Juggernaut AI App - 2 Year Review

I'm almost at 2 years to the day of starting the Juggernaut AI App guided programming. I think I've said most of what there is to say about the program, but wanted to check in and mark this milestone.
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[@markhalstead2386]

It was your videos 1 year ago that convinced me to give it a try. I had to take a lot of time off over the spring and summer, but am starting week 5 tomorrow as I am back on track. I hit new PRs on all three lifts during my first RPE10 week since restarting after several months. I highly recommend it.

[@BasementBrandon]

Great work!

[@markhalstead2386]

@@BasementBrandon Thanks.

[@NoFate247]

Love the longer reviews, I find they prove more accurate on how we feel about a purchase or program or anything, with the "new" factor has worn off

[@BasementBrandon]

Most def!

[@Eccles_basement_gym]

I just started it on Sunday. Love it so far. The one thing I wish in poweerbuilding adding some forearm exercises into the app, or the opportunity to add your own workout and track it.

[@01minicoopers]

I’ve been adding my own forearm exercises to the powerbuilding, I set it up to be an “Ab” exercise. But it lines up nicely as usually on my deadlift and squat days so it doesn’t mess up my deadlift grip.

[@BasementBrandon]

I'm sure you could just add it in outside the app if you have time, or find an exercise that trains forearms well and just put it in the notes of the exercise.

[@GlucksGym]

Two videos in a week?! Let's gooooo!

[@BasementBrandon]

Need to just get some of this stuff out of the way to focus on my true passion... makeup tutorials.

[@lockc5668]

Thanks to this review and the use of the app, I placed 2nd in a local USPA meet in my weight/age classes. Thank you

[@BasementBrandon]

Great job!

[@husseinkasim4474]

I love it. I’ve enjoyed it throughly and I’m making so much more progress at a lower body weight too which is great. 3 months in I believe and having a ton of fun and enjoying all my sessions. Appreciate your recommendation.

[@BasementBrandon]

So you're saying you found time to train between all the Nolan films?! 🤪

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

Recently purchased a juggernaut AI subscription for 50% off and I'm liking it so far on the powerbuilding setting 6x per week 70% powerlifting 30% bodybuilding, albeit I'm not even a month in yet. I've always done my own programming but it's very nice to have something do all the leg work for me and free up some mental capacity. If i remember I can edit this comment in coming months to document my own experience. But so far 2 thumbs up!

[@BasementBrandon]

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!

[@nKrandom]

How did you get the 50% off?

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

@@nKrandom there was a black Friday promo code, I believe it was "Big50" likely invalid now

[@twistedbarbell3950]

It has been a solid program for me as well! I did try the Powerbuilding side from May to about October and although it was cool, I too didn’t like the schedule. The extra accessory work wasn’t too bad, but I really disliked the uneven scheduled days of the week (I.e. 9 exercises on Tuesday and 4 or 5 on Monday). That made for an inconsistent training day/week, which ultimately led me back to Power Lifting. I’ve been on that style training since October and am MUCH happier with the AI now. Hopefully, this translates to some real gains at my competition in March.

[@BasementBrandon]

Awesome to hear. I have found that Day 1 on PL is always the longest/toughest and usually day 3 or 4 is more short and to the point.

[@yesblyat7234]

Just in time! Just began using Jugg AI and I'm currently in my Prep Phase. Really looking forward to the results and process.

[@JuggernautTrainingSystems]

Let’s gooo!

[@BasementBrandon]

Go get it!

[@NoMirr0r]

Found you on Massenomics and you’ve convinced me to give it a shot. Doubt I’ve ever hit my genetic peak, but after my all time bests it was so hard to even maintain and I felt like I was just going backwards. I think this is where a coach would come in to help with the complexity of kinda what your body needs. Harder ≠ better type thing. Might take some tricky shit to get my body past where it was. SO.. running the Barbell Medicine templates again.. getting that nooby strength back.. and in a few months.. hopefully I’m close to where I was.. and then I’m gonna try AI.

[@BasementBrandon]

Good luck my dude! Kick some ass!

[@JuggernautTrainingSystems]

Thank you Brandon!

[@BasementBrandon]

Appreciate the opportunity!

[@TheHorrorGeek]

Just finished my first block today. Impressed so far.

[@BasementBrandon]

Glad to hear!

[@babygiantbarbell1014]

Love hearing your feedback on this app, man. Chad also seems like an awesome guy in addition to of course being an awesome lifter.

[@BasementBrandon]

He's a good dude!

[@shawnmahoney4441]

I used the powerlifting program based on your suggestion for about 6 months and really liked it. Had to jump off as the price was high and my wife stopped working. I hope at some point to replicate the program or jump back on.

[@BasementBrandon]

Hope all is well at home

[@dangilormo4376]

Yeah Brandon! I've been using Juggernaut AI powerlifting for about 15 weeks. Really like it so far.

[@BasementBrandon]

Great to hear!

[@reggie7716]

The app is great, I've been using it for about 6 months now. I do wish you could divide the training days up into an upper/lower type split though. Hitting upper and lower body each session I can run out of energy before I get all the work in

[@BasementBrandon]

I find most powerlifting style programs work best when the programming is around actual movements, but could def see a case for that on the powerbuilding side!

[@joecowan3719]

I wonder if they have on their roadmap anything for lifting groups: a mini leaderboard for friends on the same training block, group discounts (I wouldn't mind paying one group license etc). That feature might be nice for people that train together even if they are remote from each other.

[@JuggernautTrainingSystems]

Some cool ideas there! A user meet database is something in the plans for sure

[@BasementBrandon]

Creative!

[@Morgan_]

sorry BB I stopped using your affiliate code to switch to big50.. couldn't pass it up. Thanks for all the videos though. I love the app

[@BasementBrandon]

No issues on my end!

[@nickc3365]

I tried juggernaut when it first came out years ago and just didnt like the programming. It was killing me both physically and mentally. I recently tried the sheiko gold app and have lots of experience doing the numbered sheets years ago. I am using the evolve AI app leading up to my contest next week. Overall the best app is by far sheiko. Both the layout, ease of use, tracking and flexibility. It drastically alters workouts both on the fly and from workout to workout based on how I am doing and performing. The main issue though is I just don't have the time to dedicate about 2hrs per workout. The amount of squats and bench is really hard on my previous shoulder and elbow injuries so I decided to swap out for evolve AI when it released. I'm not very happy with it all. I don't think I will be continuing after my contest. The logging and tracking is lacking. The individualization is really lacking. It's basically a template that just alters based on what if's.

[@BasementBrandon]

IIRC Sheiko is no longer part of the app.

[@nickc3365]

@@BasementBrandon it's been a while now. Don't think it matters. The programming ideology hasn't changed and in reality don't think sheiko had anything to do with the ai portion of the app from the begining. If I remember the timeline it seems like he bowed out after the power building option was introduced.

[@hyg71886]

Nice video I never heard of this but I'm going to try it out. I am going to wait until I get home though as my equipment at home allows me to do pretty much any exercise it could come up with. I'm excited to use it, sucks I missed the sale

[@BasementBrandon]

Yeah was hard to pass up for some as the biggest knock I've seen is the price!

[@JonOfstead]

The programming is great, but the price is just way too high. I bought in early when it had lots of flaws and typos, I wish it was move affordable. I think they could make it up in volume if they lowered the price to $19.99 or something like that. We are all getting sucked dry by subscriptions. Maybe $199 a year would even be better. Again, I do like the programming and used it for a year myself before deciding to go back to other apps.

[@BasementBrandon]

So I went to 1:1 coaching for a few months this year and it was $220/month.

[@joemacedo782]

Couldn't agree more, awesome program!

[@BasementBrandon]

The bro that came back!

[@TunnelVisionAthletic]

Interesting with the new Evole A.I with garret jumping ship!!!!

[@BasementBrandon]

Yeah tough situation.

[@chillagorilla]

I’d love to see a review of kabuki EDU and peak strength

[@BasementBrandon]

Haven't heard much about it.

[@xChrisSoaresx]

I reevaluate if the app is worth keeping about every 3 months and feel it's worth the money. It's alaoy cool that we can ask questions on the FB group and get an answer from the creators of it.

[@JuggernautTrainingSystems]

Thank you for your support and glad you appreciate the community value, we are very proud of that

[@BasementBrandon]

Def nice to see them fill in the blanks!

[@NoFate247]

Dude that shirt is HUGGIN the arms!

[@BasementBrandon]

You mean you don't do 1000 curls before filming every video?

[@user-qv5cw7xx9q]

Hi Brandon amazing review, I was convinced at first but now I am, where can I find a 50% discount code so I can get my membership 😎💪🏾

[@BasementBrandon]

Ah it was only during black friday ☹️

[@scooobyj8714]

Is the programming all powerlifting? I have had to slow down on powerlifting my knees can’t handle the intensity they could ten years ago!

[@BasementBrandon]

The main app here is powerlifting or powerbuilding (access to both). They also have a BJJ app and I believe are working on other versions.

[@AIK.1891]

Thanx for the video! Q: Would it be usefull/good for a non-comp? I'm not a powerlifter, just want and like to be strong, but pure PL to be honest isn't perhaps the most effective method to stay "athletic". But if you'd not care about perfecting angles and limit your ROM in order to compete better - but only focusing on strength --- would it then still be regarded as a good tool? Let's say you're in the military are figured out that the "so called strenght training" they do is bs, and instead understand that if you focusing on real strength training and enough cardio you'll be better off. Could this app be worth the while..? / friend of an military man.

[@BasementBrandon]

I don't think it would be as impactful. You could do powerbuilding, but the main goal of the app is to get your bench/squat/deadlift up.

[@JasonLeeno]

This still heavily focused on RPE? I was one of the early, public Beta testers and found that I would struggle with checking my ego, especially closer to the test/meet faze?

[@BasementBrandon]

Still a lot of it here. Honesty is the best policy, so if it's heavy or you're off, just have to make sure to log appropriately.

[@babneetdhillon2818]

I wish they let you put in a week off and reschedule you if you have a planned week off.

[@BasementBrandon]

Would be a nice update!

[@sairam71]

Assume you didn’t test the powerbuilding program?

[@BasementBrandon]

I tried giving it a go a few times (even before the app), it just doesn't line up with my personal preferences and goals.

[@HoundStuff]

Do you know if they share any info on the actual "AI" used in the app? I didn't see it described on the webpage. I'd like to know more about how that part works, behind the scenes. Thanks in advance!

[@BasementBrandon]

So it uses what's known as expert systems AI. Basically a bunch of knowledge/methodology (in this case from Garrett and the Evolve team) put into scenarios that will cater training to you based off your input.

[@HoundStuff]

@@BasementBrandon Thanks for the reply! I've been doing some AI related stuff for work (different industry) so it is pretty interesting to connect the dots on different use cases and the tools behind the scenes,

[@BasementBrandon]

@@HoundStuff I hear ya! We do a lot of AI/ML/DL at my work as well (tech company). This is obviously a lot more basic b/c of the niche and limiting funds 🤪

[@HoundStuff]

@@BasementBrandon Thanks again. It is interesting stuff for sure. I appreciate the insights, I did find some good videos from those folks once I knew who/what to look for and he discussed the inference engines and things a bit. Definitely different than the predictive maintenance projects, on electric utility hardware, that I have been involved with. 🍻

[@tannerconley44]

I missed that lifetime membership. Any idea how much that was? Just curious lol

[@BasementBrandon]

Sorry meant to say, 50% off for the lifetime of your membership. So would have been like $17/month as long as you used the app.

[@tannerconley44]

@@BasementBrandon no big deal I was just curious what kind of price tag they would put on that 😂

[@EricB03]

Just for a point of reference as I missed the BF sale how much was the lifetime 50% off??

[@BasementBrandon]

So I meant to say 50% off for the lifetime of when you use the app. Meaning it would be like $17/month.

[@j23larson]

Hi, when using the app how did you track your target your max goals in comparison to what you were doing week in week out.

[@BasementBrandon]

I'm not sure I understand your question, can you rephrase?

[@j23larson]

@BasementBrandon good morning, if in your upcoming meet you have a goal of xxx pounds for your squat, and your current 1 rep max from your last meet is below that goal, how were you able to track your progress towards that increase, in the app all workouts are based off existing 1 rep max numbers Thank you for responding

[@BasementBrandon]

Any time you have an RPE 10 set (every 4-5 weeks) the program will suggest an updated 1RM based off your performance. You also will do some heavier singles during the peaking phase (last few weeks of the program before testing) that will help dial it in.

[@makjak111]

Could you please review evolve ai. It's half as much and at a glance seems pretty close in quality

[@BasementBrandon]

Will see what I can do 😉

[@joethestoic]

Has Juggernaut AI added singles to the powerlifting program?

[@BasementBrandon]

It still doesn't have them much until the peaking phase but I mentioned this to Chad as something to consider and believe it's in the road map.

[@mplussant]

…appreciate it…thx…great channel…

[@BasementBrandon]

Thanks for taking a look!

[@reginaldchesterfield8110]

Your arms are looking super vascular.

[@BasementBrandon]

They like carbs.

[@mmjsfca]

It's still just way too expensive

[@BasementBrandon]

If comparing to static templates, yes. But when comparing to similar options, it's quite cheap IMO.

[@aronhegedus]

I've not had many coaches, but I've never paid more than £45 a month for 1-1 coaching. I don't really understand what 250$ a month, which is basically 10$ a day is supposed to get you. It kinda confuses me that so many people are willing and able to pay it. For the app, I can believe that it'd do an excellent job at programming, but surely it can't replace what a coach is meant to help with from time to time eg form, advice about lifestyle changes etc. And for me, 30$ a month or anything above 10$ a month feels bit too much for something above a cookie cutter template, but less than basic coaching? I'm clearly in the wrong here somehow if there's 10k+ users of the app, just my thoughts.

[@BasementBrandon]

In my experience the low end of cost for coaches usually comes with less attention to detail, reusing of templates to adapt to clients, and/or lack of experience/results. Not saying that's always the case, but for the time a good coach should invest into a lifter, £45 a month either tells me they're not doing enough or that they don't have a good business model.

[@reginaldchesterfield8110]

What are you doing for your bis lol?!!!

[@BasementBrandon]

Smaller shirts.

[@Dippedinblackink]

I heard the number one complaint is the volume and how it’s too much. Any truth to that?

[@BasementBrandon]

Volume will vary depending on where you are in the training, how many days a week you train, and your own MEV/MRV.

[@Dippedinblackink]

@@BasementBrandon I opted to go with EvolveAI which basically is the same thing. We’ll see how things go.