🚨 JUST IN: NTSB Released Today: Wings Over Dallas Crash Probable Cause, Animation And ATC Recording

[@paulcanon5533]

Terry Barker was one of the B-17 pilots. He was an excellent pilot and a friend. His is missed by all who knew him.

[@KarynHill]

I've seen a few of these where the air boss doesn't assign elevations but expects the pilots to just keep an eye out. These aren't go-karts, and humans don't have 360-degree, full range vision. A collision means death, and not always just for the pilots.

[@interstellarsurfer]

Irreplaceable pilots, irreplaceable airframes, and an absolute tragedy for all involved. 🕯️

[@craig7350]

Air boss was an absolute clown. Hope he faces charges.

[@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo]

His instructions were confusing as hell keeping in mind real time demands of flying.

[@PRH123]

He was a worker in an auto body shop, hired by the CAA. All of the participating pilots and the admin of the CAA were in the pre show meeting, and all either kept silent or approved the half-a’ed lack of a real plan. Everyone that was in the room, the pilots, and the CAA, are equally or more to blame.

[@craig7350]

@@PRH123 yeah sure, the pilots were supposed to collaborate, research his history on the spot and shut the show down if it was known the guy had autobody experience... 🤡

[@Raptor747]

4:40 "Nice job, Fighters, you're coming through first. That will work out." It did not, in fact, work out.

[@wilsonlaidlaw]

Given that the analysis and recommendations were clear, eminently sensible and concise, it is obvious that no politicians were involved in the process.

[@willfrankunsubscribed]

Had see the Raider many times, and meet with many who'd crewed her. This accident was a true tragedy. They slipped the surly bonds of earth, and touched the face of God.

[@cameronturner7475]

That p63 was all over the place, way out of formation.

[@davidisner718]

When I flew in airshows, aircrew were limited to 'essential aircrew only.' No riders or paying customers. So why were there about 5 people in the B-17?

[@mikefougere]

At 4:54. P63 was in a straight flight path, his view ahead were the two P51's. 45 degrees to the right, 110ft lower was the B17 .. it was visible but ....

[@FairladyS130]

Wrong call 4:45, the P-63 was not in front of the B-17 it was behind and that led to the collision.

[@dwjr5129]

A terrible tragedy. Peace to those lost and their loved ones.

[@Bluestreak589]

No surprise. This effup was figured out almost as soon as it happened by Dan Gryder and others. How many recommendations will the FAA, CAF, etc follow up on? Likely zero, as per usual. As to this air boss - His airshow career had best be over. Is the FAA really the best agency to be overseeing any of this airshow stuff? Probably not, considering they're already responsible for the insanely dangerous s-show known as the "Fisk arrival" into Air Venture each summer. Supervising Boeing isn't even close to being the only FAA screwup in recent years... Its only a matter of time before their incompetence gets more people killed.

[@PRH123]

There was another b17 lost the year before with a large loss of life. Root cause was lack of FAA oversight over the agreed individual plan with the historic aircraft operator, which let shoddy maintenance go on (the pilot and the mechanic were the same guy). Evidently they didn’t learn anything, because they let the CAA go on putting on shows with shoddy plans and a controller who was an actually an auto body shop employee.

[@abramsalinas1004]

All my airshows I've been to at Wings over Houston in the 1990's ALWAYS had the P-63 WAAAAAAY behind the other aircraft trailing, period. Terrible job boss. You're fired !!!

[@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo]

I used to go to this show every year. I missed that year because I was overseas. After listening to that audio as a PPL myself I have no idea how this happened. Makes no sense.

[@alphalunamare]

4:44 What was 'all the bombers on the 1000 ft line' supposed to mean ?????

[@Aimless6]

0:51 1000ft seperation from the crowd.

[@alphalunamare]

@@Aimless6 Makes sense.

[@RonPiggott]

This is really sad. There is no price to human life. I expect they will learn from this event. It is going to be a loss to the commemorative air force. See and avoid doesn't work well.

[@GH-oi2jf]

I have no expectation that people will learn from their mistakes. More likely, they will rationalize. When people learn a lesson, it is a bonus.

[@PRH123]

Unfortunately doubt it too. CAA should be reorganized entirely. They were the ones planning (sort of) and putting on the shows. Remember clearly the head of the CAA standing at his podium after the accident, smiling and thanking the local police repeatedly for some reason, pretending he had no idea how it could have happened.

[@jarigustafsson7620]

faa officials: but we work for boeing...

[@AverageAvgeekYT]

Sad, I saw the raider once from my rooftop

[@igorGriffiths]

Sensible recommendations from the investigation, doing flight management on the fly sadly proved to be an accident waiting to happen whose time ran out at this event

[@ald1144]

After a life in military aviation I like to think I'm fairly hardened and objective, but this is one accident I just can't bear to watch. When it happened I watched maybe 3 or 4 times. Never since.

[@jtjames79]

In the late '90s we had the technology for collision avoidance in our drones. These were primitive drones. The FAA wanted nothing to do with it. Video games have collision avoidance. It's embarrassing.

[@johnjettfothergill4231]

No doubt. A horrible incident in all respects.

[@Commander-McBragg]

To everything a shelf life.

[@alnilam2151]

2 have a collision at speed two hundred and twenty feet above the ground: A spectacle No AudienceShouldSee or witness! 220 feet makes no sense? {/}