New TP4056 Lithium Cell Charger Module with Battery Protection

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Julian Ilett

Julian Ilett

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@steved2967
@steved2967 8 жыл бұрын
I just want to say that I feel I have learnt more from your videos than I learnt doing a two year electronics course. Thanks, Julian
@JasonPrice1
@JasonPrice1 10 жыл бұрын
Saw this and had to order a couple. Just started getting into 18650 salvaging so fun times ahead! Already have close to 40 batteries salvaged so far.
@Mandrag0ras
@Mandrag0ras 10 жыл бұрын
I'm jealous!
@JasonPrice1
@JasonPrice1 10 жыл бұрын
runner180fxr Ya, I get a lot of laptops tossed my way and I also have a love for Ryobi power tools so I ended up with a dead pack at one point and it offered up 8 of 10 batteries as good so yay!
@PIXscotland
@PIXscotland 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. I just bought a stack of these and your tests were useful in deciding to do so. Today, May 2015 this board is 99p on Ebay with free shipping.
@JasonMasters
@JasonMasters 6 жыл бұрын
Answering a few questions which multiple people have asked: 1. You can't use these boards in parallel to increase the charging current, however there are boards which do this by properly connecting the TP4056 chips to work in parallel. Search eBay for this phrase: TP4056 4.2V 3A High Current Lithium Battery Charging Board Charger 2. You generally can't charge cells in series with these boards even by connecting a separate charging circuit to each cell or set of cells, both because the charging power supply needs to be totally isolated from the load and because these charging boards would have difficulty in handling the discharge current. Instead, you'd need to search for a Battery Management System (BMS) board which is designed to properly balance charge the number of series cells you wish to use. Generally these will also incorporate over-current and under-voltage protection, which are both essential. You also need a power supply which will produce the correct voltage for charging the cells. 3. You can charge multiple 18650 cells in parallel. The only effect of adding more cells will be that the time taken to charge the cells will increase, perhaps to an impractical length of time if you add enough cells.
@johnxisde
@johnxisde 6 жыл бұрын
just sane a question of mine, i can use my load at same time as i charge the battery? :)
@erlendse
@erlendse 10 жыл бұрын
The board is neat. But I would like the protection module under layers of tape and other protection next to the battery. As for loads, if you can; make a bypass path to power the load from the voltage source, while on charge. Looks like a Li-Ion non-poly battery, they may be ok with being driven 4.2V over time. Still you may get a 4.1V charger instead and have the battery last a lot more cycles.
@Enderkruemel
@Enderkruemel 5 жыл бұрын
I Charge all my lipos up to 4.24v and they are as Good as New. (i have used them for About 2 Jears now and almost dayly for my rc car and fpv copter.) But i never Run them lower as 3.1v.
@reyu128
@reyu128 9 жыл бұрын
i've got the question, should it be very warm? i connected everything like you and its very hot, can't even touch it, any ideas?
@normfolkers8966
@normfolkers8966 8 жыл бұрын
Julian, may I suggest you consider reviewing/investigating the circuit boards typically found inside laptop battery packs that perform the recharging of batteries when the laptop power supply is plugged in. I've taken apart several old battery packs to get the 18650 batteries. But the electronics in these packs is fully capable of charging these batteries. It would be useful tactic to re-use these electronic components. Also, typically only one battery is defective in these packs so a method of opening these battery packs, testing and replacing the defective battery/ies could be reused in the laptop or used simply to recharge batteries. Thanks for all your You Tube presentations.
@melkiorwiseman5234
@melkiorwiseman5234 5 жыл бұрын
As I understand it, the electronics inside the battery pack are designed to interact with the electronics on the laptop's motherboard, meaning they can't stand alone. I think that the battery packs are also deliberately made to be almost impossible to disassemble without wrecking the whole pack. I expect the motivation would be "safety" since you need to be sure that you're replacing like with like and not many people would realise that you can't just jam any old 18650 into the battery pack to replace the dead cell. And as the cells age, their capacity would suffer so even replacing like with like might not produce ideal results.
@KD0CAC
@KD0CAC 2 жыл бұрын
@@melkiorwiseman5234 Well you should have mentioned " impossible to disassemble " before I recovered over 500++ 18650's , without damaging either the cells or boards ;)
@melkiorwiseman5234
@melkiorwiseman5234 2 жыл бұрын
@@KD0CAC It's known as "hyperbole" and it issues forth under the impetus of bitter experience. 😅
@Meiestrix
@Meiestrix 8 жыл бұрын
+Julian Ilett If have one question. Why is the light bulb on when you connect the charger and the battery voltage is still under 2.9 Volts? Isnt the low voltage cutoff enabled and the MOSFET is disabled, so the 100mA trickle charge of the TP4056 goes just to the battery? This would mean the charger is directly connected to the OUT terminals. EDIT: That would mean the charger would never start to charge if you are using more than 100mA. On the pictures of the module it looks like the battery minus gets disconnected with active discharge protection. But it would be much better if the out terminal gets disconnected, to avoid this problem. So in conclusion the charger is not designed to charge and use >100mA at the same time.
@alimemari1646
@alimemari1646 4 жыл бұрын
this is how a demonstration video should be made! thank you!
@szatanizmo
@szatanizmo 9 жыл бұрын
I got two of these and there's one thing about them that I don't like. The CC part of charging goes pretty well at about 0.9 A but when the cell reaches 4.2 V, it won't switch to CV. Blue led lights up indicating that charging is complete but it is obviously not. Any ideas on that? Also, as somebody has mentioned earlier, I don't like discharge voltage cut-off set at 2.5 V. Correct me if I'm wrong, but what we get with these two 'features' combined is under-charged and over-discharged cell that won't live long. Great YT channel by the way, keep it up!
@sundrak1
@sundrak1 9 жыл бұрын
Great video and so clearly explained and nice voice to listen to as well, keep up the great work!
@HitAndMissLab
@HitAndMissLab 9 жыл бұрын
Two Questions: - Isn't 2.5V discharge cut-off voltage too low for LiPo battereis? LiPos should be cut off at about 3.5-3.7? - Which resistor should be taken out and replaced so it can be replaced with potentiometer, so that one can have variable current 0-1,000mA.
@szatanizmo
@szatanizmo 9 жыл бұрын
+HitAndMissLab The resistor - if you hold the board with input socket on the left, it is the most bottom resistor (the one connected to pin no. 2). It's all in the datasheet :) And I don't like the discharge cut-off voltage either - way too low in my opinion.......
@jirkacvrcek
@jirkacvrcek 7 жыл бұрын
HitAndMissLab no, 3.7V is nominal voltage, not cut-off voltage
@mosestewelde8163
@mosestewelde8163 7 жыл бұрын
You don't need to replace the resistor if you connect a potentiometer in parallel.
@emilen2
@emilen2 7 жыл бұрын
HitAndMissLab Good practice for li-ion or LiPo is to cut discharge at minimum of 3.5 volts. Not much energy is available below this, although some chemistries are taking less cumulative damage from it. Charging to less than 4.2 V is also beneficial to cell life. (LiFePO4 is operating at a lower voltage, and the above voltage range does not apply to this chemistry.)
@jettechristensen4014
@jettechristensen4014 7 жыл бұрын
then why the heck are all the protection circuits 2.5v cutoff it makes not sense when that damages most lithiums, my lithium ion drill battery cuts at 3v.
@GiovanniBalestrieri
@GiovanniBalestrieri 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. How should we handle the situation in which the load draws ~100 mA and the charging process never ends?
@405line
@405line 9 жыл бұрын
Brilliant series of videos, really like the useful stuff you review and its nice to have someone reviewing practical everyday affordable stuff. I think you should not connect a load in parallel with B+/- that will not allow termination of the charge cycle because it will damage the cell, the requirement for the battery voltage maximum is very precise, and from what i can tell you could probably calibrate an everyday DNM using it as it as a voltage reference. Specs for all of the boards I have seen state cut off at 4.25v +/- 0.025V...I am basing the cut-off voltage from generic PCM boards sold on E-BAY. I am sure you are aware that there are PCM boards available that will allow a higher charging current. Keep up the good work
@theamazingshinningstar3855
@theamazingshinningstar3855 4 жыл бұрын
You must use a heat sink to reduce the heat of the IC TP 4056. The module with battery protection will draw current more than 1A when charging 18650 battery.
@mariogarabetov500
@mariogarabetov500 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, did you manage to find a solution for the overcharge when charging with the module and delivering load above 100mA simultaneously ? I want to power my Arduino Uno and a servo using one 3.7v cell with a step-up voltage regulator by charging it with a solar panel. However, how I can overcome the issue of overcharging?
@MarkWheels00
@MarkWheels00 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to know this as well
@powelljohnklaus
@powelljohnklaus 3 жыл бұрын
This chip causes a parasitic drain on the batteries. It will drain the battery down to 0.73V do not buy this chip.
@ljl451
@ljl451 7 жыл бұрын
Hello, is it possible to leave the load always connected (even while charging)?
@mnovo
@mnovo 10 жыл бұрын
I think the chip also has a timer safety feature where it will turn off after and over extended charge timer like the good old 555 timer circuit.
@MartinMajewskinet
@MartinMajewskinet 8 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand what the protection circuit does. The charger quits the charging at 4,2V anyway, doesn't it? Having a light load connected to the circuit will start draining the battery and eventually destroys it due to undercharging, because 2,5V is way too low for an LiI-Io battery. Inside the specification document your are warned not to connect a load while charging, so the setup in this video is incorrect anyway. But not having a load connected to the circuit while charging makes the whole protection thing obsolete... I am totally confused 😕
@JeffLewistennis
@JeffLewistennis 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! Great vid! Curious what’s the minimum mAh lipo battery these boosters are able to still power a 5v sensor. I tried with a 120mAh and my sensor fades after a while. Thanks for your help!
@jwuethrich8385
@jwuethrich8385 7 жыл бұрын
are the outs disconnected from the bat during charging? also have you tried linking the outs in series? guessing by the rest of the video (listening while doing other things) it would still require a few external fets to make a charger that individually charged the cells but allowed series output. Its not quite as good as an active balance but better than passive burn off at that point. also, out of curiosity, where is the shunt hiding for your current measurement on the scope?
@kmpres534
@kmpres534 8 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and a very clear description, thanks! Is it possible to raise the charge turn-on voltage on this board to something closer to 3.0 volts?
@FabriKzeiraDIY
@FabriKzeiraDIY 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best vídeo about tp4056 that I saw.. even to me as non english speaker
@mrobarton7192
@mrobarton7192 3 жыл бұрын
Great job on the video. What are you using for a shunt to display the current on your scope?
@jetstreamvelocity
@jetstreamvelocity 7 жыл бұрын
Could this be given an input from a solar panel (having a 5V USB output) on the micro-USB connector, with a USB powerbank connected to the output of the TP4056 module to have a setup where a discharge of the powerbank is prevented when the solar panel is not producing sufficient power? i.e. a setup where the solar panel charges the powerbank when it can generate sufficient power but the TP4056 prevents discharge of the powerbank when the solar panel output begins to drop when the light begins to fade due to clouds / sunset.
@hooperwille
@hooperwille 8 жыл бұрын
I have the older version and noticed using capacitor it stops charging at dangerous voltage of 4.5V. If it was real li-ion battery the charger would destroy it. Is there any way to adjust cut off voltage on this board?
@melkiorwiseman5234
@melkiorwiseman5234 5 жыл бұрын
That's probably because a capacitor does not respond the same way as a lithium cell. The TP4056 tries to hold the voltage to 4.2V while in CV mode but it's still trying to charge what it thinks is a battery. Since it's actually feeding current to a capacitor, naturally the voltage keeps on rising. TL;DR: Use an 18650 and it will work right.
@Gordonseries385
@Gordonseries385 8 жыл бұрын
important feature also is the ntc feedback. i will be testing it. sometime in curtain conditions the battery will get to hot. it will shutdown or lower current for what temperature the battery is. enjoyed you presentation and thank you
@enriquelaya
@enriquelaya 8 жыл бұрын
If you were to supply this module with a solar cell. Is it required to include a diode like we do when charging a battery directly? Thanks again.
@ioanacatrinei860
@ioanacatrinei860 2 жыл бұрын
I have a TP4056 circuit, version with Out+, Out-, B+ and B- output pins. If I have a load connected to OUT+, OUT-, 500 mA, and a battery connected to B+, B-, can this circuit to charge the battery and to power the load in the same time when it is connected to USB? I may to add to R3 an additional resistor to reduce the charging current to 300 mA value. The USB charger can deliver 5V/2A.
@rooshio1
@rooshio1 2 жыл бұрын
At 11:10 you mention that a small load may fool the board into not terminating the charge, resulting in over-charging. Does this mean the new version of this board can accomplish load sharing? Or would you need to supplement this board with a schottky diode and Pmosfet to safely charge the battery with a load on the circuit?
@johndii2194
@johndii2194 6 жыл бұрын
Do you think two inputs and two outputs of two boards could be connected in series, Feed the series input with 10 volts then connect the outputs to two cells?
@kendrickxy1774
@kendrickxy1774 7 жыл бұрын
WOW! Thanks so much! I bought 6 of them without even knowing the point of the the connectors OUT +/- ... Now thanks to you I understand that it's really useful because my batteries are protected! I have the older version, but I had a problem with these because it was charging my batteries until 4.1 volt and then it cuts off... So annoying. I'll use them for a project. Thanks to the OUT+/- It gonna be easier to make the circuit!
@Electricsrb
@Electricsrb 9 жыл бұрын
Hi, could i wire a couple of these in parallel to get a higher charge current? And to make a bigger battery pack could I wire inputs in parallel and each output for a separate cell in the pack to balance the charge correctly? Thanks for the answer!
@brazilcreative1063
@brazilcreative1063 3 жыл бұрын
Is this module used to charge cell phone battery?
@zaphodelektra960
@zaphodelektra960 9 жыл бұрын
Nice one Julian! Looking forward to more on Lithium Ion batteries & chargers available for the hobbyist market.
@FratCan
@FratCan 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Julian, This circuit is suitable for high-current 3.7-volt batteries, It is automatically terminates charging when the battery is full ? So cheap chargers do not fill the high-current batteries
@javiermartingarcia3405
@javiermartingarcia3405 10 жыл бұрын
If you use it for a mobile phone... there's anyway to activate too the usb data transfer when you connect it to PC or it's only for battery charge??
@lukaszM46
@lukaszM46 6 жыл бұрын
is there any advantage of using this module with a LiPo battery that itself has built in protection circuitry? I would like to use this in a circuit where there is a load (which can be turned off with a switch) constantly connected to the battery with this charging module. You showed at the end of this video that when using the older module, you add a load while charging, it will never complete the charge, as the blue LED turned red right away when you connected the resistors. Will the new board allow me to charge the battery properly and safely while powering the load circuit as well?
@ChristakyMe
@ChristakyMe 8 жыл бұрын
This circuit board does both charge management and battery management...but only supplies 1AMP. I have 4 18650's in parallel and don't want to wait 10 hours for them to charge. Is there a high amperage version of this circuit board? Can I wire two TP4056 boards together in parallel?
@danmand
@danmand 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these videos! One question though - in the video/datasheet it says that the overdischarge protection on this module kicks in at 2.4V... but isn't that getting a bit dangerously low? I've always been told never to take them much below 3V. I'd like to use this to automatically turn off my robot when the battery is running low, but I don't want to risk overdischarging...
@Ziplock9000
@Ziplock9000 4 жыл бұрын
did u find out?
@nordemoniac
@nordemoniac 6 жыл бұрын
Still a popular charger, but it does infect damage the LiPo's. They should be cut at 3.3V at a minimum, to avoid going under 3.2V. Keeping the LiPo between 3.2V and 4.2V will preserve its life (and avoid a potential fire). MCP73831/2 seems to be the best for this purpose.
@melkiorwiseman5234
@melkiorwiseman5234 5 жыл бұрын
The charge circuit was made for 18650 Li-Ion technology, not for Li-Po technology.
@cottsak
@cottsak 7 жыл бұрын
Does this mean that the new board supports "pass through" charging? Or did the old one do that already?
@ptmoy1
@ptmoy1 6 жыл бұрын
If I connect a boost converter to the out terminals of this charger and step voltage up to 5V, then use the output of the boost converter to power a Raspberry Pi, do you think the setup can function as a cheap 1-cell UPS for the Pi?
@JamesSleeman
@JamesSleeman 10 жыл бұрын
Nice one, certainly good for using with the unprotected cells. I've actually got all the same IC's floating around here somewhere, was on the "to do one day when I get to it" list to make a similar board. Except that I want to make it so that the load is powered direct from the external supply when connected, rather that through the charger, for the same reasons as you touched on, better to charge the battery unloaded.
@JulianIlett
@JulianIlett 10 жыл бұрын
With modules available at these prices, I'm not sure I could be bothered to make my own PCB. And you could modify these modules if they don't do exactly what you need.
@TheSharkey22
@TheSharkey22 10 жыл бұрын
Do your boards display a solid blue LED with the red LED flashing rapidly when ONLY the USB supply is connected. I cannot see in the video. I connected a battery (unprotected type) with reverse polarity now mine shows a solid blue LED. I am surprised that reverse polarity protection is not a feature on the board....Can my board be reset or is it for the bin??
@danielwilson4599
@danielwilson4599 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to know when the updated version will be for the usb c pd charging platform. 6a amp usb c charging to lithium battery would be an interesting option. That way we might see a standardised plug 66w seems like it's pretty future proof for alot of things... They made the tp4056 8 years ago... I was thinking if this usb c takes off as I think it should we might see usb c laptops more common. Would be cool to have charging facilities standardized at 66w output per socket... Busses trains etc... It actually can make a difference. 5-15 min journey could mean 30-60% charge times while making a small commute
@RobertShaverOfAustin
@RobertShaverOfAustin 8 жыл бұрын
What I'm wondering is how do multi-cell battery chargers keep the cells balanced? I was thinking there would have to have a charging circuit for each cell. You could use a TP4056 on each cell but that would require an isolated power source for each cell. I'm pretty sure that's not how it's done but do you know just how it is really done?
@TroyBaverstock
@TroyBaverstock 8 жыл бұрын
+Robert Shaver I too am wanting to do this with up to 6S and charging while drawing a load. My initial experiments are yielding mixed results and i think i need isolation somewhere.
@ablock3002
@ablock3002 8 жыл бұрын
is it unsafe to charge the batteries with the module that doesnt have protection modules on it? I thought the TP4056 terminates the voltage once the current reaches C/10 and has under voltage lockout?
@petrovski1948
@petrovski1948 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Julian, I have 2 x 18650 protected cells (new) and want to use them with the TP4056 boards. I’ve already ordered TP4056 with the protection circuitry built in and it struck me that my batteries are already protected. I assume I need to order the older boards with no protection circuitry to charge my protected batteries. It’s probably a stupid question but I thought I’d ask the expert first. Thanks in advance.
@astcomjakecw
@astcomjakecw 8 жыл бұрын
Am I correct in assuming the extra set of ports can be used with 2 batteries in parallel, or entirely separate?
@TeodorD
@TeodorD 10 жыл бұрын
Hello, I ordered one of these boards off ebay and I am having a bit of trouble with it... I have it connected to another board that acts as a lithium cell => USB (booster board) I have everything connected correctly and despite that after I unplug the charger board from the usb it doesn't provide power to the booster board. Even if i plug something into the usb to charge same problem. I've tried disconnecting the load (the booster board) and connecting it afterwards still had no luck. Do you know what could casue this problem?
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 7 жыл бұрын
Question: the TP4056 limit the current (amps). It's killing me, because I need to drow 2amps... Is there a way to change it?
@extendedp1
@extendedp1 8 жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks. I wish you had talked more about the board's problems, however. You found them, but didn't really make an issue of them... 1) Discharge protection doesn't cut on untill 2.5v, that is way to low, imo. 2) The board will not allow charging a cell below 2.9v... So when you combine the two together, along with the boards behavior of allowing further discharge as soon as the voltage hits 2.9v again, I see a bunch of flat, unchargeable cells.
@croydon21H
@croydon21H 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, so I can use TP4056 to charge 18650 and from output, I can use a switch and supply to terminal blocks of a motor driver and make the device recargeable?
@fumezflori
@fumezflori 8 жыл бұрын
+Julian Ilett Hello. Do you consider that can be used for bottom balancing the 18650 cells? could be used as for lowering a set of batteries prior put them in pack?
@mberlinger3
@mberlinger3 10 жыл бұрын
I have this module but I was wondering the best way to add reverse battery protection? I think a diode would cause too much voltage drop and cause the batteries to get harmed.
@carlhauschke6798
@carlhauschke6798 9 жыл бұрын
Are there any PCB that only have the protection function? So I can transform a unprotected cell into a protected one.
@andykay479
@andykay479 8 жыл бұрын
The over-charge and over-discharge voltages on these devices is of concern to me... they result in deep cycling which reduces the battery life. I don't know why I can't find something like this that will give me shallow cycling.
@Ziplock9000
@Ziplock9000 4 жыл бұрын
any luck?
@CristiIstrate
@CristiIstrate 8 жыл бұрын
Hi. I have a few 4056s and I see that they charge only up to 4.1v. Is ok ? I read that they must supply current up to 4.2V, mine stops charging at 4.1.
@MrBrymstond
@MrBrymstond 8 жыл бұрын
So you wire the unprotected batteries to the inside connections so they're protected, correct?
@consig1iere294
@consig1iere294 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Julian, I am planning to make a large power bank to charge my tablet. How many batteries and of what type can I add to this to be safe and get the optimum power. Thanks.
@kiskiller3
@kiskiller3 9 жыл бұрын
hey julian do you think it would be a problem if you parallel 2 of the charger board to get a faster charging ?
@rvduino5
@rvduino5 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to share how you setup your oscilloscope to trend data? Is that a special/optional feature or something I may be able to replicate on my scope?
@RoelNicky
@RoelNicky 9 жыл бұрын
i have a tp4056 without the battery protection, and it was overcharing my flat top batterys, now i know i have the wrong board for it nice video now i know wich one to buy for cells without the protection build inside the battery
@MrBrymstond
@MrBrymstond 8 жыл бұрын
@ 12:05 that's fine for charging but what about it when the unprotected battery is hooked up to a device and draws to much current and the voltage drops to low and you're running these in a series?
@madgoris
@madgoris 8 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of doing a project with several 18650 and corresponding number of tp4056 and a question came up. Hence the board is charging that one cell, after the charging is done could I connect 3S2P directly from Vout terminals on the board or will I just fry the board/cells/both? I'm thinking of creating a connector that separates the batteries while charging and of course while charging = NO load AND while load = NO charging.
@mgobluevictor
@mgobluevictor 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is a pretty old video, but how did you configure your scope to show the voltage like that? (Sort of a chart plotter function, for lack of a better description).
@karzygijose
@karzygijose 8 жыл бұрын
Now how about charging trough USB from a 18650 at more amps? how would one go about making a 10x18650 portable battery charger?
@madrian_hello
@madrian_hello 8 жыл бұрын
The load must be disconnected while charging?
@manusholm3536
@manusholm3536 5 жыл бұрын
can the discharge protection be changed on this ? mabe shut load of at 3v or 3.2v? and can it be made to controle high amp loads with difrent mosfet? mabe 5 or 6 amp
@wnkennedy
@wnkennedy 10 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have installed one of these in a tablet whose charging circuit was faulty. The battery now charges, yay! However when I run the tablet from the battery's power it cuts out after a short while. Any ideas what I've done wrong or what I should be doing? I'm a noob incase you couldn't tell.
@kcarmical
@kcarmical 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video. Do you know if this would be an acceptable charger for the newer Li-Iron Phosphate cells? They seem quite promising.
@roidroid
@roidroid 9 жыл бұрын
+Kevin Carmical no, the voltage is different.
@wooptoo
@wooptoo 7 жыл бұрын
Great review Julian! I see that the TP4056 has a TEMP pin. Have you tried connecting the TEMP pin to the third terminal (T) on a li-ion battery pack (like a phone battery) and test whether it works correctly? This would be extremely handy for creating safer devices.
@SocialWoodWorksTV
@SocialWoodWorksTV 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. Will this board charge a multiple cell pack? If so, what would I have to do to the board to achieve this? If not, what would I use to charge a multi-cell pack?
@camerontechstuffs
@camerontechstuffs 8 жыл бұрын
It depends, if you have all the batteries in parallel then it should work (depending on the amount of batteries). But if they were series the voltage would be too high.
@DanieleGiorgino
@DanieleGiorgino 10 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of re-purposing an e-cig battery, this is perfect. Thanks!
@AFRFB09BA
@AFRFB09BA 9 жыл бұрын
There are lithium batteries with and without protection circuit. Which one should I use with this charger?
@kirknelson156
@kirknelson156 9 жыл бұрын
have a project i'm working on and this seems like its just what i need. however what if your charge source doesn't put out 1 amp. i have a 6 volt solar cell that's suppose to be able to output 0.33A. I figure with a diode dropping 0.7 volts should be close enough to 5 volts not to damage it. buts thats just a guess. did yours come with a data sheet with details on input power?
@runefrederikhendriksen4018
@runefrederikhendriksen4018 7 жыл бұрын
so you can use the out+ and out- to use the battery at the same time it's charging?
@KelDG3
@KelDG3 7 жыл бұрын
Is there any way to make these chips cut the cell off at 3.3v rather than the very low 2.5v?
@leonardofogo
@leonardofogo 10 жыл бұрын
Hi man. Great video! I was wondering if I could use 2 of those to charger a S2 battery pack for a project of mine. Seen that each cell has its own individual charging wires. If not, what would you recommend to charge a 7.4v internal battery pack? I would like to use 5v as input as it is widely available and the charging circuit has to be inside my enclosure. I'm building a retro emulator to take around, and to carry a lipo battery unit defeats the point of mobility. Thanks ... Leo
@valerioguagnelliscanzani643
@valerioguagnelliscanzani643 7 жыл бұрын
this board protects the battery even from overcharging? can i keep ps constantly connected (like it's used for emergency light for instance)?
@thegreatfixer
@thegreatfixer 10 жыл бұрын
as you pointed out towards the end if i had a load and a battery on a TP4056 i could over charge the call so is not possible to us the TP4056 and a constant power supply and battery charger and the same time (i am looking to make always on light and have a built in battery back up and i was thinking of using a TP4056 any ideas) thank you
@HappyHermitt
@HappyHermitt 2 жыл бұрын
I want to build a solar charger using the tp4506. How can i protect the load circuit?
@jamest.5001
@jamest.5001 7 жыл бұрын
hello. do you have a idea of what I can use it charge 2-18650 cells. I want to use a buck converter to drop from the 12-24v or 10-15, or 20-30 approximate voltage. its a lighting system. that I want to charge from my off grid battery bank. I don't want to take the cells out to charge them. I want to either plug in and charge. or keep it plugged in. can you help me? I also need the same basic setup for a out door LED accent/ porch lighting. but its basically a battery backup deal I want to finish building. help if you can thanks
@KennethTanFotografie
@KennethTanFotografie 10 жыл бұрын
Julian, I have a test-setup with two 18650 in parallel. They charge fine, but the TP4056 gets pretty warm. Can I use it for parallel charging multiple 18650's? I'm guessing the max output remains 1A, and only the charging time will be multiplied by the number of batteries. Is that correct?
@KennethTanFotografie
@KennethTanFotografie 9 жыл бұрын
Kenneth Tan I've now been using these boards for over 7 months, they work fine, but of the 10 I've used, 2 burned out. In both cases the ML8205A mosfets overheated and I had to pull the batteries out of the charger. I could smell it burning. Both burnouts occurred on older boards. The latest boards I've bought, look the same, but have blue a blue status led if the board has finished charging. One burnout occurred @first use. The last one happened yesterday after over 100 charge cycles.
@BajanAlan
@BajanAlan 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Julian I tried to charge an 18650 backwards using new TP4056. Charger blew up but battery was ok. Also when replacing a cell in the charger it seems like you have to switch off charger for it to register.
@meoairanalytics
@meoairanalytics 8 жыл бұрын
+Julian Ilett Hi. I am looking to use 3.7V 18650 2600 mAh embedded for my project (device measuring parameters). When the device is connected to the power socket (thru 5V usb connector), it would recharge the battery as well as power the device (consuming 250 mA continuously). Once power socket is not connected, device would run from battery. What additional setup shoud I look for ? Thanks
@spicajames
@spicajames 8 жыл бұрын
+Julian Ilett Did you ever finish testing about the ~100mA load always connected while charging?
@thomasholland4313
@thomasholland4313 7 жыл бұрын
if you had a 14s li ion battery pack could you have 14 of theses hooked to each cell while also being hooked in series?
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Julian, did you ever check out what happens if you draw 100 mA while the battery is being charged?
@evanbarton4600
@evanbarton4600 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, when purchasing the new modules the seller said to disconnect the load while charging. In your experience is this necessary? Or can you safely run a device while the cell is charging?
@wrxsavvy
@wrxsavvy 8 жыл бұрын
Julian I got many of these for Bluetooth radios that I'm building and I'm charging a single cell 400mah lipo ( with 1s BMS) with it and I've noticed during charging I'm measuring 4.5 volts on direct battery connection. The 4056 reaches 110 deg F during charge. Could the separate 1s BMS on the lipo cause issues? Is 4.5v okay?
@davidvukovic
@davidvukovic 8 жыл бұрын
Julian, I would like to run a Tennsy with a temperature probe and a NFR24 wireless module. I would like to know how to figure how much battery and solar panel I need to run this setup. As the probes need to run 24/7 can the charge circuit run the tennsy and charge the battery at the same time, then switch to battery when the sun goes down? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
@andyboy189
@andyboy189 4 жыл бұрын
Strange - Question can I use the circuit with a protected battery? I ordered protected batts in error.
@randomized4836
@randomized4836 8 жыл бұрын
I just need to ask, if I had 2 lithium batteries in series connected to this charging module would it charge them both?
@obelawe2864
@obelawe2864 8 жыл бұрын
hi have you done vid on the TP4056 1.2A 5V Lithium Battery Charge / Discharge Protection Module
@vishwanathballurgi4443
@vishwanathballurgi4443 4 жыл бұрын
There are many videos of single cell charging. What about cell packings of 12 volts and more? It is requested to release these videos with circuit and load details.
@elvisrazem3189
@elvisrazem3189 5 жыл бұрын
Very useful. I haven t been sure about protection. so at 2 and something Volts disconnets the load
@foto1now
@foto1now 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Good video. Do you feel this board will be sufficient for a 26650/26700 high drain?
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