I would've liked to know whether the crew managed to survive the whale probe crisis, same with the crew of the USS Yorktown, the later (or so they say) Enterprise-A.

[@richardched6085]

​@@bundesautobahn7I'd like to think they survived. It was a feel good movie after all. I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a single fatality in it except maybe archival footage of dead whales. For all of the harm provided by the probe. It was all unintentional as it was caused by transmissions directed at an extinct race of whales. Like maybe a few hundred or thousand people were killed or maimed by the planet wide hurricane.

[@tayzonday]

This might be my favorite Star Trek movie. It totally embodies the mantra: Never let plot get in the way of storytelling. Lovely CGI, by the way ❤️

[@logicplague]

I couldn't disagree with that mantra more. Plot holes completely ruin the immersion, once you set rules for your universe, you follow them.

[@shaynewheeler9249]

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[@TheRonin2120]

Truly loved the scale of the MARS line of ships in comparison to the Probe. Something the movie really needed to give the probe mass and intimidation.

[@HawkGTboy]

The movie could have really used some sci-fi action like this. It was a good movie, but I’d have liked a little more 23rd century action before they travelled back to 1986.

[@acac3529]

@@HawkGTboy Because of this, now I wish the movie would have done it. This scene brought more depth and threat giving Kirk and crew more of a reason to go through the adventures that occured. Or...adding more weight.

[@shaynewheeler9249]

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[@Thunderchyld]

You reign supreme in the TOS Movie era, you even got the BRIDGES... you added these really awesome touches... the scope of the size of the Probe itself... then looking back at the movie footage, you gave this whole sequence brand new life. BRAVO!

[@beatmacster]

superb...finally a sense of scale as how large this probe was! brilliant. well done

[@josephamendolea3431]

I know....I was like...if this is their probe I'd hate to see their warships 😲

[@jamiebraswell5520]

So the size of the probe next to the tiny Spacedock gave you no scale?

[@kevinpunzalan7681]

What a beautiful labor of love this work is to the great TMP-era Trek films! I loved the effort at building a story - where Starfleet slowly wakes up to the threat from the Probe, and all the familiar starships (complete with tactical displays!) brought out to defend Earth. Also appreciate the Easter Egg at the end hinting at a slightly more heroic end for the original E, and its replacement, powerless somewhere in Earth's solar system.

[@RockRedGenesis]

5:12 - Well at least Starfleet learnt something from V'Ger's incursion into the solar system, keep some damn ships near your core systens! Something they apparently forgot when the Borg came knocking though! Great video, and the CG work is really good. Nice work, Jason.

[@darrellhall6622]

Especially when it (V'Ger) was a branch of the Borg. Check out Star Trek: Return for this answer

[@Ambarenya13]

@@darrellhall6622 Nah, V'ger is beyond the Borg. I liked The Return, but I was never a fan of a "small" Star Trek universe. It's much more interesting to have V'ger from a mysterious "machine planet" lurking in the depths of space and time.

[@JeanLucCaptain]

that after after Starfleet "demilitarized".

[@OpenMawProductions]

What was said in TMP was that the only ship in INTERCEPTION range was The Enterprise. Not that there weren't other nearby ships. Remember, the Enterprise at the time of TMP was a state of the art, top of the line, fastest ship in the fleet. I twas the *very* best that Starfleet could muster. IE: All the other ships in the area were markedly slower. And after what happened to the Klingons, it was pretty clear that no show of force was going to do anything. You could have had a hundred starships firing at V'ger and it would have done nothing. It was better to have them maintain their assigned patrols and keep any other powers from trying shit. As to TNG, Starfleet lost its local core fleet at Wolf 359. Other thing to really really truly keep in mind here is that back in the time of TNG and the Treks before it... Space was treated as what it is. Really, really big. Yeah, Federation starships are ridiculously fast, but they're also really far apart. Even local trips inside of Federation space can take days, weeks, even months. Just the little raining cruise in Wrath of Khan took half a day to get to the Mutara sector from Near the Sol system.

[@jw8693]

And with the Xindi incident, not a ship in sight other than a single Andorian vessel 🤷‍♂️

[@opiejaye]

Great work, I particularly love the shot of the fleet adrift under the probe, you get a great sense of just how huge the probe is there.

[@nate9392]

Wonder that probe come from

[@jayenglish6631]

The attention to detail with the Yorktown is beautiful. The “Silver/new bridge, the altered red alert sound, all linking to this ship being the A, I see what you did! 👍🏼

[@Destructor111]

And the JTVFX canon consistency of having the ship's wheel observation lounge windows in the front of the saucer.

[@classicgalactica5879]

Enterprise A was not a renamed Yorktown, nor was it a Constitution Class refit. It was an entirely new vessel, originally named the USS TI-HO.

[@twiff3rino28]

1986 Okudagram bridge you mean.

[@FortressofFanitutde]

@@classicgalactica5879 According to Shane Johnson's Mr. Scott's Guide To The Enterprise, yes. However, Roddenberry suggested that the Enterprise-A was the recently-refit USS Yorktown. I prefer the notion that the E-A is an entirely new ship myself, but this video is based on Roddenberry's idea.

[@wanderinghistorian]

Haha now I remember! I was like, "Hey the Yorktown, I remember that had something to do with the Enterprise A."

[@clintlewis3537]

Dude i love this!!! The fleet was awesome and showing the Yorktown was brilliant. I love the what if scene at the end showing the Enterprise instead of the bird of prey. Maybe you could do a what if scene of the Enterprise doing time warp.

[@jasongradyphstiger6179]

Oh that i will love.

[@OllamhDrab]

(At that time in universe there was no Enterprise though.)

[@sharonec5419]

@@OllamhDrab He means the York town which becomes the Enterprise-A.

[@thespecter5164]

@@OllamhDrab he knows but its called what if

[@xeroxcopycat]

Yeah, but how do you bring the original Enterprise back from having been destroyed over Genesis in the last movie?

[@TadeoDOria]

Spectacular! I love the inclusion of the Yorktown with the correct bridge from the end of the movie, plus the observation deck at the front of the saucer. :)

[@OllamhDrab]

That woul kinda presuppose Kirk stealing *two* starships though.

[@KillerLSXZ]

That was cool how you swapped the bird of prey for 1701.

[@Mole9990]

Almost a call back to Star Trek Into Darkness vibe there

[@BirdOPrey5]

Was kind of disappointed... was looking forward to the Bird Of Prey, but very awesome overall.

[@GESSO217]

Canon wise If Scotty's Automation systems hadn't overloaded we probably would've seen something like this.

[@thespecter5164]

@@GESSO217 in an alternate universe that happened

[@GESSO217]

@@thespecter5164 Rather than going out in a blaze of glory in the mutara sector, The Enterprise is repaired in Vulcan orbit but meets her end saving Earth.

[@adambrown3918]

This is absolutely fantastic! Thank you for paying high attention to detail especially in regards to fleet ordinances. Ships of this era were phasing out the blue Andorian phaser beams for pulse phaser turrets. I also enjoyed seeing a young U.S.S Constellation. She was commissioned in 2275. The probe incident takes place in 2286. This makes her 11 years old. 😀

[@shaynewheeler9249]

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[@Thunderchyld]

Only thing left is to do the aftermath of the probe passing back through the system restoring power like it did on Earth and Spacedock, but this brought a lot of joy, for sure!

[@johnbockelie3899]

I can see a bird of prey making the landing in San Francisco bay, but how does the Enterprise do it ?.

[@mikegallant811]

​@@johnbockelie3899 John ,she likely could do it. Knowing Scotty the way he was such a miracle worker as long as the Enterprise landed reasonably intact he'd find a way to get her flying again!

[@rage_review]

I've seen this film probably 100 times but this is the first time the probe actually frightened me. Well done. The sheer scale of the thing was terrifying.

[@jamiebraswell5520]

So it did not terrify you when you saw how big it was as it passed by the tiny Space Dock?

[@QuackersAhoy]

That was awesome. And I will admit to a wee 'yes!!' moment at the end when the good ship Enterprise swooped in to save the day.

[@mikegallant811]

And instead of burning up in Genesis' atmosphere, Enterprise goes to her long home in the water of San Francisco Bay..... Get this.... A Miracle on the Bay a la Miracle on the Hudson!

[@jayenglish6631]

Loved that special touch at the end. Beautiful remaster. Just goes to show the power of the fandom to make the movies even more spectacular. 👏🏼🤩

[@jessicasretrolunacy]

Wow, what an unexpected treat. Having played Star Trek: Legacy extensively, I recognized a lot of voiceovers immediately, but I think it was a clever reuse of assets. This was an all around excellent expansion of the movie's events. And your teaser what if ending gets me thinking... would it have been more dramatic and fitting for Enterprise to have died this way? As noble as her sacrifice was in SFS, how poignant and timeless (haha) would it have been for her to go down in San Francisco Bay, perhaps even left there in memorial in honor of saving the Earth one last time? Ugh, the feelings.

[@shaynewheeler9249]

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[@jamessullivan4391]

Jessica is a cool fucking name!

[@jonathanbouler5604]

AMAZING!! Absolutely AMAZING!! The fans do the BEST work!!! I'm dying to see more ,and of course the shot at the end showing the Enterprise 1701 in place of the Bird Of Prey has me smiling ear to ear!!!!

[@SJReid82]

Wow, this was incredible! Almost like a 23rd century battle of Wolf 359 or similar to the Klingon encounter with the V'ger probe albeit with Starfleet doing the shooting. Awesome stuff. love all the different late-23rd century era ship designs.

[@hamhockbeans]

That probe make V'ger and the Doomed day machine look like harmless toys.

[@gorbachev-1986]

I absolutely love this! The bit where the fleet engages the probe. You can tell this guy knows his Trek. It is the subtle references, like the Oberth using the older style phaser because it is not technically a front line ship in the Federation-Klingon Cold War. This vid actually puts some depth to Starfleet, that there is a fleet out there, something that was missed in the original film. It is simply a pleasure to watch.

[@ChrisKroznuski]

You may have just convinced me to start making Trek animations again. This was absolutely beautiful. Well done!

[@haydenravenscroft1803]

I remember your tutorials from years ago! You inspired young teenage me to learn a lot about VFX!

[@ChrisKroznuski]

@@haydenravenscroft1803 Your comment made my entire week 😭🤧 Thank you so much for the kind words. I hope you continue to learn about it. Maybe you'll become the next JTVFX!

[@johnbockelie3899]

The adding of the battered Enterprise coming back to Earth sort of makes this a rather different story, how ever the rest of this should be edited into a longer version of Star Trek 4 to fill in the gaps in the story. Also glad to see the Yorktown( future Enterprise A.) in the film as well.

[@DBSG1976]

That was a great touch when Saratoga was almost hit by the probe but floated harmlessly out of the way.

[@VOYENTTOS]

This is it. When fans have more ambitions to old good shows and remake them much better than the license owner. Good job!

[@shaynewheeler9249]

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[@BronzeAgeBryon]

Absolutely glorious! We never did get a true fleet battle in the TOS era films. I may even have not realized how much we needed one until this video, which visualizes the Federation's engagement with the Probe en route to Earth rather than their off screen defeat as in the actual film.

[@shaynewheeler9249]

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[@zachariasbennett5105]

You have done an amazing job at creating such fantastic scenes and filled a gap in the film which gives credibility to what would have happened when the probe had been located and was on a path towards Earth but what you have created is just amazing and the modeling and the special effects is brilliant,well done.

[@studentjohn]

The addition of the extra ships falling to the probe and the attempt to intercept it by a hastily assembled fleet was a good addition - it gives the impending danger time to mature from a strange encounter to something hugely unstoppable. The way it simply ignores the attacking ships and snowploughs them with it's signal is really very good signalling that this is a power way beyond Starfleet's ability to confront.

[@KrytenMark]

I absolutely LOVE this! Overall, it's brilliant, but I'd say one of my absolute favourite moments is that assault force near Mars, attempting to disable the probe. An especially nice touch with the "Wrath of Khan" style phaser and torpedo effects, even, given the time period. 😄 Oh, and lest not forget those beauty shots of both the U.S.S. Saratoga and U.S.S. Yorktown as well. All in all, fantastic. A wonderful love letter to both The Voyage Home and the franchise overall, in my book. 🙂👍

[@BD76EandM]

I thought that probe was so eerie when I first saw this in the theater - that humming sound and those high pitched sounds. The special effects team did a great job with this.

[@adamlatchem1482]

To everyone at the JTVFX team, well done!!!!

[@secondbeta9563]

5:56 Only now I could finally have the definitive scale of this lovely vessel...great shots and God bless your work mate.I loved it!

[@Destructor111]

I've got to give special attention to the spot-on Star Trek II - style photon torpedo effects. Nice subtle evolution of the TWOK phaser effect, too. Oh, and the way you emphasise the SCALE of the whale probe... Awesome.

[@176bammm]

That would have made the Whale probe 50kms or more...V'ger was 98 to 100kms...

[@silkwesir1444]

"emphasize" isn't quite the right word, I'd say. He increased its size! In the movie, there is a scene where you seem the Saratoga right next to the probe, which is the best scene in the movie to judge the scale of the probe. That's the only scene actually which gives any scale to the probe, in all other scenes there is either nothing else seen together with the probe, or (in case of the Starbase) in such a way that you cannot tell how big is it due to perspective. So the Saratoga drifting beneath the probe gives the only indication of the size of the probe. Obviously it's pretty big. However, in the recreation video above, that scene was not recreated, however a very similar scene was included. But strangely, the probe is much bigger in comparison to the Saratoga than in the movie... I'd say by a factor of 4. No idea why he did that. Jason T, if you read this: why did you do that?

[@SGTBizarro]

The perspective of the original Saratoga shot is a bit misleading, considering the probe completely shrouded Spacedock in shadow as it passed by later. Director of Photography Don Dow stated that, as far as in-universe dimensions were concerned, "it was to be five miles long and a mile-and-a-half wide." 2400 meters in diameter and 8000 meters long. So the width would be almost 17 constitution class refit saucer sections. This recreation may be sized up slightly but definitely not 4x.

[@BucksheeRounds]

@@SGTBizarro I think that would seem to make sense given that the probe model was originally supposed to represent Rama for the unshot Rama movie.

[@tyranusfan]

@@BucksheeRounds Where did you hear that?

[@TaliaIGhul]

This is like an alternate take on the Probe incident. Showing us what Starfleet was doing while Kirk and his crew were plotting on ways to get rid of the probe.

[@shaynewheeler9249]

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[@acac3529]

This should be canon it brings context to what happened around Earth and the Sol System

[@shaynewheeler9249]

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[@technologic21]

This was so well done. That probe was incredibly powerful.

[@stevefoster8185]

Absolutely incredible piece of work! Utterly thrilling from start to finish!

[@superginrai8036]

Stunning work. It really hammers home just how powerful the alien probe really was.

[@FJY4323]

A+++++, absolutely awesome work. Really gave it the feel of being within the confines of the movie and the era, while adding something new and plausible.

[@emperorpalpatine783]

This is amazing, Thank you so much for the time effort and detail you put into this

[@kage_no_senshi1224]

Great work, really enjoyed watching this! Nice touch showing more of the fleet esp those Constitution Classes

[@ericwilliams2574]

My god this is a masterpiece recreation! 😍 And replacing the Bounty with the Enterprise was a wild touch! Thank you so much for this! This is absolutely wonderful!

[@Brendan1259]

It was a great switcharoo but I am still a stickler for the bounty flying in.

[@Scotlad88]

I LOVED THIS!! I want this to be in the actual film! Honestly, well done! You Deffo know how to "Make It So"

[@dhaang126]

From someone who absolutely loves this era of Trek above all others - what an incredible work of art!

[@vladquebec]

This could be by itself an addition to an enhanced edition, nicely done!

[@akdamagecontrol]

So many absolutely amazing touches! I love your attention to detail. This has now entered my head canon.

[@mikesdogs6275]

This nerd had giddy enthusiasm watching this great recreation. Thank you!

[@markbelsom3174]

That was brilliant, loved the Enterprise at the end.

[@TheOtherGuys2]

That fleet action was incredible. It's always great to see quality work like this. The phaser effects looking all in keeping with the period and everything, and the ships all looking like that era too. Might have been cool to see some of them not up to date yet, but still, fantastic work! I'm off to watch some of your other videos. :) Keep up the good work!

[@brandankeel1855]

That was epic! Especially the extra scenes.

[@sethzwicker3631]

I always liked this timeline. I liked the ship design, uniforms, transporter effects, bridge look. Well done!

[@hellacoorinna9995]

Back when consoles had surge-protection

[@shaynewheeler9249]

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[@rameseXII4153]

Yes. Thank you for including not only so many fan favorite vessels from this era, but showcasing other Connie Refits. Wonderful job :)

[@TP-ym1xe]

That was fantastic to watch, you had me hooked whenever the scene changed after the first Cetecean probe and Federation starship encounter. A faithful yet original reimagining of a great Star Trek film! I especially like the unique phaser and photon torpedo weapon systems you selected for each Federation ship in your fleet.

[@shaynewheeler9249]

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[@tommymitchell7200]

Amazing job man! I love the late 23rd century ships,uniforms and tech! Your video truly expands this part of star trek and you have done well!

[@shaynewheeler9249]

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[@Wesleyrpg]

That was spectacular, you could easily splice that into the movie and it would be a welcome addition! One thing that Star Trek IV failed to do was really show a size comparison of the alien probe compared to other things in the known Star Trek universe, the probe you designed was bloody huge and really bought some much needed terror and dread. Thank you for creating this!

[@luispanaderoguardeno3306]

I always think that was similar in size to a Sovereign class or less.

[@andrewanderson840]

That was amazingly done and the added stuff, the Mars battle the 1701!!!!!!

[@uraniun235]

Oh yeah, and I loved the TMP-style tactical display too.

[@mchristophersharp]

Dude these just get better and better. Just amazing.

[@eromacque]

NICE work on sticking with Wrath of Khan-style phaser effects, the best the franchise has ever used. This was absolutely incredible work. And nice incorporation of TOS phasers, as well. Your edits of the actual film into your short were seamless. Absolutely great.

[@marleymcleay9228]

The perspective shown at 4:29 is really imposing. Love this shot.

[@uraniun235]

I really dug seeing the Okinawa and Akula-class ships making an appearance! I had a lot of fun playing the old Interplay-era games they appeared in.

[@michaelkantner6420]

I have to admit, your enhancements and recreations of ALL of these Star Trek movies/episodes are ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!! I just wish that they had the same special effects and computers that we do now, can you imagine what those movies and shows would have looked like?

[@travispettit9762]

This is absolutely exceptional!!!

[@davidmarsden192]

This is so brilliant! I would love a copy of Star Trek IV with these scenes added!!

[@cujoedaman]

Sending an Oberth class into battle? Man, he wasn't lying when he said they were sending everything they had!

[@stephendarroch5565]

Its a science vessel with superior sensors so they probably hoped it would reveal some major secrets before it met its demise

[@JGPlisken]

scan it into oblivion

[@jeancabaille]

Well, in battle of the sector 001 in 2373 they sends Two Oberth Class against the FUCKING BORG

[@Kiyosuki]

Every chess board needs its pawns.

[@cujoedaman]

@@Kiyosuki You win this round.

[@Schalldampfer]

Amazing! Absolutely amazing! The battle would have made the probe's threat so much more tangible in the movie. So well staged and I love how you intercut the Starfleet command shots with the new audio from the Constellation reports! Pure art!

[@sjerrytone]

Goosebumps! that was absolutely fantastic!

[@Big73Bang]

Can't tell you how impressive this scene was to watch in a theater, when it flew by Space Dock and drained its power like it was nothing.

[@jcarm185]

YES - love that surprise ending!

[@raven4k998]

yes I loved that the most no crappy klingon ship it's the enterprise to the rescue

[@m5online]

This was really great! Very cool how you bridged the gap of what happened and how much it actually affected the whole of the federation.

[@develynseether4426]

They are considered a joke by many but I love Miranda-Class (and their variants) to see one here detailed like that is beautiful. 😍

[@henleystudios]

I am in awe of your detail and work in this. By far, the best era of Star Trek and the expanded scenes with new ships and especially the Mars Intercept Force attacking the probe to no effect, really brought more story to this scene. You have my respect for this recreation. Well done Sir!

[@nicolajohnson1887]

Someone need to incorporate this into the movie itself, it really adds a lot to the beginning of the movie, and adds extra threat from the probe.

[@shaynewheeler9249]

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[@nicolajohnson1887]

@@shaynewheeler9249 I remember seeing it the cinema back in 86, it's a nice movie, I get nostalgic for those times.

[@shaynewheeler9249]

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[@shaynewheeler9249]

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[@Sabaition]

The fact that you have some of the Constitutions that were cannibalized/reconfigured into transport modules is freaking amazing... This is literally the kind of stuff I think Trek fans were hoping to see when they were told they were getting series taking place in the past. Rather than complete revisionings from such classic looks. Amazing work!

[@ThiloAdamitz]

Those last few shots... goose bumps.

[@shaynewheeler9249]

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[@vintvarner16]

You top yourself everything with a new video. I'm in awe, just the little touches you do, just amazing

[@gustavefrankfurter6462]

I wonder how well the probe would hold up against the Borg! That's a scenario I'd love to see played out.

[@marcbeck7830]

In the novel "Probe", there is mention of a possible battle between the probe and the Borg. You may want to check Memory Beta.

[@terrywest111]

I imagine the Probe would own them even worse, because they rely on their ships and tech to survive. I reckon it would interfere with Borg implants in their bodies along with their ship's systems. The Borg use their tech to adapt.. how can they do that when their tech is effectively neutralized?

[@the_once-and-future_king.]

@@terrywest111 The problem was that the Borg had destroyed one of the worlds carrying sentient cetaceans. The Borg responded to the Probe's approach with a hugely devastating attack. The Probe immediately wiped out all the cubes but damage had been done to its memory. Whole swathes of information was lost, so it went back to its basic mission, protect the young cetaceans from the space-borne 'bubbles' (the Probe's description of starships) and destroy any 'mites' (lifeforms) infesting the cetacean worlds.

[@terrywest111]

@@the_once-and-future_king. Interesting... an official sequence featuring the Probe and the Borg would be awesome to see. Lower Decks officially debuted cetacean ops. Maybe we'll see some mention of the Probe soon...

[@the_once-and-future_king.]

@@terrywest111 Yeah. The whole novel would have made a better Star Trek 5 than the one we got!

[@Boneworm852]

Excellent job on these effects and all the editing and shot composition! The Probe is one of the best effects in Star Trek and you did it justice. 👏

[@ncc1701chris]

I like the fact you put the Yorktown in there if I remember correctly the the Yorktown became the new Enterprise

[@JTVFX1]

If you look closely at the bow of the Yorktown I included three windows in preparation for a future Star Trek V video acknowledging the forward lounge as seen in that film.

[@ncc1701chris]

@@JTVFX1 nicely done.👍

[@ShannonCarter55]

I tend to prefer that the Enterprise A was originally the Ti'Ho, a new Constitution.

[@JTVFX1]

@@ShannonCarter55 I was originally going to leave it up to the viewer to decide whether or not the Yorktown becomes the Enterprise. I think the Ti'Ho preference can still work in this case. I'm sure the Yorktown wouldn't be the only constitution with the new bridge and forward lounge.

[@ncc1701chris]

@@JTVFX1 yes but Gene Roddenberry years ago says of the new Enterprise was supposed to be originally the New York town

[@31terreri]

A masterpiece. Tremendous CGI..

[@USSAncestorNCC75108]

Absolutely awesome. My sincere respects! I also love the recreation of the Golden Gate Sequence, it really shows the size difference between the Enterprise and a BoP, that fits beneath the bridge, while the Enterprise needs to pass above.

[@JTVFX1]

Thanks, I really appreciate it! For several years now, I thought about what ST:IV would have been like if the Enterprise survived ST:III. Back in November I created a template shot using a still image from the movie and the Enterprise model seen here. I wanted to see how that shot would look instead of the Bird of Prey. But after a minute or two of research I knew using the original framing was not going to work. So I decided to have her just miss the spire instead. This shot is actually a prototype for an entire video for ST:IV replacing the BoP with the Enterprise that I'll attempt someday. ;)

[@jeancabaille]

@@JTVFX1 I wonder what will happen to the Enterprise ? She will be refitted once more and continuing to serve the Federation until ST VI or to be decomissioned and still remplaced by the Enterprise-A like in the Original Timeline ?

[@JTVFX1]

@@jeancabaille My thinking for the "what if" concept is that the Enterprise ultimately meets her fate when she crashes instead of being blown up over Genesis. So there would still be an Enterprise-A in the end.

[@thespecter5164]

@@JTVFX1 anything is possible but at least she made it

[@jeancabaille]

@@JTVFX1 Well, it still a better send off for the Enterprise. She help to save the Federation one last time

[@stankythecat6735]

Dude , that reliant class shot … chefs kiss!!! The entire things is amazing

[@ShannonCarter55]

Love the extra ship shots. And it makes sense that the solar system would have starships there to defend it. I find it ridiculous that the movies never made an open attempt. What were the ships of the task force: names, classes, registries? It isn't easy to pause and see on a phone.

[@JTVFX1]

The ship classes/names and registry: Constellation Class: USS Constellation NCC-1974 Akula Class: USS Apollo NCC-1355 Constant Class (Akula like ship with both nacelles on bottom): USS Jupp NCC-1911 Miranda Class: USS Oberon NCC-1806 Akyazi Class: USS Akyazi NCC-1010 Oberth Class: USS Shepard NCC-631 Akula Type 2 (no bottom nacelle): USS Arafat NCC-802 Okinawa Class: USS Torishima NCC-304 Bonus: The constitution inside spacedock is USS Intrepid NCC-1730 based on the movies script. Miranda inside spacedock I went with USS Lantree NCC-1837. Enjoy!

[@smileygabe22]

@@JTVFX1 Oh wow you should add this to the description! I am a huge fan of the Okinawa Class and to see its beauty fully rendered. WOW. Any chance you will be doing more?

[@GESSO217]

They didn't have the budget to show a fleet of Starships defending Earth. Nimoy had to use his own money just to get the shot of the Bird of Prey hovering over the whaleing ship.

[@pyriph]

@@GESSO217 Makes one wonder how much better these movies could have been with larger budgets! They did wonders with the budget they had, though.

[@luispanaderoguardeno3306]

@@GESSO217 And was a amazing scene.

[@PDohm123]

They *really* need to hire you for the visual effects department. YOU know how to make things look GORGEOUS!

[@cdname47]

It's like wolf 359 all over again.....60 years before it happened lol

[@FLAME4564]

Only wolf359 with the Whale Probe and its Amplifacation wave replacing the role of the Borg and its destructive weapons arsenal.

[@cdname47]

@@ROVER25X I dunno, that shuttlepod that loses power inside the space station looks like it's gonna plummet to the bottom of it and crash lol

[@justthinking5091]

That surely has to be more than 60 years.

[@mikegallant811]

@@cdname47 well there's zero gravity in there so it probably just coasted to a stop without any further drive thrust but man I will never forget the two controllers sending out that message"Starfleet command this is space dock on emergency channel we have lost all internal power!" Geez I hope the air didn't get too stale up on ole ESD!

[@JoeKawano]

Very cool. 5:50 The shot of the Starfleet armada going limp and floating under the transmission sphere like tiny insects reminds me of how in the book “Probe” the probe intelligence refers to humans and humanoids and their spacecraft as ‘Mites.’

[@Mole9990]

"Who would send a probe hundreds of lightyears to talk to whales?" - Dr. McCoy, 2286 I'd be careful there Doc, this "probe" just took out Starfleet's "Starfleets" to talk to whales because long-distance relationships are just dreadful to some species.

[@Retronightvintage1993]

I always wondered what happened to the rest of star fleet before the probe reached earth. Thank you so much for showing after all these years !

[@DWOMT]

Great job!!!! Awesome!!! That ending made me bust out laughing! So unexpected LOL!

[@geraldward5318]

What an Ending! This is so good it could seamlessly fit into the original film narrative! Great work!

[@ncc1701chris]

In the original movie The spacedock Scene has the Excelsior in the background when the men are speaking in your video you have the Excelsior in the background when the men are speaking and a constitution-class heading for the space doors nice little touch

[@pointix1]

Very well done indeed but wouldn't the inertia keep the ship in motion until it crashed into the doors?

[@ncc1701chris]

@@JTVFX1 cool. A little cheating is ok now and then.😁

[@Destructor111]

@@JTVFX1 yeah, and in the film itself, those spacedock shuttles drift and slow down, so I'd say there's atmosphere in the internal volume of spacedock for precisely this reason - it's a safety measure on a number of counts. Lovely work here again JT, very filmic - especially in the Mars fleet intercept. It feels very at home in the film, and something we could have done with seeing in the original film. Great concept, fantastic execution!

[@SBatts-vn1bd]

That was beautiful!! Absolutely fantastic!!!! You've got me wishing to see more!!! All my best!!

[@NeonVisual]

oOOooh bonus features

[@coecludd]

Lovely work here. Thanks for spending so much time creating this and sharing 😊🖖

[@rollandstoneberg5748]

ok… I’m ready to watch this What If movie! ❤️❤️❤️

[@EricNTammy304]

I love all the subtle touches, like the probe's luminescence pulsing with each syllable of its whale song.

[@josiahclinch6219]

SHE IS BACK! THE FLAG HAS BEEN RETURNED TO US! NO BLOODLY NX A B C D E F OR J! LIKE LUKESKYWALER SHE HAS RESIN FROM THE DEAD!

[@Username3141519]

Congratulations, this is seriously the best thing you have ever done. Incredibly ambitious and well done!