Judo ISAO OKANO Choke with Cow Catcher

[@rippersubmissionwrestling2704]

Mate it's all Judo 😂😂 That Gi choke nothing to do with wrestling! Cow Catcher or Side chancery isn't catch wrestling they teach that in Amateur Wrestling 😂

[@ggremlin]

Of course they do! & I never discredit amateur, freestyle, Greco etc. It’s all implemented in Catch. Which is another why catch is very successful. But I always revert to my contribute to catch. It’s not all just catch we know that. But as a CACC guy I stay loyal to my terms & how it was taught. If that makes sense.

[@rippersubmissionwrestling2704]

@@ggremlin Too bad your sport doesn't exist!

[@ggremlin]

@@rippersubmissionwrestling2704 if it doesn’t exist why is there so much history so much technique and so many successful guys either historic, or now that are successful in the “sport?” . And why are so many Great Grapplers today implementing what catch brought when it comes to utilizing and holding a position that pressures them into a Submission ? I’ve witnessed many wrestlers either all American Division I Division II. Ect get dismantled and crippled by a Catch Wrestling practitioner. Due to unorthodox movements and submission set ups that a real wrestler has no knowledge of. & it would be best to change your heading on your KZbin channel. It’s not only a disgrace to the art but it’s pretty embarrassing to label your page something that you have no relevance of. Let alone knowledge of.

[@rippersubmissionwrestling2704]

@@ggremlin This quote is in this article below "What nowadays is known as “submissions” was something that was unknown in the Western world’s wrestling culture. There was no such thing in Western European and North American tradition as winning a wrestling match on submission. The wrestling matches were either won on actual throws or falls of some kind, or on maintaining the on-top or mount position (pre-historical pinfall). The knowledge of what would qualify as submission holds was limited to the holds of Nelson family (holds which put pressure on the neck of defensive wrestler making him stop any resistance), and very basic chokes like “vice-hold”, or “throttling” when attacker puts both his hands on his opponent’s throat and strangles him thus making him quit. Those holds were an essential part of self-defense instruction all over Western Europe since Middle Ages. The headlocks weren’t seen as any kind of submission holds, but were solely used for throwing opponent down most commonly by “giving him hip” or by “giving him back”. Nelsons were widely utilized in both Greco-roman (French) wrestling and in Lancashire catch-as-catch-can wrestling for one single purpose that of turning opponent onto his both shoulders. And often we see in the 1800s wrestling match reports how the journalist would say something like: “one wrestler applied a half-nelson and foot-hold and made his opponent to succumb”, which simply meant that the defensive wrestler was put in the position from which the only escape without hurting themselves is to roll onto their backs, which is what they did and that obviously meant a defeat in both of the mentioned above wrestling styles." www.wrestling-titles.com/europe/pashayev/pioneers-catch.html

[@ggremlin]

@@rippersubmissionwrestling2704 I’ve read this before. & it solidifies that these holds were discovered in the 1800s in the UK for self defense purposes that turned into an art. & headlocks we’re banned due to people suffering damage if not death while being applied. Until later on it became common to utilize. This quote is actually in catch literature. Some articles & some books.