Jury Finds School Shooter's Mother Guilty Of Involuntary Manslaughter

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[@Vision-nr8zy]

This will set a great precedent going forward... these parents should be held accountable

[@christopher399]

Must be easy to be able to blame all your bad decisions on your parents.

[@charlottedrolet9000]

@@christopher399 Don't buy guns for your kids is easy too.

[@christopher399]

@@charlottedrolet9000 It's easy, but handing a gun to someone under 18 isn't automatically going to turn them into mass shooters. There is more at play here.

[@charlottedrolet9000]

@@christopher399Yeah we know. Seems to me the parents did everything they could to make this happen. What did they do to prevent it? They knew he had expressed he wanted to be violent. So you buy a gun and take him to a range. So what you said about easy to blame the parents is correct. It is easy to blame you when you are complicit.

[@christopher399]

@@charlottedrolet9000 My comment wasn't specifically about this case. By the sounds of it, they should be held accountable for some kind of neglect. (I don't think they should be held accountable for murder though. Just for not providing their child with the help they knew he needed, and that they put others at risk.) The problem, as I see it, is that the parents are blamed no matter what. Sometimes it's deserved, but sometimes it isn't.

[@feleshiaj82]

She was charged correctly. The dad will be found guilty too. They bought him that gun.

[@gregorynelson5118]

Knowing that he had mental health issues 😡.

[@jdtalks8023]

The negligence on her buying her son a gun knowing he had mental issues. 2 hours before the shooting they met with the counselor and told he couldn't return until..

[@Landima096]

Thank you! They must not know the case.

[@bonesneil]

So many details were left out. This is why I say that Tess is terrible at the job.

[@denymenot1353]

It’s clear they didn’t watch the trial, Counseling was available for the child, they didn’t act in it.

[@supastar25]

They never know what they're talking about...these parents were so negligent and basically got warnings about him and they never did anything about it

[@TheHouseofcoolstuff]

It’s clear none of these guys have seen the trial because this woman spent thousands of dollars caring for her horses who in her own words were a life! They failed this guy, he wasn’t making up his mental health because even she admitted that he had no friends and his only one friend moved out of town. She was running around having extra marital affairs with different men than get her child the help he was crying out for! I hope she gets the full 50 years!!! She didn’t seem remorseful or showed any empathy for the 4 kids that her kid killed.

[@ramonafortson]

CTG my daughter sees a therapist and a psychiatrist with zero out of pocket and she’s on state funded insurance (Medicaid) There was no excuse why they couldn’t get him help

[@jdawg1902]

Ctg and Envy are clueless af.

[@vlwebbjr]

AF!

[@tribaltheadventurer]

It pains me to hear them talk so much ignorance on some of these issues, and all based on feeling and not facts

[@geminiseason6901]

About?

[@jamaalg7329]

What are they talking about…these parents should absolutely be charged with involuntary murder charges. On the morning of the shooting, the mother sent a text to her boyfriend saying she had to go to her son’s school because she was worried he “was going to do something dumb. In that meeting the school recommended the parents take the child out of school and get immediate mental health assistance, but his parents declined and said they didn’t want to miss work. The mother knew her gun was missing at this time and said nothing. Just a few hours later the child used that gun to kill. The mother even sent text to her boss saying Please don't judge me for what my son did." “ I need my job” on the very same day of the shooting. Showing no concern about others Also this family owned horses, and owning horses isn’t cheap. So they had the money. However There are plenty of affordable mental health services available especially for children.

[@chafrajayfra32]

CTG may feel differently if it was someone he loved that was killed. If her child is told her, she should at least called the police.

[@ceceo1873]

They really just don’t do any research at all…

[@jamaalg7329]

@@ceceo1873 they didn’t!!! The child even caught looking at bullets at school and all the mom did was text him about it asking why before saying "Lol I'm not mad you have to learn not to get caught”

[@MRLONG758]

​@ceceo1873 they never do. They do such a disservice to their listeners and Tez ain't no better.

[@hwdjit17]

I like informed folks. I aint know all this

[@bunnytail21]

I'm SICK that this show does ZERO PREP!! The Crumbley trial has been analyzed and broken down all over the web. It's already been determined they HAD THE MONEY for mental health care and spent it on their guns and horse hobbies! Both parents had health insurance but didn't get any for their son! They lied to a gun shop about buying a gun for dad, when they really were buying it for their child and Mom took him out practicing at the range 3 days before the shooting!! That's BEFORE we even get into all the poor choices the parents and the school made the day of the shooting....Jennifer telling the school she couldn't take her son home for 'immediate' mental health help (after being caught drawing death all over assignments in class) because she 'had to get back to work' even though her Boss testified she could have left work or brought him in with her!! AND didnt even go back to work after, she spent the afternoon having her affair while the school was being shot up!! Just total negligence at parenting, but then you buy your troubled son a gun, help him learn to use it and then never lock it up!! They are guilty as hell!! 💯

[@CoreyTillman-xd9dh]

This show is for entertainment. Why you looking at a show like this to inform you or anyone else. Educate yourself

[@divineintervention212]

@CoreyTillman, You beat me to it.This is hip-hop radio ,not CNN. Ain't nobody on this show got time to be reviewing a entire trial for a 3 minute segment.😌💯

[@bunnytail21]

@CoreyTillman-xd9dh I obviously educated myself on the topic, I live in MI so this has been historic for our state, but also the whole country and deadbeat parents everywhere! I'm just tired of this platform constantly spreading misinformation, even worse if they're only doing this for entertainment, seems like they take their platform seriously, but then don't do the work to protect the culture from incorrect narratives they spread.

[@bunnytail21]

@divineintervention212 The time Charla wasted in that 3 minute segment to tell lies and speculate is the same seconds he could've used to state facts. I'm not expecting the hosts to do research, but they have writers and producers. Just say yall don't know how show prep works...at the very least it's something Tezlyn could've done, she's stated she takes pride in prepping for her Front Page News segments! Just because it's "Hip-hop" yall place such low standards on OUR shows/people! "Entertainment" should still be responsible in its reporting, especially when you know you're the most listened to and popular morning news show, and they continually fumble their own segments. These aren't new complaints from listeners! 💯

[@masterphene23]

You’re silly if you think they should be held responsible in that way. You’re just emotional.

[@napturalyeenstyles]

They clearly dont know the whole story dealing with the mother. She knew way more and couldve stopped him on that exact day. Same as the dad. They thought his behavior was laughable

[@thecunninlynguist]

Accountability. Finally. These parents failed as parents. This is a proper verdict.

[@Landima096]

Exactly! They need to do their research.

[@christopher399]

So if you commit a crime, you can just blame your parents? You are simplifying a complex issue. You are saying that the parents are responsible for everything, as if the parents are the only factor in a child's life.

[@Landima096]

@@christopher399 The parents gave a gun to a kid with mental health issues. He tried to get help. Yeah, they’re more to blame than him. If they were black, they’d definitely blame us. The media would be all on our lack of support for mental health.

[@christopher399]

@@Landima096 The parents are always blamed, no matter what. The issue with that is that it suggests that the parents are the exclusive factor in a child's life, and nothing, neither genetics nor anything or anyone else in their environment, will play any role in their lives. It's only the parents. Bad parenting can cause harm. But great parenting + bad genetics can also be harmful. Or great parenting, but an abusive teacher and tons of bullying can also be harmful. But whenever something wrong happens, people act as if the parents have full control of what happens to their children.

[@Landima096]

@@christopher399 No, every case is different. I don’t always blame the parents, but in this case…the facts are the facts. I’m responsible for my children. It’s a hardship to pay for all his therapies, but I do!

[@kellyfreeman1775]

About damn time, hold these parents accountable !!!!

[@maygonzalez989]

Charla needs to do his homework. She went on the run and they had tons of resources and meetings with the school she disregarded.

[@Landima096]

One more thing. We need to encourage parents to take their kids serious. Whether it’s school shootings or suicide prevention. We don’t need to take excuses. That boy had 2 parents that fled. If you don’t know the case maybe don’t comment. I have a 5 year and stuff like this should be less of a worry but it’s getting worse.

[@thecunninlynguist]

terrible parents all around. was also reading in an article that they would go out drinking and leave the kid by himself...like wut? Drinking is that more important than your kid?

[@Landima096]

They gave him a gun? Why are y’all making excuses for this parent not getting their son help. He killed 4 people. They were and had money to run. It’s their fault if they didn’t take it serious. This is a lesson. She should’ve got more time.

[@dec2567]

So when another kid with no mental health issues does this is it the parents fault or the kid?

[@Landima096]

@@dec2567 I never said that. He clearly had mental health issues. The school called the parents that day.

[@LawrenceAdams13]

“None of these candidates” 😂

[@craigslistreplies3485]

I dont know how you can hear all that and not think she deserved to be charged. Tez left out that the dad bought the gun FOR the son. (It wasnt like it was the dads gun that the boy found) * When the school told the mom the boy was looking up bu11ets on his phone, she told him to "learn not to get caught" * Another occasion the boy drew images of d3ad people and guns with a note asking for help. After the school informed her of this, she still didnt do anything. She knew she was raising a white devil and was too lazy to do anything about it. Lack of money for counseling is not a good enough issue. If you have a child with problems this severe you need to sign them over to the state and have them institutionalized. As far as Im concerned, she is an accessory to his crimes.

[@TheQueenrevolution]

I dont agree with 5K a day either... thats insane. So...5K ppl a day get to just walk into the country? It still sounds insane.

[@nars1288]

Encounters doesn’t mean they got in and stayed, it means they were caught and are subject to deportation.

[@Emmany97]

Do you know what the word "Encounter" is?

[@Sammy2g3]

They messed it up as usual. Lol it has to average 5k a day for 7 days for them to close the border. The border should already be closed. That's the point of the Republicans. But yeah Charla blame Trump.

[@lolafairchild88]

​@@Emmany97 Yes, an "interaction"....if our own government doesn't even state the stipulations, how are we supposed to know? Meanwhile, big boats full of undocumented immigrants unload on the La Jolla coast weekly 😂.

[@SugaRay74535]

You should really be asking why 5k ppl a day are willing to risk their lives to walk months to cross or even get to the border. We need to address the issue not the symptom.

[@804MRMAN]

*CTG and Envy are some goofies at times. I guess they missed the part of the parents buying him a 🔫 while knowing of his plans to use it at school*

[@khaliqwakeel7224]

They’re puppets

[@dyreckta23]

They don't listen or look for details

[@latishabuckner8231]

In the trial she said she had no knowledge of his plans. Only that he was troubled but wouldn't talk to her.

[@geronimopratt7976]

Why was Kyle Rittenhouse found not guilty?

[@804MRMAN]

@@latishabuckner8231 I would say the same thing 🤣 Meanwhile back in reality the evidence of her and her husband texting each other, and texting the son telling him not to do it 🤣

[@keeks.45]

Envy and charla need to be better prepared. You can tell they didn’t even know the facts of the trial and they always do this with pretty big topics. Why host a radio show if you’re not going to give an opinion based on reality.

[@tinad7484]

Money wasn't an issue because she spent a lot of money on the care and lodging for her horse. Also I think she wouldn't have been charged and found guilty of manslaughter if it didn't apply to some degree.

[@itsgoldn931]

Charlemagne’s take is crazy. “What if they didn’t believe him?”. So their negligence should be absolved?? Yo there are parents right now that come home to a empty house because of that negligence. That’s why it’s involuntary.

[@wlcoston]

The charge was correct. You can tell they speaking on a case they did follow or read up on. Also, the mother had a whole trial to defend herself to bring up all of these other "things" yall mentioned. 🙄

[@kiashaw]

She definitely needs to charged, maybe if the parents start getting charged they will pay more attention to their kids

[@danielsueros8166]

Bro they really mentioned 5k migrants a day a CTG really cried again about it trump and not about what the actual bill say. That’s why they say the African American voter is one of the worst voters out there

[@lovelyday3979]

Charlamagne.... be quiet. I'm pretty sure they have insurance, insurance covers therapy. Stop giving excuses. They blatantly ignored his teachers warning them that he needed help and GAVE HIM A GUN. They never said they had a hard time getting a therapist.

[@ikengcarter298]

How y’all admit it’s a bad bill but republicans should sign it anyway…

[@Justmebeee]

😂😂😂 taz was like “hey I’m a single woman!” And said Soulja Boy 😂😂😂 taz is about that life 😂😂 she sees all the leaks 😂😂😂 Taz is me lol

[@SPopeDope]

lol she never said she is single in fact she said she has a man all of the time lol guess what married women look at pictures too lol

[@chriscalvin9367]

Tex straight sneaked that in!!!

[@Pou1gie1]

I think ppl should also be found criminally negligent if they bail someone out who subsequently intentionally kills someone. I just saw this story of an actor who was on Sons of Anarchy and his parents kept on bailing him out after he'd attack ppl (I think he had schizophrenia and bi-polar disorder). Then he killed an old woman, her cat and himself after assaulting some people.

[@Miles-ud6rh]

Why would you agree to 5000 a day… that’s a horrible deal.

[@happyg9171]

The problem may be the bill gives 60 billion to Ukraine and only 20 billion to the US border….. it’s not really a bill FOR the US 🤔

[@eugenehooks4783]

They bought that boy a gun

[@jdkingsley6543]

They charged her right

[@JAiMSTube]

"None of these candidates" should be on EVERY ballot. 👑

[@kevinj210]

Why are they allowing anyone to just come in anyways this place is crazy

[@DummyProofGaming]

The way the president election is labeled a “rematch” like it’s a sports event smh I’m packing for Canada right now

[@MoorBlack]

Good! They should hold her accountable. They always labeling black parents.

[@fearablackheaven1198]

Now that this happened what you think they gonna do to black parents now

[@MoorBlack]

@@fearablackheaven1198 The same thing they been doing to black parents and Black American freedmen forever. Go sit down and figure out another way to twist and turn things.

[@mauricereid3004]

​@fearablackheaven1198 , what they always do..treat us like shit! The question you should ask is what are we going to do to "PROTECT" black parents?!

[@jeremiahferguson-sc5rq]

​@@MoorBlacklmao our kids out here are killing like shit. And no parents have been really held accountable especially not like this.

[@jeremiahferguson-sc5rq]

​@@MoorBlackshow us a case where this has happened to black parents when their children kills someone? Lmao you talking out your ass.

[@davidp3787]

Prayers 4 Oxford 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@andallthatjazz]

They should have looked at the facts of the case before saying she shouldn't have gotten the man slaughter charge.

[@kevinj210]

😂😂 he not the president tho

[@tatipalooza]

Lmfao, Tez is out of line!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@kingprimes7468]

When yall gone speak on biden n hunter

[@voiceout001]

Please vote for peeps running for "Deez Nutz" Party 😂😂

[@KMaccTalks]

I swear Tes needs to do an episode of Lip Service 😂😂😂

[@Exalted-K1n6]

Woah pause Charlamagne.. its crazy you brought up Drake, especially during a Tez segment 🤣🤣

[@Creole_Lady]

As she should be. Ignorance breeds ignorance

[@prestonsimmons65]

5000 a day? That can’t be right!

[@MarcusHart]

$60 billion to Ukraine in the bill cough cough

[@UndeniedReal]

Ayo Tez a boss ass freak 😂 I knew I liked her for a reason lol

[@victorpinedo215]

This show supports a president that speaks to dead presidents and won’t acknowledge that.

[@renatarose6839]

Loving the whole new crew! Thank y’all for being YOU 💕

[@ShutUpAndBump]

Nah CTG, they had the money for a therapist, they knew that boy was out there and they bought him a gun and even had a mtg with the school about him and the school told them he had to get treatment and they told the school no. They both need to be charged!

[@bridgetmotivates4024]

I think Charlamange should do a little research. A woman who can spend $20K a year on her horses, she could have spent some of that on her child's mental health. Also, a LOT of school's have some resources. Their child went ignored because the father didn't work and was lazy and the mom was having an affair and boarding horses.

[@Yujo1031]

Did you guys read the bills? $60 billions to Ukraine!!!! And only $20 billions for the border.

[@ktrimble8111]

Political strategy is having an obviously liberal platform like The Breakfast Club push Nikki without serious interest from their listeners or really anybody.

[@jeromejenkins151]

I'm with Republicans on this one. 5,000 a day!? Thats still too many. Close the boarder altogether.

[@Shin-Blade]

People playing politics like sports teams these days. Both sides...

[@VIRTU_Anchor]

Remember when "Brewsters Millions" did "None of the Above"?

[@MiggieJean]

Y’all need to prep better. It’s embarrassing that you guys are commenting on the Crumbley story without notes. It’s the same thing when you guys invite political guests on. Do better!

[@JustAsaph]

Maybe! just Maybe tez should let these cats know what stories she will cover so they do a bit of research coz they talking goofy these days. the mom was wild. look it up.

[@juiceman_3]

Charla and Envy are so against the verdict but probably didn’t watch the actual trial

[@hellrell2554]

She purchased him the gun and they thought it was funny

[@darnellavery1545]

Lets not forget about the mom was more focused on horses and her extramarital affairs she had the money she chose to spend elsewhere.... Very obvious bfc doesn't do any research smh

[@Moneystayswithme]

5000 immigrants a day equates to almost 1.7 million immigrants for the year though.

[@GreenGeeky]

Envy is the same one who told his kids to talk down on other kids when they pick on them but life is too much for a person who KILLED 4 people?

[@LikthaDoNN]

Every school has a school therapist, and if it goes above their needs, they have a outsource that they have to send you to. Bs excuse envy and Charla.

[@DimeMindGang]

I don’t think anyone’s listening to sleepy joe at this point. He’s the last person to talk about” showing some spine”

[@IRUNU10X]

He was on trial as an adult.

[@jaysco7355]

It's precedence, not President @Tez 😂😂😂😂 she cracks me 🆙 with her pronunciation, enunciation, misuse of words, etc keep them coming Tez. I’m a sicko for a good laugh in the morning ☕️

[@BusinessBox13]

U caught when she said Clinton instead of Biden?

[@jaysco7355]

@@BusinessBox13 no, I didn’t lol I’m going to rewind it 😳

[@erniecookman9781]

If that bill is for the border then why is most of the money going to Ukraine? 60 billion is going there.

[@stanleyn-pq2sf]

Obviously y’all know nothing about the case.

[@cecilytubbs3766]

A big part of the involuntary manslaughter charge that elapsed from buying the gun for the kid and speaking with the school counselor and commission of the crime. it was days/hours. Other parents have been charged with lesser crimes because more time had elapsed and they couldn't definitively tie the parents to the kids crimes.

[@kingsnoodledoodle7380]

Good Morning!

[@meme-zw1dg]

That's not a good bill anyway 5,000 a day is a lot.. Think about what was just said .. who really needs Trump to say that sounds like a bad idea 🤦🏾‍♀️😩

[@lexaneli]

5000 a day? That's a lot. And for how long? It makes me question how many are trying to get in across the boarder

[@zim_ko-boxing3553]

Mate Joe Biden is hanging on by a thread

[@aizawaskitten420]

Call him out Jess! Lol we know damn well charlamagne saw that video. TEZ!! lmaooo not soulja boi, I mean...she not wrong

[@astheskylarksings]

6:28 Jess is EXHAUSTED 😂 The morning show ain’t for everyone

[@CoreyTillman-xd9dh]

Wtf are you talking about about crab bored hate

[@astheskylarksings]

@@CoreyTillman-xd9dh says the dude who no one literally knows what he is talking about 😂

[@rapcat1271]

Because she flipped her hair?

[@astheskylarksings]

@@rapcat1271 If you gotta ask then this post ain’t for you

[@rapcat1271]

​@@astheskylarksingsshut your corny ass up

[@righteousstephen4932]

Damn that’s tough

[@ah92vi]

You gotta remember that the legal system snuffed this one out, and I'm sure all CTG and Envy's concerns about the charges were brought up in court. They're not doing a simple Google search in trial to see if "they think it's the right charge".

[@theog4643]

This sets a very dangerous precedence

[@Jacquoribraddock]

Tez wylin today 😂

[@rudybenavides1939]

Did the breakfast club read the bill why don’t they say that ?

[@SPopeDope]

You didn’t read it also

[@princejamarie24]

Jess is so fucking silly... it is giving DDL 😂😂😂😂😂

[@tford8129]

Charla and Envy, just shut up. If it was your kid that got murdered you would feel different. Stop having opinion’s when you have zero knowledge of the case.

[@vee5315]

*edit* I swear Char and Dj Envy will say the most perfect things that I agree with and I think they're so smart... And then they say something that takes me back -_- . I swear I don't think they're that good when it comes to stuff to do with the law. Involuntary manslaughter is exactly what the ruling should.. if anything negligence on top of that. I get not being able to afford therapy is a thing but there are so many other things that could have been done in order to prevent that shooting- that day. There's a another case going on too with the parents suing the school board.. also if you don't believe your kid if they're expressing that to you like especially in this day of age that's not an excuse that's ridiculous it's negligence of you to not take that seriously regardless even if you're 99.999% sure your kid is joking what's the harm of being safe? OH AND maybe they weren't paying attention to the news when this happened but these parents tried to run away ! they left their kid and they were on run lol talk about loyalty ... There's so much more too I'm going to end up writing a novel. Anybody questioning the sentence should actually look up the whole thing and see what happened.

[@eneobande7433]

I guess they think they are smarter than the lawyers and judge that handled the case

[@Antonjlavey]

The Border bill is not for our border it's for other nations borders it's a bad deal and everyone should go and read it for themselves especially page 213. Why are they helping people from overseas and immigrants if they can't even help their own people here in the United States? What has a Democrats ever done for the black community and be honest with yourself

[@CaramelCrown04]

The same thing republicans have - nothing

[@rach3l905]

You guys have got to do research before you report on these stories on such a large platform. The mom sent texts to the son laughing saying not to get caught with a gun or drawing killing people in the school. The parents were outliers in school shooting situation. They bought him the gun for his birthday. And did everything a parent shouldn’t do. You guys must do your proper research before reporting on such a large platform

[@rosettajones1352]

She bought the gun! She’s guilty guilty guilty

[@thelawofthegun6237]

How does anyone here not see that the idea of accepting 5000 people illegally sounds crazy. Listen to how it sounds !! I’m gonna let 5000 break the law before I enforce it. All the right is saying is no number of law breAkers are accepted. !!!! Wtf they coming for our benefits. They are moving into OUR CITIES after OUR BENEFITS!!! Let’s wake up

[@donniebarcode641]

Dam tez went out of her way to let us know what she wants to talk about today 😂

[@tresha2104]

So because he couldn't get help he wanted to kill other kids??? Idk how i feel about it being a mental health issue.

[@nanaross3598]

You can find a therapist for cheap easily.. there are many options available for therapy that will charge you based on income .. so that excuse of therapy being expensive is outdated

[@klondontv]

When more parents take responsibility for their children's good and bad behaviour, less of these mass killings and things like bullying will happen. And please don't say they couldnt afford to get him help, its not cheap to get a therapist but guns were purchased.

[@tiffani728]

The bill is trash.

[@cmtruth20032012]

Hold up, how charla who always promotes getting therapy, saying it ant cheap now like it ever was lol he has a great co writer team, except when they're not.

[@misteroctober2343]

Jess lookin like she don’t even wanna be there lol

[@2littv1]

I knew Tez was a freak 😅😂😂😂

[@emagenthompson9273]

If the parents are getting charged for not getting him the mental health, why didn't the young man get put in a mental facility instead of going to prison? 🤨

[@annzeeg4217]

His parents bought him the gun

[@leeannarose6384]

I actually felt bad for him, he got life without parole when it was so clear he needed help and all he got was a gun and ignored

[@emagenthompson9273]

@@annzeeg4217 oh I'm not saying they don't deserve to be in jail. I actual do. I'm saying if their reasoning is they didn't get him any mental health help, shouldn't HE be in a mental health facility?

[@annzeeg4217]

@@emagenthompson9273 Nah insanity is hard to prove in court You have to meet a bunch of legal and psychological criteria like being so crazy you can understand the consequences of your actions. What he was intentional.

[@emagenthompson9273]

@@annzeeg4217 I completely understand that part. I'm just referring to the reason they said she was guilty. Because she didn't give him the mental health help he deserved, but I'm sure they evaluated him for any issues. So what did they find out. I'm all for parents getting sentenced when the kid does something like this. But they said it was because they didn't get him help

[@yaboi9191]

It's not a border deal when u have 60 billion dollars going to Ukraine 🤨