Jujutsu Kaisen vs Bleach - How To Write A Fight

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Jujutsu Kaisen and Bleach are some of the most popular and well regarded battle shonen, and in this video I wanted to compare and contrast both manga's fight scenes, not only to determine which is better but also to highlight both series' strength in the action department. ‪@R7dman‬ is with me to assist in the breakdown of Bleach's fights to get to the bottom of this question.
#jujutsukaisen #bleach

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@Rhenkei
@Rhenkei 5 ай бұрын
I think nice way to look at it is: Bleach characters aren’t human. Plain and simple, their fights, the combat, the emphasis on godliness is blatant and meant to resemble a battle of elegance something otherworldly. Jjk is down to Earth, its about humanity, breaking away from humanity and at times being alien, the fights are rough, its forceful, it has to be, they’re held down by their human limitations. I think also since Bleach is generally sword fights, its gonna become about the cleanliness/clearness of the strikes.
@KevinLopez-nw2hi
@KevinLopez-nw2hi 5 ай бұрын
I really wish their was a series that did both of these things were it’s both godly and gritty, both clean but rough both.
@AntiZubat
@AntiZubat 4 ай бұрын
@@KevinLopez-nw2hiKenpachi has a pretty rough fighting style
@lijahmoody
@lijahmoody 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I wish Bleach gave us just a couple of hand to hand fights lol. Would’ve been cool
@l11.a.person
@l11.a.person 3 ай бұрын
I think you’ve managed to explain it perfectly.
@spriggylotus4476
@spriggylotus4476 3 ай бұрын
@@lijahmoody Yoruichi and Resurrección Grimmjow fought hand-to-hand, a few other characters like the Mask Quincy too.
@RestlessGamblrr
@RestlessGamblrr 5 ай бұрын
bro casually dropped a short movie of a video😭
@raicoonOTG
@raicoonOTG 5 ай бұрын
sum light
@recognized_
@recognized_ 5 ай бұрын
Drop more vids bro
@franciscoalvar7183
@franciscoalvar7183 5 ай бұрын
One legend in front of another
@Glockimus
@Glockimus 5 ай бұрын
Real
@didist9065
@didist9065 5 ай бұрын
who makes your thumbnails restless?
@vonnstevens2502
@vonnstevens2502 5 ай бұрын
Anytime I see a bleach video, I immediately punch my screen harder than yuji’s black flash
@xebec995
@xebec995 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@anuragdas4605
@anuragdas4605 5 ай бұрын
*Tap
@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu
@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu 5 ай бұрын
Hahaha I took that as hating bleach....and was confused "his avatar is ichi....then I figured it out😂😂
@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu
@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu 5 ай бұрын
My screen is craked..I understand
@Froggyquack
@Froggyquack 5 ай бұрын
For me Bleach fights are more easy to read. Which can created your own fight Choreography in your head while reading it. It almost the you know how the character moved the way Kubo drawn those big shot and character pose.
@ianharrison5758
@ianharrison5758 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I see that in bleach as well. I really enjoy that aspect of it but I prefer geges style where he’s very in depth with it where you see the motion from panel to panel even though it can be a pain in the ass when he decides to leave his line art messy when blurring motion
@yahyawihamza4064
@yahyawihamza4064 5 ай бұрын
Fax bleach gaps
@manlikendu
@manlikendu 4 ай бұрын
Gaps is a big word​@@yahyawihamza4064
@s_purp
@s_purp 4 ай бұрын
@@yahyawihamza4064in no universe jjk clears
@m0ckyzo185
@m0ckyzo185 4 ай бұрын
Kubo is godlike when it comes to paneling and composition it creates a clarity that allows you to move at your own pace.
@pierceh4673
@pierceh4673 5 ай бұрын
I think one point I really disagree with Radman on in this video is the ease of reading each manga. I'd argue Kubo's paneling, formatting, and composition are the best in the industry and the focus on detailed poses and character designs, both rendered with pretty clean lines, lend Bleach to be a much easier read than JJK's crazy and sometimes intentionally messy art.
@TSG_Froak
@TSG_Froak 4 ай бұрын
as someone who has read both series i agree. i even have the physical jjk manga because it was difficult to understand each panel individually without getting close to my screen, i do like the messy art it has but i can be hard to see everything from time to time
@Willified
@Willified 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Gege's great at his own style but when it comes to clarity and panelling Kubo is nearly unmatched by anyone in the industry
@Justrmla
@Justrmla 3 ай бұрын
Honestly it’s easier for me to read gege’s drawings and I really love them
@thegamehelperz2746
@thegamehelperz2746 3 ай бұрын
jjk has amazing choregraphy fight not gonna lie but bleach is just Something else. the emotions and drawing during bleach fight are not only god tiers but the lack of deep choregraphy is made so we can picture ourself how the fight is whereas in jjk we dont have that luxiry, the choregraphy is so detailed that theres no room for us to imagine it.
@nikjovan4816
@nikjovan4816 5 ай бұрын
JJK's pacing is a blessing and a curse. On one hand the fast pace keeps your adrenaline high, but imagine how much more character work, development and connection Gege could achieve if JJK was even 50 chapters longer than what it probably will be. I don't know if it's Gege's decision or maybe now it's just a fast car and he doesn't want to hit the brakes, but I would want him to just take a breather sometimes and explore a character more. I want to know more about Yuki her life abroad and her relationship with Todo. I want to see young Toji's life, his relationship with Megumi's mom, and more nuance to the Zenin clan. Also instead of Toji killing himself immediately after seeing Megumi he would talk to him. I understand the pragmatic reason why Toji killed himself immediately, but Gege writes the rules of how that works. I want that Sukuna flashback too see what experiences formed him into what he is. Hopefully we may still get that. If JJK did those things then it would take a manga I already love to new heights and undoubted S+ tier.
@melkormorgothbauglir.4848
@melkormorgothbauglir.4848 5 ай бұрын
Sadly Gege just wants to get to his idol manga he doesn't give that much of f*ck about JJK really maybe he'll finish the story later which is a crazy thing to say.
@indigo4740
@indigo4740 5 ай бұрын
Gege has stated that he wanted to speed run JJK. I think around Maki's killing spree
@inksinkanimates8921
@inksinkanimates8921 5 ай бұрын
@@indigo4740 It's because he has other things he wants to do right? If so then yeah, i don't blame em
@LuciferArc1
@LuciferArc1 5 ай бұрын
I think sukuna is a mirror of aizen on purpose. Their mystery and severity gives their impact. It's you wanting to know more that makes them cooler. I think if you explore sukuna or aizen more, it would take away from that crucial element. Characters like them aren't really meant to be explored as sometimes a villain is just that way. Sukuna is implied to have always been evil from the jump. Consumed his twin in the womb
@nikjovan4816
@nikjovan4816 5 ай бұрын
@@LuciferArc1 I agree. I actually like that Aizen is such a mystery and I want Kubo to keep it that way. But I don't even want a super expansive backstory for Sukuna. Maybe a chapter or two. Gege can keep the mystery aspect strong. I like that.
@Xemnas283
@Xemnas283 5 ай бұрын
What I like most about JJK fights is how MUCH the enviornments are utilized. With every fight you see characters interacting with objects around them to fight and maneuver around which makes fights more immersive
@TheGodofLightning
@TheGodofLightning 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, just like Sakamoto Days.
@Xemnas283
@Xemnas283 5 ай бұрын
@@TheGodofLightning JoJo’s too is a great example. It can get ridiculous at times but I like how Araki makes the characters utilize their surroundings
@normal6483
@normal6483 5 ай бұрын
This is definitely a major difference between JJK and Bleach. JJK's blocking means that you always know where everyone is at every moment, while in Bleach Kubo often forgoes drawing the backgrounds at all.
@anuragdas4605
@anuragdas4605 5 ай бұрын
​@@Xemnas283 I really love Jojo's fight (I am a Jojo fan, watch 1-6 parts) but, when it comes to using surrounding things, Sakamoto Days do best, you should read this manga, it's wholesome/action story
@no3ironman11100
@no3ironman11100 5 ай бұрын
@@normal6483 Yeah in jjk I often am looking at a page and I look in the background and I see where they are and which part of that place they moved to, sometimes with surprising detail in the background.
@donsauyce9156
@donsauyce9156 5 ай бұрын
I recently read Kyoraku vs Stark, and I noticed that while it didn’t feel super fast or anything and the choreography wasn’t in the weeds, the attacks and art felt striking and intrigued, bringing me in. It wasn’t a scrap but more like a spectacle. I even kinda noticed that when I watched a cut up version of Kenpachi vs Nnoitora. The attacks weren’t super complicated or in depth, but I was still drawn in by the characters and there presence I would say. To describe the difference, I’d say JJK fights are the flow of the battle and the story all those parts represent, while with bleach, each panel and strike is like a beat in the story
@Honest_Mids_Masher
@Honest_Mids_Masher 5 ай бұрын
The only issue is that it didn't look impressive to the point where people downplay how well the top 3 were doing I mean think about it Starrk fought 4 Captains 2 trained by Yamamoto and 2 Vizord Captains which is an extremely powerful boost and is more than what Ulqiora has done and yet people downplay Starrk for not making insanely big explosions or anything like that.
@kelvinallen9327
@kelvinallen9327 5 ай бұрын
Stark vs Kyoraku is one of my favourite Bleach fight of all time. It had everything 👍
@dennymanarus9742
@dennymanarus9742 4 ай бұрын
each panel is a still frame fr
@nameless_moon
@nameless_moon 3 ай бұрын
​@@Honest_Mids_MasherThe anime also didnt help at all. Barragan have more of a bossfight aura than Starkk. Maybe because the strength gap between the combatants arent too big, and most of the combatants including Kyoraku and Starrk are chill af.
@Honest_Mids_Masher
@Honest_Mids_Masher 3 ай бұрын
@@nameless_moon Yeah Kubo stated that a lot of the fights were rushed like with the Ulqiora vs Ichigo fight
@NinthShinigami
@NinthShinigami 5 ай бұрын
Bleach’s fights are another one of the several thousand reasons it’s my favorite animanga. I love the abilities so much as well as how they tie and incorporate into the characters thoughtfully and thematically. The fights don’t only boast beautiful art but even have so much poetic-ness to them. Ichigo becoming hollow to defeat the hollow Ulquiorra, Ichigo, a technical creation of Aizen, a part of his plan only to be the thing to foil his grand plan, the two Shinigami agents, one left in the dust, the other brought back to his feet by the same Shinigami as well as their connection to him, Kenpachi and his limits, breaking thru them each time, Komamura and distaste for vengeance only to fall to vengeance, and I can go on. This was a great idea for a video man 🔥
@VET.INSTINCT
@VET.INSTINCT 5 ай бұрын
Unohanas ideologies, comparing and parreling to kenpschis Aizem wanting to be understood and defeated, while also not diluting his character Also being a major plot point in taking down ywach the actual ending villain who also makes sense Still keeping both of there strength while not diluting either Making ywatvh stronger but aizen still broken with how his hypnosis works 😭 Kubo is a FUCKING GOAT
@kuma1062
@kuma1062 5 ай бұрын
A JJK and Bleach collab video? Yes, I will be tapping in.
@tariqblilet8660
@tariqblilet8660 5 ай бұрын
Bleach is like watching Star Wars or Samurai films, JJK is like watching John Wick
@datboimazz
@datboimazz 5 ай бұрын
Yoooooo you cooked Brodie💪🏾🔥
@Dirtymutiehater
@Dirtymutiehater 5 ай бұрын
Mmmm
@mishka1313
@mishka1313 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, cause starwars fucking sucked. LMAO
@faustoalmeida6464
@faustoalmeida6464 5 ай бұрын
I agree with everything except one thing, I think bleach´s power system has just the right amount of complexity, kubo doesn´t give much away but that´s the beauty of it, you have to decipher things by yourself, and that aspect makes it enigmatic, certain powers and power-ups in bleach are very elaborate and the lore is so vast it makes it a wonderful experience to read. I don´t agree that the power system isn´t complex, the baseline of their powers might not be extremely complicated, but each character has a unique and puzzling specific power, that fact alone, for me, prompts the power system to be one of the best I have ever seen in animanga.
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad 4 ай бұрын
I think it is a personal taste thing. I like that JJK goes out of it's way to explain more of the power system. It also is enigmatic in its own ways as cursed energy is never stated to, but clearly shown to reward sorcerers who understand and embrace their own nature. This we see numerous instances of characters figuring things out and having breakthroughs as they come to better understand themselves, and see the mindset of the most talented sorcerers in the world who are self-absorbed monsters. In turn this ties into Yuji's own development and how he is finding his own path that isn't a total embrace of monstrosity.
@MichaelisBLee
@MichaelisBLee 4 ай бұрын
@@faustoalmeida6464 For this same reason, Bleach has one of my favourite power systems. It's just so much more flexible for a battle shonen to develop its characters through battle. If your power is literally determined by one's own resolve, emotions, mentality and personality, the battles are just so much more interesting to watch as they develop. Shinigami train via understanding themselves through their zanpakuto and strengthening their relationship with it, thereby strengthening your relationship with yourself. The blade is me. Hollows evolve via asserting their dominance over others until they reach their pinnacle of peace. In Hueco Mundo, it's a dog eat dog world where one must always be able to justify its own existence, its ego, over another fellow hollow's existence. Quincies are based on human philosophers and scientists, focusing on the philosophy of "we kill god through knowledge". Their power comes the knowledge of developing new techniques and their fearlessness in encroaching on the natural order of the world, such as outright removing souls from the balance or even outright following the anti-Christ (Ywach being a dark version of Jesus). I will always say this, but Bleach cannot be looked at under a normal shonen lens, because its power system will always be reduced to "power levels" and factors from other shonen anime that do not apply to Bleach.
@tenkuken7168
@tenkuken7168 4 ай бұрын
They only got hax when they go to hueco mundo like aizens bankai is just broken af and kenpachi shikai can cut any hacks
@usmansubhani7482
@usmansubhani7482 2 ай бұрын
I guess it depends on your taste. Gege made a system that’s easier to grasp with no mystery elements. Even the symbolism is used more like a tool than something that acts independently. Bleach’s power system has moving parts outside the characters. Like how Zanpakuto abilities aren’t chosen by their user. Sometimes it’s pure luck that someone survives with both Hollow and Spiritual Energy of a Shinigami. It allows for situations that a more thematically impactful rather than seeing the character’s skill.
@ucheajulu1276
@ucheajulu1276 5 ай бұрын
Ok this may sound stupid. But the reason I prefer Bleach fights, BC fights Naruto fights etc. Is because I can read and tell what is going on with them completely. I can avsorb the art without having to spend years trying to decipher what is happening. Call it a skill issue but for me its just hard to see
@Honest_Mids_Masher
@Honest_Mids_Masher 5 ай бұрын
Nah that's actually fair to a certain extent it is the Mangakas job to make sure as many people are able to understand what's going on as possible.
@karthiks6115
@karthiks6115 5 ай бұрын
Lack of reading comprehension is not a flex my guy😂😂
@Valoremotivation
@Valoremotivation 5 ай бұрын
That's great
@xcxmafai
@xcxmafai 5 ай бұрын
You not wrong I feel like the few times jjk did the is only with there main big fights like gojo vs sukuna or yuji vs a main villain but that’s it
@atpr3241
@atpr3241 5 ай бұрын
Ngl might be a skill issue cuz I generally follow fights pretty easy BUT Gege sometimes LOVES to get experimental at the expense of making a simple scene too technical. An example is something like Maki vs Sukuna where Maki slams against a wall knocking Sukuna back and the transfer of energy is portrayed through the outlet of the wall between the two of them. The paneling is verital and meant to be seemless but Gege often mixes up his paneling, so people don't always know what to look for. The manga is full of this stuff. I can follow most of it but other times, Gege's basically like "You're smart. Figure it out lolz".
@Grayson-Winchester
@Grayson-Winchester 5 ай бұрын
What good fights need are a good build up. The characters and their conflict get introduced earlier on to make the audience anticipated. It also needs a good reason for the characters to fight besides being a shonen series. Hisoka vs Chrollo is a prime example here
@SparePencils
@SparePencils 5 ай бұрын
Hisoka vs Gotoh. Really cool fight that happens out of two characters just crossing paths, and then a reminder of how much of a monster Hisoka actually is.
@crocoboi7936
@crocoboi7936 5 ай бұрын
A series famous for fight build up is one piece
@stopmotionmangemantproduct1111
@stopmotionmangemantproduct1111 4 ай бұрын
​@@crocoboi7936 ehhh kinda
@Willified
@Willified 3 ай бұрын
​@@stopmotionmangemantproduct1111Not kinda, DEFINITELY. Although smaller fights usually have very minimal buildup, major ones are built up across whole arcs (or sometimes multiple) to the point you absolutely cannot wait for it to happen
@SPLiT3y
@SPLiT3y 5 ай бұрын
cant lie adding a narrator to most shows would enhance the depth of certain fights for sure, that point you brought up with naruto is a really good example. Imagine if during the madara v shinobi alliance fight we got a narrator explaining whats going on similar to gojo v the 1000 curses. maybe not the same mood but the same idea, to really grasp how dire and dramatic that part of the series was for not just madara but the people assisting the alliance.
@perspective7131
@perspective7131 3 ай бұрын
the jumpkaisen specialist and the kubology professor at it with a goated collab, well done
@JB-ol3xo
@JB-ol3xo 5 ай бұрын
Kubo gets iconography in a way that some of the very best American comic artists do. Many of his fight panels look like the big full page spalsh images in something like a big DC crossover event. They feel like they're just about to burst off the page. At times the A to B minutiae of the action, that sense of flow you'd find in a JJK fight might get lost, but what you get in exchange is this relentless sense of just cool shit happening all the time.
@TomoeMizuno
@TomoeMizuno 5 ай бұрын
When being a writer, you can't please everyone, so don't try to. Tell YOUR story. And that's what Gege and Kubo do
@kelvinallen9327
@kelvinallen9327 5 ай бұрын
I like sword fights, but i prefer hand to hand. I wanted to see more hands in bleach. Characters like Grimjow & Yourichi love the ""hands"" 🤩.
@whit3dant3
@whit3dant3 5 ай бұрын
If anything I wish there was no more sword play in bleach. We only get such if Kenny, byakuya or ichigo are fighting
@Xemnas283
@Xemnas283 5 ай бұрын
Yeah honestly idc much about Bleach fights when they’re just clashing swords. The abilities are cool but there’s no standout choreography in the fights
@whit3dant3
@whit3dant3 5 ай бұрын
@@Xemnas283 you really don't care about the sword clashing?
@kelvinallen9327
@kelvinallen9327 5 ай бұрын
@@Xemnas283 Honestly speaking, they dont just clash swords. For everyone has unique skills, abilities, & tactics. Bleach has lots of diversity, & i prefer fights that has a little bit of everything (kido, hand to hand, sword fight, tactics, & some spiritual pressure flexing), the latter is so hyped, i love it 🤩
@tenkuken7168
@tenkuken7168 4 ай бұрын
​@@whit3dant3not all character in bleach uses their sword to swing like they use kido spells too and their shikai all look different and bankai always is like bigger like renji has a big snake
@cillacam3931
@cillacam3931 5 ай бұрын
Kubos fights seem to focus on moments in the fights and epicness but geges feel like theres more focus on the fight in and of itself and not the individual moments/characters in the fight
@atpr3241
@atpr3241 5 ай бұрын
Art: Bleach Paneling: JJK Emotion: Bleach Choreography: JJK Pacing: JJK Conclusion: Bleach If I'm asked to rewatch whole fights, I'd choose JJK. If I'm asked to rewatch highlights, I'd rewatch Bleach. Both series have good methods for how they tackle fights
@donttalktome9217
@donttalktome9217 5 ай бұрын
Lol no way you say this
@Mrbeastlyswag1
@Mrbeastlyswag1 5 ай бұрын
Conclusion going to bleach is hilarious 😭😭😭
@atpr3241
@atpr3241 5 ай бұрын
@@Mrbeastlyswag1 how so? Compare all of Ichigo's early fights in the first 200 chapters. Ichigo vs Ikkaku, Renji, Kenpachi, and Byakuya all have strong conclusions. Can we even name more than 2 Yuji fights with satisfying conclusions?
@kuchnia846
@kuchnia846 5 ай бұрын
Paneling Goes to Bleach, ans if you ask me, I would rewatch every fight in bleach more likely than jjk ones simply because bleach has way higher peaks and Kubo threats characters with more respect and love than Gege As a jjk fan I dont know what tf gege is doing with his story and power system and i think that gege himself dont know what he's doing, when Kubo planned bleach way better than everybody else planned their series, even if I didn't like some fights, I enjoy them more than that long ass battle going on currently in manga with Sukuna. This battle going to be stretched out like a Naruto War arc
@H2Ocup
@H2Ocup 5 ай бұрын
​@@atpr3241Well, no, because jjk is just that type of story. Yuji was just another regular sorcerer before the current arc, and they weren't gonna win everything. That doesn't mean the fights were bad tho. If you want fights, there's plenty.
@princecheck11
@princecheck11 5 ай бұрын
I honestly think if Bleach came out pass 2012 then the fights would be more refined back in the early animation days anime companies dgaf that much ; Just from watching The Tybw i genuinely think bleach would be regarded as a top 3-5 fighting series
@acetofresh1
@acetofresh1 5 ай бұрын
One of the strangest gripes I’ve heard with JJK ( something I think fans are kind of obsessed with trying to diminish because it’s popular ) is it’s fights. People seem to think fights in battle shonen are somehow not a key part of storytelling and understanding character? And then people say you can’t understand motion through Akutami.
@ZaksAnimangaReviews15
@ZaksAnimangaReviews15 5 ай бұрын
I'm excited for the comparison between JJK and Sakamoto Days
@anuragdas4605
@anuragdas4605 5 ай бұрын
Maybe we already have, he already made a video about it .
@BenDonnie-cp2no
@BenDonnie-cp2no 5 ай бұрын
I don’t see at all how some people don’t know that bleach was basically the blue prints to jjk acting as inspiration even though both are basically about people with superpowers killing ghosts
@SemekiIzuio
@SemekiIzuio 5 ай бұрын
Yup thats what beautiful about it just as DB YH and I think Fist of the North star it was were the blue prints for Natuto OP and Bleach. I dont understood why fandoms hate one another when the big 3 has inspired future manga and authors to make even better banger stories. Like its ok to take ideas and inspiration and learning from them to create cool stories. Gege took a bit of everything especially HxH with his own twist.
@Honest_Mids_Masher
@Honest_Mids_Masher 5 ай бұрын
@@SemekiIzuio YOU WA SHOCK!
@CoralVein
@CoralVein 5 ай бұрын
Jjk Introduced a lot of people to anime so that’s all they have really watched and when another anime is mentioned around it they feel they need to defend jjk. Tbh it’s rather annoying
@percybhere
@percybhere 5 ай бұрын
The same way you don’t acknowledge the influence Yuyu Hakusho had on Bleach and JJk
@CoralVein
@CoralVein 5 ай бұрын
@@percybhere just wrong, I have yet to see a bleach fan that has also seen yuyu not give it its flowers for inspiring bleach. Even the bleach fans that havent see yuyu don’t just straight up disregard it as fake information like jjk fans do to bleach
@ronald.robin.999
@ronald.robin.999 5 ай бұрын
i really like jjk's story, but i just can't tell what's going on in the fights sometimes. Like the punching and kicking can look whack with all the lines.
@maximilianosanchez1106
@maximilianosanchez1106 5 ай бұрын
31:07 I think there's narration in Bleach: The 1st thing I can think of an actual narrator (in the manga) and not the characters is Grummjow's backstory, when they explain how Hollows evolve. 2nd: Turn back the Pandulum opening and ending. Is mainly the characters remembering thier past. In Chapter 0 side A/B, in 0.8, in -17, in -16, in Memories in the rain, in chapter 33, in everything but the rain.
@Dragonpuncher123
@Dragonpuncher123 5 ай бұрын
I don't think there is any narration doing fights though. Like JJK does a lot.
@wv5853
@wv5853 5 ай бұрын
You should do a video on theories of what characters from other anime’s domain expansions would be.
@jharebrivera3973
@jharebrivera3973 5 ай бұрын
Ready to see this through my morning fr
@odst_735
@odst_735 5 ай бұрын
Completely unrelated to the discussion but I love how you use Dying Light 1’s soundtrack as background music, it’s gotta be one of the best game tracks out there
@joestarxshinigami4235
@joestarxshinigami4235 5 ай бұрын
Love both these series so much my favorite animanga and favorite new gen they both have they’re strengths when it comes to fights
@kelvinallen9327
@kelvinallen9327 5 ай бұрын
I love bleach fights alot.👍 But i wanted more creativity & tactics from Kubo, also more team fights. Jumpings/team work goes hard 👍 Kido is under used too.
@everyday4play401
@everyday4play401 3 ай бұрын
I haven’t read either manga fully but I’ve read the majority of both. When I read bleach I read more and watch the fights less. In jjk I read everything but I watched the detail of the fights because everything felt like it was moving constantly. Reading jjk felt like a struggle to keep up with the action itself. Which personally reading a manga that felt like it was constantly moving felt better to me
@SamTheGumMan117
@SamTheGumMan117 5 ай бұрын
I love Bleach's approach to fights more and how they build throughout the battles than JJK's but such a dope collab too with Radman both are great in their own ways though
@dragonman969
@dragonman969 5 ай бұрын
I well say with the rose thing. Who expects their opponent to burst their eardrums.
@sunnyrainyday6820
@sunnyrainyday6820 5 ай бұрын
31:56 “0bjective right answer” the Narrator literally said “Sukuna can’t pop his domain” and then the next page is Sukuna piping a domain with a binding vow
@yadafty7671
@yadafty7671 5 ай бұрын
Nothing like that ever happens bro. I dont know what shitty fan translation you read but in the accurate translations the author never says sukuna cant pop his domain
@rand12389
@rand12389 4 ай бұрын
Bro how u gonna say "can't pop his domain" like a quote. Are u reading a hood translation or some shit😂. Sukuna couldn't use his domain cause the usual part for opening a domain in his brain was damaged. But he learned to do it with an unharmed part of his brain cause I think thats where Gojo used his CE when opening his domain. Sukuna learned from that. Also It was stated during when Yuta and Yuji were fighting Sukuna inside Yutas domain that Sukuna's brain was slowly recovering and dude hit 2 black flashes before he opened his domain again and its not like it was a perfect one.
@RYANARRADI
@RYANARRADI 4 ай бұрын
@@rand12389ppl forget if u do black flash u get back ur power 😂😂
@RYANARRADI
@RYANARRADI 4 ай бұрын
Sukuna has so much cursed energy he can use domain every time😂😂
@dennymanarus9742
@dennymanarus9742 4 ай бұрын
At least gege can think of something better than nuke beam fight and still frame "cinematic" shot. I've watched bleach and it's not really consistent with Ichigo ability either. One moment he blizt and later he can't chase a slow opponent. Like really?
@fergusaur_7306
@fergusaur_7306 5 ай бұрын
Been following your content way before you had 100k, and man you just keep getting better and better. Keep up the good work!
@whit3dant3
@whit3dant3 5 ай бұрын
Keep up the loyalty
@rustyshackleford7763
@rustyshackleford7763 4 ай бұрын
I think an interesting idea for a video would be about these long drawn out final big boss fights in manga, JJK, MHA, and others what are the flaws what are the strengths. Or what your perspective would be on them.
@Kuuga4Good
@Kuuga4Good 5 ай бұрын
This was an amazing video, I'd love to see a comparison between Bleach and My Hero Academia, much like JJK and Bleach they are different but I believe MHA and Bleach are much more similar in multiple aspects
@kelvinallen9327
@kelvinallen9327 5 ай бұрын
You really think so?? I never tried My Hero before. How are they similar ??
@Kuuga4Good
@Kuuga4Good 5 ай бұрын
@@kelvinallen9327 they're similar in terms of the fact there's more huge attacks and like hand to hand combat, on top of that just like bleach MHA doesn't use narration much, and if there is narration it's from a character's perspective
@kelvinallen9327
@kelvinallen9327 5 ай бұрын
@@Kuuga4Good ok. Thanks for the feed back 👍 I might have to try MHA
@RYANARRADI
@RYANARRADI 4 ай бұрын
Bleach better😂😂
@kelvinallen9327
@kelvinallen9327 4 ай бұрын
@@RYANARRADI so you tried MHA too? Im now on Jojo's, i might try MHA eventually. So tell me, is MHA bad or good or ???
@natoriousthehopeful2786
@natoriousthehopeful2786 5 ай бұрын
Has someone who grew up in the year of the big three, I absolutely love the spectacle that Bleach brings to the table🤩 That being said, I will admit that JJ Kay's fights have decent choreography ✊
@dennymanarus9742
@dennymanarus9742 4 ай бұрын
Just say it's good man. No need for the back paddling
@dennymanarus9742
@dennymanarus9742 4 ай бұрын
"Decent",then what would you consider good. Bleach fight?
@drivergoku8510
@drivergoku8510 5 ай бұрын
Bro answered the question at the beginning of the video all to say
@Washekk2712
@Washekk2712 5 ай бұрын
I think I got a good examples between JJK and Bleach Bleach is more like a movie and JJK is like a TV show, Bleach fights are like Infinity war, Endgame and JJK fights are like Loki, What if. I dont know if anyone gets the same vibes as me lol
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad 4 ай бұрын
I think it is more Bleach is Star Wars and JJK is John Wick.
@princemannic
@princemannic 5 ай бұрын
i really like these discussion style videos
@xx-demon-akitsuha-xx
@xx-demon-akitsuha-xx 5 ай бұрын
RADMAN AND BR!?!?!? OOH THIS IS GOING TO BE GOOD!!! For me, I definitely prefer Jujutsu Kaisen's approach, largely due to my stance on the emotions behind fights. I feel that the emotions and themes of a fight should already be set up and present, or at the very least be able to quickly unfold into something we can get into (Sasuke vs Deidara comes to mind for the latter imo). This is going to be an insanely "duh" take, but if you are conveying stories, emotions, and themes through a fight scene, then it will be done through fighting, hence my preference for choreograhy. A fight being carried on emotions alone will not do it for, hence my dislike of One Piece fights for example. The emotions and themes should already be there, and your job as the author/artist is to convey that through choreography. In that regard, JJK fights are more up my alley for me. The complexities of cursed energy as a power system scratch that hyperfixation itch I constantly have since there are so many established possibilities that every character has access to (non-innate techniques, binding vows, etc.) that can come into play. Plus the characterisation that can come from non-dialogue options such as who does or does not have a domain, what the nature of their domain says about their inner self means that JJK can convey what it needs to without bloat or resorting to beam struggles, existing in that happy medium wher there are crazy attacks being thrown around but the raw hand-to-hand aspect is still jusr as, if not more viable. Plus Gege's more functional storytelling, whilst not perfect (Kashimo, Yuki, etc.), greatly benefits his fights, whereas Bleach has things like the basically every Arrancar minus the Espada or Grimmjow's Fraccion from the Night of Sledgehammer chapters that get boring with how much Kubo dwells on them, and even then neither of those groups are perfect in terms of their rosters and the fights they have. In retrospect, moments like Kira beheading the Arrancar that he fought or Iba berating Ikkaku for holding back in the pillar fights are really god damn good, but getting to them can be a slog that I dont enjoy subjecting myself to.
@Dragonpuncher123
@Dragonpuncher123 5 ай бұрын
Something that I feel people often don't realise about Bleach is how few attacks fights are finished in. Ichigo just hits Byakuya 4 times in their final fight and Aizen he only hits twice. This style makes every hit seem like a big deal and have impact. But it is also something that you don't see a lot in other series and that might turn some people off since they are more used to the kind of brawls you see in JJK.
@dennymanarus9742
@dennymanarus9742 4 ай бұрын
It also lacks in motion. If the few hit have dept to it then it's good but the only thing that are filling that fight is long monologue, flash back and saying "gotcha" uno reverse card three times
@dennymanarus9742
@dennymanarus9742 4 ай бұрын
"Well actually" 3X
@ChiggnNumgets
@ChiggnNumgets 5 ай бұрын
gojo flicking a purple through toji is burned into my brain
@whit3dant3
@whit3dant3 5 ай бұрын
One of the name things I like about kubo not drawing backgrounds a lot is because when he does it really stands out. Which is Controversial
@greenpooljama
@greenpooljama 5 ай бұрын
holy shit a 50 minute video, goated
@boscorafelio
@boscorafelio 5 ай бұрын
Dude shadow dropped his longest video yet, gonna update on what I feel after watching it
@justsomeguywithamustache2901
@justsomeguywithamustache2901 5 ай бұрын
Bleach vs jjk Protagonist- bleach Antagonists-bleach Main villain- bleach Story/plot-bleach Side characters- bleach Female characters-bleach World building- both Osts-bleach Character designs- bleach Fights- both Artsyle- bleach Animation- jjk I love both, but bleach is my favourite 😊
@NinthShinigami
@NinthShinigami 5 ай бұрын
Agreed man agreed on every front. With TYBW tho, I’m going towards that animation personally lol
@justsomeguywithamustache2901
@justsomeguywithamustache2901 5 ай бұрын
@@NinthShinigami the animation for tybw is definitely goated, but the animation in jjk is better to me, but regardless bleach takes the top spot lol
@lxx2103
@lxx2103 5 ай бұрын
This is exactly how I pictured both 😂😂, no disrespect to jjk tho, I still love it too😊
@randomt800kiddo2
@randomt800kiddo2 5 ай бұрын
@@NinthShinigamicour 1's animation is way better than cour 2's, jjk's animation is consistently goated
@justsomeguywithamustache2901
@justsomeguywithamustache2901 5 ай бұрын
​​@@randomt800kiddo2yeh I definitely agree with that, not saying bleach tybw looks bad, but by studio pierrot standards, that's probably the best they've ever done, but jjk definitely has better animation only
@LordOfTheMikes
@LordOfTheMikes 5 ай бұрын
Jjk is grit and bleach is beauty, both are great
@HaresGaballa
@HaresGaballa 4 ай бұрын
Dang I loved your what ifs man I love your doing good now
@SamuelRondreigz4720
@SamuelRondreigz4720 5 ай бұрын
My favorite jjk fights are legit any Yuji vs Mahito they are my FAVORITE characters in JJK along side Choso (rip my boi) and can't really say what my favorite fights in Bleach are because I haven't read or watched the series in the WHILE. The fights that stand out in the brain are Ichigo vs White Zangetsu and Ichigo vs any big bad antagonist, this is probably because I had to do a writing analysis on a series of my choice, chose Bleach, and my analysis kinda hinged on those fights. It's very interesting, I like the Bleach fights more because of what the character "embody" in the perspective of x characters that's fighting them + what it means for that character, but with JJK it's more about who's fighting who if I like them and the hype.
@dennymanarus9742
@dennymanarus9742 4 ай бұрын
Gege shows in a logical and creative way which character is more skilled. There's no "embody" in it. Bleach really is a good anime but only for the early days
@dennymanarus9742
@dennymanarus9742 4 ай бұрын
The big three days
@sunstirade0273
@sunstirade0273 5 ай бұрын
If no one’s said it yet, the only time Bleach has a narrator is for the beginning of Turn Back the Pendulum and in Grimmjow’s flashback.
@TSG_Froak
@TSG_Froak 4 ай бұрын
wasnt kisuke the narator during turn back the pendulem and grimmjow himself the narrator in his flashback?
@sunstirade0273
@sunstirade0273 3 ай бұрын
@@TSG_Froak You can tell from the way both narrators speak in both instances that it’s not either character.
@boyk6876
@boyk6876 5 ай бұрын
We getting through lobotomy kaisen with this one🗣🔥🔥
@ithinkicanwrite
@ithinkicanwrite 5 ай бұрын
Favourite JJK fight is Maki vs Naoya (part 2). Honestly I think it's super underrated. It's fast, important to the plot, important to the characters, fun, and just so well drawn!
@canaipalene2175
@canaipalene2175 4 ай бұрын
I love every of you two perspective also when you know that Kubo love to draw his manga focusing on the character even making the background not as detailed to make the people focus on the charactere also Kubo Draw the panel big really, also where Gege has some gritty fight at some pose we got good panel to focus better on the charactere too
@dennymanarus9742
@dennymanarus9742 4 ай бұрын
Yeah there's more veriaty with gege's work. Bleach is a one trick pony
@RioLatheri
@RioLatheri 4 ай бұрын
What I love the most about Bleach is Hichigo. IT WAS SUCH A SLOWBURN but I'd be damned if I said I didn't cry when I read,"The blade is me." 😭😭😭😭
@javionfranklin2494
@javionfranklin2494 5 ай бұрын
I love the long video fam got a movie to watch 😂
@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu
@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu 5 ай бұрын
Im happy....i m just hyped to start channel. So i can talk with everyone and give introspective and debunk videos for loser(non bleach fans)
@Beyondtheknight
@Beyondtheknight 5 ай бұрын
My 2 favorite anime
@kelvinallen9327
@kelvinallen9327 5 ай бұрын
Its always good & refreshing hearing Ronin & Radman talk about Bleach. I enjoy their individual channels.
@estermagdali
@estermagdali 5 ай бұрын
Great video man wish you uploaded more often but 👍
@thegrimgamer8044
@thegrimgamer8044 4 ай бұрын
Best line from either series in the replies. In my opinion it's 'the only reason you were the strongest sorcerer in history is simply because i wasn't born yet' -Satorou Gojo Haven't seen bleach yet
@Honest_Mids_Masher
@Honest_Mids_Masher 4 ай бұрын
This isn't the best speech but me it's super iconic to the author's favorite character "The perfect being, huh? There is no such thing as perfect in this world. That may sound cliché, but it’s the truth. The average person admires perfection and seeks to obtain it. But, what’s the point of achieving perfection? There is none. Nothing. Not a single thing. I loathe perfection! If something is perfect, then there is nothing left. There is no room for imagination. No place left for a person to gain additional knowledge or abilities. Do you know what that means? For scientists such as ourselves, perfection only brings despair. It is our job to create things more wonderful than anything before them, but never to obtain perfection. A scientist must be a person who finds ecstasy while suffering from that antimony. In short, the moment that foolishness left your mouth and reached my ears, you had already lost. Of course, that’s assuming you are a scientist" - Mayuri Kurotsuchi
@didist9065
@didist9065 5 ай бұрын
Broken Ronin, who makes your thumbnails?
@soulholders
@soulholders 5 ай бұрын
The thing about the pacing difference is that they were written in two different eras, with two different sets of publication/audience expectations. Bleach was allowed to meander quite a bit, whereas now if a few chapters of a new manga are slow and unpopular SJ cancels the whole thing. At this point there's no way JJK would be cancelled but Gege couldn't take that risk back when the story should've still been building its characters organically. Also, since Bleach/Naruto/HunterxHunter already exists experienced audiences are less patient with new series since they've seen a lot of the same tropes before. So, Gege just skipped everything that could be called 'filler' like the audience (hypothetically) asked him to.
@savage_Sloth90
@savage_Sloth90 4 ай бұрын
Like you all were aaying in the video both have something the pther doesnt and both are great at what they do. Kubo leaves a lot up to interpretation of the readers. He doesnt like to spell things out for us unless he has to. I think i recall him saying that he likes to leave that mystery were you can almost dechiper an answer, but sometimes that answer isn't so concert inside the material given.
@nazwert284
@nazwert284 5 ай бұрын
Missed a huge opportunity to talk about the conversation characters in jjk have through their fights especially in more recent chapters with sukuna kaisen, jjk is one of the biggest perpetrators of actions speak louder than words, hence the narrator has such a heavy role for the other more simple stuff he can’t just show
@justincarter1217
@justincarter1217 5 ай бұрын
I would love to see another one of these but with jjk and naruto
@mrstrangeworld5977
@mrstrangeworld5977 5 ай бұрын
naruto better imo
@sladelius6174
@sladelius6174 5 ай бұрын
Early Naruto to early Shippuden has some of the best fights in Shonen. 🗿
@RYANARRADI
@RYANARRADI 4 ай бұрын
@@sladelius6174cap
@RYANARRADI
@RYANARRADI 4 ай бұрын
@@mrstrangeworld5977no
@richinfacts6003
@richinfacts6003 3 ай бұрын
Kubo said Saint Seiya was a big inspiration on his series and you can definitely see it through how he draws some of his fights. It’s a great series I recommend all Bleach fans should watch.
@sargassod.d.3167
@sargassod.d.3167 3 ай бұрын
One thing to mention about narration is that too much of it can really be annoying. A classic example is the Hunter X Hunter anime, where they spend so much time explaining character abilities and feelings that it just gets frustrating. It actually seems to get worse as the show goes on, especially in the chimera ant arc-there's just way too much explanation for things that should be obvious. On the flip side, JJK does a great job with narration; it sticks to just explaining character abilities without going overboard. And I have to say, I think the narrator in JJK is pretty cool-the old lady in the Japanese version has a haunting vibe that adds to the story. But back to bad narration: imagine if they took 15 minutes just to explain Hakari’s jackpot and then another 15 minutes on something else! A narrator can really make or break an anime or manga. For instance, Bleach doesn't rely on a narrator because everything is either clear or explained well enough that you can figure it out yourself. They sometimes do exposition dumps, which I’m fine with even if others aren't. But yeah, that's my take on it!
@SeeZer0
@SeeZer0 4 ай бұрын
34:27 this can also be a said for one piece because of how much Oda does show but don’t tell for example Usopps lies in the beginning Arcs coming true or how much pain Luffy went through in Drum island just to cure nami which shows how much he cares for his crew (and yes I wanted to complete the big 3)
@juanhaines7295
@juanhaines7295 5 ай бұрын
What if higaruma reached his full potential? Sense he able to learn ext on his own before dying and his shikigami could automatically recognize the soul. He had so much to work with. Just imagining if he could invert his gavel and executioner sword to get better more powerful weapons. The sky is the limit for him.
@mikalkingsman662
@mikalkingsman662 5 ай бұрын
20:52 the way that the grasshopper jumped into my head b4 he said that
@kelvinallen9327
@kelvinallen9327 5 ай бұрын
Bleach characters dont always explain their power, and only when they are confident. 👍
@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu
@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu 5 ай бұрын
Happy it not a power scale....but hownthey portray the fights JJK paneling is superior during fights. Bleach underlying the emotional then jjk
@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu
@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu 5 ай бұрын
Aizen rolling up in a SUV and just peacing out😂
@raulmartinez3059
@raulmartinez3059 5 ай бұрын
Being able to write a story without a narrator, is a good way to tell how good the aurtor is
@notthesimi
@notthesimi 4 ай бұрын
I like bleach and I like jjk. If it’s just the anime then I have to give the edge to jjk. No fillers, and no excessively long recaps of nothing of major importance.
@TSG_Froak
@TSG_Froak 4 ай бұрын
imo the tybw anime is better then the jjk anime. but i do agree. although filler is better then bad pacing. cause u can skip filler.
@notthesimi
@notthesimi 4 ай бұрын
@@TSG_Froak filler is a issue for when it was coming out, and those who don’t that there is a website that shows canon, mixed canon, and filler. The arrancar arc is pacing nightmare in the anime , TYBW was a nightmare for manga readers. I don’t have a issue with jjk pacing. Not from the anime or from what I’ve read in the manga.
@Sincere392
@Sincere392 4 ай бұрын
Day one of asking can you do what if Yuta reached his full potential
@HBpenman
@HBpenman 5 ай бұрын
I don't know if this makes sense, but JJK seems to have a much more focused narrative.
@xebec995
@xebec995 5 ай бұрын
This is what the kendrick and j cole collab album woulda sounded like
@kingnate101
@kingnate101 5 ай бұрын
Great video
@exitproject
@exitproject 5 ай бұрын
Debating whether to listen as I commute home or save it for work tomorrow. Correct answer is listen twice
@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu
@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu 5 ай бұрын
😊😊😊 just got finhaed cooking lamb with homemade fries...then you gice me this foe desert😢😢thank you
@jotharo-t6o
@jotharo-t6o 5 ай бұрын
Yo can you please make jujutsu kaisen vs Hunter x hunter it will be a very good video specially Chrollo Lucilfer vs Yuta Okkotsu or Zeno and Silva vs Yuta instead of Chrollo
@paledrake
@paledrake 5 ай бұрын
About the narrator thing, the reason why a lot of manga doesn't use it is because it tells and doesn't show, basically doing the opposite of what good storytelling is. Now it does work well in certain situations, like in Jojo I think it works wonderful, because not only does it fit the mood as a hype-man, but Jojo also goes balls to the wall almost constantly with stand-powers. Imo JJK usually don't have that many complex powers that need in-depth narrations and I generally thing when the narrator pops up and explains things it explains it so poorly that it confuses the audience instead. For example Yuji vs Choso had a lot of narration in the anime, but what was actually happening wasn't that complex, they just gave it really long-winded explanations and talked in circles. When it comes to Revealing Ones Hand the thing is we never see anyone's technique actually get stronger after they explain their power. It just feels like a cheap excuse rather than an implementation because we never see a difference in power before and after the explanation.
@conic2721
@conic2721 4 ай бұрын
JoJo kinda NEEDS a narrator because not even the characters know what the fuck they're doing. Also the narrator amplifies it because it's genuinely hilarious most of the time
@the8thgate543
@the8thgate543 5 ай бұрын
Jjk is cold but i prefer Bleach in every aspect. Just my personal preference
@zineprixmenu4373
@zineprixmenu4373 5 ай бұрын
Oh this gon be fun
@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu
@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu 5 ай бұрын
This is MY VIDEO TOPIC...NO ONE STEALS THIS OKAY...GOOD. BLEACH looks like battle manga...but its not and its not kubo isnt a poet he is a 100% musician bleach is his ... concept album....if you thinlk "The Wall" or my favorite Mellon collie and th3 infinte sadness by smashing pumpkins. Kubo has call backin chapter title. Cigar blues and cigar bules remix. And it connected. Kubp plays music...if i got that right...kubo wants the immersion. Somthimes i hate it
@dmareskira8649
@dmareskira8649 4 ай бұрын
Sword fights are eloquent and usually end in one determining move. Yeah it’s easy to make a hand to hand fight. Also they tell their stories differently. This is an apples to orange comparison, Or telling an orange to be an apple.
@dennymanarus9742
@dennymanarus9742 4 ай бұрын
No way u just said hand to hard fight is easy to make. Bleach doesn't even do a decent sword fight. They might as well just wave their empty hand cus that shit got no Dept
@kelvinallen9327
@kelvinallen9327 4 ай бұрын
​@@dennymanarus9742 😂 I smell hate 😂🤣. Every thing you just said about bleach is totally false. Bleach has depth, style, emotions, ethnic diversity, amazing females, great villains, etc. Surface readers can only read surface. No offense 👍
@lizdevilz7271
@lizdevilz7271 2 ай бұрын
I feel like JJK fight is about pushing limits and face risk you can die anyday and that make fight felt more raw. While in Bleach, Most fights pretty much symbolism. It’s fight to learned other and fight to exchange heart. Fr example, When Ichigo fight Ulqiorra, It’s fight between Human who become monster to protect someone vs Monster who slowly learn about human. If I have to choose, I’d go with Bleach. I’ve more of symbolism guy.
@dannysdungareedanceoff8481
@dannysdungareedanceoff8481 5 ай бұрын
I value choreography, motive, emotions, how abilities are used more than the flare of designs, big static panels and stuff
@Posttimeskip-kPk
@Posttimeskip-kPk 2 ай бұрын
Gooning
@Kazzz256
@Kazzz256 5 ай бұрын
I like bleach fight more but prefer jjk animation more
@Posttimeskip-kPk
@Posttimeskip-kPk 2 ай бұрын
@@Kazzz256 Jjk Animation mid Lol
@profiesx
@profiesx 5 ай бұрын
While choreography and such are cool the biggest thing I care about in fights are the characters so for me bleach wins by a country mile
@grosstoastie1216
@grosstoastie1216 3 ай бұрын
I kinda look at like this. JJK is more like watching the UFC, Bleach is like looking at high speed jet combat. They're both crazy and cool to watch but fundamentally very different and operate on totally separate scales of force.
@Nobody12546
@Nobody12546 5 ай бұрын
Im waiting for the broken ronin to become the the ronin that found peace one day 😔
@maattthhhh
@maattthhhh 4 ай бұрын
I mean, with Rose, Mask would've most likely figured out what he needed to do eventually, even if Rose doesn't explain his ability
@juanhaines7295
@juanhaines7295 5 ай бұрын
Would you compare naruto and chainsawman?
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