Jurassic Park Operation Genesis VS Jurassic World Evolution - Review and Comparison

[@pyrrhusofepirus8491]

I definitely prefer the JPOG hunting system, often carnivores being able to kill herbivores every time doesn't work, like real animals, carnivores often won't be able to catch prey, they often fail and have to try again. I also liked how if they failed a charge they'd be tired and breath, basically hunting was exciting, it was a 40 percent chance that the carnivore would be able to kill it and it was really exciting. So it would feel sad when they leave defeated. In JWE they are always going to take out a hadrosaur, always, It isn't exciting because you know what's going to happen, I think they need to change the hunting system, similar to JPOG

[@erideb3864]

So true dude

[@erideb3864]

And to mention a lone velociraptor single handedly take down a fuckin parasaurolophus like it was nothing. Unrealistic as fuck. How does a small carnivore take down a large herbivore that can easily crush it to death

[@Dektoonics_inc.]

@@erideb3864 that would be too hard for poor frontier developments

[@alexandracorrea803]

@@Dektoonics_inc. EXCUSE ME!!!!!! WEVE SEEN IT ONCE, WE CAN SEE IT *AGAIN!!!*

[@jwn5]

Really miss the old raptors... I never thought id say that about those little bastards....

[@SuperRegic]

I am so salty that triceratops went from a beautiful five star attraction in jpog to one of the lowest tier dinosaurs that you practically get right away in jwe, also one of these days someone's going to need to give good ol' trikey a proper bellow, in jwe she just sounds old and tired.

[@thexplodenator3007]

SuperRegic I know! Triceratops is my favorite dinosaur, but in JWE it’s a complete wimp. I modified it rarely has any chance at winning a single fight. I’ve only had one case of a Trike winning a fair fight in my entire history of playing the game. This animal took on Tyrannosaurus for goodness sakes!

[@Captianmex1C0]

Edit the Genome, obviously people would be more excited to see a carnivore than a herbivore, Think of it like seeing the Rhino and the Tiger at a zoo

[@juanyusee8197]

They should have made Torosaurus the low-tier ceratopsid, since in JWE it is currently useless

[@themightypars4453]

Juan Yu See toro is more colour full that’s why I use it

[@grumpyguy112]

@@thexplodenator3007 They must of patched it because my escaped Spinosaurus tried to eat my Trike & he wasnt gonna take his crap & rammed him to death.

[@themysteriousstrangerthatd8508]

I miss when games had a ton of crazy cheats.

[@arcrisgonzaga7324]

Same,at least the GTA series still has cheats...

[@akaunderdog4223]

Big head on Tony hawk! Totally useless but funny nonetheless

[@venividivici6738]

Meh

[@TeoCRO]

Well, you got it right. Velociraptor skins are now paid DLC

[@themightypars4453]

Only 1 pound

[@pedrofromrio645]

I was about to say. This man predicted the future

[@deadeye4047]

Absolutely worth it.

[@the_grey_phoenix]

Not if you got complete edition although complete edition is more quantity than quality

[@CdrChaos]

Considering they gave the game away for free you can’t be that upset over micro transactions.

[@joyempire462]

"Twisters are rare" Just played it for the first time and in 10 minutes got a twister that killed every visitor and dinosaur of mine

[@OnlyVuimo]

I got two twisters before I even reached one star, maybe you are more likely to get a twister if you just started playing for the first time.

[@DEAD_ACCOUNT0000]

Fact: A twister occurs usually only once and the only time it’s scripted is in early game of any play through to get players used to setbacks and they will eventually know how to properly deal with them as they approach. This is done by declaring emergency and building visitor shelters.

[@Oueenazolatigressgina]

@@DEAD_ACCOUNT0000 that's actually a pretty neat feature in my opinion

[@SRGIProductions]

Yup. Pretty much MY first playthrough.

[@_PhamBaoDuy-tt2os]

Twisters are RNG there will be time just like you said, there will be time it won't triggered till 4 or 3.5 stars. Sometime it wouldn't even a thing till you reach the goal of 5 stars.

[@VierthalerStudios]

I love how the Jurassic Park franchise has exposed me to dinosaurs that I’ve never even heard of and gain an appreciation for them. That even happened with me and JPOG. Even JWE is now doing that.

[@grumpyguy112]

The series & going to museums as a kid made me a lifelong lover of Paleontology & Cryptozoology Not unlike Dr Grant.

[@lebronthegoat3670]

I had no idea what a chasmosaurus was

[@Cal-qx1gm]

Had no idea what proceratasaurus was

[@gabrielvitor-pj5hh]

I had no ideia what a Atrociraptor was.

[@andrewrivera190]

Albertosaurus was actually my favorite JPOG carnivore....... I don't know why. It was always just fun to have a pair of them in an exhibit.

[@protodominichusplay]

Till they're panicking....... *Rawwrrr*

[@hunormagyar1843]

Haha I love their earrape roars 😂

[@callusklaus2413]

I love how they move, they seem so fluid, it works really well for what I imagine a medium size carnivore would act like.

[@cultofmalgus1310]

Ceratosaurus is my favorite carnivore but in JPOG they were terrible.

[@Mythical12-b6w]

I love JWE's albertosaur I really don't know why xDDD

[@fuzzycatfur2008]

"Why is Dilophosaurus in Chinnnnnaaaaaa" Hahahaha

[@galaxymaster]

They ate him

[@thescauldron8436]

sjdsjhsd yeah. I think it's like the Parasaurolophus replacing Charonosaurus in the game. It's meant to be Sinosaurus, which was at first thought to be a Dilo instead of a close relative.

[@mariaagustinaferrero2333]

1:28:59

[@thexplodenator3007]

I read that they Trump says China

[@TheRoguePrince0]

I wish jurassic park operation genesis was on steam but its not so its a pirate's life for me.

[@Ikasnu]

Hey ho hey ho!

[@mlgodzilla4206]

Commander Shepard good on ya,Landlubber

[@TheLaughBreaker]

I'm trying to play it on my emulator for the ps2 but it's either set the setting for graphical errors or audio errors

[@odinthegenericproto7075]

Sad times

[@zykster7365]

Dio Brando you can get the pc version on my abandon ware

[@maestro-zq8gu]

One thing I loved about JPOG was letting herbavores wander among guests. Some guests loved it and some ran in terror so while it wasn't something the game told you to do, it was still very doable.

[@picollojr9009]

Thing is to keep cameras and Shelters nearby for Visitors to feel safe

[@PaxtheDreamer]

I know you said these analysis videos aren't going to be very often on your part, but I'm already looking forward to the next one. This is EXACTLY my taste in game analysis, one where your passion is clearly seen and you make me care about a game I never heard about simply because YOU care so damn much.

[@deliriouskhajiit8715]

On the PS2 version, I remember you can only get 3 dig sites.

[@internetdinosaur8810]

Thats even worse wtf

[@BarcelonaBlitzer]

Xbox you get 5 sites

[@randyramirez4408]

PC you got them all

[@uwlwsrpm]

I love how the JWE tornado is happening during a seemingly cloudless and full moon night.

[@akaunderdog4223]

1) 8:10 This limitation is on purpose, for replayability. 2) 11:30 I thought only console version had that resolution for guests .... 3) 12:45 "Lack" of bathrooms is the result of you having too many pathways next to eachother, thus the AI doesnt recognize that as a path towards the same direction. So you have guests spending time in your park not going from A to B, but around the same place - if that makes any sense. 4) 24:55 Regarding dinosaurs, you forgot to add that having dinosaurs from same time period in same enclosures affect Dino Nerd's score. Same goes for having real trees and not having feeders. Everything else you said on Operation Genesis is spot-on. I used to play that game a lot. nostalgia 😊

[@king_crossbreed7810]

Probably one of my favorite Jurassic World Evolution/ Operation Genesis, I really do hope they add moding because I’ve seen some AMAZING fan made models for the game.

[@fuzzycatfur2008]

Chances are no because Universal was interfering with the development of JWE, and they said no to mods cause they were afraid of people modding in copyrighted material, leaving them liable

[@billnyethesciencefry2898]

fuzzycatfur2008 mods were released actually, watch the gaming beaver’s JWE modded battle royale

[@mlgodzilla4206]

I am from the future,modding the models is possible

[@Mamotherium]

@@fuzzycatfur2008 Lol, say that to the brachiosaurus garfield mod

[@cookiesnugglez7318]

Now they do have modding, just had a breakthrough that you are able to put a completely new dino in without replacing an old one

[@danh5977]

You deserve much more credit. Thought I was watching a top channel🔥

[@lukee7182]

Ever since this video was posted frontier added: Return To Jurassic Park with all the JP trilogy skins(Well most) Raptot squad skin pack Dinosaur packs with 3 dinosaurs each DLCs with new campaigns, new missions, new characters and loads of new dinosaurs Terrain tools Singular trees, Redwoods and rocks More hybrids(From the Dr.Wu dlc) 6 new islands/building areas(Nublar 1993, Sorna 1993, Sanctuary, Nublar North, Tocano Research Facility, Muerta East) Challenge mode and sandbox on all islands Some dinosaurs have been given unique animations(Nasutoceratops, Tyrannosaurus Rex, Ourannosaurus, Compsognathus, Homalocephalae, Herrerasaurus Etc.) New buildings(Greenhouse, Jurassic Park buildings, Aviary in both eras, off the grid buildings) Now Rangers and Acu can both tranquilise, Medicate and shoot flares Your jeeps can get destroyed by dinosaurs and you have to buy a new one And more

[@adhamwashere5320]

I'm surprised i was able to beat the amazing maze mission when i was like 12. It was still frustrating. You shoot the beacons and the carnivores first and then muster.

[@redslate]

Wait... You could shoot the beacons? Hahaha! I may have made that mission much harder on myself.

[@juanyusee8197]

Shooting the beacons is the easy bit for me. The muster? Dear lord...

[@motomoto3051]

JPOG>JWE. That could always be nostalgia though.

[@fuzzycatfur2008]

Trust me, it isn't nostalgia.

[@zbor44]

fuzzycatfur2008 you = wrong

[@Dektoonics_inc.]

@@zbor44 how exactly

[@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676]

Nothing wrong with nostalgia. It makes the game better.

[@taliesincoleman6569]

@@fuzzycatfur2008 yes it is. at least partially.

[@ryzzmac]

Its actually pretty cool how so many of the problems he lists here have been taken care of for JWE. Shows that the devs do listen to their fans somewhat. Id love it if he did a followup.

[@dinolover]

Yeah and now JWE is a micromanage shitshow that makes you focus more on your staff than DINOSAURS, ya know. The point of the park?

[@tylerleach8796]

I really hope you do an updated version of this, since with patches and DLC, there is SO much more content in JWE to talk about.

[@Mamotherium]

And oh, you think mountains are pointless? Let me stop you there Mountains can be used as permanent and indestructible fencing and they can look good when you shape it with flattened option

[@cryobk3540]

53:23 Nailed it on the money with this one

[@Sqdlow]

10:26 Cheat for money? Lmaoo The Limitations was there because the game was on PS2 and Xbox unfortunately. I had this game on Xbox and it played really well I thought. In fact, the sensitivity was never an issue. I think JPOG was a console game first, and a PC port after. I always felt JWE had such lifeless UI and aesthetics, it lacks heart JPOG had. The soundtrack was really nice in JPOG too

[@kiryuthedragonwarrior2746]

Hmm I disagree

[@SPAMsammiches]

Agree on the "open all gates" being the only sabotage that matters. I learned a valuable lesson a couple days back when I had made my gates a little too convenient for my jeeps, making them also super convenient for a pair of heavily upgraded Ceratosaurs to roll right into an enclosure full of med/lg herbivores. They killed all 12 dinosaurs in the enclosure in the blink of an eye. They also seem to have added something so that dinos, especially carnos, actively make a break for any breach in a fence, regardless of whether they are agitated. I've only seen the "open all gates" situation once, but it was a helluva thing. I have to admit, though, it was very fun, and I was running a near 5-star park with about $250M in the bank at the time, so it didn't matter anyway. :) Great vid! I never did get to play Operation Genesis, but have really enjoyed Evolution so far (a week in).

[@fuzzycatfur2008]

Man I may've fallen hard for the JWE hype train and bought 6 copies, digital deluxe for all 3 platforms, 1 disc copy for Xbox, and gifted 2 copies to my friends on steam, I would put ALL that money for backwards compatibility, not even a remaster, JPOG drawfs JWE that much. JPOG, guests are actually guests, and although the AI might lack, it's leaps and bounds better than the "guests" that JWE has that're damn near nothing more than static images unless a dinosaur eats them, hell not even a twister makes them to anything, they just walk through it like they're a herd of smug bastards, and the animations on them? JPOG: Guests are seen entering buildings with animation, seen ordering food or gifts from the toy shop or fleeing to the emergency shelters, JWE? Clipping through doors to enter buildings, clipping through each other, SOME NOT EVEN RESPONDING TO THE EMERGENCY SIRENS AS THE REST CLIP THROUGH EACH OTHER AND THE SHELTER DOOR. Absolutely awful, and cause of Universal's involvement, there's no mods because they're afraid of people modding in copyrighted material, ya know, take a page from bethesda then and only let approved mods in the game through an ingame mod menu? Worst part is Frontier is only adding new dinos and skins, even adding challenge mode as a way to add more skins through a progression lock than fixing any of the issues with guests, let alone security, NON LETHAL ONLY? Look, I'm fine with tranqs, but NEVER have it be your only option, if a dino is mauling fuckers to death, put them down, attacking a fence, use tranqs. I could go on and on, but im only 25 mins into this video and he might cover what I'm saying.

[@EliWallace154]

I hope it got better for you now, I just recently did another play through and I loved it! Wishing you luck

[@erideb3864]

I just don't like some of the skins the dinosaurs have. That's one out of many dude. The dinosaurs are the main stars of the jwe and seeing some of the dull and boring colors and some not even adoring stripes and pebbles. Come on, how did they fuck that up. It's annoying as hell. I will not touch the game until this is fixed like I waited so long for this and that wait wasn't even worth it and they had so much time to work on this. I'm sorry it's staying on the damn self and im gonna let it dust until something happens

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

wait a minute,copyrighted mods,companies can actually do that now.Like we can't play as crash bandicoot in skyrim anymore

[@juanyusee8197]

I think Prehistoric Kingdom will be the true spiritual sequel to JPOG that we were hoping for.

[@internetdinosaur8810]

Consoomer lol

[@brycevo]

honestly JPOG is beyond a classic. I love it so much. It really was absolutely amazing to see the classic Jurassic look and make an amazing park. I really enjoyed all of it

[@etholus1000]

Same I put hundreds and hundreds of hours into it in my childhood. I was and still am a huge JP fan, and JPOG made my childhood dreams come true

[@killerzombies96]

Hell yeah brother, it has a special place in my heart..im currently enjoying JWE its fun but nothing beats the good classic game...Op Gen is legit

[@kiryuthedragonwarrior2746]

@@killerzombies96 or shit Tbh its not the best at what it does where games like Zoo tycoon shit on JPOG

[@killerzombies96]

@@kiryuthedragonwarrior2746 well ur not wrong, its not perfect yes but its fun for wht its worth and mods made the game better

[@a.b.1856]

U should do a video about how Jwe changed and how it stacks up to jpog now

[@ElAndoro]

Totally, just the parts that are different then in time of making this review

[@GenghisJan]

@@ElAndoro indeed. Kinda funny how he 100% accurately predicted the paid Velociraptor skins already :D But then there's also decent paid DLC, especially his stance on the Return to Jurassic Park DLC would interest me!

[@spinony359]

Nahh.

[@dboypompeyreturns]

My understanding of jpog vs jwe, for someone who played a shit load of jpog back in the day and has never played jwe is: Jwe better graphics Jwe better looking dinos and more variety Jwe flying and water creatures? Jpog much more variety of park attractions and services Jpog more control over your park and more interactivity with guests and staff Is this right?

[@VerdantJedi]

The only thing that I looked forward to in JWE when it was announced was the dinosaurs and dinosaur immersion, the managing gameplay is so fuckin secondary. But it turns out that the quality of dino-immersion in JWE is extremely disappointing to the level that JPOG has the upper hand indefinitely. No amount of DLCs, Skins or park decor can supplant something so fundamentally flawed with the dinosaur interactions, behaviors, hunting, fighting. As mentioned in this video review 1:31:42, the dinosaurs feel "a lack of behavior", "recycled animations that killed the illusion", "so many dinosaurs that don't do all that much". One prime example, you won't see anywhere in JWE that hunting behaviour is a 50/50 percent chance where carnivores can chase after prey that can outrun them, instead every prey item will stand absolutely still while the predator runs behind them and kill them, this is extremely unimmersive and gets repeated every single time and secondly JPOG dino-battles can sometimes result in the loser being able to flee and cower from the victor whereas in JWE it's always a death battle with recycled monotonous animations. There are ways which could supplement what these dinosaurs are capable of and provide challenges that revolves around actual dinosaur behaviors which could be picked up by the park management gameplay and frontier simply doesn't seem to be interested in that. There's so much that I've imagined for what my ideal Jurassic Park game would be, where the dinos would take things into their own hands fulfilling the famous quote from Ian Malcolm "Nature can't be contained, It breaks free, Life finds a Way", I wanted to see the full extend of what JP dinosaurs CAN DO which includes, socializing, herding, pack hunting, changing sex, reproducing, nesting, nurturing, ALL OF THE ABOVE! I don't know about you, but I'm a dinosaur fan first, so I have an over tendency to prioritize what I want to see from the dinosaurs and how they progress in game. JWE was more of Park management first, Dinosaurs second type of scenario, nothing truly substantial goes into the dinosaur development.

[@Kronosaur0s]

Awesome analysis, covered EVERYTHING and I agree on EVERYTHING, well done, definetly deserve more subs and views

[@BigBossMan538]

Very interesting video. You mention the Zoo Tycoon series so much that I would actually love to see you cover it. Hope you make another video like this sometime in the near future!

[@WolfyBoi7521]

Well I feel like I really have to thank you for the effort you invested in this video, it is the most complete comparison so far, you really went in to the smallest of details. Here is you like and I will also suscribe my man.

[@dabigcheezprod]

Every small town needs a monorail.

[@PWRex]

This is the fairest review to these two games I have seen so far. You could have put some more objective upsides in favour of JWE in it and a few more criticisms of JPOG. I thought you would give JWE a worse score just because of the amount of complaints before watching till the end. But other than that I am totally pleased. This is definetely quality content I want to see more of on youtube. Thank you for taking so much time for the review, it's a thing few people do these days. I personally think JWE is the better game objectively, like you said. I only ever used one mod for JPOG, it was great ansd sadly is no longer available, at least as far as I am aware. It was a JPOG canon skin mod that did remove the limitations and short live spans. But the Jurassic World mod for example doesn't look good enough, to be worth installing for me.

[@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051]

JPOG felt like a dinosaur park tycoon game while JWE is a park tycoon game, that happens to feature some dinosaurs.

[@jessemacaspac443]

The fact I can charge 10 dollars per restroom use is one of the greatest things ever in JPOG. I mean I know its evil, but that's why it's so great.

[@lamotou4banana383]

Hey atleast most of the skins were included in Return to Jurrasic Park

[@girlbossbrachiopod]

Its kind of weird seeing this video two years later since a lot of the design details he complained about have been fixed lmao

[@meem6227]

I always used to watch JPOG videos like crazy when I was younger and I remember hearing about JWE and thinking it will be the best thing ever. Now that I've played JWE I can tell you I preffer even just watching JPOG over playing JWE. Yeah, it's got way better graphics, but besides that, at least for me, it feels like almost a direct downgrade. To put it simply: JPOG felt like a dinosaur park tycoon game while JWE is a park tycoon game, that happens to feature some dinosaurs.

[@georgiosjan1774]

I really prefer Jpog than Jwe as i prefer Jurassic Park than Jurassic World

[@fraundakelmbrilpondaprost90]

A thorough, thoughtful, and hilarious video. Subscribed and hope you get many more.

[@crunch2427]

Watching this now, it’s funny to remember the days when the Raptors had 5 ugly skins, and since then 10 different skins have been added. The Challenge mode Steppe skin (which is just like the rest of the bad ones but it was added), the Raptor Squad skins, 1993 Raptor skin, 1997 Male and Female Raptor skins, and the 2001 Male and Female Raptor skins. We’ve come so far.

[@juanyusee8197]

IMHO The Return to Jurassic Park DLC is much better than the main JW-era gameplay. The contract system is far better as doing one from a division doesn't damage your reputation on the others, the buildings are far better as they are more compact and doesn't eat up so much valuable space like the JW buildings (especially the bloody hotels), and personally I felt most of the original trilogy skins are far better than the standard JW era skins. My only complaints are that they should add viewing galleries to the JP era, and that for the JP campaign mode the dinosaur choices are ridiculously limited (acceptable for the likes of hybrids and dinosaurs that were discovered later, but ludicrous for others like Allosaurus and Diplodocus) and you can't tweak their sociality.

[@JPOGers]

Jurassic world evolution still has a lot of dinosaur AI that isn’t natural. Herbivores sit there as a carnivore approaches then only run when the situations hopeless. There is no true pack hunting mechanic where hunts are actually a cohesive group endeavor. There’s also build mechanics issues as well. No macro editing that allows for the creation of mountains and large geographic features; due partly because of the even more controversial decision to not allow building on the full island. Dinosaurs cannot destroy Jeep vehicles These are some of the more major drawbacks Jurassic Park operation genesis has a graphics deficit when compared to JWE obviously, but the modularity of the game ensures mods can remedy anything, including the problems JWE has. The oldest comprehensive redo mod for JPOG is called the GEP v2; and it’s features are so solid and streamlined that I still run it today as my base game modifier (DJE and PMEP still don’t come close, unless it’s a discussion of graphic comparisons). GEP v2 remedied JPOG vanillas infamous “migration to the south west” glitch that saw every dinosaur migrate and eventually just stay in that area. It increased the herd and pack mentality values while attaching migration patterns to frequency of danger to the time of season; which is actually really impressive for a 2003 game. The modular nature of the games internal files ensured terraforming mechanics were limitless. I changed a few values and am now able to create everything from the smallest hills to the most massive mountains. Rivers to lakes, open plains to dense jungle. GEP v2 made dinosaur AI reactive to its environment on a micro level as an animal alive would today. Tyrannosaurs and other large carnivores would stalk and indeed with GEP v2 changes remain hidden from a herd of dinosaurs on a nearby open plain as it watched from a dense nearby jungle. The AI was programmed to the point where if the hunger and aggression meter allowed, the Rex would sit there or slowly move along the rim of the forest and monitor the herd until a straggler peeled off. The AI would program the Rex to pursue the closest creature until it either killed it, switched targets or retired to the forest to try again. The GEP v2 backed this into the core of its system and it was fascinating to watch dinosaurs of all types interact this way in an environment that I had create entirely from scratch. Herds scatter in the event of an attack but will eventually reform and even migrate to a different perceivably safer area. Pack hunting is done as a cohesive unit. Raptors will peel off a straggler, make wide turns around the animal to corral it into a kill zone and 1, 2 or even 4 animals can latch on the the prey and take it down quicker. Vehicles can be destroyed and guest stranded in the park environment, adding an extra and realistic layer of danger. Weather mods allow for hurricanes that cause power outages and things of that nature, which is just more cherry on top extras. Unless comprehensive mods are allowed for JWE and said mods make the JPOG changes above that are not present, then JPOG will ALWAYS be better.

[@spiritgaming1442]

I made a park in JWE with no fences mocking site B and I had about 100 dinosaurs and in 5 mins the pop went from 100 to 30 the size of the map is way to small and all the dinos get pissed at each other

[@JPOGers]

Spirit Gaming14 Buy JPOG, mod it with the GEP V2 and then add The Forgotten Mod as well.

[@_fawkes]

@@JPOGers Agree with all you said. Sadly you can't buy JPOG today. Better to get it off myabandonware.

[@JPOGers]

Fawkes You can definitely buy it off amazon, but it’s like 350 bucks

[@fieldmarshaljoe]

Bruh I'm 20 minutes in and just saw theres over an hour left... if you think I'm watching this all, then yeah you're probably right

[@ZZzalexnfriendszzZ]

For someone with only 527 subscribers, you sure put together a fantastic in depth video explaining both of these. Thank you Good sir

[@etholus1000]

I spent countless hours just playing on Site B as a kid. Just watching my Dino ecosystem interact was the most satisfying thing to me

[@Abensberg]

problem with genesis: limitations with items and dinosaurs problem with world evolution: maps are way to small...

[@maximaldinotrap]

The opposite in comparison XD.

[@KJ-kn8pg]

That can be easily moded in so i don't see a problem. Honestly its a little bit embarrassing for JWE to be even compared to such old game from 2003. Frontier COULD have made it SO MUCH better yet they failed. At least the basics aren't bad...

[@BorbMcGorb]

That sublime feeling when Fish uploads a two hour video. Gonna grab me some vidya, my waifu pillow, and some tendies and settle in for this one.

[@dinogorawr4735]

Fine, i guess you are my JPOG champ

[@henryofskalitz2228]

i loved the island customization in jpog instead of jwe which is just a fixed area

[@BrotherNick1984]

TL:DR. JPOG is best when you turn Jurassic Park" into Jurassic Petting Zoo"! In JPOG, if you want your rating to skyrocket to five stars quickly. Research the camera's asap, and than create a pen which resembles this "[ ]" or larger. Place all required items for "dino" health within the pen: feeder, pond, trees, etc. Run a guest path through the middle and place camera's along your guest paths {only a few are needed}. This will help them feel safe! Place also, herbivore avoidance beacons on the top and bottom, outside the pen where "dinos" might escape. Than have your herbivores roam free amongst the guest paths. Make sure to make this path essential to get anywhere else in the park. If you make this area big enough, you can even have the park entrance in there, so guests are greeted with herbivores as soon as they enter. You essentially turn it from a "Jurassic Park" to a "Jurassic Petting Zoo"! Also, don't attempt this with the carnivore's, especially the Raptors! All types of guest will respond to this positively! Even the "thrill-seekers". Guests have a fear rating which increases with proximity to ANY dino. Which is why the camera's are necessary. Herbivores will not attack guests, so turrets may not be required. The only downside to this is: dino deaths. Close proximity to dead dinos. The ultimate goal overall, to make JPOG the most fun. Is to build with as little fences as possible, between your guest and all dinos! Even carnivores!

[@劉致雍-o1x]

I know jwe is a more established game (as of the end of 2020, where they ended the develpoement) compared to jpog, but there there really are some aspects where jpog did far better, mostly in area regarding dinosaur activities. I was the kind of guy who actually populated 1/3~1/2 of my park with gallimimus, by just watching them flocking around gives me a happy afternoon. This is something jwe never had; if they don't even run around together, then what's the point having a hundred gallimimus? I really hope frontier can bring back all these immersiveness in jwe 2, so we fans can feel that simple childhood happiness once again.

[@kogucior35]

34:43 This man really predicted Adult Swim’s Primal

[@paulcarter3824]

In JPOG you can unlock all dinosaurs and remove building limits with a minor game script edit. :)

[@adamdavis1737]

Still a great criticism today. However the updates to JWE have really shown Frontier's dedication to the fanbase and to matching JPOG. The new terrain customization, dino AI, and dinosaur roster really have improved the game exponentially. Aside from dryosaurus I think JWE now has every JPOG dinosaur in it. JPOG holds a place in my heart, but I think JWE has finally truly surpassed it overall for me.

[@Streetrocker28]

Adam Davis only visual ist JWE better , but gameplay wise JPoG surpasses JWE easely without a hitch

[@briawansembilantujuh]

No benches, no toilets, no lights, vehicles that can’t be destroyed, no animations for the guests in Jwe. JPOG>JWE

[@knavenformed9436]

Now with all the free updates up to Return to Jurassic Park DLC, JWE is a good game I think, but still JPOG is better with some details. JWE is still lacking in end gae because you can get everything in control so well that fences breaking etc are just annoyances at best. Also JPOG has much better dinosaur AI.

[@Vulnak8n]

JWE 's dinosaurs are still acting like a fucking robot.

[@adamdavis1737]

@@Vulnak8n yep. Just better programmed robots

[@Mauro_mmi]

update this video, they added alot of new stuff

[@miquelescribanoivars5049]

The Mess-O-Zoica skit at the end made the video worth it.

[@Red_PlaysYT]

Thank goodness the modding of JPOG was so easy, the .ini files are very easy to read and understand for the most part

[@EdenAzuria]

JPOG still stands as the better version. It has more gameplay elements and features that JWE doesn't. I love them both, but JWE just has better graphics, it doesn't capture the fun and unique elements of JPOG. I feel like JWE could be more. Like more variety in attractions.

[@venividivici6738]

I played both and loved them both, but any one that says JPOG is better, seriously needs to take those nostalgiz goggles of their face because their not foing you any good, besides blinding you (wich now that i think of it, its also a bed thing lol) from basic dino animations, the wierd and bad and reducced camera angles, to claustrophobic maps, and bad graphics (even for that time in my opinion). JWE 1 and 2 are way better in my opinion

[@johnwithey9788]

@@venividivici6738 guests still feel like robots and no island customisation you idiot

[@Vento.capitaodogpaganossacoca]

​@@venividivici6738you only used graphics and animations, i am very young and i prefer jpog gameplay

[@venividivici6738]

@@Vento.capitaodogpaganossacoca its a choice I respect that, at the end both are solid

[@zayah4838]

Love the video id like to point out we no longer believe most raptors hunted larger animals in packs for multiple reasons

[@grumpyguy112]

Feontier updated the raptor behavior to reflect that. They will now ignore fighting Large carnivores or any Herbivore that fights back but will gladly eat small carnivores or Passive herbivores.

[@mobilemax2233]

I just want to say I have never watched your channel before I wacthed this video but this was so fun and entertaining to wacth!

[@rylanthereee]

I don't understand the problem with evolution. I love jpog i owned it back in its prime and i still do own and play it. But in the end evolution is just flat out better with graphics more mechanics and the fact its constantly being updated to this day. The only thing i prefer from jpog is the hunting/fighting, dinos will attack you while driving vehicles and mods are easy to use.

[@keychainere]

RylantheReee Dinosaurs attack you while driving now

[@rylanthereee]

@@keychainere dude I know I love it. I'm really liking what they got going with the game rn

[@FiddleWiddle]

tru

[@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051]

Graphics is everything for shallow gamers;

[@venividivici6738]

@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 you poor thing, cant accept diverging opinions? You gonna cry? I played both and loved them both, but any one that says JPOG is better, seriously needs to take those nostalgiz goggles of their face because their not foing you any good, besides blinding you (wich now that i think of it, its also a bed thing lol) from basic dino animations, the wierd and bad and reducced camera angles, to claustrophobic maps, and bad graphics (even for that time in my opinion). JWE 1 and 2 are way better in my opinion

[@Nal-Nation]

I know compared to the TF2 videos, these don't rake in as many views, but thank you for giving the dinosaur+gaming niche this video.

[@B1998-u6i]

know this is old but I want to comment that transport might be so low for you because its affected by how easily guests can reach areas rather then transport all together. for example, you have the whole system together but it doesn't matter because your guests have to walk on paths to get to the Brachiosaur paddock.

[@Lolsmokeshowlol]

Just wanna say how good this content was, the hard work was appreciated and it kept me more than entertained on my commute, would love to see a simular comparison when JWE2 comes out.

[@raven800plays]

I wish carnivores can attack rangers, and give rangers the ability to Tranq Dinos as well making the rangers more of an intense mini-game rather than a chore. it won't take anything away from choppers as the choppers would still be a superior asset and would unlock transporting, and it would make the rangers much more fun and interesting to use.

[@tupelov346]

What really appeals to me as a modder/programmer is that JPOG has pretty much all it's data in easy to edit text files. Everything from the GUI to the specifics of how the dinosaur's AI is programmed can be easily edited to your liking. Want to spawn a Spino from a visitor center? Go ahead. Don't like the game UI? Just fix it yourself. It's an absolute dream compared to other games where most of that stuff is either hardcoded into the executable or stuck in hard to edit binary files. Hopefully, I can make a mod loader for the game soon using Reloaded ( let's you add custom code pretty easily) as I've already ported the no mouse acceleration patch to it ( no need to edit DLLs lol). Honestly this only scratches the surface of the modding potential the game has, it's honestly exciting.

[@SkullMan---]

Fantastic video essay! I hope you will do something similar again.

[@WeskerR37]

The transport problem in Isla Sorna, might be cause apparently you need to have at least one monorail very close to the Entrance, so it helps transport!!! Which is a bit annoying cuase it makes the monorail look a little off when you have to forcefully change the perfect path to make it somehow fit near the entrance. So yeah just something i noticed when i used to play a lot, and i had the same problem, awesome video btw loved it!!

[@KovCapyWizz]

Jpog is better for me. I love how it drops you on an island and you have the whole island to work with. in Jwe you get only this part of the island. it bothers me way too much. I just prefer the zoo tycoon style of Jpog. to the skylines feel of Jwe.

[@noahcain6339]

This is some Information you might want to know. You don't need to build a power station for unlimited energy , you can decrease the difficulty for economic, guest, welfare , and dinosaur variaty. Anyways I loved this video I hope you cover more stuff about this game. Subscribed

[@user-73a]

11 year old me was in awe in 2003 at this game and spent many days on it, in 2021 i see how little jurassic world evolution improved on something so simple

[@n3rdy11]

The monorail in JWE needs a circular track design to actually work.

[@AdamsBrew78]

J-WE is amazing on switch. Control is very good; runs fine in handheld mode

[@Jojozilla426]

Tbf about the stupid goats, in a species profile it said that the goats were genetically modified not to fear the carnivores

[@omegazilla7497]

JPOG is ten times better in my opinion.

[@tofuteh2348]

JWE is so disappointing that he had to bring up Zoo Tycoon to compare it to JPOG XD

[@Tucher97]

As a warning, if you read this comment, it will be long, the vid is an hour long and its one of those details I usually have a lot to say about. Zoo tycoon 2 has always been my favorite, but after playing UC, no other Zoo game is enough, plus I love Jurassic park, I came to enjoy all 6 movies, yes that black sheep. A thing I can praise JPOG is the idea of certain dinos being allowed to roam freely and not causing a panic or causing harm and I hope other Zoo games do this.... If possible. Though for the limit on everything, I think that is technical limit, not because teh game saids "nope you reached the technical limit' but more of "if you go past it, you will break the game" So I have to say, the idea of a "site B" that is essentially sort of nature reserve I think is absolutely awesome and something I am disappointed that JWE nor JWE2 have as I would fully accept, heck maybe see dinos interact with old and abandoned facilities, however as a zoo game, I still think JWE and 2 are lack luster, sure the graphics are nice, the animals are nice in terms of appearance and animation but I feel its not impression for the fact that all they do is wander around and eat, sleep and maybe cause injuries. When it comes to a zoo game, I expect the ability to throw a plastic barrel into an enclosure and see the animals play with it. However I think the reason why JPOG's method of obtaining dinos is so ass backwards I can chock up to limiting you to the point you need to play multiple islands, no, that is beyond stupid and shit. Though I can say an improvement with JWE is that carnivores dont have a hunt need, early 2000s was a time when it was believed all carnivores had an instinctual need to hunt but after a few years it is proven false, which make sense, easy fight easy life, why spend energy on chasing game when you can just take the still carcass. As for the idea of diseases, I think its fascinating, but I sort of wish it is a sort of challenge you can toggle before land creation in the JWE games, aside from an added challenge, you get bonuses from it, so lets say a fresh dino in the beginning in the game will be fine but when you bring in more departments and guests, your at risk, heck maybe your main operation building has a small lab that will constantly work on cures, however you can't stop their research, its slow unless you build a dedicated bioresearch lab. As for a funny aspect in my opinion I would like to see, since you use a jeep you can drive around, what if you can set up an enrichment team, no not a team to get mulled by the dinos but a team to throw some harmless stuff around, specifically throwing down hay. You may say, how is hay fascinating, maybe to herbivores, well my friend, some animals like hay not just for eating but as bedding, so what if you have some parasaurs, the team throws down some hay, spread it around, some herbivores will investigate, sniff at it, at the team, then proceed to lay on the work because its comfy. However about a raptor giving you a false attack only to steal the hay bale? Hey, in JWE2 it takes place on the mainland, what if you can set up a site B or a Region B in like I dont know, maybe Yellowstone? You are merely a "study" or observation group and you do very little, what if you get Triceratops dualing with Bison herds for the right of grazing? What if, during a dual, Raptors or a large carnivore waits to eat the loser? What if you are given a mandatory scenario where some tourist complains that they purposely fed their infant child to Dilos? And your options are "pay out right or ask why they were dangling their kid outside of their car?"

[@Marcus-fr7sj]

Great video I love both games jpog was my child hood 😂

[@Raptorworld22]

Never knew about acros and charchars being able to share an enclosure in jpog, I'll have to do that in my next park

[@EmilyBlackEmu]

When I was a kid, I fell in love in JPOG and I still have a huge sentiment for it. Still, I'm very happy for the existence on JWE- I've bought deluxe edition for ps4 with "well, why not" when it was on discout for christmas in 2018, and I'm still playing it. I have almost every DLC (still, everything I've bought on discount, I'm waiting for "Return to Jurassic Park" right now) and even bought the pc version once for my best friend. I'm not playing this game super often, because of job and, well, other games and stuff to do, but when I'm back, I'm sitting with it for hours, trying to make the best parks I can. Yesterday I finished my sandbox project on Nublar, and I have there so many dinos, that my ps4 had a very hard time, so I had to sold some of them 8'D But I guess you can go with it on PC version with no problem, depending on what you have in your pc. Still it's somewhat fun when you're playing on sandbox with some options disabled (like, the one with population needs) so you can watch how your pack of 5 spinosaurus walks along with the pack of spinoraptors ♥ I really like this game and I hope for more dlc for it, with sea creatures and titanoboa etc. Still JPOG had (and still have) this Charm that makes me go back to it.

[@oldgreg2914]

Am i the only one here who thought JWE was far better then JPOG. I like the graphics better, more dinosaurs, more stuff to do, i like the expeditions better in JWE too. I felt that JPOG was far too easy for me.

[@syahnovlikuartapama5401]

U are not the only one, i like jwe better. More update to come soon, they keep updating the game. Its getting better and better

[@oldgreg2914]

@@syahnovlikuartapama5401 I also love how they put in the missions. It gives you more things to do and things to keep an eye on. I am actually very much considering getting all the DLC too. I have the deluxe edition. But it doesn't come with the DLC like i thought it would.

[@syahnovlikuartapama5401]

@@oldgreg2914 dont get the deluxe bruh, if u want to get all those dlcs stuff. Maybe soon they are boutta releasing a Complete Edition. Get that instead. Its surely has a dlcs in it

[@SRGIProductions]

6:11 I personally like to think that Ray cauterized the wound with his lighter, somehow manages to get off the island back to Costa Rica who then deported him back to the USA, and then gets a cybernetically augmented robot arm to replace the one that he lost to the raptors. So TECHNICALLY, he's a cyborg now.

[@BigBossMan538]

Well, we got Carcharodontosaurus now!

[@joshplays418]

@ 2:24 what a way to introduce gallimimus

[@Sqdlow]

I had JPOG on Xbox, and I loved it! I bought it from our local Block Buster back in the day with my family

[@dannyisonyoutube]

I guess I'm evil. I've charged guests for the restrooms! 🤣

[@michaelcorteen7885]

In jpog you can easily change the code to allow all 9 dig sites to unlock

[@RibsBjj]

Playing JPOG I used to use little fences as possible, I used mountains to block the big carnivores into enclosuers and leave the smaller ones free with the herbivores, site B style. The dinos usually stay close to the ocean so ballons and cars can satisfy the guest if you make the route closer to were they stay. For the Big carnivores enclosuers observatories easly deal with the problem. Whoever there are some dinos that can't work in this style, the big carnivores(obviously) and raptors. The later because they hunt in pack, make a fell they die make a lot they kill everything.

[@howtodefeatisis1015]

Nice to see a fair amount of JWE complaints like dinos that were missing from JPOG and terrain features like sand and dirt were added in not to mention building was made a LITTLE less tedious depending on the slope/barrier

[@addictedtochocolate920]

Jesus, the nostalgia overload i get each time i hear this game's soundtrack

[@SRGIProductions]

As of me making this comment I've spent a good amount of time in Jurassic World Evolution. I like it. Though I'd say that the story DLC is probably a bit more interesting than the base game. Case in point: Return to Jurassic Park. It's streamlines so many gameplay elements from the base game that it almost renders the base game obsolete. *Almost*. ACU helicopters and ranger stations have both been combined into one, The visitor center also acts as a research, expedition, and fossil center, reducing the number of buildings you need in your park, and of course: the fan service. Hearing Sam Neil and Laura Dern come back for this DLC alongside Jeff Goldblum was just junk food for my ears. The guy giving his best John Hammond impression is serviceable. It's difficult to replicate the same Scottish accent and tone Richard Attenborough had, rest his soul. Oh, and Compsognathus is in the DLC, too. Return to Jurassic Park has a lot more content with it that I'm probably skimming over, so I think it's best to just experience it for yourself.

[@whitecoatlabs7983]

you nailed it when you called out the DLC move

[@Wvlfmane]

I have to say I hated the JW movies they were massive letdowns but I’m glad they gave us a worthy sequel to a classic game that I loved growing up. Still have my copy for PS2 somewhere.

[@juanyusee8197]

Having played much of both recently: Vanilla JPOG without modding is excessively restricted TBH, even moreso than JWE, with the unnecessary hard limit on the amount of digsites your can unlock, amount of dinosaurs you can have in one park, and the building restrictions. I think the main reason than fans (myself included) considered it a great game is because we played modded versions, as we could just open up the files with Notepad and customize the game to our liking (though considering that we could edit the files to bypass the restrictions on fossil sites, dinosaur and visitor populations, buildings etc., and the game still works fine, why have those idiotic restrictions to begin with? Plus if you're on consoles, tough luck, you're stuck with those obnoxious restrictions forever!), without it the game would not have any longevity at all and would not be fondly remembered at all. Even the map size of JPOG isn't really that much bigger than the JWE maps, the dinosaurs just didn't need much space in JPOG (especially with their tendacy to huddle up in a section of the enclosure without much wandering) and the JPOG buildings weren't obnoxiously large like the JWE buildings (in the base game/JW era, the ones in the RTJP era are much better as they are much more compact). Plus if you use the biggest available map in JPOG, you'll end up finding much of the space goes to waste anyway with the obnoxious building restrictions, dinosaur population restrictions, wandering limit for guests (that can be bypassed by having multiple entrances, but even then the end result is that guests won't see all the dinosaurs in the park), etc. Dinosaur AI is definitely a mixed bag: It is certainly much more dynamic with the predation system (many kudos to bluetongue for that), outside of that the dinosaur AI is honestly rather stupid as well, they're just stupid in other ways. So comparing just the base games of both games together... JWE is better. Granted, with how obnoxiously restrictive vanilla unmodded JPOG is, it's a bit of a "Damned by faint praise" situation TBH. That being said, I do feel that the biggest issue with JWE, aside from the AI being far less dynamic and the animations (the latter is a problem with all JW media though), is the over-reliance of DLC, and some of the best things that would help to fix the base game are locked away in DLCs (want to make T. rexes and Allosaurus more social? You have to get the Secrets of Dr. Wu DLC! Want to have bigger maps? Get Claire's Sanctuary and RTJP DLCs! Want to have an ornithopod that actually defends itself? Get Iguanodon in Cretaceous Dinosaur Pack! Want to play in the JP era instead of the JW era and get the much better looking JP skins instead of the mostly dull and boring JW skins? Get the Return to JP skins!) Also mixed era would be nice, especially Challenge mode.

[@Jojozilla426]

I agree with most you said but as someone who played on ps2 and still played it tons I think the game would still be remembered fondly without modding

[@劉致雍-o1x]

Speaking of the limits on dino populations, I actually ended up filling 1/3~1/2 of my park with Gallimimus. lol

[@sebastiankulche]

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[@juanyusee8197]

@@sebastiankulche A bit late to the party, but nah, that's not the most important thing about JPOG, it's the fact you can charge visitors $10 per toilet use.

[@fleetc]

waiting for the VR version of this...

[@DBTGAMER]

Good video. Jurassic Park 3 Park Builder is a good park builder consdering the hardware. There are 140 Diffent Dinosaurs in the game! You can even trade Danosaurs with a link cable. The game even has cheats for exta fun. I played this alot when I was a teenager, only ever beat It once thought. Graphics reminde me of Roller Coster Tycoon. To beat the game your park has to last 20 game years also there are 5 difficulty levels. The game is petty easy to figuer out, the 20 page manual was also very helpful.

[@meyers0781]

JPOG user interface is much friendlier than JWE. JWE one often blended with the background and also lack of opacity options as far as i know. I can't even inspect guest mood anymore despite the developers being the same as RCT and Thrillville (didn't played Planet Coaster yet but soon)

[@matthewscorner2990]

I feel like this is gonna be a good series. Personally, I'm not that big a fan of Jurassic Park (I know. Sue me) but if you wind up talking about games I like or am aware of, I'll gladly watch it.

[@garethvenables9607]

They should bring back the fossil market in Evolution as having to dig up those fossils for that last few % always seems to take forever!

[@Klethna]

Isla Sorna monorail didn't work because the off-end of the systems were not linked. Gotta make a full circle for it to work, thing can only move forward. Can't go in reverse.