Just released - Arrows Sky Cruiser 1400mm rc trainer complete review

[@emiliyanmartinov]

This plane is 1:1 FMS Skytrainer, which by the way is perfect begginer rc airplane. I converted my own Skytrainer into FPV and it flies awesome. I noticed that even the ESC of the Sky Cruiser is the same - Predator 40A, so one can fly it on 4S battery. Awesome trainer! Thanks for the video!

[@SteffenRC]

Appreciate the comments and support. I just gave this plane to a friend I've been teaching to fly. He's been training on my FMS Ranger and doing very well... I've just used the 3S batteries. Felt they have enough umph and power for the type of plane.. Good to know you can use a 4s...

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Well I am on vacation right now and my Daughter told mine arrived last Friday, If Id been home I could beat you to this....lol No just kidding! Great Video and I love your patience with your videos and I love your format, Between you, Adam from Model av8r and BD Tennessee I learn so much!!! I playfully consider you my YT Reviewer competition. But I tell ya WE are in good company, all of us reviewers want this hobby to thrive and grow and if we as reviewers are not honest and straight forward about these products (LIKE YOU ALWAYS ARE) then the viewers will know it it for sure. Then there goes our credibility and trust from these great people who look to us for the answers. As A You Tube Reviewer you and Adam and BD will agree! When I say there is real sense of joy and pride you get when a viewer or subscribers says," Thanks so much I was looking everywhere for the answer then I found your channel!" . When I hear that I am so happy that my efforts helped someone!!! And I was just gonna say what a great video and got on my soap box!!! God bless you Steffen and enjoy sharing this hobby with us your fellow brother and sister You Tube Reviewers and of course our fantastic Viewers and Subscribers!

[@SteffenRC]

Thats means a lot brother.. Really appreciate it.. KZbin is a wonderful place for us to share the good and the bad. I really try to put every plane in a positive light, but I'll try to point out the things that I think need some attention/modifications. You're are right about the positive comments. It makes it all worth while. But, then there are the guys who love to critique everything.. I try to ignore those... God bless you too my friend. Looking forward to seeing your review of this plane. As I noted, there's a bit of work on the assemble. But she flies like a high wing trainer...

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

@@SteffenRC Well thanks so much1! It should fly well and the FMS Sky Trainer 182 flew great . This is the same mold and just rebranded from FMS to Arrows. FMS owns Arrows anyways so this is a great cheaper alternative to the more expensive FMS Cessna 1500mm Which as we both no is an awesome plane.

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

@@weseehowcommiegoogleis3770 Yes we do direct deposited to offshore accounts.....lol No We dont.... For me Hobbyzone Sends me Arrows Planes for review but no salary. We still have to provide our time, materials, and passion for the Hobby. But no money. Hobbyzone has made it clear they want straight forward honest reviews with the good AND the bad shown. But they want us to show how to improve and offer help to people to help them along. Hobbyzone wants you for the LONG term not the quick sale!

[@jollyroger2226]

Good demo of the build and flying. Perhaps this might be a good option as the first scale plane, after a new pilot has learned with a slower, more basic trainer plane. ( It certainly has a lot of nice scale features and the flying can be a rewarding scale like performance. ) A lot of trainers have really flexible wire gear that can handle the rough, bouncy landings of a new pilot. These gear seem a bit stiff in comparison. Probably depends on the skill set of the new pilot and their preference in airplanes.

[@SteffenRC]

I agree, it really depends on the pilot. The fella I'm instructing now, has taken a few solo flights with the FMS Ranger. This plane flies about the same. He likes the scale bits on this one. He'll be able to handle this, no problem. This landing gear is rigid as you mentioned. Foam wheels will really make a difference. The vector gyro, flaps and scale details will be a nice option for those newer pilots.

[@DronemanJoeRc]

Hello my friend. its a very nice bird for a trainer or if you want to take it as a Sunday flyer and just relax. Very nice review. I do wish Arrows would install the servo horns on the plane and a few other things that you had to glue on... Tell Arrows its 2024 and we don't want to have to install them. Otherwise its nice bird and thanks for sharing. 👍👍👍👍👍

[@SteffenRC]

Thanks Joe. I agree. Its a good plane, but there are a few things Arrows/FMS can do to help make this plane better and more competitive in this tough rc trainer market...

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Looks an awful lot like the old FMS 1400 Sky Trainer mold. Good flyer. Very nice review Will. Great tips for the assembly, and great flying man!

[@SteffenRC]

Thanks Adam. Its a solid plane and flies as expected. I think they need to drop the price a bit though.

[@Mikeylikesit1968]

Same plane, just rebranded for Arrows, FMS makes all the planes for Arrows

[@livegood9876]

Excellent review and great attention to detail on the assembly! Wow

[@SteffenRC]

Appreciate the comments.. Thanks

[@flymachine]

This is the FMS Cessna rebranded, I have some of the Arrows birds they are the exact airframes of past FMS products just rebranded, with newer electronics. The problem I found with Arrows is replacement parts are hard to get so I have had to resort to getting the relevant FMS parts which match structurally but not aesthetically often. Good value, very solid

[@SteffenRC]

Good to hear. Appreciate the information... Thanks, Will

[@emiliyanmartinov]

Not exactly. This is the FMS Skytrainer. FMS Cessna has 1500mm wingspan with removable wings for easy transportation. I agree with you that this is the same Skytrainer with different decoys.

[@JohnVHRC]

Looks nice, cant wait to maiden mine.

[@SteffenRC]

Its a nice plane, but as you know there is an assembly process thats a bit more than the other models we work with. It does fly well, I pushed the CG back a bit. The power system is very efficient..

[@JohnVHLife]

@@SteffenRC​​⁠sounds good. I’ve been building kits for decades so not much phases me. 😊 thanks!

[@Stirling_RC_Videos]

Hi Will. How does this fly compared to the FMS Cessna 182 1.5m? At 60% of the price it might be a great option. Obviously a lot of work to build.

[@SteffenRC]

I really like the FMS Cessna 182 for several reasons. 1. The wings are removable for storage and transport. 2. its a bit more scale and looks quite nice on those slow flyby's. 3. The assembly is a cake walk. Don't get me wrong, this is a good plane, but if you have the extra $'s the FMS Cessna is worth it. At $180, this is a really good deal too.

[@Stirling_RC_Videos]

@@SteffenRC So, since I already have the FMS Ranger 1220, neither of those are really ones I'd be looking at next. I actually have the E-flite Cherokee 1.3m and now the E-flite T-18 1.2m so I'm probably staying put for a while. I like the idea of these "trainer" planes as they do fill a need. I'll be adding nav lights to my Ranger today as I miss them at dusk where the Cherokee excels with those lights.

[@SteffenRC]

The FMS Ranger 1220 is an ideal plane to really take you from beginner to mild aerobatics. Just really work on your landing approach and have those nailed before you get the Cherokee, T-28 (I really like the Eflite Cirrus SR22t). All good options. Just get ready for things to happen a big quicker.. Good luck....

[@Stirling_RC_Videos]

@@SteffenRC I do appreciate your videos with the Ranger to learn to fly. They were very helpful. The Ranger is pretty tame. Yes the Cherokee and T-28 are faster. I had the Cherokee to 70 mph Tuesday and the T-28 around the same tonight (2nd flight). The Ranger and UM X TTE are great for landing training and I'm doing well with them. I have tended to land the Cherokee a bit hard...not enough flights on the T-28 yet to say how I fly that. Thanks again.

[@SteffenRC]

Gotcha.. Look like you just need to get that nose up on the Cherokee to smooth is out the landing and slow it down. Goes without saying that to really achieve great landings, you can't be in SAFE mode. You need to play with that elevator a bit.. Especially when the flaps are deployed as they tend to make the plane pitch nose down.... Keep at it.. Will

[@richardwoods1739]

Good review but ease of building and attention to detail like screw length, cable routing and gluing components make this a poor model compared to the fms Ran 28:54 ger series .

[@SteffenRC]

Thanks. The plane requires a fair amount of assembly for sure. I have the Ranger 1220 and love it. (If it only had a wing tube..😞). There are so many planes and reasons one might buy this or that. I’m glad we have a pile of options. 👍🏼

[@bobdaeronort]

Just maidened mine and the motor burnt out by the time it landed. Looks like four poles of the motor are toast. I do Like the plane. Ordered a new motor.

[@SteffenRC]

Sorry to hear about the Motor issue.. Thats not right. They should've provided you a free replacement motor.. Hope they are taking care of you.

[@bobdaeronort]

@@SteffenRC - WELL, AS IT TURNS OUT ,ARROWS CAME TROUGH WITH A NEW MOTOR. GOOD PEOPLE.

[@SteffenRC]

@@bobdaeronort so glad to hear that.

[@txkflier]

Actually, you should never use blue Loctite around plastic as it will destroy it. Loctite 425 Assure is made for plastic items, but it's probably hard to find and expensive. I just use the clear contact cement like what comes with Freewing planes. You can also use Beacon Foam-Tac, Bob Smith Foam-Cure, or UHU POR.

[@SteffenRC]

I should have shown, how I apply my loctite. I use a toothpick and just smear a bit onto the threads. Not enough to run or touch the plastic. But you're right, using foamtac or something like that is a great option without the risk.

[@txkflier]

Also, Hobby Zone is selling it right now for $179.99 which is $50 off..

[@Mikeylikesit1968]

Nothing new, its just the old FMS rebranded for Arrows. Fms makes all the Arrows planes anywho. You can also buy all the Arrows planes from Fair Rc

[@SteffenRC]

Yep. I didn't know about the FMS version. Wonder if they upgraded anything other than the reversing thrust...

[@Bellairvideo]

Well presented mate. I have the new FMS C182 & so great to fly & film at our beach last week. I love it when i can install HD cameras in the cockpit. 🦘🪃🇦🇺

[@SteffenRC]

Thanks. I really like my FMS 1.5 Cessna too. Great flyer and looks outstanding.

[@emiliyanmartinov]

Did you convert the new Cessna into FPV or just installed a recording camera? Bcs I have the FMS Skytrainer converted into FPV, and recently got my new FMS Cessna 182 and I plan to convert it into FPV also. But I'm afraid the dashboard could be too obstructive.

[@Bellairvideo]

No, i just used a camera inside mine to record the flight

[@emiliyanmartinov]

@@Bellairvideo got it, thanks!

[@patrickhoyle8357]

The way you throw everything down your planes will have hanger rash before they've gone in the hanger. Be gentle with the bits! otherwise good video

[@SteffenRC]

Not sure I'm damaging them like you think. But, I'll try and me more gentle... Thanks for watching...

[@christophergagliano2051]

That thing flies way too fast for a trainer. This certainly should not be someone's first airplane that's for sure. It's too complicated.

[@SteffenRC]

Really? I put an awful lot of batteries through her and while flying the FMS Ranger between flights. It was a bit fast on approach than the Ranger, but not much. I don't think it would be too hard for a new pilot with an instructor. But, it all depends.

[@christophergagliano2051]

@@SteffenRC For sure you will have to have an instructor as part of the learning process for this aircraft. Forgive me, but I'm old school when it comes to new pilots getting into the sport. A simple 3 channel set up (elevator, rudder, throttle) is all you need as a beginner. Maybe with an aircraft with ailerons installed but not used at first might be acceptable.

[@SteffenRC]

Gotcha.. I've been instructing a fella at the club with the FMS Ranger and he's taken to it very quickly. No SAFE solo on the 5 or 6th flight. He could definitely handle this plane. I appreciate your comments, thanks... Will

[@flymachine]

Completely disagree. Everyone I know who started flying in the 80s and 90s learned to fly on 40 and 60 glow high wing trainers - this draggy big electric foamy doesn’t come close to the speeds of those trainers - ruggedness, stability and control are key for a trainer - speed is life for someone who is not experienced enough to handle or avoid a stall - this thing is a great trainer, rugged, stable, forgiving and good looking as a bonus

[@christophergagliano2051]

@@flymachine I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about. Nobody recommends a 60 engine as a trainer. Absolutely nobody. You are absolutely out of your mind to put so much power in a trainer

[@florinapetresimeon.suceava]

Way to expensive😮😮

[@SteffenRC]

Right now on HobbyZone it's $180. Thats not a bad deal at all...

[@florinapetresimeon.suceava]

@@SteffenRC yeah but that was the price on the fms one

[@florinapetresimeon.suceava]

And this isthe same ,just with another paint scheme

[@SteffenRC]

@@florinapetresimeon.suceava i never saw the FMS version. I agree, they should drop the price to under $200. But, they probably won’t listen to me. 😎

[@florinapetresimeon.suceava]

@@SteffenRC yeah ,planes are getting so expensive these days ,its like they are runing out of foam or something ,and this goes to eflite and fms