Just a thought, Fr. Brendan Hoban says old catechism never mentioned love?

[@thecatholicman]

Heresy of marcionism www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/marcionism

[@simonwesteng3610]

Yes, it does sound like the pope and his followers have swallowed a variant of Marcion's heresy. As for Marcion's own notion, this is an unforgivable betrayal of the God of the Bible. But it does makes you wander: how could the early Church ever even entertain such a notion! Alas, I have good reason to believe that the Church did in fact swallow a variant of Mani's heresy in the days of saint Augustine, thus corrupting Catholic eschatological teaching ever since. For Augustine, who was battling the heretics with much apologetic treatises (must of which was subsequently adopted into Church doctrine), seemed to have fallen back on Manichaeistic notions in his fight against the Chiliasts, presenting his personal interpretations of Revelation chapter 20 (which, if I may say, is fundamentally flawed). As a result, the Church ever since has stuck firmly to the belief that the Reign and Millennial have been with the Church "in mystery" since the start. Alas, nothing could be further from the truth! As for all those Protestant Chiliasts: they too are very much mistaken. But take heart, `catholicman`, for the good God of the Bible has everything in hand for those who humbly submit to His infallible Word.

[@jackiefisher1820]

Studying ,by heart, the "penny catechism" in 1961 at St. Mary and John 's Catholic School Wolverhampton, first thing by rote Why did God make you? "God made me to know Him,to Love Him and to Serve Him in this life and to be happy with Him in the next"! We also learnt that God's love for mankind,also called God's charity was so great that He died for us on the cross, for which we thanked him everyday especially at Mass and Benediction especially in Sunday's and Holydays of obligations! A full two years BEFORE we had our first(not our last) confession and Holy Communion! Thanks be to God I received my instruction prior to Vatican II ! The words of the old hymn come to mind "When wicked men blaspheme Thee, We'll Love and praise Th y name!" Seems like this priest is out for preferent! To quite another song,The Vicar of Bray "In good King Charlie's golden days when Royalty no harm ment! A serious high Churchman was I and so I got preferment! " Seems like your priest doffs his beretta at the altar of King Bergolio! Lots of love from Wolverhampton. St Thomas More and St Edmund Campion and St Thomas a Becket pray for us!

[@alhilford2345]

AMEN!

[@maureen348]

You saved me making a comment, as I was going to say just that.

[@tolkienlewis6887]

I'm also pre v2 and grateful for a good catechesis.

[@katperson7332]

@@tolkienlewis6887 I’m 77 this year and so grateful to have had my faith formed in the 1950s, when real catechism was taught. I went on to a teaching career and made sure my pupils were taught in a similar way. I’m so glad I’m not in teaching any more and pity those who are forced to participate in teaching a wishy washy RE curriculum. However, I have great faith in “These things shall pass”, and my optimism for the future state of the True Faith is abundant.

[@tolkienlewis6887]

@katperson7332 our younger son teaches religion. He tries his best. Thank you for your encouraging words 🙏

[@ANDYCLARAG]

These old 1960s liberals are nearly gone now...We need those who love Christ and His holy Church as the means of Salvation from death,sin and Satan.

[@jackiefisher1820]

Not many Catholics alive out there! Since 1980's Catholic education as plummeted and most pupils will have little or no faith ,excepting the five pillars of Islam! St. Benedict and St. Scholastica pray for us! Lots of love from Wolverhampton.

[@Lepanto2024]

Are you serious? They are all in good health and most are 60 and only getting started. For example my schoolmate Fr M Conway in Ireland. They do not come more liberal than that

[@clavichord]

@@Lepanto2024 Maybe, but if being an ultra-liberal catholic is being heretical to traditional Catholicism, then surely that person is no longer catholic? Or can anyone, no matter their values and beliefs call themselves Catholic?

[@R.C.425]

O'Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee 🙏

[@jothompson1903]

You must LOVE the Lord God with all your heart with all your soul and your neighbour as yourself! (Im 81 and I have known that all my life .

[@Herdingcats1917]

Let’s all pray that this video gets more eyeballs than that newspaper article. Keep up the good work Robert.

[@edtrent3789]

God was the same yesterday, is the same today and will be the same tomorrow.

[@jothompson1903]

Ahh-h!! He is King of kings and Lord of lords! Fiat!

[@jackiefisher1820]

Have you noticed how we don't get many renditions of the marvellous "Messiah" today! "King of Kings etc!!!" Lots of love from Wolverhampton.

[@sheiladumigan451]

Jesus Jesus Jesus 🙏❤️ May the whole world burn with love for Jesus and Mary 🙏❤️

[@theresarezac7502]

“Making up facts” thats a very charitable way of saying that.

[@michaelamclarnon9270]

PRAY PRAY PRAY FOR MY SPECIAL SONS ( OUR PRIEST'S ) OUR BLESSED MOTHER SAYS 🙏❤️‍🔥🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️ OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST IS THE KING OF KINGS AND OUR ONE TRUE LIVING GOD 🙏❤️‍🔥🙏 We must PRAY FOR OUR PRIESTS 🙏🕊️🙏🕊️❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

[@danielbyrnes5446]

12:59 a pure heart, a clean conscience, and a faith unfeigned are nothing to laugh at. They are an undeniable good. All you have to do is follow the precepts laud out in the gospel to get them if you don't have them. It is a great medicine.

[@GaelicGal]

Oh dear 😢 we need to pray for fr hogan and all our priests. Jesus is our king period.

[@RStewartRStewart]

Would love to hear the other Father Brendan’s response to that nonsense (article). Kilcoyne. Yes, let’s hear Kilcoyne on this!! 😆

[@margaretmcgowan7192]

ROBERT,I couldn't go more than almost 6 mins listening to the tripe of this Fr Hogan of the association priests i been listening to their ant Christ statments for more tha 20 years .

[@ronaldbobeck9636]

I have Never stopped going by the Baltimore Catachism. Even though I was out of the Catholic Church for a long time, I went and got a new Copy of all 4 Volumes from TAN Publication in Charlotte NC.

[@attract1234]

A man who joined the priest hood for his own ends. OR. For others, a infiltrator, (my opinion) one who had a place now within our faith, seeking to bring it down.

[@guyparker1749]

Thank you very much your content I find a keen yet diplomatic reasoning.people don't have a sense of the word DUTY,it's in every aspect of life and proper perspective,,retrospectively.God Bless James 11:11

[@francikoen]

The Baltimore Catechism talks about LOVE. Q2. Why did God make me? A2. To know, LOVE and serve Him, so I can be HAPPY with Him in HEAVEN forever and ever.

[@Beautiful_Sacred_Land]

OMG....... P.s, thank you for the link for the catechism !

[@thecatholicman]

It’s in the video notes

[@Beautiful_Sacred_Land]

@@thecatholicman It is and I downloaded it. Will print. The version I found online was much older and had one or two pages missing. Thank you ☘

[@GM-bc8kg]

I love that you actually quantified their error so precisely. Also, follow-up question did the word "Charity" get used ever as a synonym for 'love'. I find that a lot of older texts said "faith, hope, and charity". but didn't use the word love.

[@DeirdreMaher-gg8kr]

Baltimore Catechism uses love and charity interchangeably.

[@attract1234]

I would LOVE to find out who gives these men these places within our church. Well we know were he stands if he can get this published.

[@DonalLeader]

Thou shalt love the Lord with thy whole heart and soul and thy neighbour as thyself.

[@maureen5132]

GOD, help us, no wonder we are in the mess we are right now.

[@CJJPstepintotheblue]

That gentleman (priest I use loosely) needs to read the Book of Wisdom in the Holy Bible. At least start there! Listening at 13:33...

[@TheLeonhamm]

I am relieved to see, in many of the comments, that I was not the only soul surprised at the priest's recollections and the conclusions he rests upon them. The spirit, or rather the 'vibe', that comes to me from the kindly, well-intended priest is not the Holy Ghost, at work in faith, hope, and .. erm .. charity, but the 'spirit of '68' that kinda folksy faux-ethnic gnosticism so beloved of the liberated mindset, all James Joyce, Teilhard de Chardin, sentimental Socialism, and diehard (Irish-flavoured) Rebellionism. A kind of 'Come-All-Ye .. Hail! Me Hearties give uz a Ballad to Che Guevara and the Bold Freedom Fighter Men!' pub routine, great as a rabble-rouser pre- and post- Hurling match beverage-downer, but not exactly historical or even real, a Saga retold rather than Faith recounted (naturally so, for a quick Hail Mary! in game may get an unexpected goal, but a baleful sermon on the benefits of Presidential Monarchy - US of A style - is not quite the stuff to give the troops). So thank the good Lord, Christ is King in the Kingdom of Heaven and its rule reaches into the very heart and soul, thought and sinew of Mankind, being here and now in our midst - like it or not and moreover willy nilly. Right, lads .. on yer feet, chest deep, and give it your all .. to the tune of Sawston .. you all know the words (and let hell be damned): KZbin - Faith of our Fathers - music from 1864 HYmnal - words F W Faber - tune Sawston kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2a2doWeZdpgfrc And do thank that Father in the Gospel, assure him that he can have his version of 'God' - but I am a soldier of the Lord our God, and Heaven's is the Kingdom I serve in love, with my whole heart, and with my whole soul, and with all my strength, and with all my mind: and my neighbour as myself .. just as the Catholic Faith so teaches, even today. Keep the Faith; tell the truth, shame the devil, and let the demons shriek. God bless. ;o)

[@RayMack-xz7xg]

So... He introduces the idea that kings are an outdated novelty and then infers that Jesus being a king must also be a man-made novelty? Then comes the False Choice from him that one must choose either, for example, God the Son (baby born in the manger or otherwise) or God as Almighty God? In Jn 18:36-37 Jesus showed He is a king. Jesus' words in Mt 22:7 also refute what he says, as do Mt 7:13-14. In the end, he ignored that Jesus came to reconcile the world to God, and ignored Jesus also recognized the legitimacy of the strict austerity of John the Baptist's ministry which immediately preceded His, given His words in Mt 11:17. So love isn't mentioned in the old catchechism? What next will Fr Hoban say, that love is love?

[@edmundcoyle364]

Am saving this to read later. The Act of Charity as we learnt by heart, now about 60 years ago, the last final line was one loving ones neighbour as myself. Neighbour was the person who lived next door; plus Irish Catholicism had little to nothing on 'love', esp as regards love of self. You could hardly love ir impart love to anyone else if love for ineself wasnt there.

[@happyme2000]

Know your catechism…it’s not a time to rely on the priest …know if for yourself. Halo app is amazing for Bible teaching. ❤

[@rachelmorgan-smyth5593]

So sad for Ireland 😢

[@paulthomas955]

How does that little prayer go.....the Our Father....."thy Kingdom come, thy will be done" Sounds like a King to me. Also, Christ IS the Word, which inspired the prophets of old. This fuy sounds like a gnostic heretic, there are not two different Gods

[@andrewmcreynolds4677]

Good God help us

[@jeannechristopher5932]

Someone should send him a copy of the old Catechism with every “Love” highlighted!! Also I see a problem with priests today who are themselves lacking in true manhood! Therefore masculinity threatens them. Please God send us real authentic holy masculine men to the priesthood!

[@andrewmcreynolds4677]

Every knee will BOW!

[@joytotheworld9109]

How can it be wrong to think of the definitive Davidic King, the shoot from the stump of Jesse, as a King, Lord, or God? It's sad.

[@Mark-mm42]

Jesus talked about hell way more times than anybody in the old testament!

[@edtrent3789]

And this is why so many beautiful churches in Europe are empty.

[@seamusweber8298]

Difficult to know where to start with this. Hoban mixes truth and falsity here. Hoban parses truth and tries to fuse its to falsity. Association of Catholic Priests. Traitors each, traitors collectively. The real issue is that these traitors are determined to bring as many souls as they can with them, to Hell. And that's why we need to directly confront these traitors.

[@johncollins8304]

Pilate had a sign on the cross saying Jesus of Nazareth, king of the Jews, in not one but three languages Hebrew Latin and Greek. Someone should tell this priest-prat.

[@thecatholicman]

You can’t ever separate the kingship of Christ from our Faith

[@anahioliveros2011]

❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥

[@geoffreystephen6840]

''At the name of Jesus every knee shall bow'' Happy feast of ''The Holy Name of Jesus''! (Well, it is in the church I attend anyway!) Viva Cristo Rey.

[@murielkinsella3526]

My kingdom is not of this world.......

[@jackiefisher1820]

But it will be, by and by! Lots of love from Wolverhampton.

[@saliant342]

…Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.

[@murielkinsella3526]

@@jackiefisher1820 Love from Dublin. Isn't it extraordinary that priests can wilfully ignore what Christ said about the Kingdom of God being in our hearts. I think they mistakenly equate kingship with power and privilege. They don't understand the concept of servant leadership. And they certainly don't see authority as the bedrock of trust in God's Kingship. Sad

[@jimvermeer9451]

That's why we have to pray everyday for Holy priest to enter into the church. There is a well-known prayer by Willie Doyle called shall I be a priest.

[@Divinewillfountain]

THEY HAVE UNCROWNED HIM!!!

[@thecatholicman]

They absolutely have

[@isabeljanes8230]

This priest's ideas are a reflection of the period in which he was formed. It's a common problem with priests of this vintage. The Church will overcome these heresies, just like it overcame Aryanism.

[@OrthoBrit]

What on earth is the man talking about? Christ was there at Creation, as the Word, was there giving the 10 Commandments to Moses, and wherever God spoke. He is obviously the King of all that is seen and unseen. Gee, there is so much that could be said....

[@lilywhelan9960]

Whare could I get the old green catechism keep up ur great work

[@thecatholicman]

It’s in the video notes

[@ronaldbobeck9636]

Try TAN Publication in Charlotte, NC. It is run by the Monks at Belmont Abbey college in NC.

[@okutaviof]

We don't have kings in Mexico, and people has no actual idea of what is a king. Monarchy is not accepted as a form of government. However we understand that Christ is the King, the ruler of all.

[@VictorMaxol]

I see in the article he quotes Brian McLaren, John Scally and Donagh O'Shea. I noticed that in many theological ramblings, always referencing this person and that person, I truly think it's because most theologians aren't convinced of their own opinions.

[@saliant342]

Whenever I hear the dichotomy of “God of the Old Testament vs God of the New Testament” I am reminded of the old Cathar belief of the god of the material world vs god of the spiritual and that these are two separate entities at war with each other. They did refer to these two entities as old and new Testament gods. I can understand that this is probably not necessarily a conscious belief among modern Catholics but I do note this theological posture in the way many priests and theologians talk about God in the contemporary church.

[@Kev1861]

Robert, you are right...what did Pilate say to Jesus ? " Oh, so you are a King then ? " Jesus replied, " Your own words have said it. Yes, this is what I came into the world..etc., .." I know that is not an accurate word for word translation..but it gives the jist. Keep up the good fight Robert and many more blessings be yours in 2025.

[@clivedytor2069]

The younger Catholics, lay and ordained, are our hope. They are generally “ RC…Regular Catholics”. The badly formed, half baked cradle Catholics of the last century are not the future. They have done a lot of damage but they are falling away with mortality. Fr Clive

[@Mark3ABE]

Cardinal Fernandez, Prefect of the Holy Office, has explained the choice which Catholics must make. There is the dry and dusty “Theology of Tradition” (otherwise known as “The Catholic Faith”) and there is the new and improved “Theology of Francis”. Cardinal Fernandez is cautious. He explains that nothing all which the Pope might say or do is to be considered definitive in terms of faith and morals. So, officially, on paper, the Pope still holds and teaches the Catholic Faith, which comes to us from the Apostles, since he has not defined anything at all during his Pontificate which might alter the true teaching of the Church. Even though he has changed the Catechism so that it no longer teaches what the Church teaches on the death penalty, this is not in any way binding on Catholics, since the informal action of a Pope can never override the teaching of Sacred Scripture or of an Ecumenical Council of the Church. However, President Biden, following the approach taken by the Pope, has commuted almost all of the death sentences of those on death row in Federal prisons to life imprisonment. This is a dangerous, and unjust, attempt by the Pope to alter the practice of Catholics who find themselves in positions of authority. The reason for this is that those in death row in State prisons in the USA where there is not a Catholic Governor, or where there is a Catholic Governor still true to the Faith, will be executed, while those in Federal prisons, possibly convicted of far more serious offences, will not be executed, all because the Pope says that the death penalty is never permissible. So, what the Pope says, informally, and in a non binding way (as Cardinal Fernandez explains) can do a great deal of harm. Those who wish to secure preferment and advancement in the Church of today must abandon the Faith and embrace, enthusiastically, the new “Theology of Francis” - a Theology which is warm, cuddly and woke - all religions are a way to find God, there is no literal Hell, or, if there is, no one will ever actually end up there, divorce and remarriage (rebranded as “annulment” and remarriage) is now permissible - two men may “marry” according to the civil law and commit sodomy with the full blessing and approval of the Church. A Priest may rape nuns and be expelled from the Society of Jesus but installed at the personal insistence of the Pope as a Parish Priest.

[@richardcoleman2042]

Faith hope and charity, that's what I remember before v2

[@JaniceGill-fp1fn]

Complete disgrace to the Catholic faith that this man who called himself a priest who is retired should be ashamed of himself judgement day will sort him out.

[@jbchoc]

I have heard that from many people raised in the 40s and 50s. It doesn't matter that books mentioned it, the impression people got is what matters.

[@thecatholicman]

Indeed and there was no utopia back then. Faith formation was intellectual or rote. Maybe jansinist . But today we have NO faith formation and it’s not working

[@margaretmcgowan7192]

Fr Hogan ,Calls himself a Priest but he has never been a Priest who Honers Our lord Jesus Christ as king of kings and Lord of al .Praise be the name ofJesus Christ Our lord And Saviour .

[@michelleferguson5580]

Sing Psalm 72 and rejoice that God's rule is not reliant on democratically elected officials. Maranatha.

[@thecatholicman]

Amen 🙏

[@marcelw6045]

This sounds exactly like the Marcionite heresy: Old Testament God vs. New Testament God, etc. etc. The more heresy changes, the more stays the same.

[@thecatholicman]

Indeed. But that is the junk theology they taught in the 60s and 70s

[@johnfortune3432]

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me " sounds like something a king might say 🤔

[@grahamcombs4752]

I don't know if Ireland has something similar, but what we have here in America is the "celebrity bishop, the celebrity priest,' and "high profile" apostolates with wares to sell.

[@jaqian]

We had them, and later the hidden scandals around them

[@grahamcombs4752]

@@jaqian I guess I shouldn't be surprised. The priesthood is and should be a fulltime job. At a former parish I attended two young and demonstrative priests -- especially at baptisms and weddings -- would go "camping" every weekend. Until they disappeared without explanation.

[@user-yp2oc2mv8m]

JESUS IS THE KING OF THE UNIVERSE! Viva Christo Rey!

[@SaintOsburg]

It's hard to believe a priest wrote that article. Gods ways are not our ways we can't understand why he does what he does.

[@MrTzarBomb]

He’s not only a liar, but an heretic. How surprising…

[@The12thSeahorse]

The root question is……who is hungry and weeping for the salvation of souls day and night vs those indulging with political correctness, flowery theology and if we rock the boat it’s going to create a splash 💦 . First one is uncomfortable and sacrificial, the second seems intelligent and respectful.

[@johncollins8304]

Well I've just gone looking for the number of times Jesus referred directly or indirectly. It's strange: this guy says the opposite of my previous post-- that in fact He referred more often to Heaven!! There must be some -- several -- definitive studies but I'm just going by this: "I have heard it said by some very well-known preachers that Jesus spoke more about Hell than He did about Heaven but what are the facts? As a young minister, I had heard this so-called fact repeated many times but every time I heard it repeated something didn’t sit right with me. Many years ago, I decided to do some research to find out for myself if this was true. What I discovered was there are 1900 plus verses in the four Gospels that contain Jesus’ words. Surprisingly, only about 60 of those verses, or just three percent of them, might be construed as either directly or indirectly referring to Hell. On the other hand, there are more than three times as many verses in the Gospels in which Jesus references Heaven, eternal life, or his coming kingdom: 192 verses in all, or almost 10%. So, the evidence suggests that Jesus didn’t speak about Hell more than Heaven. In truth, he talked about Heaven three times more than He did about Hell!" medium.com/@edelliott/did-jesus-talk-more-about-hell-than-he-did-heaven-7e6100b4df82

[@von_nobody]

Should you ask this news paper to make correction? as this is blant lie and should be fixed

[@thecatholicman]

Why bother??

[@von_nobody]

@@thecatholicman There is chance that someone will not fall to this error when he read that rebuttal.

[@thecatholicman]

@ it’s a secular newspaper, so they have no obligation to publish

[@maureenmcentire350]

@thecatholicman because BH needs to be called out consistently. If it needs to be every week, so be it. The WP and MWR need to be made aware of their error in giving him airtime. I wrote to them in the past about bringing in another priest that reflects the true Catholic teachings of the Church as he is a danger. At least if they are called out for continuing to allow this to fester, something will be done. I know what he is saying is wrong but unfortunately I don't have a qualification/background to support calling him out.

[@NaoimhBeirne]

Wow. 😥 'My Kingdom is not of this world', Jesus to Pilate. Didn't Fr. Hoban leave the priesthood a while ago?

[@jaqian]

The people in the Old Testament lived in a different culture and wouldn't have understood a loving God the way we do.

[@okutaviof]

@@jaqian Well i don't even think F. of understand a loving God the way we Catholics have done for so many centuries. If he fails to see that the Flood, the destruction of cities and even so much killings were, in fact, acts of love, insomuch so as to believe it is a 'different' God, then I'm sure he has failed as a priest to understand a loving God.

[@ByronAdams-j7t]

This makes me sad. This article is so ill-advised-so ideologically driven rather than theologically sound.

[@carljoseph6185]

Jesus is King ✝️ Amen🙏

[@steved7961]

It's not possible to 'make up facts'. He is making up lies. Our God reigns! Viva Christo REY.

[@jaqian]

INRI - Jesus of Nazareth, KING of the Jews

[@clavichord]

Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum

[@jamesnally8586]

If the cleric author of the article under discussion represents the quality of priestly formation current in Ireland perhaps it is better that vocations have gone extinct there -- and not a few other places here in the States. I hear the Archdiocese of New York will ordain one man this year [with a Catholic population of more than 2.6 million]. The Franicis' Synodal Church is on suicide watch. The faithful remnant that comprises the Roman Catholic Church, will endure till the return of Our Lord Jesus Christ, King of the Kingdom not of this world [affirmed in passion narratives of Matthew, Luke and John].

[@kieranfitzpatrick3161]

If we start with faith the size of a mustard seed ….

[@ghostjager8190]

Isn't Fr hogan promoting a ancient heresy of two gods?? The old and new being different

[@michaelhughesdvm]

Let Fr Brendan explain his theology to St. Catherine of Sienna, St. Faustina, St. Thomas Aquinas. Or even St. Dominic. Or any of these before he has to explain it to Jesus. In short, priests need our prayers. Including Fr. Brendan.

[@richyburnett]

Modernism 101

[@thecrazyenglishman1066]

Yes Robert, God help our Priest Vocation. Do we not pray 'Thy Kingdom come"? A kingdom has a king! O" dear! Maybe I am reading the New Testament incorrectly but I don't think Jesus will be washing the feet of the reprobate when he comes again has Judge. This priest is peddling lies.

[@petermasterson8276]

Always Causing Problems.

[@martinmartin1363]

Jesus is God Pilate said so you are a king and Jesus agrees but his kingdom of this world and therefore he is the king of kings and therefore God

[@sketchartist1964]

The priest is so deluded he is literally trying to pit God against himself. He writes as if God in the Old Testament is at war with Jesus in the new.

[@billo875]

There was and is nothing simple about Jesus.

[@john69294]

Was it not to remind us that Christ was supreme, that we recognise the social kingship of Jesus, with nation states as well as individuals beholden to this guiding truth, that the feast was established. It particularly wanted to remind us that it is God's rights and not the 'rights of man' as declared in the French revolution, which are supreme. Think of all the misery that could have been avoided down through history if nations as well as individuals recognised this and lived accordingly.

[@climateireland7546]

Does the priest in question even know that he is preaching Marcionism, a Christian heresy that emerged in the early 2nd century, founded by Marcion of Sinope. Marcion proposed a radical dualism between the God of the Old Testament, whom he viewed as a vengeful and wrathful deity, and the God of the New Testament, who is loving and merciful. He rejected the Hebrew Scriptures and believed that Jesus Christ came to reveal the true God, distinct from the creator God of Judaism. Marcion created his own canon of scripture, which included an edited version of the Gospel of Luke and ten of Paul's epistles, excluding any references to the Old Testament. His teachings were considered heretical by early church leaders, who affirmed the continuity of the Old and New Testaments and the unified nature of God.

[@MaaFreddy]

Hello all and Happy New Year! I totally get that Christ’s Kingdom is not of this world - and so much superior. That said I also think that monarchy is the natural form of government and that had most of the European countries not become republics or monarchies in name only we would be in a much better place. I wish that when becoming independent Ireland had chosen this form of government and crowned a new Brian Boru. Maybe I am a dreamer but these are my thoughts nevertheless , republicanism whether French or Irish or else doesn’t bring any good. So the premises of the cleric’s arguments are already false in my opinion.

[@jaqian]

Monarchies failed because they abused their powers. Just look at how the British royalty behaved in the past. They schismed and then persecuted anyone who stayed faithful to their Catholic faith (English and Irish). Democracy is a flawed system but it's better than a monarchy.

[@kathypetersen7558]

Poor priest

[@jaqian]

Poor parishioners

[@dennisharrington6055]

Thanks, Father. You trying to get picked up as Tom Selleck’s stunt double?🇺🇸

[@thecatholicman]

Who is tom selleck?

[@dennisharrington6055]

ha ha!🇺🇸

[@thomasj51]

It sounds like the good Fr. is dredging up the teachings of Marcion

[@brianhoffmann3699]

That so called priest is a deceiver

[@gerrymccarthy9568]

Another old hippie Robert. Please pray for him but also ignore what he says.

[@jaqian]

Many of those priests are old hippies and of their generation. A new generation is coming up who have returned to the traditional teaching of the Church

[@thomasmooney5653]

Robert please reply to the Western People on just that single point of misinformation alone, for the sake of the readers. Thank you

[@jaqian]

Indeed. Otherwise people will take this priest's comment as "gospel".

[@eamonbreathnach4613]

Fr.Hoban knows a lot more about theology than all ye critics put together.

[@thecatholicman]

I’ve know many priests who knew a lot about theology but very little about God. Pray for him.

[@eamonbreathnach4613]

@thecatholicman "where ignorance is bliss, it is folly to be wise"

[@thecatholicman]

Sadly ignorance hasn’t been bliss in this diocese. It has destroyed the faith

[@maureenmcentire350]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooicfXRoqr6bppIsi=e8F75UZWjB3PffPC Let's hope more start listening to the Rosary in a Year and turn off MSM.

[@danielbyrnes5446]

I've only got two eyes and see very little. But what I do see is an attempt to shift the spiritual purpose of the gospel to attain temporal ends. Amd this is dividing the Church, at least online. At mass everyone seems pretty united. On the side of the Pope, you seem to have the idea that the Church is open to all and that no matter your sin, you should come in. This is not without precedent. On the other hand, you have the very coservative elements, who seem to be playing a double game. They seem to cozy up to very wealthy donors and work in the political sphere to advance economic policies pernicious to the poor because they give greater power and wealth to the economic elites amd take it away from the poor by channeling their frustration at the ever widening wealth gap into a culture war. They direct the frustration of the havenots toward political ends that only further push them into havenotterry. This seems to be what the 'alt-right' is doing. Don't get me wrong, I love Latin amd the traditional chants and hymns. I love reading the Gospel, the Church Fathers, the Desert Fathers, all the Doctors of the Church, and so on. I engage in contemplative prayer. I do my best to love God and neighbor. I ora et labora. I think I'm mostly Catholicing right, but man, there is trouble brewing and greed and duplicity seem to be a part of it

[@lenadoyle5155]

Fr's writing is NOT an invention. Call it what it really is: a downright lie. Pray for priests.

[@starlightatdusk4896]

This man is trying to bring back the Marcionite heresy and should be at least suspended from ministry.

[@josephkalman9468]

hey, practice reading aloud