Julie Schumer Demonstrates How To Create Depth In Abstract Painting Using Flux and Obliteration

Julie Schumer demonstrates techniques to create depth in your abstract paintings. This video is a sample of Julie's workshop, "Exploring Mark Making"
Find out more about Julie's workshops at
julieschumer.com/online-courses
Transcript:
I'm going to show you the process of flux and obliteration, or veiling, as a way to create great depth in your paintings. We're going to go through this process of starting with marks and veiling-- putting more marks in, taking them out. It's an additive and subtractive process.
I’m just going to draw some random marks across this paper. I’m trying to vary my marks. You notice some of it's lighter some of it's darker-- just kind of until i feel like i want to stop. Then I’m going to take some of this Golden gel gloss with a clean palette knife and I’m going to fix some of these lines.
I’m just going to pick them randomly to to do that with and i don't care that this is all smeary that's perfectly all right it'll add to the depth of the painting later and also it's kind of fun just to scrape the pastel around and move your palette knife around. You're creating richness.
The next thing I’m going to do is take some matte medium in this little plastic container. I’m going to take some of that and a little water and I’m going to kind of just smear some of these other ones. This is going to add richness to the surface. It's also going to help set the lines a little bit.
This is all just intuitive and playing. Now I’m going to take some of my white paint and I’ve got a liquidy white paint here and I’ve got a stiffer white paint to work with both of them. I’m just going to start veiling over parts of it as is my whim leaving parts getting rid of parts. I’m going to grab my bondo knife and just take it and scrape over this area. I’ll take some of the more liquid paint and do that--you can see the difference between the liquid paint and the heavier body paint. There's not very much coverage at all but that can be something that you want. It gives new meaning to the word veil.
i think it's time to go back in with a drawing tool so I’m going to put this other stuff down and I’ll pick up my 9b lira water soluble crayon which i will dip in water and we'll make some more marks and it's just random i'm not thinking about it at all i've no concept of what this is going to wind up none i could also take this out and spray it with fixative but i don't want to do that but that would be another alternative if you wanted to fix some of the lines.
I'm feeling a little perhaps pastel in this area that might be interesting ultimately we'll cover up some of those now I’ll take up a brush again with white and I’ll use some of my heavy bodied white paint and you can already see we're getting different variations of gray to black to white just a little bit and like i say we're still in the random phase we don't know what's going on yet and we may not for a little bit of time.
We’re going to scrape some off that also helps move the line too so you can already get the sense of depth from this you've got lines appearing and disappearing you have a sense of three-dimensionality starting to develop.

[@RyanMusserYT]

The way you're talking through your process as you go was incredibly helpful. This is a great video, thank you!

[@julieschumer7182]

Glad you found it helpful!

[@annavernick1490]

wow, just fabulous. No sentimentality, love it!

[@julieschumer7182]

Glad you enjoyed it. Just do it!

[@georgemarklow4683]

Something I tried also is painting a plastic or paper bag black/white then pressing that against the canvas, either with a palm or scribble with the back of a pencil. I can get lots of interesting marks combined with doing all the great techniques I’ve learned from Julie here.

[@julieschumer7182]

Good idea!

[@kerryklaassen]

Thank you so much for this demonstration!!! Very helpful as I try to refine what I like and what I don't like, as I develop my own style of abstract painting.

[@julieschumer7182]

Exactly, keep developing and your own style will emerge!

[@jgrob64906]

Beautiful work Julie!

[@joannebeauchamp1169]

Good job, Julie! Your artwork is quite impressive!

[@julieschumer7182]

Thanks Joanne Glad you enjoyed the video and the work!

[@shirleykamala1797]

Love your way ...thanks😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@frankfolino3118]

Love it. ❤

[@julieschumer7182]

🤩🤩

[@julietugwell1280]

Wonderful

[@julieschumer7182]

Thanks, am glad you enjoyed it!

[@jomansson5742]

Great effect thank you

[@julieschumer7182]

You are welcome!

[@quiethawk9917]

Thank You ❤️

[@parkwayartspace9279]

You’re welcome 😊

[@pavololsavsky8188]

Very easy work.

[@julieschumer7182]

So what are you saying?

[@BabySoupify]

I agree. Very helpful

[@Trusid]

Julie, is that “matte medium” a gel or fluid? Thank you so much 🙏🏼

[@julieschumer7182]

It's a fluid. Both Golden and Liquitex have it in that form.

[@Trusid]

@@julieschumer7182 Much appreciated Julie. My artist friend, Dana Dion also recommended the Liquitex. The art store here in Sydney sold me an Australian brand of matt fluid “Derivan Matisse”.. apparently it’s more matte than the Liquitex. Thanks again for your response 😊

[@julieschumer7182]

@@Trusid I love Dana Dion's work! If you have tried those Matisse paints, let me know how you like them. There is a kind called Structure which is supposed to be extra thick like oil paint.

[@belllaudio.visual2167]

Olá, parabéns pelo seu empenho em ajudar e compartilhar suas experiências aqui no KZbin.

[@parkwayartspace9279]

You are welcome! I am glad you are enjoying the videos.

[@andreschampion5079]

When you’re creating something like this, where do you put your focal point?

[@julieschumer7182]

I don't necessarily have a place in mind when I start. It sort of evolves and then the painting tells me where the best place is to put emphasis.

[@ernarusyani9202]

💓

[@parkwayartspace9279]

Thanks!

[@armstronghawkins9183]

These are OIL pasteles with ACRYLIC medium ? you mention the "water soluble crayon" at one point but at the start... ?

[@user-wb8qi1tr4d]

It wasn't an oil pastel as I remember.

[@belllaudio.visual2167]

Nesse tipo de trabalho, qual o objetivo de riscar (fazer essas marcações) na superfície (tela) com carvão ou óleo pastel? Obrigado

[@parkwayartspace9279]

It's to add interest to the painting and depth if you layer over it and then make more marks.

[@AliBaba-ke5jn]

Hi. Is that charcoal?

[@julieschumer7182]

It's a graphite crayon made by Lyra. This one was a water soluble 9 B. It's a great tool, I encourage you to try it.

[@delsawyer8530]

You are correct in the fact that everyone has a right to like what the like. And also to have an opinion about what they like and don't like. Not everyone like my work. And when they don't I want to hear the different opinions. So... I also voice my opinions. And with that being said Its not this one particular artist. I just think abstract art isn't art. It's scribble.

[@delsawyer8530]

Look no human on earth can honestly look at his work and tell me what it is he painted

[@Mr20001]

🤡

[@awakeatdawnrae6456]

Where did you come from? 😲💜💯💯

[@parkwayartspace9279]

California if that's what you meant!

[@awakeatdawnrae6456]

@@parkwayartspace9279 that's not what I was saying exactly but more like where have you been in my experience?🤗 I love the method that you use in this and really enjoyed the video a lot! 💜✨👍

[@parkwayartspace9279]

@@awakeatdawnrae6456 Thanks, so glad you enjoyed it!

[@delsawyer8530]

Well as a response to you. Yes you are correct in the fact that one cannot compare these two different styles. As one is art and the other simply isn't. And I'm positive if you were to read my credentials I'm sure you would find out I'm not ignorant. If you tend to like and want to blow hard earned money on splatter paint then help yourself. I like the fine arts personally

[@Mr20001]

Your lack of fondness for something is not evidence of its (supposed) lack of quality. Just because you don’t like abstract art, does not mean it “isn’t art.” People have the right to like what they like. I find merit it all art forms, not just one. If you like fine art, stick to that but minimizing and berating another’s work is childish and says more about you than it does about them.

[@THESHIFTSQUAD]

Познакомьте уже бабушку с каким-нибудь дедушкой😊😅😂... 5:19

[@dees9502]

Plastic gloves? Are you a lunch lady or a painter? Get them nails dirty, yo! 😆

[@parkwayartspace9279]

Some days I do, depends on how many cuts I have on my hands!

[@delsawyer8530]

Well I've been painting hyper realism for 25 years. And as far as Pollock goes, he wasn't good, he just happened to run across a desperate and rich group of people who were willing to pay what he asked. It's more about their lack of common sense than his ability to paint.

[@julieschumer7182]

Not everybody likes hyperrealism. There is room for all of it in the world.

[@Mr20001]

That’s quite a tale! Pollock is known as a classic American artist. What are you known for?

[@edilmaosorio6865]

No entiendo q clase de técnica es, además en inglés,no entiendo nada de nada.

[@user-wb8qi1tr4d]

Lo siento!

[@user-dn6nb5ku9b]

What a dirty mess🙃🙃🙃

[@user-wb8qi1tr4d]

I guess you are not a fan of this method!

[@delsawyer8530]

Like I said before. It's business, not personal. I'm no Turner either. But at least I'm not on here teaching scribble and calling it an art lesson to adults

[@Mr20001]

Call it what you want, dumplin’. I guess you’re just not the audience for her videos or work 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@delsawyer8530]

It's like saying that a sound smells really good. It's impossible!!!!!!!

[@Mr20001]

More condescension? Tell us you’re miserable without telling us you’re miserable! 😂

[@delsawyer8530]

Lol I'm not miserable at all. I would just feel better waking up and seeing a lesson of at least some talent like shoe tying or hair brushing, because this isn't art

[@Mr20001]

Feel free to look elsewhere if you are not finding what you’re looking for here. KZbin has an endless source of art-related videos and information. Remember, not all art has to be some brilliant showcase of technique. Some paintings are intended to be simple and uncomplicated. That okay.

[@delsawyer8530]

This is for people who can't paint

[@Mr20001]

Who needs to paint when you can sit at your computer and tear others down?

[@delsawyer8530]

I beg to differ. I know a lot of 6 year olds that can scribble and smear paint on canvas

[@Mr20001]

There is a difference between scribbling/smearing paint and creating an intuitive abstract painting. There are other abstract artists here on YT for you to watch, yet, you hang around here? Also, it appears as though you do not know how to properly reply to other user’s comments, so you’re posting your responses as comments on the video 😂 Well done, Del. Well done.

[@delsawyer8530]

Well I look at it this way. If a 6 year old child can paint your work then it's not fine art. I don't many children painting a Turner, Rembrandt, .......

[@julieschumer7182]

A 6 year old can’t paint my work.

[@Mr20001]

First of all, Turner and Rembrandt were representational artists, not abstract artists. Representational art cannot be compared to abstract art, as they are two entirely different categories created with entirely different processes. There are also different kinds of abstract art, as well. A six year old child cannot paint intuitively and if you’re so ignorant to compare an experienced artist’s technique(s) to the “work” of a 6 year old, then perhaps you have a lot to learn about the subject of art and it’s “diversity”.

[@cindyoverall8139]

Did you know that the Vermeer exhibition in Amsterdam last year sold 450,000 tickets in two days. Vermeer was a real artist . This is mendacity.

[@CallmeHeath]

And Kandinsky? Rothko? Pollock? Where do they stand in your opinion?

[@Saperlipopette777]

Oui mais ici ce n'est pas le même art, on est là dans l'expressivité, le défoulement. L'art est multiformes, il n'y a pas de concurrence entre elles.

[@calvinundhobbesabgehts428]

Why?? Art is a living process, it's about the journey, not the result.

[@Mr20001]

Vermeer was a representational artist. Representational art cannot be compared to abstract art. They are two completely different categories, created from different places, using different processes. Anyone with a basic understanding of art and its “diversity” would know this this.

[@delsawyer8530]

Abstract isn't art!!!!!!!!

[@julieschumer7182]

Most of the world would disagree with you.

[@delsawyer8530]

@@julieschumer7182 maybe so, but most l artists wouldn't. I wasn't trying to be offensive, but never got how a painting that looks like a 2 yr old painted it and then omg at the titles they come up with. Lmao

[@delsawyer8530]

I can't fly a plane, therefore I don't call myself a pilot. I mean at least try to paint something someone can recognize is all I'm saying

[@lavendercottageflowerfarm3281]

Tell that to Pollock. One of his last paintings sold for 600 million. Pick up a brush and canvas and see how you do.

[@Mr20001]

Art is a very broad subject. Just because you don’t understand it does not mean that it “isn’t art”. There are plenty of artists that do various forms of art, including abstract. I used to do mostly sketching and scenery but now I do mainly abstract, as it is an entirely different creation process. There is great freedom and a lot to appreciate about the process of abstract painting, which one would not understand if they’ve never done it. Just because something looks simple, doesn’t mean it is.

[@Nancy-tr5fi]

Well each to their own, but not for me. Depth? Well you are a good salesmen. Though your vouce is very loud, distracting.

[@julieschumer7182]

Then don't watch it.