Judge Baker - Termination Trial - M³th Wins Again

[@kerryadams9100]

When a mother would rather do meth than be a mom, then her rights should be terminated. I am so happy that the child will be adopted by a loving family.

[@lizetteolsen3218]

She is an addict. It is not about rather. It is she has no will to overcome. Did you listen to how many times she attempted recovery? Plus, her own mother is addicted to meth. I see her sad life ending very early.

[@SouthernGIGI]

@lizetteolsen3218 you are so correct. Nobody should ever lose their children over this or be in jail. This is an illness like any other. Whi wouldn't need to feel better in this pos world we live in. It's so messed up. 😫 this shouldn't happen.

[@lizetteolsen3218]

@@SouthernGIGI I am not arguing that sanctions need not be taken against those who have addiction issues. Not at all. CPS is replete with life-altering or ending cases perpetrated by addicted family members on children. Addiction does not mean the addict is not held accountable. My issue with one of the commenters is her lack of understanding about addiction. She was making a case that an addict has a choice about facing parental termination versus continuing substance use. Parental termination is the outcome of unresolved addiction issues. At one point, a caseworker mentioned the mother was depressed KNOWING that she had no real opportunity to be reunified with her daughter b/c of her life choices, and given the time frame. She attempted multiple times to comply, but is regularly unsuccessful. Meth is a scourge that many people only escape with death.

[@blender4464]

​@@SouthernGIGIthe losing her children part isn't a punishment for her. It's for the children. As tragic as it is, the child would certainly follow same path for sure if this woman raised her. Possibly even with just contact. I have empathy for her struggle but i believe the child deserves better and she cannot provide better.

[@ericahoelscher3733]

Adoption is not a perfect solution to a parent suffering addiction. A child in such circumstances may suffer trauma from being separated from a parent, no matter how sick they are. It boggles the mind to consider how high the cost of addiction is to our society vs. the paltry treatment methods available.

[@Amanda-dq2kf]

I suppose it’s really easy to expect people to be available at late hours of the night “after work” every day when you’re hopped up on meth.

[@trickortrump3292]

It always takes me 4 hours to close the dollar store when I’m hopped up on meth too.

[@tvmom]

If she gets off at 11, she probably doesn’t start until 2 or 3 in the afternoon.

[@lbpalexcool1]

Try birth control if you can’t beat your addiction, you are giving our babies lifetime problems and condemning them with your DNA😢😢😢

[@DeviceAnathema]

How do you know she didn't?

[@friendshipbunny2559]

An irresponsible person engaging in a reckless lifestyle did something irresponsible and reckless?? I'm shocked!

[@mandyr4213]

Sounds like she cares as much for signing the paperwork as how much she cares about a child. Tough nuts if her coworkers find out. They probably already do.

[@chula686]

The amount of resources being spent on this is ridiculous. The state should drop all charges and give her a clean slate if she agrees to be sterilized.

[@magi267]

Amy Taylor is wide-eyed at how fast Clare Grammer talks...lol

[@elaineoliver2901]

Lol. Blown away lol. I thought it was on 2x speed, but nope lol

[@StarryNightsAreForDreams]

Bio Mom couldn’t even love this child enough to sign away her rights, and in doing so give her daughter a blessing of acknowledgment that it would be in the daughter’s best interest to be raised in a loving, safe and secure household. Drugs speak much louder than love.

[@Ryn_E]

😘

[@StarryNightsAreForDreams]

@@Ryn_E hey Ryn E! Good to catch a glimpse of your beautiful face and hope all is well. Miss our chat conversations 😊.

[@dougntoni11111]

Why cant they have the mother sign with DocuSign and just send the documents to her email address?

[@lizetteolsen3218]

Has to be notarized in real time.

[@BeekoKat]

The not so swift part of me just realized what M3th is … I was thinking it was some new strange gang that was a takeoff of MS13

[@JulieW11W]

I thought it meant math for a minute

[@helenhoward5346]

Some of these moms are just really messed up from a lifetime of f'ed up trauma and that's all they know. It's tragic. But I think a large proportion of these lifestyle addicts might just be lower functioning narcissists (who also 'prey' upon the vulnerable traumatized group). Some of these communities are just plagued with this crap along with general poverty and deprivation. Having a child removed from you and your extended family/intimate social sphere, you most not have any reliable people in your life. But after saying that, I also want to acknowledge the burden of familial guardians of children who'd otherwise be in foster care, that's a blessing for that child as long as it's a home safe from mistreatment and that offers sufficient support in the child's holistic well-being. That's an enormous sacrifice for a lot of people who did not anticipate raising their grandkids or nieces/nephews, even younger sibling (where older sibling had prior primary caregiver experience in the home and are now adults, things went to hell when they tried to have their own lives during burgeoning adulthood)? younger siblings in childhood I'm not making excuses, new mothers and babies are prioritized in the drug treatment and social services community, ESPECIALLY pregnant women. If you make an effort during your pregnant (the sooner you act after confirming the pregnancy, THE BETTER). Seek help and resources, show genuine effort while you're still pregnant. There's external moral and ethical (maybe even legal) obligations that these services have for the sake of the unborn child. Unfortunately some places just lack the necessary resources to serve the overwhelming need. The drug addiction epidemic really is a largely silent crisis until the levees break or a preventable tragedy involving children with cps oversight.

[@trickortrump3292]

You bring up so many things that a lot of people don’t consider. I would say that if you have a child removed from you, you probably come from a dysfunctional family at some level. I look at how much cps has been involved with my family and I can see exactly how the family as a whole contributed to the problems in the individual homes. Like most of my cousins have been in foster care at some point. I’m the oldest of 11 grandchildren so I was in my 30s when the youngest needed a home so he came to live with my husband and me for 3 years. My grandparents did not provide a stable home for my mom and aunts and uncles growing up and they all turned out to be horrible parents themselves. The only reason we weren’t taken from my mom was because cps never got called about us and the family of enablers did absolutely nothing to intervene when they knew our daily lives were utter hell. Dysfunction is almost like a virus in families and it takes a concerted effort and a boatload of critical thinking to learn how to be sane among the madness.

[@lizetteolsen3218]

They shared her mother was a meth addict. So did she become addicted to it b/c of mom and her friends as a kid?

[@helenhoward5346]

@@lizetteolsen3218 well, it's kinda hard to live a straight life if you come from an unstable 'delinquent' family background. That's all I'll say. It's not impossible to overcome your circumstances if you try hard enough, but some folks are just too traumatized from awful to downright horrific childhoods to get their 💩 together. It's just the reality of it.

[@helenhoward5346]

@@trickortrump3292 that's really unfortunate for your family, truly. I hope you're doing significantly better (as an adult, I assume). You seem to understand the generational cycle of deprivation and self destructive escapism.

[@lizetteolsen3218]

@@helenhoward5346 Your response is very judgmental. Not sure what the word 'delinquent' means. Your initial response makes it sound like she has an equitable choice--being a mom or being an addict. It is not even remotely equivalent.

[@whisperflame427]

I don't understand this. I was an addict and when I started having kids, I stopped behaving like one so I could raise good ones. Addiction is hard but only because the person themselves have to want to change and be willing to do anything to accomplish that.

[@michpratt1]

Attorney Grammer repeated a lot of questions already asked by Trout. That drives me nuts.

[@christyefuller6346]

It may have been the attorney she was stonewalling him. Wonder if he was fooled for real.

[@jsthecat]

Issues can turn up as late as middle childhood with children who were born to drug addicted mothers.

[@louniece1650]

Wow! I never knew that. That's scary.

[@kyliemarie6386]

Completely off topic… I love watching Amy Taylor’s facial expressions, especially when she is really concentrating. The expression on her face most of the time, looks as though she is a deer in headlights! Granted, a lot of these cases are shocking and concerning but I’ve noticed that that expression is just her typical expression when concentrating. Also, Stacey Zavala reminds me of the actor who plays/played the ADA in Law and order: SVU. I forget her screen name and real name.

[@OnTropolis]

I love watching Amy as well! And yes, Ms Zavala reminds me of her too (I can't for the life of me remember the name)

[@leahcoetzee8264]

Stephanie March

[@cortneynichols8537]

The only thing mom did right was showing who she was right at baby's birth. That kiddo can avoid years of trauma and I'm sure will be loved and adored by an amazing family.

[@nicolebrown1927]

This CPS caseworker is the best prepared I've seen out of all of them. They know good and doggone well they goin to testify and don't never have all their notes. I always say, "I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES". SMH🙄 Time girl is well prepared and I love it!🤗

[@CaliMishell]

Mr. Holmes and Mr. Strange are heroes. So much love to give ❤️

[@narcisseamour1013]

If she was done at 1045pm then she didn't go to work till 2-3pm...a whole azz day occurs before 2-3pm. So many excuses.

[@StarryNightsAreForDreams]

I think the excuses were her way of flat-out refusing 😢

[@christy_DAC]

Well her coworkers know now!

[@melaniesaul465]

I’m not sure why but this county attorneys voice can put me to sleep!

[@amyelizabeth135]

I bet Amy Taylor has seen it ALL 😢❤

[@Just_Boo]

Why is Attny Grammer speaking soooo fast?!😮 Amy is amazing that she can keep up with her 😂

[@gailsturgess7094]

Mr Henderson is really ineffectual, wow

[@Jfurg]

Do you have any prior videos to this one?

[@jennifermatlock7811]

I’m wondering why the placement was doing this instead of waiting on her to relinquish and then just adopting? As someone who’s done this it seems weird to me.

[@ElyHayz]

Could Claire talk any faster 😳 poor Amy there must be smoke coming off the keys from typing so fast 😂

[@ameliakennemer]

I think the mom needs some credit for relinquishing her rights. Too many parents are selfish and would rather keep their child in an unhealthy environment or even kill their baby upon birth. This is why the judge said, she’s always willing to relinquish rights if that’s what the parents want”.

[@louniece1650]

💯❤️

[@texasfamily08]

Relinquishment also means the parents have very minimal rights to appeal the termination according to the Texas family code. Relinquishment by both parents in this case means cps would be out of the case immediately with the foster parents being named as the permanent conservators. The adoption would be then be done through the family court system.

[@StarryNightsAreForDreams]

However, in the end as far as we know, she didn’t relinquish her rights. Perhaps her failure to complete services could count somewhat, but I believe that her constant excuses were her way of relinquishing her rights without signing the paperwork to relinquish them. In her mind it probably helps her sleep at night to have not signed; but IMO signing would have been giving a blessing on her daughter to have a wonderful life. This way, she can tell herself they didn’t help her properly, the department didn’t explain what they needed from her, they didn’t give her enough chances, and excuse after excuse after excuse, which she likely will believe. 😢

[@magi267]

Why couldn't that worker meet the mom at 10:45pm? He would have been able to take half a day off later this week. Meet with her, and she signs the papers. Many other people work shift work...cops, nurses, doctors...all to serve the people.

[@sassylady6717]

He’s her lawyer and they have to have her sign in front of a notary.

[@tennysonparks2059]

I work in this field, is it's a safety issue. It's against the department policy to be working at those times unless there's a legit emergency with a child, such as an immediate removal, which does happen all hours of the night.

[@tennysonparks2059]

​@@sassylady6717that was her caseworker wasn't it?

[@OnTropolis]

No caseworker should be expected to work at nearly midnight. Mom had weeks and weeks to find time to sign.

[@patriciaevans5906]

@@OnTropolisabsolutely agree…and with police officers and nurses and doctors their hours are 24 hr….with shift work. These workers here their hours are not set him that way. This mom seemed to be trying to do things her way. She had time during the day…..she’s selfish.

[@patriciaevans5906]

Is it just me or is Claire Grammer talking over the speed limit? There were a few times I couldn’t understand a word she was saying….longer her sentences were the faster she got…..I’d have to ask her several times to slow down. It’s like she’s got a long way to go and a short time to get there….maybe she does….but wore me out listening to her….whew!

[@AnfiaHawthorn]

When it takes you too long to realize that doesn’t say “Math wins again” 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@jsthecat]

Is there a safe age where children can live with their m3thed up parents?

[@bethewalt7385]

Are you flipping serious? You must be a troll

[@krystenburkhardt-hansyn]

So did she terminate the parental rights??? I don’t like or trust this judge.

[@krystenburkhardt-hansyn]

This judge again:(

[@randomvintagefilm273]

Ugh, you couldn't find a better couple to raise this poor child?? Damn This poor kid doesn't have a prayer