Judo Worlds 2024 SEMI FINAL FRANCE vs GEORGIA Teams Event - Judo World Championships 世界選手権団体戦準決勝

Another massive battle between two judo giants. This was a close one!
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[@MisterHui]

I don't know man. Either the voices in my head are really into judo or the sound works.

[@barba5209]

8:08 in italy we call that the hungarian, cause ungvari was the first to do it. The choke is on if uke defends the turnover or if tori keeps pulling. Usually that kind of choke would be illegal but you can if you have the arm in there

[@7Alberto7]

I really do enjoy these video and team tournament in general,thank you! That turn over and chocke was awesome wow

[@aqiria]

Yeah Liparteliani is preparing for the Olympics, that's why she wasn't at the worlds. She's 2-2 against Mokdar, always very tough and close contests. Chikhelidze took silver this year at Paris GS.

[@freddy_zaubert]

The choke seems to be a Juji-jime. In Germany this approach / turnover is called "Marhenke Jime". Clerget does a variation where he tilts his opponent headwise. Normally, you roll under Uke sideways. Here you can see a variation without tilting / rolling with your opponent: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJrElJ2BirZ8a6ssi=7w30haaRbV5--arJ&t=36

[@JudoHighlights2015]

What’s with Germans having different names for everything?!

[@freddy_zaubert]

@@JudoHighlights2015 I think it's not much different to other countries. We have the same Japanese names for throws, holds, chokes and armbars. But, I think similar to Japan, in Ne-waza we use names for end positions. For example, "Juji gatame" is a name or an end position. "Rolling juji gatame" is one way or solition to bring Uke in the juji gatame (end) position. So the techniques (the way how you bring your opponent to the Tate-shiho, Gyaku-kesa-gatame, Juji-jime etc.) have sometimes the same name as the final position / choke principle / armlock principle, but often they are named by the judoka who is popular for this technique. In this case, Marhenke was popular for the diagonal lapel grip und the arm in Ne-waza, and I learned the "Marhenke choke" when I was young. If you just say "Kesa-gatame" nobody knows which turnover, not even the starting position, you mean. So there have to be names for the techniques as well :). I heard, in Japan, you do not differentiate between Ko-uchi-gari and Ko-uchi-barai - is that true?

[@tatavev9510]

The +90 from france is still junior

[@bjarneschmalbach1524]

I am not convinced by that turnover from Clerget. Looking at 8:03, there is no control of the far arm or either leg. The near side arm is included in the collar grip, so no immediate choke threat with the collar grip. He then steps over in a Canto-ish fashon, but again the arm is still inside... So I assume there is a decent amount of sankaku-type pressure from the combination of Clerget's leg as well as the choke arm looping under Babutsidze's arm, but I doubt it's really a workable choke if we only think about submission. He may have tapped to the osaekomi...

[@euanmorse]

"I'm not convinced by that turnover from Clerget." The one that just worked and won them the medal? That one?

[@bjarneschmalbach1524]

Yes, that is the one. But you are probably right, that every move that has ever won anything must surely work...

[@mfp5585]

The choke looks like a variation of kata te jime to me.

[@ryanwilliams9984]

Hey the turnover around 8:00 looks like a quarter nelson into a modified d'arce choke (basically an inverted kata gatame)

[@JudoHighlights2015]

Yeah I knew it was a Nelson but I was wondering if we have a name for that in judo

[@ryanwilliams9984]

I'm going to go with kata sankaku

[@dijks350]

Hi, there is no audio on this video

[@RautaMauri]

There certainly is audio, must be a problem on your end

[@JudoHighlights2015]

might have just been processing. It seems OK now?

[@baptistebrijnaert6480]

@@JudoHighlights2015 yes

[@dijks350]

@@JudoHighlights2015 Yes there is audio now

[@ryukyuteada2911]

Georgia has the strongest male players next to Japan, but it's a shame that their female players are weak...

[@3YangBros]

👍👍👍👍

[@mrmalayweather4850]

No +100kg?

[@ronen124]

En un evento por equipos, hasta donde yo sé, solo más de 90 kg es una categoría de peso máximo

[@shirwd]

france team composed from 'africans' is wild !!

[@MrArgulor1]

They're black and French, their parents can also be French or come from West and Central Africa. Some may even be from the French Antilles like Riner. The fact that you're from such a small place that you can"t fathom diversity is wilder.

[@shirwd]

@@MrArgulor1 You can't deny what i said, lets keep it clean, this is judo not a debate.

[@MrArgulor1]

@@shirwd of course I can, that’s a racist comment. All of them were born around Paris, what part of that makes them African? What I can also deny is that you’re saying that in good faith, but by saying they’re African, you’re saying that 1) France is cheating by recruiting judokas who aren’t French 2) that these people, however French they may be, will essentially be African, never French, which is a racist and essentialist implication, 3) you’re mixing up African and black, instead of actually having any idea where their family names are originally from. Where would Akiana Mongo be from, for example? Senegal? Mali? Ivory Coast? The Congos? And Hayme?

[@shirwd]

​@@MrArgulor1 1: france and some other countries does not acknowledge the benefits and the hard work non-native people bring and does, same applies in sports. 2 : racism and a lot of other problems still happen to non-native people, ignoring their rights and creating many problems on the way, and htat is done by the people you are defending. 3 : stealing from other countries and destroying them by corruption and wars their people are forced now to immigrate. the funny thing is the country that did all of that to them force them now to work and be useful yet not acknowledging or treat them properly at all or their families.

[@MrArgulor1]

@@shirwd I agree with all of that, however your comment mirrors a lot of some I've seen about how illegitimate French black athletes were, although they were born in France. You're not solving racism by taking away their agency. I sincerely agree that colonialism, imperialism and modern predatory behavior from French companies and institutions disenfranchised and keep disenfranchising POCs and people from past colonies, but calling black athletes "african" is a typically far-right discourse, notably in France, that aims at justifiying racist policies against POCs and immigrants, saying that they're replacing the "native" French population and justifying their erasure from public spaces.