Julian of Norwich her secret scribes

[@amethyst205]

I feel very close to Julian and am using her prayers at this worrying time of my life, thankyou for this.

[@cathleen537]

Deep gratitude Sheila. So beautifully rendered.

[@Phorquieu]

Brilliant discussion of the historical events surrounding the preservation (and near destruction) of Julian's book. Thank you for posting this precious examination of much-needed knowledge - our modern desperately needs this!

[@mrs.h.1577]

Thank you for such a lovely, personable history telling! The well-chosen slides and meaningful details you chose make this docu-video a real treasure.

[@mortalclown3812]

If KZbin would only render more jewel videos like this one...Wow. Thank you such elegant and enlightening material about one of my favorite people and how her work was saved. All blessings to you!

[@marilynheatherscane5317]

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[@caitlinmatthews4276]

What a wonderful film! Thank you, Sheila! I was an oblate of Stanbrook Abbey for many years and knew the story, but it is great to have it revealed again here.

[@lovelight9261]

Very good to find this wonderful history. I accidentally found Julian online years ago when I entered a search for Divine Love. Ever since I have been reading, sharing and listening to the Librivox recording of this beautiful treasure. Thank you.

[@itsjustme0123]

This was amazing! I knew about the nuns, but I didn't know their names, ages, and connection to other famous names in history. Really well done, full of incredible facts. Thank you, thank you!

[@eldugar_ichthus]

I have to thank you for a beautiful, informative, and inspiring presentation. You have set out the history with precision, clarity and understanding, and the calm, gentle tone of the reading seems to strengthen the content and make it even more authoritative. Please accept my gratitude for the significant impression your video has made on me.

[@louisebrigden9240]

Absolutely wonderful video. Thank you SO much. We need to think more about Julian's life and words in these dark days. I see the BBC has just issued a new documentary too. Bless you and thanks again, I will soon be back in Norwich to learn more !

[@ianrigden4076]

Thank you for sharing the history of how we are able to read this incredible book today, wonderful.

[@jessegrant8666]

Thank you thank you thank you heavenly parents 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@robynmarler1951]

Amen 🌄

[@dominicgodfrey8015]

Lovely work thank you, I solve riddles, I have been working on the Original church Round of Three Blind Mice, the second line is a prayer to Dame Iulian, so I'm calling it The Julian Reading 📚. God bless

[@sheilaupjohn3666]

Fascinating. I know about the hidden meanings in the Twelve Days of Christmas, Green Grow the Rushes-O, Ring-a-ring-a-roses, Mary quite Contrary but I’ve never heard of anything about the Three Blind Mice. Just seen a suggestion it might be Latimer, Radley, and Cranmer, but they are centuries after Julian. Please tell me more. Thanks. Sheila

[@Messier45_Pleiades]

To go through all it has gone through, this book is obviously meant to be read. God has saved it and preserved it.

[@louisebrigden9240]

Amen!!

[@carlosc6297]

Amazing story, very well presented. “Thanks be to God” for the hazardous and courageous preservation of Julian’s writings! I wonder from which sources the author of this so interesting video obtained the complementary information to put these amazing events together. In any event, an enjoyable historical-religious work.

[@a2zof]

Well said.

[@DaisyDebs]

I SO enjoyed listening to your excellent youtube video ..thankyou for sharing such an interesting story ...and I am looking forward to more !!! :)

[@knighttemplar1119]

Loving Upjohn's book and this video. One of my favourite books in my theology studies.

[@marym7862]

Thank you very much for this true history!

[@sheilaupjohn3666]

Yes, someone must have helped Julian with writing materials. Perhaps it was the ‘man of religion’ who visited her and assured her she was not raving. Possibly he came from the nearby Augustine monastery in King Street. It might even be he who was the scribe of the Short Text. But he would have done this because he believed her visions were genuine and without seeking the official sanction of his Bishop - and perhaps even of his prior. The Long Text unquestionably owes its survival to the Sisters of Cambrai and those of Sion and it is factual not feminist to point this out.

[@sheilaupjohn3666]

Yes, someone must have helped Julian with writing materials. Perhaps it was the ‘man of religion’ who visited her and assured her she was not raving. Possibly he came from the nearby Augustine monastery in King Street. It might even be he who was the scribe of the Short Text. But he would have done this because he believed her visions were genuine and without seeking the official sanction of his Bishop - and perhaps even of his prior. The Long Text unquestionably owes its survival to the Sisters of Cambrai and those of Sion and it is factual not feminist to point this out. 1:15

[@johnfisher247]

Translations of the Latin were done. There are individual books of the Scriptures that have the Latin at the top and below the spoken tongue. The issue was accuracy of translations. Frequently heretics like the Lollards did translations that were inaccurate and full of key terms of words they used to bolster their distortions. There was suspicion of the motives for these translations using a vernaculad with local and regional differences and confusions

[@pmichael73]

Julian was no doubt an amazing spiritual woman, but there is too much feminist rubbish here. Do you think she could have written this without the sanction of the Church? Who got her the paper/parchment, ink and prepared her quills? This wasn't smuggled, clandestine work. This was done in plain sight, recognised for what it was, and approved. What happened in the reformation is another story. Abd all shall be well.

[@sheilaupjohn3666]

Yes, someone must have helped Julian with writing materials. It might have been the ‘man of religion’ who visited her and assured her she was not raving. Possibly he came from the nearby Augustine monastery in King Street. It might even be he who was the scribe of the Short Text. But he could certainly have been able to do this without seeking the official sanction of his Bishop - and perhaps even of his prior. He would have done this because he believed her visions were genuine. But the Long Text unquestionably owes its survival to the Sisters of Cambrai and those of Sion and it is factual not feminist to point this out.

[@pmichael73]

@@sheilaupjohn3666 Thank you. Sorry, I do not believe she could have written so much without it being detected - nay, sanctioned - by the clergy of St Julian's. While separate, her window meant she virtually lived in public. I think the perception of mediaeval life today is fundamentlly wrong. We think in terms of "allowed" and "forbidden" being highly legalistic in our thought. Then, there was a more phenomenological following of "roles" and a greater link between "rights" such as they were and "duties" which is not nearly as strong today. That we have both long and short forms is nearly miraculous and over-rides the "how."

[@sheilaupjohn3666]

Yes, someone must have helped Julian with writing materials. Perhaps it was the ‘man of religion’ who visited her and assured her she was not raving. Possibly he came from the nearby Augustine monastery in King Street. It might even be he who was the scribe of the Short Text. But he would have done this because he believed her visions were genuine and without seeking the official sanction of his Bishop - and perhaps even of his prior. The Long Text unquestionably owes its survival to the Sisters of Cambrai and those of Sion and it is factual not feminist to point this out. 1:48