Judo Semi-Finals - Men's -81 kg | London 2012 Olympics

[@kambingterabang]

Here because of Lex's episode with Travis, never watched a Judo match before but this was intense, exciting, and super scary. My heart just feels like it's about to burst out of my throat watching this!

[@SalmanBJJ]

Same :)

[@ahmedabbasalshammeri5461]

Same here bro 🤣🤣🤣.

[@RedNinja673]

The German guy screaming makes it that much better

[@longeloe]

Same here! Even though we knew the result already... Hahaha

[@bsenka]

Me too. I thought I understood Judo, but after watching that I was very confused as to how not a single one of those sequences was worth any score whatsoever (including no shidos), and how if didn't get the decision based on aggression and the number of throws attempted.

[@cerotidinon]

For those wondering why Bischof won, the attempted throw at 6:59 was the only throw in the match which clearly brought the other one off-balance. As the commentators said, it was very close, but I think the win is deserved. Also for those who are wondering where the staredown came from: At 5:18 when getting back up, Stevens accidentally hit Bischof in the face with his elbow and Bischof wasn't happy about that. Stevens said in a podcast later that he didn't notice at that time that he hit him.

[@RichardYu1983]

I had wondered about both things for years -- thanks for the clarity.

[@Konr4dR]

No one said to the German guy to cut his nails before the match?

[@jmsena]

Interesting. Bischof was basically punching him in the face to begin the match.

[@MichalZ78]

thanks Lex and Travis for talking about this !

[@raulmontano3310]

Just watched a 20 minute Olympic match and I still don't know how they score points in judo

[@davidmerz3978]

Cause of that their were some changes over the last years. What happened here was, that neither Bischof and Stevens got regular points or penalties. So after end of Golden Score the referees decided the winner by some aspects like how active the opponents fight or tried to get a regular point. They showed their decision by showing a blue or white flag (refearing to the colours of the suits). This was quit intraspereant for viewers and also not really objective. After the London Olympics the Golden Score got limitless, the winner is the opponent who got a regular point or whos opponent got the third penalty. The regular points are the Ippon (100 points) (perfect throw where the opponent is landing completly on his back, or after 20 seconds of keeping your opponent on his back with without interruption) and the Wazari (10 Points) (good but not perfect throw or keeping the opponent on his back for 10 seconds without interruption). Two Wazari get added to one Ippon (except a short time in 2017). Till shortly after London their existed also the Yoko (1 point) (a partly good throw or 10 seconds of holding the opponent on his back (till this you needed 20 seconds vor Wazari, 23 for Ippon). The Yuko wasnt able to get added to an Wazari. Today most situations you got a Yuko for you get a Wazari now. Instead of holding the opponent for the required time on his back you can strangle or leverage the opponent in ground fights till he gives up. Their is also the chance to win if the opponent gains penalties (Shido). The first two Shidos cant decide the end of the match. In the regular time also the third doesnt. In Golden Score getting the thir Shido means to lose. The fourth Shido means to lose by disqualifying. (Hansuko-make). You can get Hansuko-make directly by big rule violation.

[@VUKE_fn]

XD

[@tbean5990]

I got told that flying armbars are illegal in judo! Lol

[@raulmontano3310]

@@tbean5990 best way to solve that is to flying-arm-bar whoever told u that

[@rigo.acosta]

@@davidmerz3978 extremely complicated

[@Leopar525]

That German coach is the one we love !!! I see him with every supreme Judo athlete ! I still get goosebumps when I remember him saying “do it for your family!!!”

[@ottfighter]

This fight of Travis Stevens and Ole is one of the best I have ever seen! Thank you for this video! 💪🏼💯👏🏼👊🏼

[@MoneyOverFame]

watch kanamaru vs vitali makarov at the 2001 worlds, one of the most exciting matches I've ever seen

[@thatkindofguy234]

I wish they'd introduce like a 5-10 second ground rule, they don't even give them a chance to get into the newaza half the time

[@afhostie]

It's so quick that there's not a real disadvantage to giving up your back

[@thomass.4007]

Its good that they stop if there is no progress. The problem is that judges dont understand ground fighting and often stop promising situation

[@MrFreshfreddie]

Thomas S. Wrong.

[@MagickArmory]

Stephens being a Jiu-jitsu black belt would have destroyed this dude if that were the case . Judo has really screwed the overall art by being too stand up focused and having very stupid rules in that regard . And Jiu-jitsu is lacking now because of being too ground and sport focused. The JJGF is the only organization that I know of that is actually trying to preserve and combine the arts back to their original purpose and awesomeness.

[@internetenjoyer1044]

they've done that now, i believe you get like 20 seconds if you're showing progress.

[@SuperPepae]

The bandaged makes the game more cooler :D

[@stevethea5250]

WHT BANDAGE?

[@aceqbaceq777]

like street fighter on nes

[@robk5745]

Wow insane, Travis is a legend

[@dululgun]

12년전 이 경기를 라이브로 봤고, 그때 전 트래비스 스티븐스의 팬이 되었습니다. 오랜만에 보러 왔습니다.

[@thedoobiesistersandsackbla5718]

when sportsmanship goes..... so do i. brave gallant men. awesome.

[@PeterTeal77]

Imagine if they had actual commentary. The Olympics could be respectable one day...

[@thlee3]

fast fwd to 26:40 to see first point scored in over 20 minutes of judo

[@ruggeddrelouris3597]

stevens throw a nice elbow

[@marialevkovytska3606]

Judo is life,life is judo

[@tarasshevchenko2657]

u still do judo ?

[@jiujitsuboy]

Stopping it so quick on the floor

[@user-md2fm7ik2z]

Nobody wants to watch 1+ minute of nothing happening or someone trying to ride a position to a better one for 5+ mins. Judo is designed to be exciting and dynamic

[@RIPKobe-yc8gd]

If that was the casezthey would never throw out leg grabs

[@dimadoctor]

To my opinion it was Travis Stevens who deserved to win....

[@JudoImPott]

Why?

[@themegagrg]

Judo-im-Pott [de] Because he was the one pushing the action and attacking the whole time

[@nestcanz]

5:20 The staredown battle

[@tsiraobiang.8878]

Everytime i look at that kind of fight, that always pushes me to go back. It's excitintg!

[@Terminatortx33]

Travis won - even the crowd knew he won. Poor bloke was robbed that day. True warrior.

[@The_Scouts_Code]

rubbish. That was a tie.

[@christianmichaels6834]

@@The_Scouts_Code Definitely wasn't. Travis attacked way more, and was screwed. The German was favored heavily.

[@davidrosales2081]

@@christianmichaels6834 he attacked way more, and way more ineffectively. Judo is about efficiency.

[@christianmichaels6834]

@@davidrosales2081 The German didn't do anything to even remotely put Travis in danger. I'm no Travis fan, but he was definitely robbed. The German borderline stalled the whole time.

[@alexstephens4625]

if you had ever actually participated in any sport like judo you would know that the officials are always very careful about any blood on a fighter or the mat.

[@hyattmooreiv441]

I suppose mma is not a sport like judo :) Totally agree with you though. In wrestling, I think you get unlimited blood time now.

[@kaxx000]

in 26:50 you see Korea throws Russia over his shoulders. In Judo, you want to throw your opponent and depending on how "Good" the flip is you can either get points or just end the match with a "perfect throw"

[@katyamato1347]

Ole elbows into Stevens left forehead. 11:06. Look his bloody face.

[@user-jh3kz7dp2z]

no he was already bleeding

[@JudoImPott]

Bischof is turning around with his arm and elbow on his own chest, which is a common defend in ground fight.

[@Michael-ki5oz]

@@JudoImPott Yeah he was just trying to turn around and Stevens bends forward right after. When I watched at 0.25x it looks like Stevens forehead fell onto Bischof's tricep.

[@blim1370]

Fighting with frustration never works

[@Haolekine888]

during the regulation time; I don't know if i've ever seen a referee give less time in newaza.

[@JudoImPott]

It was normal at that time. It saddens me, too.

[@parafraceren]

@@emperorjimmu9941 It's a shame how they're changing the sport because they think audiences only want to see throws and tachi waza

[@dalhousie44]

That would be amazing to watch. Marcello Garcia all day!

[@PeterJames143]

wrong sport... but it looked like some training time with marcelo would have helped stevens out in one or two spots.

[@MsAmyyLouisee]

Feel sorry for Stevens here tbh, great fight though

[@梨馅肉包子]

26:45 before this moment, i thought they get a point by kill the opponent

[@nicenice3459]

Ole elbows into Stevens left forehead. 11:06. Look his bloody face.

[@doug4974]

So this was Darkman's true origin story

[@Graemesbullys]

Sumi Gaeshi that Stevens threw was the closest score of the match. I had him taking the win

[@oxxxymoronoxxxymoron8549]

27:32 what was that?

[@saktimaankafan9053]

Love 💕 from india jharkhand jamshedpur jugsalai

[@EulianDax]

coach was constantly saying FINISH HIM xD

[@Jackson-ox6vf]

Stevens got robbed, Bischof should have got a shido near the end of regular time and in golden score.

[@SKEditinq]

yep he stepped out

[@jiujitsuboy]

Stevens was the only one attacking really, robbery

[@JudoImPott]

We can not see the movement of the feet in the footage. Also the referees were consistent letting this and the other final block fights continue when one of the opponents stepped out. By the way i counted 2 possible shido for both. Let a alone the actions against the spirit of judo (maybe) both of them displayed.

[@thlee3]

i cant believe medal rounds can end this way ... it should go until at least a point is scored.

[@eliamagri7413]

Now its like this

[@minajadeamo]

El judo ha bajado con el tiempo elegancia y técnica entre los competidores,parece un combate de fuerza,no veo ejecución,sólo tirando el mas fuerte,años atras se notaba el estilo diferente

[@QubitVector]

Man there's NO CRYING IN JUDO

[@PAARYNASOSE-om7is]

NICE TO WATCH IT

[@ДмитрийФролов-к2г]

dirty fight. german a fighter. american a hero for poster

[@mrscargamex4355]

Wow Pro Judo I Love This

[@artygunnar]

look at those abs...

[@stevethea5250]

WHEN

[@Sk1tz092]

WHERE

[@justiceprovider9822]

HOW

[@astrosherlock374]

WHY

[@raugusto395]

Thank You!!!

[@tylerlee2251]

5:23

[@台灣海軍陸戰隊]

is this mma? hahah

[@steven1739]

A little bit of blood and they wrap him up like he just finished fighting John Wick

[@bernardotorres4659]

The German did deserve to win because he was more on the offensive and on several occasions he attempted some very clear eri sei onages , full in depth attacks , which the American did not attempt so clearly

[@charlesissleepy]

yeah the two side judges had no idea what to vote until middle judge showed them

[@JustSomeGuy69420]

Literally watched my BJJ teacher ( a brown belt at the time) have a match with another brown belt at a national level competition, and they both just stared at each other for the whole match until the end when one of them shot for a single leg in the most non-committal way possible. The guy was a wrestling coach at one point too. Dude traveled to Las Vegas for that milquetoast nonsense. Gotta say I prefer the Judo/Wrestling pace.

[@Bozothcow]

The way the mic rubbed when they first grabbed each other I thought they had mics on them for some reason haha!

[@leomasara585]

5:20 なかなか柔道では見られない光景だよね。

[@fnotlive5322]

That was a good match

[@apathy11303]

The whole time watching this, I just wanted to shoot in for a single leg. lol

[@internetenjoyer1044]

An unfortunate rule change to get rid of leg attacks. It should be noted that they're not as powerful in clothed grappling as they are in wrestling because you can control the opponent from much further away when you can use you hands to grab them rather than having to get your arms around them.

[@CrazeeFy]

@@internetenjoyer1044 yeah , in the GI single legs and double legs are less effective . But you can mitigate it by being good at removing your opponent grips

[@internetenjoyer1044]

@@CrazeeFy Yeah you can mitigate it, but the gi still changes the whole game. Tbh, the fundamental difference between grappling arts is whether you can hold their clothes or whether your grips needs to be around them fully. Anything else is merely a ruleset

[@aamake547]

Do you leave comments on boxing videos talking about "The whole time I watch this I kept thinking about leg kicks"? Seems like your thing.

[@apathy11303]

@aamake547 You're an idiot... Singles aren't illegal in Judo. At around 3:30 there was actually an attempt. He transitioned from a trip to a fireman carry to a single attempt. Yes they all failed, but it was attempted. Your comparing my one statement to a boxer doing illegal moves is just stupid. I understand you're a keyboard warrior though so I hope you have a great day.

[@tylerhill9483]

He going to look like a mummy before the fight is over, lol

[@nicolacolombo6928]

Epic moment in 5:26

[@artemaso]

Travis has a sad face, I just want to hug him, might just go up north to Tacoma and do that. hahaha.

[@MountainDrum537]

Commentators are asleep

[@christianjuggler555]

Here because lex too... And yes travis stevens won

[@coldstiil]

its not IN the eye, carry on!!!!

[@smartboy7387]

I did not know u can win a game with blind your opponents eye in judo. New Techniques

[@HeyKevinYT]

Dat thumbnail tho

[@stevengargoyle]

I can't believe what the hell I see here... Travis was the guy who was fighting more aggressive and the german made a lot SHIDO!!! Where the HELL was the brain of the referee's. I can't believe this! By the way... STEVENS TRAVIS WON THE FIGHT; YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, HE WON THE FIGHT!!!

[@joseif16]

not sure what your talking about Ole Bischof owned him from he start. it was a good call.

[@exocet8834]

Yet Bischof won a gold and silver medal at the Olympics ;)

[@ThepDenNgoaiBien]

Spychological..Yes German you make me can't see then..You have a better chance to attack me..( That all he wants to say...shake his head +++ ) you know!

[@JudoImPott]

I counted 2 shidos both and 3 vs 4 real attacks for Stevens at the end of regular time. As Ref i had called 2 vs. 1 Kinsa for Bischof at the end of regular time (throwing actions leading to the ground). The best kinsa was made by Bischof in the early time of the contest (ashi-waza), followed by a uchi-mata attempt. Stevens did a good sumi-gaeshi attack. Stevens uchi-mata attempt i would not call a Kinsa because of rule violation. In golden score Bischof and Stevens made both attemps (3 vs. 3), which were not succesfull in any way. The last two seoi-nage-attacks of Bischof maybe got counted , too. Stevens was more active at the beginning of the golden score period (one Koshi-guruma attempt which almost got countered, one weak sumi-gaeshi attempt and one weaker o-uchi-gari attempt which did not even got to the floor). Bischof did one seoi-nage attempt in the beginning of golden score which was almost that weak like Stevens O-uchi-gari before and in the following he had to catch up in the last two minutes. Almost one minute before the end of golden score period he did the two seoi-nage attemps. You can hear his coach Detlef Ultsch shouting in for the last one because he counted the attempts of both athletes and knew Bischof would get it then. In conclusion the referees decision is close, but okay. Also my count of shido does not include the actions against the spirit of judo, which would be hansokumake, of course. We can discuss if the cuts of Stevens were done by Bischof on purpose, which i dont belive but is a common american perspective. This violation of course, we can not see in the footage for sure, so we can not prove it and cant give hansokumake. But what we can clearly see is Stevens grabbing Bischofs fingers pulling in uchi-mata and after this throwing his elbow into Bischofs face. This makes me think, the elbow was thrown on purpose, what would be of course penalised with hansokumake, too. Bischofs reaction was not very judoka-like but somehow understandable. Both fighters apologised and the referees let the fight continue, so we could see some judo.

[@ktkt1825]

@@JudoImPott Very good accounting of the match!

[@kenchi08]

Because of this, the rules have changed.

[@TheHandicapSnip]

under the new rules the german would have got a passivity shido in the last 90secs at least poor travis was robbed

[@meistereder6382]

+RightjudgeIam Under new rules he would most probably also have acted in another way.

[@HC-jd4rc]

worst logic I've ever seen in my life

[@therac197]

@@HC-jd4rc Not really. Did you even do judo, in tournaments ?

[@Michael-xp5mw]

I would of given it to Stevens.

[@darrenshevathio1004]

Ole bischof looks like 007 agent

[@fauzimazzouz3549]

Bischof very tactical

[@banaani-ec3nv]

NICE TO WATTH IT

[@Tobias_L_HD]

Why were all people crying in 5:19?

[@URKOVAI97]

Stevens grabbed bischof's fingers

[@yeahnah7220]

The real winner was the korean coach with the catch of the belt.

[@pawanchoudhary1696]

plz update Rio Olympic judo final fight 66kg

[@mbahbecak3668]

The thumbnail

[@joeoconnell3544]

Travis was robbed. Heartbreaking for him

[@user-md2fm7ik2z]

Not at all.

[@engnoun]

How did steven lose? How did Ole win? I didn't see anyone score here.

[@wiseguy9225]

jury decided he performed better during the fight

[@christianmichaels6834]

They favored Ole unfairly.

[@olanrewajuihenacho178]

I still prefer the drama of the flags to golden score

[@marcellosiqueira9178]

WHY THE AMERICAN GUY DIDN'T WIN???? He atacked more and was in disavantage because of his eye injured!!!

[@JD-ww2ri]

Bischoff must lost for passivity.

[@slaffkas]

Political corruption.

[@Quidoute]

that korean guy really lives Drop soe nage

[@longchu8080]

Very confusing thumbnail

[@edival.magal69]

WT is that??? 5:26

[@alexeyepifanov2684]

Trevis was supposed to win this fight, he was way better his opponent. Poor ex-rules

[@JudoImPott]

Can you tell why he was better?

[@moipan7088]

Can someone please enlighten me, in Judo fight, are you not allowed to fix your kimono specially when its already not in place? I mean in taekwondo they can fix if their sheen guards or head gear fall off even in the middle of the fight but in judo I noticed the fight continues

[@ottpsfj]

from my observation, sometimes judge tell the players to fix their gi. Sometimes the player can force it, so after the "mate" call the player can quickly fix their gi, but usually a "hajime" to start the fight is being called. They have to fix the gi before they leave the mat, when the score is being announced.

[@davidrosales2081]

You're supposed to wait for the referee to tell you to do it. I think it's supposed to reinforce the absolute authority of the referee.

[@kingstrap8159]

Would not have happened in Hollywood!

[@maliquewilliams86]

We all know travis won that

[@davidpeisakhov7045]

The usa fighter used a good ushimata

[@stoso9864]

Judo needs to incorporate BJJ ground work to be a more complete art

[@antonkup]

Американец жутко нежный, переживает из-за любой царапины

[@slaffkas]

Да просто кто-то ногти не состриг. Это как в футболе - игрок лежит для привлечения внимания судьи.

[@Oldhandlewasabitcringe]

So you can drop someone, sit on their back holding them down, and it doesnt count as a single point?

[@ETiDeQuenVesSendo]

no

[@slaffkas]

Successful throw must be on the back - that is a win - ippon. Less successfull - on the side - wazaari (10 points) 2 wazaaris = 1 ippon - win. Pin of 10 seconds - wazaari, 20 seconds - ippon. Wazaari throw +10 seconds pin = ippon. Judokas do not think in points, but in wazaaris and ippons

[@wrx5167]

they almost killed each other and no point

[@callalilies07]

how do you score in judo match? i just starting to watch the sport. i like it.

[@fbi8751]

callalilies07 you should start doing it

[@psicologoexplica-psicocosas]

The opponent should touch the floor with his back when you throw him, basically.

[@wally139]

@@psicologoexplica-psicocosas Imagine he's still watching after 9 years

[@andrewnicholas4951]

These commenters did not raise issue as to wether yank cud c out of it or if he was visually restricted duh that fixer I reckon was outa his depth he needed a gud cuts man

[@FelipeCavalcanteBJJ]

Travis won

[@Leverquin]

why reginald de windt has olympic flag?

[@husoyuz3106]

Stevens is the winner, refree is blower,,

[@brennangrant1060]

When he elbowed the German I was like uh oh WW3 starts in the olympics

[@evanrutherfordlazyahole9079]

Yay judo

[@kronoterria2347]

the German must be a rammstein fan lol.

[@sarsaparillasunset3873]

How is this compared to wing Chun?

[@tuguldurotgondorj6542]

travis was way more active and he deserved to win

[@toocoolotool218]

I love Germany and it's people but the German wrestler here just looks like the bad guy in a movie.

[@jdog6200]

The German guy had no class in how he got in the face of Travis.

[@peraspera1302]

It's instinct to react like that after getting a painful elbow. The fact that he recovered and offered his hand to shake shows great sportsmanship.

[@VegaMain]

How do you get points? I’m nearly ten min in and no one has points yet.

[@amaliakuba9000]

It's simple, if you trow then you get points. An ippon it's the maximum score and there is also wazari. You can better search it up because I don't know if you understand something:))

[@VegaMain]

@@amaliakuba9000 just needed the basics of how they get points.

[@Shazard]

How are they grabbing legs?