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0:00 Mounting
0:36 Intro and Setup
7:01 Fun Testing! Surge Capacity w/ Air Compressors and Car Lift
11:38 What Should You Buy? 6000XP VS 12Kpv VS 18Kpv
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[@WillProwse]

If you know an inductive load that can hit 136A or more, comment it down below for next video! EG4 12Kpv (affiliate link): signaturesolar.com/eg4-12kpv-hybrid-inverter-48v-12000w-input-8000w-output-120-240v-split-phase-rsd-all-in-one-hybrid-solar-inverter-pre-order/?ref=cPwLcVc0SW-BjN EG4 18Kpv: signaturesolar.com/eg4-18kpv-hybrid-inverter-all-in-one-solar-inverter-eg4-18kpv-12lv/?ref=cPwLcVc0SW-BjN EG4 6000XP: signaturesolar.com/eg4-6000xp-off-grid-inverter-split-phase/?ref=cPwLcVc0SW-BjN 0:00 Mounting 0:36 Intro and Setup 7:01 Fun Testing! Surge Capacity w/ Air Compressors and Car Lift 11:38 What Should You Buy? 6000XP VS 12Kpv VS 18Kpv

[@ThunderChicken1]

Also I contacted signature solar to put me a complete system together using the 18K and two EG4 batteries with all components needed. And I still haven't heard back from them.

[@ualdayan]

Signature Solar also has the 18K refurbished for $3699 - I would assume (but might be wrong) that somebody could click any of your links above so you still get the referral credit and then go over and order the 18K refurbished one instead. They say it's fully functional with a 2 year warranty so that's probably the route I'd go.

[@Nicedesk]

My diy garage ore smelter may hit 136A haha

[@FauxQue-yk8dt]

Some large commercial AC units draw over 200A

[@66bigbuds]

Welder

[@zmarko]

I'm here for Will watching his old videos for reference, just like I do with his videos. Lol.

[@PaulPaid]

Yeah.. why do the same homework twice?

[@ledbea]

for someone who I think has seen in all in regards to solar power, I loved seeing him like a kid on christmas when he had everything going at once. I didn't think 4 compressors and a car lift were the thing dreams were made of

[@mycabinlife1291]

Exactly! Like a little kid at christmas! I loved it!

[@SuperWhizy]

Will watching Will's video is straight out of Spaceballs.

[@suntz8736]

That gave me a good laugh.

[@BlkFireHawk427]

I could be having the Worst day, then I get the biggest smile when I watch your videos! Thanks, Will!

[@mattwalker534]

When you get confused so you watch your own how-to video😂

[@mycabinlife1291]

At least he knew right where to go to find the information! LOL I laughed at that part too....

[@pvbatts]

Why not just crack open a Sol-Ark 12K manual? What a rip off.

[@Katyas-Korner]

Right at 2:26. Delightful.

[@dr650dude]

i cant believe i started watching you when you were in the camper...well done sir.

[@JohnBaker3000]

I don't feel so bad anymore. Even Will has to refer to Will's videos from time to time!

[@esmaponda]

😂😂😂😂

[@johnhufnagel]

when you're so good at what you do, you're your own SME.

[@msromike123]

You came a long way guy. I'm just thinking back about your hand tools7 years ago (among other things.). Happy for you man.

[@LithiumSolar]

"you're only saving $1300 or something" like it's pocket change. LOL. Love the multi air compressor testing setup, genius idea!

[@WillProwse]

You should set some up! They work so well for testing surge. Super fun Which one would you buy haha that transfer switch is a deal for the price on 18k

[@johns6119]

I love my 18k, this educational videos are so good for the community

[@WillProwse]

18k is such a beast

[@XxTWMLxX]

I have an 18k running my whole home with a 200a service. Rarely ever touch the service anymore. 2 batteries and 12kw of solar on it currently. adding another array soon. Putting me to around 16kw of solar. Hardest part was getting gov permission and permits to pull my meter for the work. The actual install is dead simple.

[@TheColinputer]

My biggest take away from this video. Save $1000ish on the 12K over the 18K. But then spend that $1000ish on air compressors. Thanks for the advise Will

[@mycabinlife1291]

Only if you have enough batteries lol

[@Keifsanderson]

Really appreciate the effort you're putting in on these inductive loads.

[@RicoCantrell]

Downloading this video to have it forever. Good info and this looks like the perfect unit for my garage area.

[@Camstercage]

Man, it’s great to see how much your channel has grown. Keep up the good work.

[@mycabinlife1291]

I love watching your videos and seeing your enthusiasm, excitement and surprise lol I doubt I will ever need this system and I really don't understand much of it but I am trying to learn. Thank you for a great video especially the part where you looked up your own video LOL

[@alvinhyman6838]

Okay, I enjoy seeing your reactions when something greatly supercedes your expectations. I want to see the unedited edition!? Because your go to heat gun and car lift actually let you down by working! lol Keep the video flowing

[@jerryfaircloth]

12K total AC was not quite enough for my needs but two of these 12K's which give me 16K AC looks like the perfect setup. That way I have some redundancy if one unit were to fail although with half the output. Very nice unit from EG4 and Will of course nailed the review.

[@turtle1723]

You also get another PV input, 24kpv vs 18kpv. 2 18k would be too much for me, but 2 12k just right.

[@2284esther]

Insanely awesome! Thanks

[@KEAWE7]

Love your reaction!

[@niffrig]

Interesting development. It is closing in on the SRNE 8 kW and 10 kW. Better quality and support for slightly more money.

[@dart336]

i love how you have more money than what you know what to do with and still go shopping at harbor freight.

[@sociopathmercenary]

Harbor Freight is awesome. Not for everything but you can't beat the pricing on some of their stuff.

[@_xyzyz_]

I think that is how you get a pile of more money than you know what to do with

[@christopherguy1217]

I was looking at the 18Kpv just for the well pump surge capacity, now I see the 12Kpv is enough. I'll also need fewer parallel batteries to get the amperage for continuous use. Thanks for the video.

[@terrysystems]

That's a really impressive collection of air compressors. You know, admitting you have a problem is the first step....

[@redsquirrelftw]

I like how you went out to buy 4 big compressors for this test lol. That is quite impressive that it will run all those starting at same time.

[@JbVest]

Wow man! Great test, had no idea they came out with this inverter! I'm on the 6K now I wish I would have saved for this one lol

[@Mac_Raymond]

been waiting for this one!!

[@ry2456]

Probably one of your best videos. Informative and exciting! Gives me confidence in my 18kpv. Do you think you'll be able to do this kind of video on the NHX, New Growatt and maybe one of the SRNE 10kw inverters? I know that would be a lot on your plate. These are all getting a lot of interest on the forums. 10kw units at good prices. One reviewer doing simular tests on all of them would be amazing. Thanks Will😁

[@Electronzap]

Very cool. Looks like they are pretty close to perfecting home energy storage batteries.

[@stiffmeister0hYeah]

agreed.

[@RealitySurvival]

Looks like a great unit!

[@kllcenly869]

Well done 👏

[@rfphill]

If I could start over in my career, I would have gone the electricity route. It's all so over my head. Makes my head hurt trying to imagine diy'ing my own solar here at home. Fascinating stuff. Love all your vids.

[@mycabinlife1291]

Start small. Baby steps. Cash is king.

[@rfphill]

@@mycabinlife1291 that is my intent to pay in cash, and build up to it.

[@norsk54472]

thank you great introduction - loving seeing this new tech - just wish it was available back in 2019 when I was buying Schneider parts. Next one definitely now you have 4 air compressors -- lol -- nice test loads for sure mmmm, I need an air compressor for when my diversion load water heater reaches max temp and my panels are searching for a load to power.

[@OCDlosp]

Bro i was looking for your recommendation on 12v batteries and I did not know how to find you. I searched plantar faciitis on youtube and i remember your name is will. but there is a channel called ally mendoza with all your old foot videos, i love you and God loves you. and im still wearing zero drop shoes from lems

[@jefferyshall]

You KNOW your videos are good when you go back to reference your own video for information!!! : )

[@brucemccreary769]

Great review and test. One test parameter of interest for off grid applications would also be the idle current draw of the inverter. It's another factor in the inverter size choice. I wish you could add that on the notes for this review.

[@WillProwse]

Dang it I forgot!!

[@Kunani]

Thanks for all your videos. The 12k just wasn't big enough for me so I ordered the 18k along with Aptos panels, batteries and AC unit. I followed the links but eventually ended up with a custom quote by email so I made sure they knew you referred the business. Hope it worked out.

[@midwestworkshop2863]

This works out, been looking at inverters

[@SmitHVAC.]

Wow, what a beast! I just started playing with the 6000xp and I thought that was impressive..

[@enricopallazzo3244]

I just got mine running. Kind of wish I waited for this as the 18k was a little overkill for my purposes. Good luck!

[@ejennings98]

Very impressive, thanks for spending the $$ to perform these tests to confirm the capacity.

[@marcfruchtman9473]

Great Video. I would advise placing a bushing/grommet where the battery cables are entering to prevent the metal from rubbing the insulation off over time.

[@azwelke2638]

If you put some nolox on the threads of the lugs, they won't squeak when you're tightening them and they will get a little tighter.

[@stuartbrock7586]

thanks Will.

[@danielmitchel1189]

Let's see what happens -- so valuable. Thank you!

[@bradmesserle999]

This test is hilarious. This is very interesting. Great video

[@johnhufnagel]

even though my plans are for a power "shed", being sealed units means I might not need to work as hard at closing the envelope and conditioning the space. plus, any thing that helps keep critters out of the critical bits, is always a good thing.

[@loucinci3922]

Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing

[@XxTWMLxX]

I furreled my battery cables to my 18k. The solar its a MUST. But it really helps get those large fine strand cables fully in to the battery lugs. The AC cables do not need furrels as they are large strand rigid cables

[@ericmatthews7264]

this must have been a coordinated effort. I just got an email from eg4 announcing this new inverter and then Will drops this same day which had to have taken weeks to prepare.

[@TheCarGuyOnline]

Love how excited this made you 😂. Now, I need to design a system around one of these. Thank you for your testing and knowledge dumps, it sure helps us normies get down the right path.

[@WillProwse]

Been watching your videos!! And thanks 😁

[@deeprootslandscaping4499]

Great video as usual

[@randyrodriguez99]

Perfect size for my house 🙌🏽

[@Ohiostategenerationx]

I wonder if Will has his old RV channel that he had several years ago. He had a lot of great information on that channel as well.

[@Solar_and_Security]

Very nice!

[@RandallSoong-pp7ih]

Thank you!!

[@jetfirers5139]

Love your videos man

[@tuberdave1]

Great video and great content!😊

[@VnazT]

This is awesome

[@N8TheSnake]

Will we need a Anker F3800 teardown video. You're the hero we need

[@martijnheeroma5492]

Same result as using Victron MP that's impressive ;)

[@P81OS2]

Nice video, sir!

[@distinctivemf1918]

All good stuff. Ty

[@diyEVguy]

Thanks!

[@pltspemula]

Wow, great❤!

[@josephcormier5974]

Thank you for sharing this with us six stars

[@martiebrowa5199]

Nice great inverter watching from the Philippines

[@Sparkeee1978]

3 of those 12K units would be pretty sweet for getting quality three phase power in a workshop, where single phase is the only option from utility.

[@centro8894]

pretty cool

[@timgerk3262]

Excellent call-out for surge capacity! A horsepower rating would be cool to know too, for pumps and power tools.

[@antialias4205]

thank you

[@Ntombizithini]

Thank you will I have learned a lot from your videos even build a working very small power system from you 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾💞💞💞

[@ThunderChicken1]

You are awesome.

[@vevenaneathna]

sometimes you get stuff wrong in your videos but usually the very next video you always correct yourself. most people get to your age and stop learning and just get defensive. thanks for uploading.

[@dfghdfzsd]

absolutely love all the videos! but…. 🤣 no mention of price. i’d also like to know about decibels. opening it up, i know gets monotonous but is still fun- maybe that will come later. on a separate matter, i think a big perk for paralleling 6ks is the redundancy. if you’re really off grid, as in, remote, then it’s nice to know you have 1 or 2 more if one should fail.

[@GadgetReviewVideos]

Hmm, I may need to look into doing the 12K and I am currently working on my BOM, but now you tossed in another option.

[@RicoCantrell]

Dude . Love your edits. Make me need to do better on mine.

[@tumbleweed1976]

Thank you Will.

[@andrewfidel2220]

This seems almost perfect for an RV, I wonder if you fed it a 30A RV source that was split to feed both L1 and L2 and limited it to 15A on the AC input if it could deal with them being matching waveforms? If so this would be a big step up from the Victon x2 because the Victon is only 3kva and 24V on the battery side.

[@bobolones6834]

Looks great! One thing I would love to see is how fast these EG4 inverters switch between Grid and Inverter mode. Thats one thing I wish I had known about the LVX6048. Mine has a pretty bad transfer switch function.

[@randya9143]

My 6000xp transfers from pv to grid so fast that my computers stay on and I don't notice any light flicker. My battery may be providing a little cushion though.

[@keything8487]

awesome information.........thank you.

[@attainconsult]

great testing is there some generic soft start adaptors / equip you could use if you don't have the surge capacity in your system?

[@milliondollar2981]

CANT‼️,,Stop🛑,,watching these Videos,,,,I am really geting Smart😎

[@davidtreichelpppj5304]

Pretty high level electrical talk . I hope to catch up . Interesting possibilities I see . Thanks

[@McTroyd]

Will's gonna get a Dr. Frankenstein thing going trying to load down these inverters. You should totally put a Jacob's Ladder in the background of your shop somewhere. 😆⚡👍

[@j4k3br4k3]

Love this 12k, i think its the right balance of cost/performance/features/durability. Love the pricepoint and size of the 6k but the durability makes it a non-starter for outdoor installs.

[@jake-mv5oi]

How's the idle draw? Thats some awesome testing of its surge capacity. Eat your heart out Schneider.

[@wakawaka1976]

Will watching Will for advice is pretty epic

[@Clif_Brown]

Just add a soft start unit to the 5ton AC unit (~5Kw), even a smaller system unit will start it since there is no Locked Rotor Amps surge. I did that to my own 5 ton AC and can be easily run with a 6kw generator.

[@paulkramer4176]

VERY interesting! Yeah, I have had inductive loads well over that! I have a 5 hp 220 sander, that would not start (inrush on the motor was 180amps) on my system. I have 4 outbacks (3400 or so each). 70 running amps, and supposedly double that for surge = 140. Would NOT budge it. I am totally off grid, (closest line is 2 miles away). I have a woodshop that has lots of 3 hp motors. I've been off grid for 20 years. Back then, Outback suggested that inverters were not really meant to run motors like 3 hp. (I've done just fine). I've wanted saws that were a bit bigger (my bandsaw and my main table saw are each 5 hp) so I finally figured out to use 3 phase motors with a VFD for each, and use a soft start. That has made things MUCH better. But now I'm getting ready to upgrade my system. I'm sort of limited because all those old devices were built off 12 V systems. I have a couple Lead acid batteries, (fork lift type) and as I said, the inverters are getting old. I'm looking to invest in 48V system, and going to Lithium ion, or maybe even to something newer, like sodium ion in a couple years, (I can let the current batteries last for 2 more years I think). I was looking at the Victron, or the Sol Ark, but maybe the EG4 is an alternative. Certainly a bit cheaper. I was hoping to go below 15K running watts, and would want close to double that for surge, just in case I even wanted to run a 5 hp motor that was NOT 3 phase, but maybe 12K output is ok. My limitations now are battery really. I have more solar than I can use now. with the 12V, just can't use it all. With 48V, then it would be great! so the 12 K has great surge, what is the surge on the 18K?

[@mikemotorbike4283]

he says surge for 12k pv output slightly better than 18k pv 5:27

[@alvinhyman6838]

I've been looking for information on 3 phase of grid capabilities. Haven't seen but one brand that says that their units can be setup for 3 phase. The ifla is hard to beat if you can maintain them and have the room . Good luck with updating your system.

[@WillProwse]

5hp sander!? I need that thing!!!

[@jasonehrich7207]

Would be great to get a noise comparison between the EG4 inverter options.

[@alantyrell41]

I hope you installed the cable GROMMET in the battery supply cable hole.

[@christianperi]

Good testing, should probably wear some electrical isolating gloves when going back and forth touching an open breaker panel. Otherwise good stuff, God bless 🙏

[@joeldcoxks]

Looks like a good product. I know you’ve said you’re going to look at the new Midnite AIO, any chance you’re going to look at the new 10kW Growatt AIO?

[@CCRep123]

I bought an 18kPV when they first came out (trade in... before the 6000XP's were available) & will need another inverter to go with it when I finish my house (23kW of panels) . Looks like I should have waited & gotten two 12kPV's? Price of being an early adopter I guess. 😉 Since you really can't mix & match their tech (inverters or batteries), I think another 18kPV is still going to have to be the plan even though I will never be on-grid & never net-metering. etc. My nature is to overbuild everything...the 18kPV accomplishes this, just at a steeper price. That said, as noted many times before, I really think SS/EG4 should make the 18kPV's, the 6000XP's & now the 12kPV's all play nicely together in the same sandbox. Thereby allowing mixing & matching as well as & ESPECIALLY forward & backwards compatibility. It gets awfully expensive trying to start over each time... unless you are you Will. 😂

[@thinde88]

I wish they would make an outdoor rated 6000xp for people fully off grid that don’t want a loud inverter dumping heat into their house all day. I’m fully off grid and at first had my inverter (growatt 12k) in a closet but because of heat and noise I needed to move it into the crawl space which is a terrible location for access and I’m dreading the day it goes down. I may buy one of these just to have a clean location mounted on the outside of the house. I’ve thought about making my own box but letting heat out without any dirt in is a hard task.

[@WillProwse]

Now that would be cool

[@FauxQue-yk8dt]

I have my LV6548 units mounted outside under a covered screen porch. It's been 2.5 years and there is slight corrosion on the air intake vents and that's it. I'm in Florida with high humidity.

[@callmebigpapa]

@@FauxQue-yk8dt Going to be mounting my 3k like that also, so thanks for sharing you experience as it gives me confidence. ==Florida also

[@loveasapologetics]

10:47 your face is priceless

[@djbarrowjr.6443]

These videos are nice. Just wish I had the income to support my solar dreams haha

[@robyndavis3043]

Finally, i can use it to power my entire house with solar panels!

[@WillBelden]

As much as you hang stuff on the walls, I'd think (rather than tearing up your sheetrock) that you'd have some outer-mounting board of some sturdy material (itself bolted to the studs, of course) that you could tear up as you like!

[@WillProwse]

Yes I have that on the other walls. This is the new wall now. Next will be concrete wall in the new building

[@zfontain1975]

​@@WillProwseWill that eg4 xp 6000 can I hook that to 240 transfer switch?

[@thevanthivarajahyogenthira8058]

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