Jung & The Archetypes of Tarot - Card Meanings and Jung's Concept of The Self in Aion

[@ShannonBoschy]

Check out my ongoing "Tarot Tuesday" podcast/youtube series doing a Jungian deep-diving into the Tarot Arcana. kzbin.info/aero/PLeajSHHXrJ43teAInKaTahRJvqqU0xMc-

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[@zacharymekhi1224]

@Remington Easton definitely, I have been using Flixzone for since december myself =)

[@ShannonBoschy]

Hi Everybody, thanks for all your comments and views. I’m thrilled to announce that I’ve just completed the first draft of my book called, “Chasing Quicksilver.” I’m in final preparations to submit for publication. I believe it’s a breakthrough in the theory of personality and archetype. More announcements as we get closer to launch and more videos to come in October 2019!!! Be sure to subscribe for the latest!

[@psyfiles7351]

I def want to read!!

[@m.e.o.w.p.u.r.r]

The moment you tied the archetypes to tarot, EVERYTHING MADE SO MUCH SENSE. Thank you for this

[@rajahSufiji]

Your insight into The Lovers and The Devil starting at 17:00 is invaluable. Truly profound.

[@panntherapannthera4093]

I have just started working with the Tarot through Qabalah but already had a strong Jungian foundation. This video really bridges the gap between all of the "paths" we can travel in search of individuation. Great job on this and look forward to more.

[@BellaSoulJourney]

I just start to learn Tarot, it is so interesting to hear that you put Anima/ Animus, projection, personality, shadows, etc psychology ‘jargon’ into a so vivid explanation. 😄👍 Interesting perspective, connection, and amazing explanation!

[@ShannonBoschy]

Psychology (ie Psyche Logic) in Jung's mind was the science of the soul. In his era we were graduating past occult schools being the keepers of this knowledge and inventing new scientific languages to make it more acceptable. This means that the idea of demon (possession), then became "Mental illness" or neurosis within the new Jargon. Nothing really changed. Good luck on your Tarot Journey! It's a wonderful and rewarding one and stay tuned to this channel for Tarot Tuesdays

[@あいう-d5v]

I enjoyed and love what you told me here! Thank you!

[@mercykyallo8607]

Your combination of these ideas 💡 is perfect. I totally understood it.

[@ShannonBoschy]

Glad you enjoyed it! Be sure to check out my book preview (audio) at www.chasingquicksilver.com

[@JBroadway]

Amazing video of thank you for making!

[@Ilzeuzidira]

Thank You Shannon for This Video - it took me 2 hours to watch this - i took a lot of notes, and paused to think.. this is amazing, thanks for Sharing!!!

[@shezogirl]

Thank you, I'm a beginner w Tarot and I've absolutely loved this

[@luizvalle1226]

I enjoyed watching your video. Your knowledge of the Chariot card at 22:46 is pretty accurate and in-depth. Thank you.

[@curiousone6435]

Shannon, this was very interesting -- thank you so much! Tarot/astrology, physics, history, and psychology all intersect in a really cool way, and you bridged these gaps so well in this clip. My favorite card is High Priestess. If I had a request, I'd beg you to please unpack that card -- it is hard to pin down but I'd be interested in hearing an extended analysis.

[@ShannonBoschy]

Curious One send me an e-mail to [e-mail] and I’ll send you more (Fool, Magician, Priestess pt.2)... here is a link to part 1 of my priestess analysis and imho the deeper meaning of the card. Going to this depth on each card is a bit of an epic and I had to put it aside to finish writing my book. It’s on the list of goals to finish out a full set of videos on the psychic influence/meanings of all the majors at some point. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hputepuHZ6-ogcU

[@curiousone6435]

@@ShannonBoschy Thank you so much for your reply! I sent you an email -- I look forward to your forthcoming book! Cheers from Washington DC.

[@yootoob1001001]

Masculine and feminine are qualities and we all have both. It often gets projected in some situations outside ourselves and our concepts of the opposite gender, but it's also about energetic qualities. re: nature and nurture - while it can be argued that two children are born in the same family can be drastically different and we can call it nature (they were born that way), it could also be that the circumstances, energy, elements, emotional climate, etc., at the time of each birth were different and contributed to differences in the environment they first experienced, so IMO nature and nurture can be so deeply rooted and intertwined that they are hard to separate. This was a very interesting video (yes, I found it six years later!)---thank you. Very informative. Thank you.

[@jc.connor5882]

Thankyou for posting. Tricky concepts to grasp. Explained well.

[@imwillwin]

I learnt something about my shadow from watching your talk - how I project my shit onto others, and exactly what that shit is. So... thank you for that unexpected key to an aspect of myself.

[@ShannonBoschy]

Carl Jung. I've had that experience too, that's why I could talk about it.

[@donnellallan]

This integration of various systems is just what I have been looking for. I will be returning to this video again. Thank you!

[@andral5220]

thank you, it's beautiful how you made the connections

[@psyfiles7351]

This is so great thank you. I agree with your idea about the gender fluid “inner nemesis”. Sexuality and gender relations had to be so odd back then, sneaking into even Jung’s transcendent mind

[@sarahskinner4151]

Love what you said about the lovers and the devil!

[@ushaponnusamy6708]

Quite interesting to know about the psychological aspects of souls journey. Narration is sincere and deep showing light on the darker aspects that are vague and complicated. Namaste 😊🙏💐

[@pdub7352]

Insightfully explained; thank you, Mr. Douglas! To me, the true value of Jungian psychology is that it assumes you to be an "integrated self" from the outset, as opposed to inviting you to identify perpetually with base consciousness. I think Jung understood that 'science' is "the fool's microscope", or, "the pubertal analysis of what Philosophy and Religion have known all along". "The present eye praises that which is new though it be only gilded dust, rather than praising the ancient gold that is only dusty" ...Irony too is kin to nature. (if I may paraphrase Shakespeare)

[@Syndi369]

Thanks for sharing your insight. I believe also as a reference to Joseph Campbell and the heroes journey which in hindsight is alot like The Fools journey beautifully depicted in the raider Waite tarot deck. Thanks for posting! I found it really enjoyable. Keep going!!!

[@LucisFerre1]

It's interesting that we can pair up the magician and the high priestess, and then the emperor and emperess and have the heirophant stand alone, OR we can have the magician stand alone, then pair up the high priestess and heirophant (pope and papess) and then the emperor and emperess. The two pairs, being four is important since in occult knowledge, 4 represents "worldly" things; 4 cardinal directions, 4 physical elements, etc. it's love and then the chariot that carries us to the upper levels of spirital expansion. It's this lower level, rulled by the soul of appetite, or Eros in Greek, that is concerned with worldly aquisition of power. The two main conduits of temporal power are government and organized religion, hence the 4 cards in the lower 7 card level.

[@flowflips3172]

Sounds cool but the Heirophant represents institution also. Makes sense for it to stand alone in my opinion.

[@flowflips3172]

So High priestest wont mean intuition? And be pair to wordly things?

[@mana_bg1987]

Thank you for this insight. 💜

[@missm4731]

Absolutely fascinating. Thank you!

[@terencedrakes5291]

I'm very much appreciative of this kind of thinking, to attach the spiritual to the psychological is - in my opinion - the right direction to go in. I was a little disappointed in your omission of the Black and White Sphinxes in connection to Major Arcana VII and the subsequent analysis of Egypto-Roman iconography that could have entered the dialogue. I'm sure that it was just an innocent oversight but it is these errors that are impede us from widening our viewership because of what seems to be a lack of inclusion and a historical consciousness that Jung and Campbell themselves may have frowned upon. Other than that keep up the great work my brother, I learned a lot from you today and I hope to see more of your contributions in the near future. Thanks Again!

[@ShannonBoschy]

Terence Drakes Thank you for your feedback. As it happens I’m working on some unifying connections in the roots of Egyptian stories and worldview and I’ve tracked their influence in North Africa and into the new world. Those modern expressions of spiritual knowledge are some of the most important structures and processes for connecting to our Creator that we have. I was explicitly told by an Indigenous Medicine Man from Turtle Island, after my long journey, to leave the Red Road and to seek my own forgotten traditions as an initiated warrior of the white nation. My brothers were and are Red Nation, Black Nation, Yellow Nation and White Nation. I will share that medicine with you if you will share yours with me

[@Baruzuland]

Great video! Thanks so much for that. Blessings to you on your journey

[@ShannonBoschy]

Thank you, this last year has been full of breakthroughs and incredible opportunities. Planning a new series of videos/podcasts starting mid October to support my coming book: "chasing quicksilver". Stay tuned!

[@traianciurtin6840]

beautifully explained !

[@beccad6135]

Thank you for sharing! Very insightful

[@mrwebbofficial]

I used to think that the Rider Wait take on the lovers was something ancient and deep. But then I realized that earlier tarot decks had no such symbolism. For instance the marseilles tarot deck, which is quite a bit older than the rider Waite, the man looks at the woman but the woman looks at the ground, while Cupid is above then pointing an arrow at her. I think unfortunately the Rider wait deck just made up their own version to fit their own Golden Dawn ideas. It’s not original. Tarot was pretty much just a rich persons card game until like the 1800’s when all of the occult orders started making their own magical orders that they claimed were ancient hermetic Atlantian Egyptian ideas, but the fact was they made all this shit up. I still have several decks of Tarot and love to give readings, but I’m under no illusion that this is some ancient occult knowledge. Once you start to do real research on Tarot history you find out that It’s all pretty modern.

[@ShannonBoschy]

there's a funny line of distinction there. I agree with your historical analysis and that there was a lot of confabulation in the occult revival period. Like lots of cults, the secret societies of the 1800s claimed authority from ancient sources (real and imagined perhaps) and so it makes it hard to attribute the cosmological and psychic models. WRT the Lovers card and it's structure, I think the trinity structure can be seen in many traditions as the world above, the world in the middle and the world below. The Hermetic/Alchemical history (predating the renaissance) portrayed and conveyed this structure, giving Mercury/Hermes/Thoth the description as the only diety to be able to transit all three levels. Conscious/Unconscious/Superconscious. What I am getting at here is that I accept that the cards are not magic. In many cases though they act as memory keys and code information that is much older than the cards themselves. Quite True, older cards don't carry some of the nuance of the RWS, and to me this makes the whole history that much more interesting thanks for taking the time to comment and share your perspective!

[@mrwebbofficial]

@@ShannonBoschy thank you for your reply and your further insight. I just thought about this that Hermes is also a trickster god. Which makes me wonder how much of this whole thing might be some cosmological trick. Lol

[@billyg720]

Thank you for what you do. You helped me put an other piece in into my puzzle...

[@georgexm2032]

mbti? Intp?

[@pinnaclepottery635]

Thank you for your response. And I am just basing my lineup of archetypal interpretation on the history of Tarot and how it has been used in divination since the 1600’s. Book upon book will tell you what I expressed. And everything is up to readers interpretation of course. Some read reversals and some do not. Some readers just use the majors and others just the minors. So it a personal choice. Have you read Sally Nichols book on Jung and the Tarot? It’s informative. Best regards, Pam

[@3vanguardofthephoenix335]

I find a lot of insight in reversals

[@toolboxforthesoul9602]

Love your work.

[@BethSpary]

Great video!

[@IWantYoutoBeHappy4Ever]

I love Tarot and Jung. Interesting take on this!

[@thestuffedvegan9471]

Massively helpful thank you.

[@handlehandlehandle]

Thanks for putting this together. I've heard a lot in bits about pieces about Jung and curious about his ideas but it's tough to know where to start. Videos like this help :)

[@georgesantana5457]

How about a 'mystery of the Cathedriles' tarot? I'd,buy it in no time and extras for others.😮

[@noelleross80]

I found it interested that you used the word "chained" to it (Unconscious) Maybe because I am a hypnotist and just looking into tarot (and impressed with the usefulness in understanding balance in life) (I was unaware) Unconscious is more like superconscious in my model.

[@lindawilliams5062]

Fantastic, very informative, thankyou x

[@paisleypeacock]

*Divine interpretations*

[@makeitseventoday]

Thank you so much. It was very clear and I feel like I understood it well.

[@donkeykonguk]

Great video, thanks!

[@kutesykate]

Thank you for this! I've been looking for a good video on Jung and the tarot for a long time. You put together a really well thought out and fascinating treatise. Personally, I like to be a little more open to interpretation when it comes to card symbolism- I'm working on a deck right now and have come to some interpretations that differ from yours but that doesn't mean that either is better, and I don't believe it's an indication that the artist hasn't studied their tarot :)

[@ShannonBoschy]

kutesykate I’ve seen some fascinating interpretations in various versions and interpretations of decks and if I was creating my own there are a few things I would incorporate myself. What I know from my esoteric study of the deck is that while in divination there is definitely free-flowing interpretation and intuition that plays into a reading, there are definitely deeper truths that the cards contain from a self-development and Hermetic POV that were encoded deliberately in decks of the occult revival period that have been lost in artistic iterations of the deck. I have definitely seen many heartfelt and well-intended decks that demonstrate the level of understanding of the artist and creator. I can’t imagine the daunting task of creating a deck and catching all of the nuance and depth of the arcana like the RWS.

[@mariannes5464]

Loved this video, thank you! At the end you refer to another one for deeper explanation of the daemon animal side kick? could you share a link here?

[@ShannonBoschy]

I looked through my other videos and I'm not sure I got to creating the one about personal guardians. One of the books that stimulated my thinking and my practice around this idea is by Max Freedom Long, whose cosmology I find a bit stretched (Hawaiian Shamanism predating and influencing or co-mingling with the pyramid cultures of Egypt... but his work on the unconscious mind and working with and training our personal ally makes a ton of sense to me (and is reflected in classical Greek metaphysics of the personal Daemon)

[@misteriosydioses]

Great explanations, thank you.

[@TheAlcheMaze]

I've always seen the magician as a representation of a baby getting to know how to navigate in the outer world and the high priestess as a baby learning about and beginning to know the inner world. Next, the empress and emperor as the first social contacts with the mother and father; also, the development of the anima/animus/complexes. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. BTW, I love your content and spoke to you about an ouroboros vision I had while meditating. I finally uploaded several videos that you might find interesting. I discuss the vision and a system I developed for self-analysis, using the tarot, I Ching, and Jungian concepts. Thanks again!

[@ShannonBoschy]

I think you're bang on wrt Tarot at this level of analysis. The Ouroboros is one of my favorite symbols and totems. It has layers and layers of meaning just like the tarot does. I'll check out your video... all the best!

[@clairegainard6850]

I agree but I see magician and high priestess as teenagers, male and female but not mother and father but they are about fertility and knowledge but not birth or formed parents.

[@Gelameable]

Thank you Shannon helpful:)

[@ShannonBoschy]

thanks for the follow!

[@inmaculadaconcepcion1600]

Thank 🌷🌻🌹✨💓✨🙏🏽

[@jesustarot6340]

Please get a check up. (Digestive & cardiac) I mean, no need for alarm but everyone around your age should.

[@ShannonBoschy]

thanks for the message!

[@FreemanPresson]

This is very good. It does make me twitch a little bit when you use Self where Jung would have said Psyche.

[@LucisFerre1]

The hero's journey is built into the fool's journey. The hermit is the contemplating sage, the wheel of fortune is internal change and random chance, the hanging man is struggle, i.e. Odin hanging himself on the tree of Yggdrasil, or the tree of the nine worlds, sacrificing himself to himself to gain the secret knowledge of the runes (so he can (cast) "spells" with the runes), and practice the feminine magical discipline of seidr. He dies in the process (death card) or rather his old self dies away in the transformation, his soul realizes it's trappings and attachments (devil card), breaks the chains that bind him (tower card), emerges again, but confused (star card and moon card), starts to see clearly in his new paradigm (sun card), the sun and moon cards, being the marriage of opposites, give birth to new creation (judgement/resurection card) and then to enlightement/magnum opus/philosopher's stone, (world card) ("spirit of the world" or anima mundi).

[@ShannonBoschy]

Everyone who reads tarot, reads it as a reflection of their own unconscious, that is, as reflection of their own beliefs and values and their depth of symbolic language and wisdom. Readers get to play ego games too if they want to about what "The correct" interpretations of Tarot are - there's a card for that. There are dozens of significant interpretations of Tarot since the RWS and several different schools of thought in Europe about Tarocchi prior to that, and all of those schools influence adepts today. I would never lay claim to "The Right" interpretation of Tarot. Facts, however, are not debatable. The Hero's Journey is not built on The Fools journey as you say. Joseph Campbell (who coined the phase Hero's Journey) uses the term to describe the global mono-myth - because the story he is describing is the same narrative arc in all cultures through all time on earth and it's about coming of age. Tarot did not come first. Tarot is an example of a story told in the framework of the global mono-myth.

[@SlackKeyPaddy]

The male (self consciousness) is veiled from the female (subconscious mind) by the clouds. The female (subconscious mind) has direct contact with the Angel (superconsciousness) while the male (self consciousness mind) does not have direct contact with Super Conscious but has to channel the Super Conscious mind through the subconscious mind.

[@jasonshapiro9469]

I was very sick and torturing myself. The only reason i didnt kill myself is because that would of been a mercy. Tarot was how i healed myself. From having to learn and memorize the card meanings, to then getting in touch with my creativity, to then examining my feelings and actions it showed me a path out of the abyss my ego was lost in. Ive never used the cards for divination, only for self examination, which brings me confidence and gives me a sense of purpose

[@tewtravelers9586]

I've wondered if the magician is like a baby starting to manipulate the material world, but still in the phase of transitioning from heaven to Earth.

[@LucisFerre1]

Yes, you are right. The magician in the Marseille deck is a street hustler. The Magician, being the lowest in the progressing trump parade/triumphi, is a practitioner of low magic, or magic for worldly gain and power acquisition rather than for spiritual expansion. (We don't count the fool, who is a game piece, so to speak, not part of the triumphi itself).

[@FreemanPresson]

We cycle through the Archetypes throughout life, but seeing them as stages of child development is a very clear instance.

[@Queenie-the-genie]

If the fool had everything he needs to go over the cliff it would include a parachute no? Maybe it is his innocence and naivety that can save him and that is his parachute. Is the cliff actually representative of death which is inevitable for us all from the day we are conceived? If he steps off that cliff he IS going to crash unless there is a nice deep pond below him and he is a good swimmer and it is a warm day or their are some kind strangers or friends down there who will catch him in a nice soft net. Something like that. Let's hope for the best. Stuff like that does happen when we behave foolishly esp. when we are young. I can think of numerous things that might have caused me great injury and suffering due to stupid decisions I made but for the kindness of friends and strangers alike. Thanks for making me think about this. 💛

[@ShannonBoschy]

Kate White if we only had a parachute stepping into the unknown. That’s the conundrum. The Fool represents birth as well as death. It’s about moving from one state of Being to the next. We can see some of this archetype in the story of Psyche and Cupid. Psyche as an innocent girl, is visited by Cupid (Eros) at night over and over. This is the experience of moving from childhood to adulthood (fertility and sexual awakening). These kinds of cliffs might have a pool of water at the bottom, or they just might be one-way gates which we travel through, leaving the old ways of being behind and experiencing new worlds as we evolve and grow.

[@siftubes]

Wait.. was the Jungian archetype never associated with the tarot since it's inception? I thought the tarrot was explicitly designed to express archetypal ideas to begin with?

[@ShannonBoschy]

A couple things: Tarot originated in the early 1300s. Carl Jung coined the word Archetype and developed his ideas around the study of them in the early 20th century. But this is a semantic distinction. Also in the early part of the 20th century, Tarot was Re-imagined via the Order of the Golden Dawn and the work of A.E. Waite. It consolidated influences of the major western occult traditions into what we know as the modern Tarot. Furthermore, what we call Archetypes are universal. They are found in all religions and cultures and in what we call myths, so creating any work, including modern movies movies with universal themes and character types, Star Wars being a specific Example, involves the use of Archetypes; explicit in the case of Star Wars, implicit in most others. This is a great question, thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!

[@siftubes]

@@ShannonBoschy Thank you for the clarification! I thoroughly enjoy your in-depth analysis of the tarot and its relevance to our modern understanding of the human condition. God bless you! (or may the Heirophant illuminate your path 😉)

[@Stonefactor]

On point.

[@user82938]

Interesting video, but there's a horrible noise in the background that melted my brain.

[@DJSTOEK]

💘

[@gypsysnickerdoodle4354]

I love how everyone ‘corrects’ everybody else with Absolutist language about a totally symbolic, personal set of imagery tools. FFS

[@161157gor]

Goats Head Soup. The Symbolic Life Flirting in the Shadows...

[@narancauk]

At the bginning Hmmm ah hm ....A then Mozart

[@danielm978]

The Tarot is based on archetypes, archetypes has been for all times, Carl Jung didnt borrow from tarot.

[@ShannonBoschy]

That’s a weak semantic argument. One neither informed by a knowledge of Tarot apparently nor a knowledge of Jung. Jung borrowed substantially from other attempts at explaining archetypes. It’s well documented that he coined the term Archetypes in its sense of being a collective or universal pattern based on his studies of Platonic Forms. He borrowed his work on personality types from the classical four elements and the medieval four humours and he did absolutely borrow his structure for the book Aion from the structure of Tarot - which he studied and lectured on in the early 1930s. Tarot, if we’re speaking of archetypes and making weak semantic arguments, well predates the modern definition of Archetypes, and demonstrably existed before the word archetype was ever invented so it is senseless to say Tarot is based on Archetypes. I’m happy to debate further if you want to spar, and thanks for caring enough to share your comment.

[@danielm978]

@@ShannonBoschy thanks for taking your time to reply Shannon, i can hear you are well informed about both the Tarot and Jung, both in which i am very interrested in, but obviously dont know enough of yet, the comment i made was a weak comment i agree, i am not shy of learning new things or to listen to people who know more than i. I am a subcriber on your channel from know on. Hope in the future you will reply with the same vigor to statements or question i might ask. Best regards

[@pinnaclepottery635]

Oh Shannon, you have little knowledge of the hero's journey in regards to Tarot. The Magician is traditionaly representitive of consciousness and the high priestess as what is unknown, the unconscious. . And the Empress is mother, the emperor the masculine energy. This is as far as I could get with your video. Look deeper if you are really interested in this subject. Also the Waite deck is late to the party and Junge would not have been looking at this deck.. Want to get the a better symbolic understanding , you should be looking a the Marsielle deck and doing some research. I am a Jungian and have studied the Tarot for years and I find it unfortunate when people speak on a subject that they have only skimmed the surface.

[@ShannonBoschy]

Dear Pinnacle, thank you for caring enough to share your opinion. Just to be clear, I drew symbolic and structural parallels between the archetypes of tarot and Jung’s explanation of “The Self” in his book “Aion”. I may have used “Hero’s Journey” at some point in the ad hoc exploration of an idea but this is specifically about the parallels between tarot and Aion which I believe to be true. If there is anything I have learned about Archetypes, including the ones in tarot, is that they are living things in the sense that our relationship to them organically evolved along with our maturity and our understanding and how those archetypes play out in our lives. Our interpretations will always evolve over time as opposed to being set in stone and so I really am not interested in playing “I’m right” games with people who don’t see this. I do not make any claims set-in-stone or suggest that my interpretations are right and someone else’s are wrong. I also do not claim that Jung based his book or his models of Self on Tarot. We know he was a student of alchemy, astrology, mediumship and various other schools of esoteric thought. Where we are talking about Archetype we can always expect that when we get to higher orders and levels of analysis that we will find parallels. Having been a student of many of the schools of esoteric that Jung was, I also know that I learn as much from things that trigger a negative response in me or that I disagree with as I do from things that enchant me. In that respect, Thank you, and you’re welcome.

[@sandradollar9644]

What is that awful buzz that begins around minute 20 and grows increasingly loud and annoying? I wanted to hear this entire video, but could not focus on the content with that noise drilling into my ears.

[@iggycrow]

'Latent homosexuallity'!

[@ShannonBoschy]

interesting take, not sure I get your meaning

[@LucisFerre1]

Its pronounced Yoong.

[@ShannonBoschy]

The path off the Arcana that I've laid out in this analysis correlating to Jung's model of The Self, as described in Aion , is perfectly consistent. Of course, you're free to criticize me or Yoong if you like. I find your isolation of the magician interesting; and your integration of the Heirophant into the parings of The Arcana prior to 6 make me curious. I'm concerned with your pairings about knock-on effect in the next turn of the wheel. It could make complete sense in another context - but not This One - not as it related to Jung's model of "The Self." The beauty of tarot is I can read the Majors on a completely different layer three times a week than the one I did in this video, and each would still be valuable as a perspective. Interpretation, as you are most surely aware also depends on who you're reading/teaching. Each deck and every artist has a different tone.... So I appreciate your firm stand but I disagree with your interpretation in this case. Jung devotes an entire chapter in Aion to The Syzygy; which correspond directly to the identity of and relationship between the Emperor and the Empress. Next time I open to my Tarot I'll think about how you suggest to interpret the cards in question, I give it some thought.

[@duellingdescartes7950]

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