Just Released! The 7mm PRC Cartridge. Here's what we know.

[@backfire]

On the Backfire website, I have LOTS more data about the 7mm PRC that I neglected to include in the video. backfire.tv/7mm-prc/

[@brandonandrews4539]

just a heads up norma is now loading 6.5 prc and is in stock direct from them.

[@renaissanceman5847]

Dude.. this round does nothing new that other rounds have been doing better for over 20 years... the Lazzoroni 7mms... pushed 175s at over 3,200 ... the 7 STW pushes a 175 ELD at over 3,100 out of a 26"... alot of the newer 7s like the 7 WSM do it too. The only thing special here is the name.

[@billydaugherty8425]

Backfire i was wondering do you by chance sell any Merchandise as in tee shirts or hoodies I really like your logo and would definitely be interested in a hoodie with it

[@backfire]

@@billydaugherty8425 I'm working on it right now. Thanks for asking!

[@billydaugherty8425]

Back fire thank you I love the videos and they have really helped me alot for getting into long range shooting

[@Dalesarty]

I’m very excited about this one, and it’s not short and fat. 👍👍. 175gr has always worked well in 7 Rem Mag for me. But the numbers don’t lie 7mm is a great balance and the numbers on this new cartridge looks well balanced for a new/ updated hunting cartridge. I think the 6.8 sales might suffer if Hornady can get market support and get the ammo to the consumer. Great 👍 video. Thanks for keeping us updated.

[@jic1]

If you are talking about 6.8 Western, it was introduced into a market that already contained several Magnum-class 7mm cartridges, so I doubt one more would make much difference. People who like 7mm cartridges buy 7mm cartridges, people who like 6.8 cartridges buy 6.8 cartridges, and people who like both buy both. If you are talking about 6.8/.270 in general, the fact that the army will be phasing in 6.8x51 over the next few years will probably boost the caliber's overall popularity.

[@jstraus34]

I happen to like fat and short when it comes to cartridges ;).

[@Dalesarty]

@@jstraus34 bigger and badder requires more powder long and fat is wheee it’s at. 😂😂👍👍

[@Freezer003]

This is going to be the "one" for a lot of guys that do long range targets, deer, elk, and bigger game out west.

[@allthingsconsidered3211]

Definately what i was thinking. Although it was fun learning some of my drops, and i still am learning. Taking that out will be great for “up close” hunting and could be saving time and $$$

[@ULFISHGETTER]

300 win is already that

[@Logan-zz5vg]

@@ULFISHGETTER yes it is except the 180 in 300win sucks in the BC compared to 7mm

[@edwardlance2379]

@Dave1525 Dave1525 lol, 7mm stw is overbore to the point barrels are only good for about 600-900 shots....right along with that 28 Nosler....

[@edwardlance2379]

@Dave1525 Dave1525 science ain't your thing huh? 600-900 shots...I guess if you like replacing barrels a lot. 😆😆😆

[@davidszabo6509]

Hey thanks for this update. It sounds exciting. I believe it will be a calibre that many have been waiting for to finally initiate their 'toe dipping' into the world of long range shooting. Not just doing the occasional sight 'n' go before a hunt. Many blessings. I love your content and vibe.

[@pabuffa]

Amazingly, the 30-06 can “still” do it all. Cool idea. Thanks

[@tommeyer6788]

Am glad I held off on the 300 PRC. NOW THE 7 PRC IS COMING OUT I WILL DEFINITELY BE INTERESTED IN THIS.

[@jstraus34]

I see this as being slight incremental improvement over what is currently out there but with the right marketing and hype it will probably do well. I guess a similar comparison would be 260 rem vs 6.5 cm, incremental was all took to make it one of the most successful cartridges in the last 20 years. Not throwing shade on the Creedmoor, I love it and it has become my favorite deer sized game cartridges, probably main reason is its so enjoyable to shoot and just kills deer well. As for the 7 PRC, not sure that this is much better than 7 Mag or even something like 300 WSM. Time will tell...

[@MF-Rell]

I'm honestly impressed. I know a lot of hunters wouldn't be but if someone is in the market for a new rifle it's a no brainer. Can't wait to see the reviews on it.

[@TheWVgoodguy22]

Awesome to finally get some information on the 7 PRC that you have been teasing for a while. Depending upon if they make it in a left hand rifle in something under $1200 and have available brass and load data, I might be tempted to sell my heavy 300 WSM for the 7 PRC. Thanks for sharing this Jim

[@stevenlewis6781]

I've always felt the 7mm Remington Magnum was the perfect combination for ballistics, recoil, and knock down power. This is the modern version of it and like mentioned in the video it'll have a faster twist barrel and just wait till the 200 grain class bullets come out for it.

[@Nick-ih3xg]

reloading that thing I bet you could get a 200 grain bullet going almost 3k or maybe 3k

[@Heavy-C]

@@Nick-ih3xg agree. I'm loading a 150 grain nosler ballistic tip and pushing it 3200 ish fps in my 7mm rem mag and still could push it further I think. I bet this prc round can be pushed quite a bit more.

[@stevenlewis6781]

@@Heavy-C My favorite load is Is the Sierra 168 grain BTHP at 3000fps. This was a winning load at 1000 yard matches and it's just a magnificent flat shooter and wind cutter. I love the 6.5 Creedmoor but this is at a whole nother level. I can imagine this PRC will put those loads in the dust. The potential of this round is frankly amazing.

[@AC-bl1rl]

I may be wrong, but the biggest I've seen so far is the Berger 195. That 190-range, like the Hornady A-tip, will be ridiculous.

[@YourOfficialDailyAmerican007]

Berger has a 195 we shoot over 3k fps. Sierra I think has a 204. I think. Not sure though.

[@sergeantdwz5783]

I don't understand. You can't even get 6.5 or 300 prc ammo for less than 3-4$ a round and the brass to reload is impossible to find. So why come out with another one

[@Mr.Killswitch]

Buy 1 box and you can reload the hornady brass 3-4 times. That works for awhile depending on how much you shoot.

[@Taco-TannerVODS]

Spreads out demand. Instead of 50/50 it's 33/33/33

[@elihedden6052]

Because if you come out with the “next best” Cartridge you can sell it and make money? They’re in business to make money dude.

[@nj-bz8pv]

And Hornady is woke garbage. No thanks

[@sergeantdwz5783]

@@Mr.Killswitch that would last me about a month

[@NELLY-jg2rx]

Omg omg omg omg, my beloved 7mm family gets another member!

[@Eric--zs6um]

Just another bandwagon to hop on.

[@youngin881]

I know right??? I almost Peed myself😳

[@NELLY-jg2rx]

@@Eric--zs6um let me ride whatever wagon I want lol

[@jfess1911]

The lack of a rebated rim is considered an advantage. I just watched a video in which George Gardner of GA Precision was interviewed. He stated that he preferred non-rebated-rim cartridges for better feeding and that some rifle builders refuse to build repeating rifles for the WSM and SAUM rebated cartridges. The PRC cartridges are based on the RCM cases which have max body size of 0.532", the same diameter as the rim.

[@estrada20100]

I personally have been holding off on getting a rifle and 6.5 or 300 PRC for this reason I love 7MM and I cannot wait to buy a rifle and 7MMPRC

[@Nostradamus_Order33]

How about 7mm Mauser

[@estrada20100]

@@Nostradamus_Order33 I have am 8mm k98

[@theoriginalDAL357]

@@Nostradamus_Order33 Forget that old cartridge and step into the 21st century! If you're not frying your barrel within 1500 rounds, you're doing something wrong. 😉

[@Nostradamus_Order33]

@@estrada20100 awesome, I want one

[@Nostradamus_Order33]

@@theoriginalDAL357 The parent case of the 30-06, 270, 280, and 300 Savage is the 275 Rigby, also called 7x57, and 7mm Mauser

[@kerrynixon3968]

Thank God, another new cartridge, been like two weeks since we had one, holy shot

[@dinsixiengmay9781]

Been hold off on buying a 7 rem for 3 years and hoping they would come out with a 7mm PRC, my 🙏have been answered Finally. Can't wait for some reviews.

[@DDay336]

Been waiting for this!!!

[@blakelafleurCECOLC]

I can’t wait to see recoil and ballistics from this thing. I’ve been wanting to build a 280ai for a while but this just might change my tune

[@johnlocke_1]

Likewise

[@treasurestatetarantulas406]

She’ll have a little bark to her

[@Eric--zs6um]

Run a throated in the 280ai and you'll practically have same numbers.

[@czwarlord9243]

Same

[@brianvickery4071]

Same here. I got a messed up shoulder so recoil will be big thing, but will also through a brake/suppressor combo on it to help mitigate it some.

[@sethhughes2163]

I wholeheartedly agree on the applications for this hot number! Appreciate your time and content, KUDO'S brother!

[@davidhenson5876]

I don’t get too excited about the cartridge of the month that seems to be the case these days. But…this is different. The 7mm diameter seems to fill the sweet spot in ballistic efficiency considering the propellants and bullets available, and this particular case seems to maximize all the variables. I’ve got a 90’s model 700 in 7 Mag that might be in line for a new tube in 7PRC. Here’s my problem…I’m not a “long range” hunter, and most other folks aren’t either. I’m satisfied to keep all shots within 400 yards and I’m wondering if the 7PRC with a slower twist barrel coupled with a screaming 140 grain premium bullet, might be the ultimate point blank range rifle for shooting out to a quarter mile without scrambling for the range finder? What do you guys think? Most of the information concerning the 7mmPRC seems to omit the lighter weight bullets…

[@davidhenson5876]

Forgot to mention- that the reason this cartridge grabbed my attention in the first place… is that it headspaces on the shoulder vs trying to headspace on a belt while trying to keep shoulder tolerance to a minimum. A more solid handlloading proposition.

[@birddogmi67]

I really like your breakdowns in terms of hunting

[@deanmorris6679]

Good luck finding primers, powder and brass. Brother just bought a 28 nosler and 7mm bullets are impossible to find.

[@TODinWY]

I fully agree with you, Jim. This one is going to be the next Creedmoor.

[@jason91notch]

Nah, far too much recoil for Creedmoor fan boys. Which is silly to me, but to each their own I guess.

[@RMM--uv7uk]

I'm glad you brought up BC and explained why this 7mmPRC will be a game changer. We will just have Hornady comes up with. I'm sure they will have very High BC bullets in their ELD-M and ELD-X bullets. I'm looking forward to it!!!!

[@SpudOutdoors]

It’s not a game changer. 7 mag blows it away. The loads he uses are low pressure. Plus you can get 20 reloads out of a 7 mag no problem on a single piece of brass.

[@TXRed1836]

I load 7mmRM with 175 eld-x to 3000-3050fps (depending on temp, it gets damn hot and pretty cold in Texas). If I felt I needed a more capable 7mm, I believe I would just go strait to a 7RUM with a chamber cut for the 190-195 grainers.

[@j5long]

Stop making so much sense it's boring !

[@dennismacwilliams196]

This sounds so good.

[@justinmochi7323]

I literally started jumping up and down when I saw this

[@Jeff_Seely]

Thanks for showcasing this new round. Yes you can do everything and more with the 28 Nosler. Truth be told, both cartridges are overbored. If you feel like you need all of that long range performance for hunting then by all means go out and get either one. I prefer to take game at closer range and then I don't have to contend with variables I have a lesser control of.

[@HollywoodMGB3]

Thank you for another great video ! After cartridge wars I was sold on a 7MM Rem mag..... glad I did not order it. Looks like the 7PRC will be the one.

[@cornbreadburgess1950]

Thanks for the update brother, see you on the next one, God bless everyone.

[@mrzrog]

I bought a 6.5 PRC and fell in love. I told my rifle maker “if they make a 7mm PRC, I’m going to make one.” Well, looks like I’m going to start saving for a new custom build

[@blackhouse7646]

Where did you get the action and barrel from?

[@malachiwhite356]

Ever chronographed it?

[@guardianminifarm8005]

I am very, very interested as a 7 mm mag shooter for 3 decades. Well done.

[@SteveZ919]

If you're a factory load guy....the 7mag is MUCH easier to find ammo than any PRC.

[@guardianminifarm8005]

@@SteveZ919 Very true. Anticipate future availability of other offerings to be better. I can hope.

[@natehayes82]

Pretty solid round. I'm happy with my 6.8 western so probably won't get one but if I had waited, I'd give it a serious look

[@Steve-yr5vi]

Sounds awesome; there was no doubt in my mind a fresh look to improve it's long distance capability with the 7mm would yield a stupendously preforming bullet. Still I'm gonna stick with my RM.

[@TheFoxalot]

I’m always wow’ed by every episode you have. Thank you 🙏 very much for producing beyond excellent content.

[@TXGRunner]

The ammo makers charging 400% over 2019 prices promise they are working at max capacity, but are suffering from critical component shortages. Then their marketing people tell us these new cartridges are in no way affecting production of ammo for the hundreds of millions of guns already in existence. What are they using for primers, unicorn farts?

[@chickenandbaffles5437]

I was going to get a 300 PRC rifle but now may have to get a 7. 22” barrel would be my choice if I could choose.

[@toddparsons2980]

Been looking forward to this release. Curious about its case and cartridge length and what rifle manufacturers might do.

[@SJVA]

Thanks Jim. Another excellent video. 🎥🎬

[@lawrencecardente533]

No mention of the 7MM Winchester short mag, 7MM Weatherby mag, 7MM Shooting Times Westerner, 7MM RUM, 284 Winchester or 7MM Sharp and Hart. Fast twist all of the 7MMs. load 180 grain bullets, do a head to head comparison and then, let us see the results

[@tommyj7087]

Off thr shelf ballistics equal to my 7SS. Nice. When I can get a Savage UltraLite in this, with 3+1 or more capacity, I will get rid of my current setup. Nice video!

[@redleg84]

I don't think I'd give up my 7ss for a savage but seeing the identical MV would have me considering it in the future

[@ertatta]

This new 7 really should’ve been modeled after the 7SS. I’m not seeing the point of having to go LA with the 7prc

[@tommyj7087]

@@redleg84 Only give up the 7SS for a Savage UltraLite 7PRC because my 7SS is a PIG @ 15lbs and I would like it's performance in a more manageable mountain gun.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

helpful. thanks.

[@raymccormick3539]

We're not really seeing new cartridges, but upgraded platforms. The 6.5 creed. is just a 260 rem. with faster rate of twist. The 6.8 western is a 270 wsm with a faster rate of twist and both have longer necks for longer bullets. If you,re punching paper at 500 to 1000 yards the new and improved might help, but hunting 450 yards and under probably not. New bullets like the Barnes LRX lets you get the same energy out of say a 130gr. 30 cal as a conventional 150gr. 30 cal., and velocity and bullet design make more energy than any other factors.

[@bryanrmcnair01]

Nice input...i have a 260 and 280 and enjoy both!

[@JAKesler]

6.8 western and 7prc are the 2 that I'm most interested in comparing. its a little apples to oranges. but having good energy and ballistics in common it all seems to lean 6.8 in terms of manageability, especially for an off hand shot for intermediate shooters who need power.

[@Inveniam22]

280 AI smokes 6.8 western

[@natehayes82]

6.8 western is a fantastic cartridge

[@leifhoklin2681]

I predict that 6.8 Western is not long for this world. Yes it provides a means of shooting heavier, high B.C. .277 bullets at higher velocities than the .270 Win could push them (if the .270 Win were able to stabilize them). However, it just doesn’t add enough utility given the plethora of cartridges available that already do the job better . The obvious comparison to the 6.8 Western for backcountry western hunting is the 7mm Remington Magnum. There is no added value or performance gain to choose the 6.8 over the 7 magnum…unless you’re a twerp that has to shoot a short-action cartridge. I’m a .270 guy. It’s my favorite cartridge, and I’m aware of its capabilities and weaknesses. I’m also a whitetail hunter in the big woods of northern Mn. I don’t need a rifle optimized for killing 700 pound elk at 600 yards. I think there are better calibers than .277 for shooting elk at those extended ranges. IMO, .284 cal is the ground floor for suitably long-range elk guns. I think .30 cal magnums are far better choices, actually. Why play around with smaller bore options that are moderate magnums at best (I.e. 6.5 PRC, 6.8 Western), when you could shoot a .300 Win Mag, .300 PRC, .300 ultra, etc? Idk, just my 2 cents.

[@phild9813]

Hornady has been winning with marketing in the last decade, so I think it may just kill the 6.8 western. Performance is probably so similar that it may not matter. Unfortunate, as I like the 270 caliber rounds more than 7s. No reason in particular.

[@JAKesler]

@@leifhoklin2681 I think what alot of these new cartridges and moderate magnums bring to the table is efficiency. To get the most out of a design. And I think they are important for having more effective cartridges going forward. I could probably take anything with a 300 prc but if I don't need that much power or only occasionally go for larger game sometimes having that flexible rifle is a better 1 gun situation than the largest calibers

[@rpk5250]

Great video. I think that you may be one of the first people I have ever heard explain why the sevens hit that sweet spot. It still confuses me a little bit about why a cartridge has to be long to have a high VC that’s for another time. I know that nobody wants to hear this but “sprinkling some Creed” on new cartridges makes for a winner

[@lcjjr.6714]

Please compare a standard 7mag 180 grain vs the 7PRC 180 grain. Would be interesting to see. Thanks

[@erniemadrid1739]

Compare the Hornady 190 A Tip to it

[@smallmountiancrawler9709]

Excellent! I appreciate every video of yours that I have seen. You have a very happy subscriber here. Keep up the good work!

[@Nick-ih3xg]

7 prc looks like a beast of a cartridge

[@danielwood5297]

Love seeing all the new cartridges and new data. Refreshing to see that we are still trying to improve on design and improve ballistics. It's progress. Am I going to go out and get one, probably not. It's going to do the same thing that a lot of other cartridges I already have, do, kill deer. Only thing is that where I live, there's not many places where I'm going to need to take a shot that's further than a few hundred yards at the most.

[@stevehurt5626]

As a professional working in this field, I can honestly say this is the first new cartridge to excite me in 40 years. Case capacity is spot on - case length to handle the long high BC bullets with good case/cartridge to magazine relationship - right calibre, right velocity and perfect barrel twist. Why did it take sooooo long? Couldn't ask for a better balanced medium/large game cartridge. I won't be getting suckered in to the ultra heavy bullets though, or the confused Target/Match BC's applied to hunting application. (This was a bit of an unfortunate oversell). A GOOD copper bullet weighing 150 grains will have the same displacement as a 180 gr jacketed lead, and will do a better job, with less recoil. Perfect for my hunting application. Hurry up and make the @#$% things please. If these things had been developed 20, 30 or 40 years ago, there wouldn't be near so many other 7 mm cartridges on the market at all, and I suspect a good many of the current ones are now headed for obsolescence. Hornady should be congratulated. Coming from a competitor, there can be no higher praise.

[@1776carpediem]

@@ronlowney4700 not really why you’re getting so sensitive about this buddy. No need to take personal cheap shots. Calm your hormones

[@adqak503]

A very thorough review, well done. I also appreciate the observations you make, such as “Hornady doesn’t make rifles.”

[@malachiwhite356]

Does anyone other than a competitive shooter know what a 7 GunWorks LRM is? Hey?

[@bustabass9025]

Hmmmm, Remington and Winchester have been making both rifles and cartridges forever. Both with a legacy of stellar histories in the areas of cartridge and rifle development. Not sure I fully understand his rationale, but certainly don't agree with his conclusive point that somehow Hornady enjoys an advantage as a single focused ammunition producer. Sounds like that was an obligatory statement scripted solely for Hornady's benefit.

[@texpatriot8462]

I wish they would produce brass for their existing cases. I have never seen 6ARC cases for sale.

[@ddn79]

I was shooting a 7WSM with the 180gr bergers at 2950-3000FPS years ago.

[@hxl6162]

Keep the good work, thanks for the quality information, best wishes from Brazil.

[@michaelnyden8056]

Can’t wait for when he can do a proper long barrel breakdown of 277 fury and compare it to 6.5 CM and PRC

[@elterga6224]

Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if 7 PRC fell to the wayside. I feel like 7 mag is comparable enough for the average shooter to not notice. The extra 400 fps is pretty cool though

[@57HEMIviken]

Yea i wont be trading my Browning BAR 7mag in anytime soon. Ill take the way less recoil over being able to shoot something 3 properties away lol.

[@diogenes5381]

Large case volume small bullet. Like the 220 Swift, a barrel burner. Throat erosion will limit barrel life & number of accurate rounds fired. Just for consideration.

[@seanwhite304]

My favorite Hornady designs are the PRC Line up and 6mm ARC. 6mm ARC is by far my favorite Hornady design . I would be very interested in 6mm-PRC because I already have 6mm bullets. I seriously doubt Hornady would do that because of the 6CM but if they did that would be the PRC I'd get

[@Nick-sx6jm]

So basically the 7 prc is a factory offering of a handloaded 7 mag. If you just handload the mag you will get the same performance as the factory loaded 7 prc. I dont really see the point of this cartridge. We already have the mag, 7 AI, 7 wby, or just go big and get the 28 Nosler, STW, or RUM.

[@davhuf3496]

In an age of excess this is a very sensible and practical cartridge.

[@robertcarey3383]

It appears they designed this cartridge to shoot a bullet they already had, a .284 caliber 180 grain ELD-X. The 7mm mag usually comes with a 9 1/2 twist barrel and won't fully stabilize that 180 grain bullet. I think you are right this thing might really catch on. I would buy a 6.5 PRC except for the fact I don't think 6.5 diameter bullet is adequate for Elk sized game. This will give you everything good about the 6.5 PRC and fix everything wrong with it at the same time.

[@atomicwedgie8176]

Scandinavian countries have been using the 6.5 for decades on moose-sized game.

[@veteranironoutdoors8320]

6.5 prc is more than adequate for elk. I know many people who use the 243. They arent as tough as people make them out to be.

[@robertcarey3383]

@@veteranironoutdoors8320 I agree that shot placement is more important than caliber and I am sure there have been thousands of Elk taken with 243 and I have also heard of 22-250 being used successfully as well, however if I was going to buy a gun specifically for elk or moose hunting it would not be 6.5 caliber. If that is what you would choose, I am in no way saying that is wrong.

[@MTMILITIAMAN7.62]

I am a fellow fan of the 7mms. And I really hope the 7mm PRC brings the .284s into the spotlight. I think it is long overdue. The PRS and long range hunting markets are exploding, but for whatever reason, the caliber with the best long range bullets has been largely ignored in favor of 6.5s and .308s. It has never made sense to me, since the 7mm is arguably better than either of those. The best BCs, the best combination of external ballistics, terminal ballistics, and recoil. The .284s are just stacked with so many good cartridges that just don't get the credit they deserve. Going back over 100 years to San Juan Hill and the experience of the Rough Riders facing down the superior 7x57 Mauser to the present, with the 7mm SAUM fading into obscurity even though it beats the 6.5 PRC in every respect; the .284 Win, the 7mm-08, the .280 AI...so many good cartridges that have worked so hard to remain relevant despite offering class leading ballistics. So again, we are talking BCs here. The 7mm is a sweet spot. You can get higher BCs in larger calibers, but you have to get over 230 gr in .30 cal and usually over 280 gr or so in .338 to do so, and pushing those heavy of bullets as fast as a 7mm Rem Mag or a 7mm PRC can push their bullets leads to quite an increase in recoil. For example, considering Hornady's line up, between the 6.5mm, the 7mm, and the .308 cal, the highest BC SST is the 162 gr 7mm, the highest BC ELD-X is the 175 gr 7mm, the highest BC ELD-M is the 180 gr 7mm, and the only Atip that can beat the 190 gr 7mm is the 250 gr .308 cal. As dominant as the .284s are for BCs, it actually makes no sense for Hornady to have not introduced the 7mm PRC first, because it is absolutely to best of the bunch right out of the gate.

[@ertatta]

284’s/7mm’s are still the choice in the F-class world and for good reason. PRS guys are all about no recoil coming from the 6mm.

[@wyatthumphries5702]

I have already necked a 300prc down to 7mm and have been playing around with it for awhile and what I have noticed it has the same ballistics as my 28 nosler with the same wheat of bullets. The only thing that makes them a little different is that I was able to get 800 rounds through my Bartlein barrel before it burnt out and had to do a barrel swap but that is a 200 round increase over my 28 nosler. With my 28 nosler I was only able to get 600 rounds before the barrel is burnt out. Other then that small difference they are ballistically the same.

[@craigschaefer8764]

Hornady. Talk about an innovative company

[@chrome8675]

I don't blame you for not even mentioning the 7mm WSM, as it has ballistics so identical in a shorter case that it would only promote the 7WSM.

[@mariocabella5476]

This is new gold standard for long range target and hunting shooting. Best Hornady’s Home Run. Get one!!!

[@kmhendrickson]

Sounds like a great new cartridge, I don’t have any 7mm guns but for those that already have a 28 Nosler, couldn’t you just back it off a little and get the same numbers, you don’t have to run max loads do you? Factory ammo is watered down anyway, if the box says you will get 2960 with this new 7mm PRC you’ll probably end up around 2850-2900 real world speeds. I’ll bet you can push it to 3000 with hand loads though. If Elk is on the menu I personally prefer a 30 cal, but the 7mm works fine. It’s a good size if you only have one gun.

[@WantingWilderness]

The other benefit is the 1:8 twist rate. The SAAMI spec on the 28 Nosler is 1:9 which is too slow to really stabilize those heavy bullets. I had my 28 cut with a 1:8.25 twist.

[@ReferenceFidelityComponents]

Two words: meat damage. At that velocity a large 7mm 180gr will do a heck of a lot of bruising and meat damage partly through hydraulic shock. No need for such high energy loadings except maybe fir dangerous plains game. A 140gr 6.5 is a high BC combo and at “only” 2600 fps carries more than enough velocity to 500 yds to cleanly drop deer (or most other large game). The 7prc is also likely to have short barrel life at those mv’s

[@JoshuaSaundersAtLarge]

well... now I know what I want for Christmas if it's on the market.

[@jimbo2.094]

I still can’t even find 300 PRC brass. So maybe I can load for this in 5 years?

[@jeffreylocke8808]

Modern cartridge design with a 7mm bullet. The 7mm PRC makes a lot of sense. With longer and heavier bullets.

[@gunnaraw]

I think it will be great with the 175 gr Hornady ELD-X and the 168 gr Barnes LRX.

[@mikebrown788]

Oh look, another PRC caliber that is not going to be available. Way to go Hornady.

[@Jeff_Seely]

Thanks for covering this new cartridge. For me it's just too close to what I already have. Spending a few thousand dollars and that small of an advantage, the benefits aren't enough. Now if you were thinking of buying a 7 mm mag, then it is a wise consideration. With this cartridge you are betting on it being commercially available everywhere and it may not be like that. Also we all know these rifle companies would sure be happy to sell you a rifle every year and that's really why these cartridges go to market.

[@woodynichols2542]

Atleast you can find ammunition for a 7mm mag .I had to get into a bidding war for 2 boxes of 6.5 prc on Gun Broker and almost a year later I still haven't found anymore .I'm done with the PRC''s until they can supply us with ammunition.

[@Jeff_Seely]

Yeah, I feel it too. With a couple of other cartridges. It is still ugly out there but getting slightly better. Now, if I could find reasonable primers🤣

[@dolinchristine8820]

Love watching your video very informational about all kids of things and has help me understand more

[@cornbreadburgess1950]

Thanks for the update on the 7... but many people and me want to know , where's the ammo right 👍,I love new stuff, but how will we get brass etc,I do reload and love it,we are getting ready for black powder now can't wait for that, God bless everyone and have a great day.

[@ringingiron]

Ha, I just exchanged emails with Hornady customer support asking them if there was a 7MM PRC in the near future, and they told me not yet, but product releases were due in October… I’ve been hoping for 7PRC and was on the fence about the 300 PRC, mostly because my interest in it was more for Long Range Competition with Hunting secondary. I think it’s going to be a sweet spot PRC cartridge.

[@redneckcatfishing]

I still can't find 270 ammo and they are releasing new cartridges

[@coyotehammer1438]

It’s called marketing!

[@elkhuntr2816]

In my mind it is the out of the box accuracy of all of the PRC rounds using factory ammo and factory rifles. If you are a long range hunter, past 500 yards it isn't just the drop, velocity, and energy that matter. Accuracy can become the bottleneck out past 500 yards. If my factory 7mm mag shoots 1.25 to 1.5 moa out of the box, that's up to a 15" group at 1000 yards. If a factory PRC rifle / cartridge shoots .75 moa out of the box, thats a 7.5" group at 1000 yards.

[@thatswhatshesaid8404]

About 4 years ago I got the crazy notion that it would be fun to wildcat a round. As a daydreamed and imagined what it would be like to wildcat around, I thought what would be the round that I would create? What would it be? And this is pretty much the exact round that I dreamed up. Of course what I’m referring to is just dreaming I never actually did anything about it. Lol

[@k4391]

Looks like they still have the case at the .200 line to tight. Clicks will follow just like the 6.5 and 300.

[@ancientrenegade9243]

It’s got less case capacity than a 7 rem mag. I’ll stick with my custom chamber cut and 1 in 8 twist 7 rem mag shooting the 190gr a tips. I head space off the shoulder already.

[@mikeborrelli193]

Shouldn't all rimless bottle neck cartridges headspace off the shoulder?

[@ancientrenegade9243]

@@mikeborrelli193 belted magnums were designed to head space off the belt, that's what it was there for.

[@jimmoseley2983]

What powder and MV are you getting with the 190's?

[@mikeborrelli193]

@@jimmoseley2983 A 7mm 190gr bullet must have an incredibly high sectional density and ballistic coefficient. You're basically shooting ice picks.. A bullet like that would have incredible penetration. A custom cut chamber is probably a must because that bullet is going to need a longer a longer throat.

[@mryang3644]

Anxious for someone to compare it to the Sherman in the near future..

[@bigrainbow25]

My Grandson who works for a gun store just sent me a pic of a Christensen Traverse in a 7mm PRC 26 in barrel they just got in ... I was holding our for the new Fierce XP with the adjustable comb and drop out mag box....I ve looked through your videos and could not find a review on the Traverse...hook me up if you did or thoughts between the two if you havent reviewed one...thanks Jim

[@grimkr33per]

Very interesting and good info as always

[@llamawizard]

Sounds like a good option if you like the 280 Nosler but want your barbell to last longer

[@rodneybumgarner5514]

Barrels will be on the shorter side for hunting.look at the Gunwerks rifles one of the big advantages of the round is the barrel length isn't as important as it was in the past. We have a 7mmlrm which produces good velocity. 👍

[@mrmayhemstewart5138]

What does the LRM stand for is it long range magnum cheers Yogi 🇦🇺🤙🤙

[@jebbum1998]

Yes sir. Gun werks has had this for a while. My son had a barrel chamber with a 22 inch barrel for hunting with a suppressor. Getting over 2900 fps with 162 eldx.

[@bustabass9025]

7mag and 28 Nosler. They'll close the gate on North American big game any distance, anywhere, anytime. I never bash new cartridges, I just know what I have and what it'll do. These are all I need to do what I want to do.

[@blakelafleurCECOLC]

Hey Jim you missed something that I think will be interesting…. What kind of twist rates will we be talking here? 6? 5? 4? Could be crazy fast twist rates!

[@exothermal.sprocket]

I was waiting for that mention too. I'm guessing 1:8 to 1:7 area.

[@Nick-sx6jm]

Lol 1:4, no. Most rifles will be chambered in 1:8 - 1:8.5

[@leonardogarcia2506]

I’m hoping it will get support from adg and Peterson or lapua so we could get great brass or it would be the same story as the 7 lrm. I think the biggest complaint with 7 lrm is the brass. Only hornady brass so maybe 4 firings?? Also, I’m pleased with the neck length! It should keep the flame into the brass neck and not so much on the barrel throat.

[@vervlogan]

For the 7mm PRC, if you were loading 150 CX or the 150 tipped tsx or the 140/168 lrx would you see an issue with using large rifle magnum on all? I am doing my first build of a bolt action and want to reload for it. I was originally thinking of doing the 150cx or the 150 tipped tsx. But I saw in your article you didn't use magnum primers.

[@kilosoutdoors2706]

I would like to see a breakdown of all the comparisons on one chart with all of these calibers including 6.5 CM, 6.5 PRC, 270 Win, 270 WSM, 6.8 Western, 7mm Rem Mag, 7mm PRC, 280 Rem, 280 AI, 300 Win Mag, 300 WSM, 300 PRC At minimum & mostly interested in 270 WSM, 6.8 Western, 7mm Rem Mag, 7mm PRC all on one chart.

[@moomoomlik99]

I just hope when they release the 7mm PRC they release at heavy 7mm ELD-X

[@shannonnunn]

Hornady stole the arc... That 7 mm has been out for a while... I designed an exact design ..

[@BMXrider915]

Do you think Hornady will make a new ELD-X for this cartridge or do you think they will just put the 175 grain ELD-X. Also think the Berger 195 grain EOL will be very interesting for this cartridge.

[@muleycrazy121]

The reason Hornady does so well is they make sure there is brass and bullets available for there new rounds

[@phild9813]

I’m having a little trouble wrapping my head around the BC of the 6.8 v 7 in the chart at about 8 minutes. The 6.8 is a smaller diameter with a very small decrease in bullet weight but its BC drops by over 15%. I sure would think those numbers should be a lot closer, and I suspect functionality they are.

[@backfire]

It’s really just because there is no high BC ELD-Match bullet for the 6.8 western. So it’s using a Berger in the comparison.

[@phild9813]

Ah, thanks for the clarification, I must’ve missed that!

[@vitaly6312]

I like the innovation and all of that, especially when it comes to precision shooters - y’all have fun! But for hunting, I just don’t think this is any better necessarily. I don’t think most people are looking to shoot 910 yards at an animal, nor do I think that heavier bullets are needed in a 7mm. Most of the people looking for something bigger for say dangerous game will go with 300, 338, 7RUM, etc. I just don’t have the same optimism for this round as you, but I also hope that I’m wrong.

[@northernoutdooradventures3883]

Just a touch too much recoil for me.... I had a detached retina in my youth and just don't feel comfortable pushing my luck much past 30/06 7mm mag levels. Looks like a cool idea though.

[@Trudeau-is-Stalin]

Muzzle brake and Wait for a company like bergera to chamber it in their rifles which are usually medium to heavy weight barrels instead of pencil sporter weight barrels

[@stevenlewis6781]

PRC won't recoil much more than the Remington Magnum. A good brake works wonders. I have a .300 win mag that punishes without the brake. With it it feels less than a.308.

[@northernoutdooradventures3883]

@@Trudeau-is-Stalin fair enough! I am already using brake on my 7mm Rem mag though. It's just better safe than blind 😎 Also I would only be getting A 7PRC for elk hunting in the mountains. I would want a sporting profile barrel for that use. My heavy barrel AR10 works great for the Michigan deer woods!

[@SteveZ919]

I got a 300win with less recoil than my 308 (doesn't have the same break). Having a 300win has me not wanting any other big caliber, especially since finding ammo has been easy lately compared to ANY of this PRC business. kzbin.infocQgSTJhNmq0?feature=share

[@hardr0cker64]

@@Trudeau-is-Stalin I bought a Bergara and don’t think I’d buy anything else. Maybe a browning xbolt

[@ChristopherKnN]

So, when my 28 Nosler barrel burns out, maybe I'll get a 7PRC instead of rebarreling. I reload so it will be a bit of a conversion.