They Are Wrong About The 6.5 PRC

[@r1299]

In the mid 1990s people would laugh at my 6.5-284. pushing 140 grain Sierra match King @3000fps. I couldn't convince anybody about the 6.5, now it's "the new thing"

[@ChronicalsofAl]

Takes years to become an overnight success.

[@EricChmelarsky]

264 win mag. Has been doing a 140@ 3000 a loooooong time! Nobody liked it either.

[@ChronicalsofAl]

@@EricChmelarsky yes, would love a model 70 in 264 win mag but haven't found that pot o' gold yet

[@Six_One_Six]

Late 90's into the mid 2000's we shot the CRAP out of 6.5-284 in club matches...

[@bingoberra18]

In Sweden we have been using the 6.5x55 since 1894, it is still our most common rifle competition ammo.

[@Gizmoimages]

Being a reloader for thirty years I used to say "O'Brother" listening to you. I'm impressed with the knowledge you've gained over the years. You're becoming someone to listen to now. Good job with improving your knowledge, and communicating that!

[@mattwhite5572]

I’m an elk guide in New Mexico and one of the other guides picked up a seekins havak in 6.5 prc topped with a maven rs.4 and that setup has probably taken 30 bull elk, several oryx and multiple antelope, deer, and aoudad. We haven’t lost a single animal with it. Shooting 147 eld match

[@deltadefensetactical2655]

My home state love it . 6.5 is not bad at all

[@jameswatson4110]

6.5 PRC ELDm work really well for me too on hogs and deer. Seems to be a well kept secret.👍

[@danielbell4007]

Out of curiosity, is there a reason to prefer the ELDm over the ELDx?

[@jameswatson4110]

@@danielbell4007 I had lost a deer with a solid hit with the X at 335 yds - broadside in the boiler works. I found him after the meat had spoiled-was able to determine that the bullet did not open therefore no blood for a blood trail. The match will open at any range. There are people using them for elk oryx and moose.

[@adamgarlick6149]

This is great to hear. I just bought that same rifle for my oryx hunt!

[@matthewbennett4496]

You shouldn’t have had to explain yourself. There are some smooth brains out there

[@sethwinn4061]

I have called the 6.5 PRC a 6.5 Creedmoor magnum since I first read about it. And there is about as much ballistic difference between those two as between 6.5 Creedmoor and 6.5 Grendel: roughly 10% more velocity with similar bullet weights from the larger round. Barrel length can exacerbate or even eliminate those ~10% differences. The deer doesn't care if that 6.5mm 129gr projectile is coming from a 6.5 Grendel/Creedmoor/PRC, 6.5x55, 6.5x284, 6.5 SAUM, 6.5-300, 6.5 RPM, 264 Win Mag, or a 26 Nosler. Ultimately the only differences betwwen all of thes 6.5 cartidges are the effective range (based on velocity/bullet performance limits), and the ability of the shooter to hit the target. The latter has more to do with recoil than either bullet drop or wind drift. A 300 Win Mag or PRC provides ~10% more MV than a 30-06. Which is like adding yardage to the effective range of a 30-06. The real-world improvement in yardage evaporates from diminishing returns because more recoil means less accurate shooting. Every shooter at every level typically shoots more accurately with less felt recoil. But people can't accept that. So they buy a whatever magnum to shoot whitetails at 200 yards, and consistently make bad shots or outright miss. They can kill a deer at 600 yards though because they have a whatever PRC or magnum.

[@jcarry5214]

I’m not experienced with magnums but I have a suspicion that they are harder to get as accurate even aside from recoil stress on shooter and system. Slower powders, lower raw repeatability. Just a hunch. But I agree with you wholeheartedly, depending on load, barrel length, etc the prc is just a creedmoor but you get like 20-60 steps closer. 7rm vs 7-08, maybe 100 yards difference at MOST in a hunting rifle. But we have lost track of the real nature if magnum advantages. They’re great at throwing a heavier bullet with high KE a moderate distance or , more importantly, shooting a lighter bullet much flatter and increasing the distance of no-guess holds by 15-25 percent. Thisnis typified by the twin release of the 338wm and the 264 wm. If you’re talking about lobbing the same high bc bullet you’re looking often at a difference of 25-40 yards max effective distance, and this is happening hundreds of yards past the ethical hunting ability of 99.5 percent of shooters.

[@tedarcher9120]

What you don't understand is that even 10% velocity massively decreases drop, because it compounds. So 10% velocity gives around 20-25% less drop

[@sethwinn4061]

@tedarcher9120 oh I understand that. I also understand ballistics calculators help me compensate for all of that, so it's really not a big deal at all.

[@tedarcher9120]

​@@sethwinn4061true, but 25% less drop means that the error is also 25% lower, you can be less precise and use simpler calculations. 6.5 grendel is only 10% lower muzzle velocity than 6.5 creed, but almost 50% more drop

[@tedarcher9120]

Another way to think about is that mighty 7.62x39 AK cartridge is only about 10% more muzzle velocity than a puny 30 carbine bullet than can't even penetrate a denim shirt

[@BigTuna8504]

Backfire, Finally someone mentioned the 3.14r2 reasoning the apparently small bullet diameter differences between calibers result in big frontal area differences. Thank you!

[@kurtwpg]

I calculate this stuff by instinct. It's important if you don't have sectional density numbers in front of you, to for example know that a 139 grain .284 bullet is equivalent to a 165 grain .308 bullet, not 150.

[@8MM.PRC.HUNTER]

The 6.5 PRC is one of the most accurate hunting cartridges I've ever used. After hunting with nearly every bullet diameter from 243 up to 375 I can say that for big game 6.5 is the smallest bore diameter that I consider myself to be well equipped, simply because there's enough bullet weight and sectional density for adequate penetration. If you want a fast, flat, high performance hunting cartridge that is extremely accurate, has enough bullet weight for penetration, has mild recoil, is not ridiculously overbore, and is widely available in both rifles and ammunition, the 6.5 PRC is my top recommendation. A 140 grain Accubond at 3000 fps would do most anything necessary.

[@lycheeznuts]

A 6.5 creedmoor with 147 eldmurders is a much better setup. A third less recoil and you can actually spot shots while still getting 700+ yards. Nobody is shooting a third more recoil better

[@8MM.PRC.HUNTER]

@@lycheeznuts I love the 6.5 Creedmoor - it is one of my favorite cartridges to shoot because of the lighter recoil and it is, if anything, even more accurate than the 6.5 PRC in my experience. But my recommendation above is for a fast, flat, high performance hunting cartridge for big game. I have used the 6.5 Creedmoor and the 260 Remington both for hunting and I've never had an animal get away from either one, but for big game hunting the 6.5 PRC has a bit more velocity and energy and in my experience anchors big game better than either of the other two. And the 6.5PRC is more than accurate enough for any big game hunting anywhere, and it is quite easy to shoot and handle. I don't feel that anyone has any business shooting 700+ yards away at any animal, period. But if you did, the 6.5 PRC would have more energy at that distance than the Creedmoor. To each his own.

[@lycheeznuts]

@@8MM.PRC.HUNTER huh energy is meaningless. You pick the right bullet, put it in the right spot, keep it above the minimum expansion velocity and stuff dies. Could be a bobcat or a moose, doesn't matter. Listen to the shoot2hunt podcast bullet energy is irrelevant it's very insightful

[@8MM.PRC.HUNTER]

@@lycheeznuts I've been a hunter for some 40 years now and I've shot game with a bunch of different calibers and bullets over the years and while a hit with a marginal caliber is far better than a bad shot or a miss with a stronger one, a good hit with a stronger one is better than a good hit with a marginal one. There are many hunters who are able to shoot more powerful cartridges than the 6.5 Creedmoor accurately, myself included. So you continue with your Creedmoor, I will continue killing game with my cartridge of choice. But I suggest you get a lot closer than 700 yards.

[@TODinWY]

I'm betting you never had a .25-06. The 120-grain Partition is a TERROR.

[@roycevaughn6472]

I have a 300prc, 6.5prc and a 7mm prc, as well as other calibers like 270, 300wm, 7mag 30/30, 30/06,308 and many more they all serve a purpose for different roles in hunting like terrain or even weather

[@JPE_DRAEB]

If you can only have one? which one? :)

[@G5Hohn]

I have a 6.5 creedmoor built with a long 28” Bartlein. With 45gr of RL26, I can get a 147 ELD to hit 2900fps. It’s more pressure than I’d prefer to run but the long barrel and RL26 lets me essentially get what most people use the PRC to get. Only with a lot less powder and recoil.

[@bobbygreen2291]

Good job Jim as always,,I’ve shot them all many times ,26 nosler , 264 win mag ,,6.5 rem mag ,,260 Remington,,6.5 creedmoor ,,any of these wonderful cartridges are limited by barrel length and that also includes new cartridges,,point well established Jim.

[@adsaccuracy]

I'm in the U K and use a 270 WSM with 110 Barns ttsx at 3520 fps. It is a laser out to 500. Love It.

[@12thman99]

I use a 270 WSM and also love it. I wish it was used more often in these types of cartridge comparison videos.

[@patmartin4411]

What do you hunt in the UK?

[@adsaccuracy]

@@patmartin4411 Red Deer

[@charltonlwalker]

Does the wind knock that light bullet around at long range?

[@skajun]

I also use the 110 gain ttsx, h4350. Absolute laser and will not come apart

[@georgecarley3314]

I just bought the ruger go wild in 6.5 prc it has been shooting norma whitetail hunting ammo 140 gr at 100 yards .45 inch five different times on different days, needless to say I was pleasantly surprised!

[@Greyzonecompliant]

I just have the 6.5x55. But i keep watching content like this 🤔

[@withoutfurtheradoforever]

Same here.

[@ohmbre300]

Same! I have the ackley as well does the same work.

[@wheelchairhillbilly]

I wish I had a 6.5x55

[@rockylavigna5977]

A while back this guy put a video and said he liked the 6.5 creedmoor way more than the prc and he said the creed delivered more terminal preformance than the prc. I can't finish this video I just don't believe anything this guy says

[@roelguerra2836]

Great video.! I totally understood the first video. Lol. 6.5 PRC is a good new caliber. With that in mind, I shoot 6.5 Creedmoor and 6.5x284 Norma. I handload for both calibers. I can get close to same ballistics with the Creedmoor, out a 24 inch barrel and I can surpass ballistics with the Norma out of a 24 inch barrel. I see no need to add the PRC to the gun cabinet. Thanks for the great video's. ✌

[@mikevieira6373]

I think you touched on some failures of the firearms industry on barrel lengths. Seems like they are pushing lightweight hunting rifles and to achieve this, I see many custom manufacturers (Gunwerks, Bergara, etc..) listing 6.5 PRC rifles with 20” barrel lengths. These short barrel lengths will never achieve the potential of that cartridge. I feel the 6.5 PRC needs a minimum of a 24” barrel, and the larger magnum rifles (7mm Rem Mag & up) need a minimum of a 26”. Why are these manufacturers misleading consumers by touting these hot new cartridges, then chambering the 6.5 PRC in 20” barrel lengths, or the 7 PRC in 22” barrel lengths ?

[@williamgaines9784]

Because fireball size is everything.😂

[@OutsidetheEchochamber]

They are designed to be used with a suppressor. Put a suppressor on a 26” barrel and see how ridiculous it is.

[@phild9813]

Yeah, use with a suppressor is the answer. I personally like a shorter, handier rifle, regardless of suppressor use. So a hotter round with a shorter barrel (6.5prc) is certainly still better than a milder round (6.5cm) with a shorter barrel. I personally would prefer the 6.8 western to either if we’re talking elk.

[@CPLBSS88]

Becasuse so few consumers actually understand what they need.. and short guns look sexy/market well... so it sells...

[@thebryguy96]

Cartridges like the 7 saum, 7ss, 300 saum, 300 wsm, 308, 6.8 western, 6.5 cm are pretty efficient Cartridges in an 18 to 20 inch barrel with a suppressor. A 6.5 prc loses a higher percentage of velociy with a short barrel than the above mentioned Cartridges but it's not bad in a 20 to 22 inch barrel. I agree that if there is no intention to shoot suppressed, a 23 to 24 inch barrel is a more logical choice if velocity is paramount.

[@christophk857]

6:44 quick correction: The entire cartridge length on a 6.5 PRC is 2.955" - as stated correctly. The image however shows only the case being measured, which should be 2.030". Otherwise it would have a case length comparable to a .375H&H Magnum (2.850") or similar Just wanted to let you know, keep up the great work 👍🏼

[@10dannyp89]

I have a 26” 6.5cm and it drives a 140gr to 2900 pretty easily. In soft nosler brass, without giving up case life. It seems that most prc’s come in short barrels and end up in the same place. That said the prc will always be a touch more than a cm all things being equal. But 150ish fps faster with the exact same bullet won’t be noticed on game at normal sub300m distances.

[@andrewcleveland]

My target rifle was a 26” barrel howa in 6.5 CM. With Peterson SRP brass and only 41.5 grains of RL16 ran 2804 fps. It had room to go more but was shooting 1/4” groups so I saw no need to push it further.

[@johandewet2588]

Winchester has the best product in the 6.8 Western, but their marketing department needs to be fired! Like yesterday already! The fact that Hornady claimed the top spot with a very good, yet slightly inferior cartridge should be a crime against gun buyers. We need all gun and ammo manufacturers to get behind the 6.8 Western. It's what we all want and need. Now we are left with buying a 6.5 PRC, but in the back of our minds there is a voice that nags... What if I had bought a 6.8 Western instead? What if there were plenty guns chambered in it? What if ammo was readily available? What if I could find a wide range of barrels and reloading equipment for it? What if? What if? What if? Winchester has charmed us, seduced us with their sexy 6.8, brought us to the the brink of orgasm and then got up and left us with a stiffy.

[@Manbunmen65]

I was going to buy in order of choice a 6.8, 270 wsm, or 6.5 prc last. I got the 6.5 prc because of one thing...Ammo avalibilty. If their own manufacturers don't give us good choices and availability, we won't buy it. It's not marketing that failed. I look at it like this. Hornady went all in and could have lost a lot, but they play texas hold em and go all in. Winchester doesn't play all in, just texas hold em and they are worried, what if. That's why the 6.8 will go into obscruity.

[@kochj0713]

Yes

[@jerryconrad2737]

Sad but true. How can winchester/browning expect other gunmakers and Ammo manufacturers get behind the 6.8 when their offerings have been so anemic. They had a good head start over the 7 prc but squandered it.

[@mr.caceres305]

I have a 6.5 creedmoor and I’ve thought about adding the 6.8 western to the lineup. I’m torn between the 6.8 western and a 30-06

[@mikemelina7395]

@@mr.caceres305 If you're only ever going to own two hunting rifles, I'd go with the 30-06, but the very next cartridge would be the 6.8Western and that would be to the exclusion of the 6.5/7PRCs, both of which it beats out. 6 cartridges cover a huge margin; 30-06, 300winmag, 308win, 7remmag, 243win and 270win.

[@jamiehayes4820]

Just letting you know. That gun room/wall is 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@cwness4587]

You explained what you meant. Not to hard to understand unless your a Fanboy of the PRC. I never buy short barrels for exactly what your describing. Keep up the good work. Very helpful. CW

[@tedarcher9120]

6.8 western is just a monster. That 50% smaller wind drift. Just the best

[@thebryguy96]

The biggest issue i see with most youtube vids are that cartridges are not compared to each other in an apples to apples way. And the bullets and rifle features like barrel length, barrel device (suppressed, brakes, no device), action length, rifle weight, recoil, etc are more important than the cartidge. Different cartridges do things differently and its about creating an efficient platform for the intended job and to match the shooter's needs and abilities. Overall this video was pretty good. I've had a 6.5-06 before it was cool to shoof a 6.5. The 6.5-284 has been around for years and is basically a 6.5 prc in a medium length action. Neither are faster than a 6.5-06 if all use 24 inch barrels with reloads. The 6.5 prc is the more useful of the 3 as it can be shot in either a short or medium action, its slightly better with a sub 20 inch suppressed barrel, its well supported with reloading components and has tons of factory ammo options. In order to compare a 6.5 prc to a 6.5 cm, then we must use similar barrel lengths and bullets. Once a person starts to reload, there are even more options. Generally a 6.5 prc will extend the effective range of a 6.5 cm by 200 to 300 yards due to the higher velocity. Most 6.5 cm are not ideal for hunting with 140 to 147 lead core target bullets which have been adapted to hunting. The 130 to 140 grain bullets are a bit more efficient in a 6.5 cm. The 120 to 130 copper bullets out to 400 yards are legit hunting rounds in either a 6.5 cm or prc. Bullets over 140 grain in the prc start to take up case capacity in a standard throat or short action 6.5 prc. A medium length action is better for shooters wanting to shoot the 144, 147, 153 and 156 match bullets but these are better target bullets than hunting bullets in my opinion. In summary, the 6.5 cm is a better training round and the 6.5 prc is better for hunting. Both are excellent cartridges but with different strengths. Recoil us relatively light on both of them compared to the 7mm and 30 cal magnums. Two days ago i was helping a friend load his custom 22 inch 6.5 prc. He had bought a box of vortex 127 lrx and they shot well. We chronographed 15 shots with an averaged 2975 fps with an es of 34. The rifle has about 500 rounds through the barrel, so it's very broken in We worked up loads with h4831sd from 56.5 to 60 grain using lapua brass and federal 210 primers. The best shooting and a very safe load is in the 58 to 58.5 grain range; velocities were 3140 to 3160 fps. The 60 grain load was near 3240 fps but hotter than i would recommend, even though there were no real pressure signs. This is just an example of what good reloads can do in a great caliber like the 6.5 prc. In theory and using reloads in a long barreled 6.5 cm compared to a short barreled 6.5 prc with factory loads, velocities could be similar but it's an apples to oranges comparison. Hornady has done a great job of launching new calibers. The 6.8 western is probably capable of replacing both a 6.5 and 7 prc but it's not well supported yet. In a custom rifle for a reloader, it's impressive. Thanks for the extra details on the 6.5 prc.

[@thomasdaum1927]

The most important thing you said is the 6.5 06 is faster than the 6.5 PissRC !….. The 6.5 06 has been around for ever and we didn’t ( NEED ) a new cartridge ! Its all about selling new rifles ! New is not always better it’s just different !…….

[@ChronicalsofAl]

James, I understand that you kinda had to make this video, however the original point still remains true. The prc with a short barrel IS virtually the same as the Creed with a longer barrel! I can't see purchasing a prc in a 20" barrel and not just buying a Creed for lower recoil. I've been seriously considering a 6.5 prc 24" gun to do everything for me in a lightweight sheep//goat style gun - perhaps a Kimber84 action with a pencil thin 25" barrel like the mtn ascent or Tikka t3x superlight

[@jonbaniak9097]

You should seriously consider the Bergara Wilderness Ridge Carbon. Lightweight and extremely accurate especially in 6.5 PRC. Love mine!

[@ChronicalsofAl]

@@jonbaniak9097 I will check it out

[@jmed7097]

If you're a sheep hunter then you don't have a budget. Have GA build you one, no one knows it better!

[@jonbaniak9097]

@@jmed7097 why stop there? Fork out $12K to Gunwerks and take all the guesswork out. They put the scope on and develop custom loads for your particular gun. Perfect for the rich guy who doesn’t have the time or the skill to do it himself.

[@ChronicalsofAl]

@@jmed7097 I think the bergara would be a good option to going full custom. If I'm not mistaken, the bergaras were 1st to put the sub moa guarantee on their rifles

[@jer3996]

I took a Bergara hmr in 6.5 prc to a 8" plate on my first day at 250 yards. It was great. But what was better was 2 weeks later hitting a 10" plate at 1030 yards on my cold bore shot. I'm forever sold. For the record I went 6-10.

[@WillLeviMarshall]

I agree with your assessment of a 6.5prc I am from Europe and load a 6.5x55 with a long barrel to within 100fps of a prc so they all work

[@accur81]

Great vid! I was one of the people commenting on barrel lengths and I'm glad you cleared some things up - I have a 20" AR-10 6.5 Creedmoor and a 24" Bergara HMR Pro. I haven't had time to chrono them (4 year old is making suspicious noises in the house as I type this from the garage), but I'm looking forward to it. I confess to occasionally getting mad at the things you say in your vids, but really I wish I could get more range and hunting time. Thank you for the fun and informative content!

[@TheNutzandBoltz]

In a 20" PRC, the only powder that I could get a 143 gr ELD X to 2900 was RL-26 with a mag primer.

[@phantomseven3689]

I’m running a 21” barrel with H-1000 and getting 2960ish. Granted it’s an extra inch and I’m using a suppressor as well. Just fyi in case you hadn’t tried it.

[@matthoward9860]

It watched that video and got your point. You could make the same arguement with a 24 inch barrel 6.5 grendal and a 18inch 6.5 crd. Or with a 24inch 308 and a 20inch 3006. I cut a 308 to 16inch for a bush gun and suppressed it. But when i tried shooting past 300yards it was like lobbing a morter round out there. For ease of carrying it bush i lost my velocity and ablity to take game at longer ranges.

[@hew2001]

264WM, underappreciated but slaying for the last 65 years.

[@sylviacandler5541]

H1000 is awesome in the 264 WM

[@whosnextracingbuddycollins8555]

Imr 4350

[@timothymcknight9485]

I agree. Cartridge way ahead of its time! Love RL-22 and Hornady 143gr. ELD-X bullets.

[@kennethgoin628]

For what little difference exists, I'm just going to stay with my 270win.

[@falba1492]

That’s exactly what I did.

[@robobiss444]

Inside a few hundred yards there’s almost no difference between them. Past that the PRC runs away from the 270 with the higher BC bullets.

[@falba1492]

@@robobiss444 I want to call out a little bullshit on this. The numbers do not run away as you say. The Backfire channel has data on this. I load my 270 with a 145 grain ELD-X, at 3,015 ft/sec. I hit 12” plates at 800 yards with 1,020 ft/lbs of energy. The 6.5 PRC advantage is small, but most rifles will have a more precisely cut chamber. That’s the real advantage.

[@robobiss444]

@@falba1492 Yeah but your .277 145 ELDX despite being an awesome bullet for a .270 win (I am actually loading some now for a 6.8 western so we can keep the MPBR at 300 yards) has much lower B.C.’s than a 147 eld-m in .264 or a 156 Berger in .264. They leave the muzzle at close to the same velocity but the .277 bullet of similar weight but lower B.C’s will lose velocity faster, the PRC will run away from it. The 6.5 will also buck the wind better. The less of a wind adjustment you have to make the less accurate your windcall needs to be. With factory ammo, the PRC drops a foot less at 1k yards, and needs .3 less mils of wind hold with a 10MPH wind, that’s about a foot less of windhold at 1000 yards, that is NOT insignificant. Sure, the differences aren’t as stark at 600 yards, but in factory configuration the PRC is the better cartridge, ballistically. The .270 needs a longer throat, a fast twist barrel, and to be built on a magnum action to be able to load long bullets that fit in the magazine and chamber, some higher BC .270 bullets would be cool too, Hornady hating on the 6.8 western has them not making heavy .277 bullets, unfortunately. They don’t even publish 6.8 western load data for the bullets they make, shame. This is all coming from someone that owns a .270 win mountain rifle that I love to pieces and have knocked a ton of shit over with,

[@kennethgoin628]

@@robobiss444 If that mountain rifle is a Rem 700 LSS, that is one of my all-time faves as well! For the average guy, 1,000yds isn't a common situation. Since the bulk of my shooting is hunting dense woods of 50yds or less, or fields of 200yds or less, you can better understand my lack of enthusiasm for a new configuration that only mirrors a .270win. That said, I still appreciate your comments because it touches on knowledge I don't have/need.

[@sinistersilverado965]

I thought about the 6.5 PRC but I already have a 270 Win, and it doesn't offer anything over that until past 400 yards, so I bought a 7mm PRC

[@daveenriquez7790]

Same here, I looked at 6.5 PRC, but I already have a .270 Win that shoots handloads 145 ELD-X bullets lights out. I want a Fierce Carbon Rival XP 22" Carbon fiber barrel in 7PRC. I do plan on eventually buying a suppressor and already have acquired reloading components for it. Just need to find the rifle in the color I want, or pay MSRP by ordering it directly and waiting a few months.

[@Blergoyen]

What rifle did you end up buying?

[@sinistersilverado965]

@@Blergoyen Howa 1500

[@jameskelly7241]

Jim I really like your videos and research commentary. The 6.5 “clarification “ video was another good one . Just one mistake on the overall cartridge length you presented twice in the video, the 2.955” is case base to bullet tip not the case length itself. This the SAMMI spec . That’s to fit in the magazine and feed without interference. Some manufacturers use extended clearance magazines, such as Sako, to accommodate the seating depth of the longer bullets when hand loading. I can seat 147gr bullets well over 3.00” with room to spare. And yes, the 6-5 is a fantastic cartridge. And uses much more powder than the 6.5 Creedmore to get that 200 fps advantage .

[@alexjones519]

Living in the southeast I prefer a bigger hole and don’t care so much about longer range performance.

[@Ugh_its_dat_guy86]

So I have a 270 that I cut the barrel down to 20" to suppress it. From what you said about 6.5 prc shooting a little over 2700fps with a 20" barrel, I'll stick with my 270. My 270 is shooting the barnes 130gr TTSX factory loads at 3022fps with box posted at 3140fps and 130gr federal fusions at 2923fps with box posted velocity at 3050 and hornady 145gr eldx at 2821fps with box posted at 2960. Seems to me 270 maybe just hair more efficient just lacks the higher bc bullets.

[@shoots1004]

6.5 WSM but with a better advertising dept. The .260 Rem fell into the same hole.

[@ValcoBayrunner]

6.5 HSM 😂

[@Ryan22128]

My thoughts exactly.

[@JOHN-hf9ow]

Seems from my limited experience on this subject the 6.5 prc and the 270 are about the same. Yet I can find ammo for the 270 just about anywhere; and for a more affordable price. so why is the 6.5 prc getting so much love?

[@BZE_Fishin]

Not sure how people didn’t get your meaning. I watched your last video, where you made the comparison, I completely understood your point.

[@chriscalhoun.concretepumping]

So I just purchased my second 6.5 prc. First one is a SAKO S20 hunter which has the stainless fluted and threaded 24” barrel. It is an awesome rifle and I’ve killed everything I’ve shot with it. Only downside to this one is the weight. That S20 feels as if I’m carrying a bazooka around in the field. I do have a big scope on it but aluminum mounts help some. The second gun is the Bergara B14 Crest Carbon. Obviously it all carbon fiber and light weight but only has a 20” carbon wrapped barrel. Used aluminum mounts for it as well and when I finally get it I’ll be putting a banish 30 or backcountry suppressor on it. Probably the smaller in length backcountry. I’m curious about velocity difference in the two with one being suppressed and shorter barrel length. Hopefully not a huge factor when hunting whitetail

[@jmark1298]

You are 100% correct on all counts in my humble opinion. Well done, sir.

[@brianklamer3328]

Any 6.5 mm cartridge with case capacity equal to or greater than 6.5-284 Norma needs a 26 inch barrel minimum to achieve the velocity.

[@adamerson]

Jack O'Connor said "the 264 Win Mag is just a loud 270 Win". Same applies to the 6.5 PRC.(and other big 6.5s) The 6.5x55, 260 Rem, 6.5 Creed accomplish everything you are going to accomplish with a 6.5 bullet. (and they can and have accomplished a lot). If you need more than what one of these cartridges can do; you need a bigger bullet, not a faster bullet.

[@ingvarkristjansson766]

Good video….shows that barrel length matters a lot in all magnum calibers

[@RecreationalSniper]

In my 6.5 PRC, I am running the 153gr A-Tip Match loaded over 65.0 gr Ramshot LRT at 3015 fps (27" barrel) it has plenty of power and the legs to get to 2000 yards if you want it to.

[@Blergoyen]

What brand/model rifle?

[@RecreationalSniper]

@@Blergoyen Savage 110 action, Preferred Barrel 1.2" diameter 27" long, MDT XRS chassis. It's pretty much a custom build. The action was blueprinted and the barrel was hand lapped from the manufacturer.

[@Blergoyen]

@@RecreationalSniper Nice. Any idea what the muzzle velocity is?

[@RecreationalSniper]

@@Blergoyen 3000+ normally about 3030

[@robertrichmond8254]

Wounds are a combination of things. What many ignore is the cavitation wound, or the temporary wound track. Tissue is damaged through that temporary wound track, especially in spongy tissues like lungs. I use a 6.5 Creedmoor, arthritic shoulder, and this round has put venison in the freezer no problem. I have the most versatile tupe of rifle, an AR 10 in 6.5 Creedmoor, if I want to go big like moose; a quick barrel change and I have a .308 with only having to do a quick sight in and I'm good to go. Bottom line is shoot what one can shoot accurately to put the animal down in one clean quick humane shot.

[@coozhunter4434]

Don't back down!! You're absolutely right. I had a Creed, then sold it and bought a PRC. Shot deer with both, sold the PRC and went back to the Creed. Why waste 20 more grains of powder, have way more muzzle blast and recoil, have less room in the mag, less accuracy, and more meat damage. Hard to beat the Creed for the perfect lightweight mountain rifle..... And if you get the long barrel, it makes fun shooting at 1000 easy!!!

[@Manbunmen65]

I sold my Sweds and bought prc so I can be the one that shows up to hunt camp and rub it in the creedmoor manbun boys faces. The guys that never heard of 6.5mm until the creedmoor. Thats literaly why I got my Bergara 6.5 prc and I love it.

[@laneoneal4670]

Less accuracy? 😂

[@jaredWilliams-h7p]

Everyone will have their own opinion on what cartridges are best for specific game. For the most part if you keep each cartridge within reasonable ranges for that specific cartridge it will get the job done. I know my limitations and for the distances I am willing to shoot my 6.5 PRC is fully capable of taking a mature bull with my handload of 127 LRX running 3150 fps. I settled on the 6.5 PRC due to the reduced recoil as I need shoulder surgery and don’t have time to take off work to get it done at this juncture in my life. Everyone will never agree on one specific cartridge as everyone has their favorites and stories as to personal experience. It boils down to if you flinch everytime you pull the trigger and miss the animal it doesn’t matter if your shooting a .375 H&H if you can’t hit the target. All I am saying is the 6.5 PRC is not the best choice but it is the best choice for me as I obtained that rifle thru a trade and didn’t have to fork over several thousand dollars. I fully agree barrel lengths are an important factor I typically look for the barrel length in which the cartridge was originally designed around.

[@calvinmulford6110]

People always forgot to put the 6.55x55 in this sort of comparison

[@EricChmelarsky]

The old 6.5 sweed, will do anything the Creedmoor will do with a 1-8 barrel. Tikka makes a rifle, 24" 1-8 twist. Modern loaded, almost identical.

[@eddieb4227]

And only 120 years later.

[@whosnextracingbuddycollins8555]

264wm also

[@MrJfred78]

I've been going down the cartridge rabbit hole lately and have found myself watching a lot of your videos. Great content sir!

[@FreeWrldMerchant]

Thanks for the clarification: The 6.5 PRC world must of thought they came across the .308 Win. Ron Spomer for the 6.5 PRC. LOL! The greatest advantage of the 6.5 PRC over the .300 Win.; 6.8 Western; 7 PRC is the recoil. This is one of the BIGGEST reasons I built my custom Western Rifle in the 26" 6.5 PRC. I can get the rifle light and my OCD for accuracy is stayed with recoil that I can mentally manage and the terminal performance with the Nosler ABLR both in 142 and 150 grains has the best of all worlds in the bullet conversation: Expansion, Energy dump, and Penetration. My Antelope/Mule Deer Wyoming hunt last fall was fantastic in performance even in a 10-15 mph crosswind that I didn't know was crossing the open valley plain because I was prone between to large prairie hills with nothing but a light breeze. At 481 yards my shot shifted @5-6" and I still made contact and I harvested the animal thanks, in part, to the higher B.C. of this particular bullet. This is a caliber my children can handle as well.

[@donnie6286]

its fun when jim nerds out on this stuff!

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Well done. Even if folk dislike the intense report from a muzzle brake, it is still absolutely a viable and effective option for effective recoil reduction. This option puts heavier recoiling loads back down in the lower recoil range. I am not personally a big proponent for myself but a muzzle brake has offered my youth a better ballistic option for hunting until they get more size to handle heavier recoil.

[@cooeeycobber]

jim, i love the detail you go to in your reviews. i'm a data guy, so i get it. in my experience; 100-400 is the true kill zone for 90% of the hunters out there. if i'm interested in just ringing steel, i get the argument you present at long distances....and the barrel length comparison is another relevant discussion at the moment, but to drop something based upon rotation and the expansion, i'll stick with my trusty .308. keep up the great content.

[@bjerkerandersson3538]

Nice calculations! But, how big a needle do you need to pop a balloon? If the bullet penetrates the vitals and at least does some damage, the job is done. Over here in Sweden one of the most common moose cartridges is the 6,5x55. Then again, Sweden is covered in dense forest so the average range is ~70 yards. And the average flight distance before the moose drops is also ~70 yards. The bigger calibers have one big advantage, you get a better blood trail from a wounded animal if you miss the vitals. For that reason I use the 6,5 when I stalk, and the 9,3x62 for driven game.

[@ValcoBayrunner]

Finding the hunting ammo can still be tough. Hornady ammo is the main supplier. I sometimes see some Nosler ammo. I scored a deal on a Tikka T3X 270 Win , cloud veil, cerekote, NIB for $825. Shelves are FULL of 270 ammo from many companies. We seem to be swallowing all the Hornady marketing Koolaid. 😂 Not bashing 6.5, just not impressed by it. That 6.8 western looked great, but the ammo was never available

[@Manbunmen65]

Have you heard of the internet? Yes there's a website called "gunbroker" go to your google and type in "gunbroker" and then in the search bar type in "6.5 prc in ammunition" and then come back and tell me how much ammo there is.

[@hunterjohnson5635]

.270 💪

[@tedveale2384]

A very interesting turn of events from hand loaders and wildcat PRS shooters. The 7-6.5PRCW or 7-6.5PRCR is a necked up case from 6.5 to 7mm. All the benefits of a 7mm projectile but in a manageable case. I realize it's not SAMI specked or commercially viable but from first hand observations a truely amazing cartridge.

[@williamsweet7511]

You left out the F-class open shooters are necking the 6.5 PRC up to 7mm calling it the PRC-W for Wheeler. They are dominating 600 and 1000 yard competitions with it. Shooting a 180 Berger hybrid out of it at 2950 fps, it's an impressive, and versatile cartridge

[@MacStevens-r2m]

I thought your chart comparing the 6.5, 6.5 PRC, 6.8 Western, .270 & 7 PRC was very interesting and very telling. The 6.8 Western really stands out in the list especially the wind deflation at 400 yards. This doesn’t surprise me in the least. What does surprise me is how little press and recognition the 6.8 Western comparitively receives. And it appears to me with Hornady refusing to make available reloading or selling a 6.8 Western cartridge is an attempt to squash the competition and it drives me crazy with the success Hornady has had in the industry that they feel so intimidated to the point they would like to see it die on the vine. So I’m hoping you and other media outlets will contribute to keeping the 6.8 Western alive and thriving. Just as the .270 WSM never got its due, let’s make sure that doesn’t happen to the 6.8 Western. Just my 2 cents.

[@hvs2773]

Would love for you to do a video on the Ruger .204 for us varmiteers!

[@EasternMountainHunters]

The 6.5 PRC is a decent cartridge but .270 Winchester has been doing essentially the same thing since 1925. Yes the drop of the 6.5 PRC is better for long range stuff but I mean if your hunting past 400 yards most are using a 7mm or a 30cal

[@Manbunmen65]

The 30-06 was doing what the 308 is doing. Just think if no one ever thought to make the 308.

[@EasternMountainHunters]

@@Manbunmen65 not knocking the 6.5 PRC it’s an excellent cartridge. I have a 300 PRC but I have a .270win so no need to buy a 6.5 PRC it doesn’t fill any role I need filled. The .270 has a larger frontal diameter and about the same drop and drift with around the same powder capacity

[@Manbunmen65]

@@EasternMountainHunters The point of the 6.5 prc isn't for people that have a 270 and already don't need a 6.5 prc, or want to get rid of the 270 to get one. Nor is that the purpose of almost all 6.5 prc videos.

[@EasternMountainHunters]

@@Manbunmen65 i understand why most people are doing videos about 6.5 PRC I just don’t believe in all the hype that it’s the best next thing to sliced bread like everyone is selling it as. Is it a good design yes and I like the design. I like the 6.8 western design better to me it’s a larger diameter and beats the 7 PRC in drop and drift in some instances. I look at these things from a utility reason. If I’m buying a whitetail or mule deer cartridge then sure 6.5 PRC but for elk and larger I’ll stick with .270cal or larger

[@laneoneal4670]

@@Manbunmen65it wasn’t made for you it was made for us.

[@justsnuggle]

Surface area discussion, picture and chart is GOLD!

[@brettadams417]

I take a moose every year up here in Alaska with my 6.5 creedmoore and have never been closer than 400yds…has me scratching my head when folks have a hard time with can it take an elk. I scratch even harder when they question the 6.5prc. Truly inside of 800yds there is nothing on the continent that you couldn’t take “ETHICALLY” with either of these 2 cartridges. Best wishes.

[@rodneybumgarner5514]

Wow I see most folks don't understand the the factors that make a difference. I hear all the time this bullet has more energy and does however the fps is below the threshold for the proformance of that particular bullet. Seems like a lot of influencers are purposely manipulating what or how they say things to get everyone fired up and commenting to get more views. Lol worked on me.

[@toddparsons2980]

I believe the 6.5 PRC is more versatile than the 7 PRC, recoil being main contributing factor. But for larger animals (like Elk) the 7 PRC definitely has the advantage.

[@GetMeThere1]

Yup. Barrel length. Apples are NOT oranges.

[@joet1669]

Your right just like .22lr is the same exact thing as a 220 swift or .50 bmg. I can tell your very knowledgeable about something!

[@GeneralObeseus]

Please review the 375 Ruger! almost nobody talks about it!

[@macprince5667]

It sounds like everyone is trying to get .264 Winchester performance.

[@jonathanbennison9220]

12:09 Almost gonna need to start including Rifle Barrel lengths, in these statblock comparisons. Because you just mentioned that the Creedmoor and the PRC, balance out, if the barrels are not similar.

[@jbeaudoin11]

As a new gun owner and hunter i was considering 6.5 cm or prc. I wanted something to start in long range target shooting while being able to hunt with it, mostly deer but if a moose or a bear shows up i want to be sure that it's fine too. Keep in mind i hunt in a blind and sub 50 yards, at least for now. I'm sure the cm would be fine at that range even for moose. But the additional power of the prc give me that more security plus i can shoot flatter and further at the range. Bought a tikka t3x 6.5 prc, slapped an mdt muzzle break on it which made a huge difference. Recoil is still too big but my shoulder doesn't hurt anymore. Looking into a getting an mdt chassis. Now my problem is that the my local range stop at 200 yards.. but one thing at a time

[@jimellison8965]

Good point but if you spend lots of $ on a nice rifle, you may want to shoot it often, the PRC is hard on your barrel and shoulder after some time on the range. A great cartridge but with tradeoffs like everything else. I went 6.5 CM, 308 and 7 PRC.

[@joemartin9175]

Excellent video, Jim! Love your channel. I have a 6.5 PRC and (2) 7 PRC. I can attest that the 6.5 is a by far, a more friendly gun to shoot. The recoil of the 7 doesn't bother me, but It's not a slouch by any means. They both kill everything fast in my opinion. I've had more deer and bear run with my 7 mag than with either of my PRC's. Maybe it's a confidence thing, maybe not. But I'm sticking with them.

[@jamesabreu613]

I happen to really like your videos you give us honest and really good information thank you for doing what you do

[@stancarden7011]

A lot of interesting 6.5's out there. If I were 30 years younger I would probably get the prc but I don't see anything about it that would convince me to get rid of or replace my 270 Win. Lots of hype over nothing.

[@Manbunmen65]

Just think if no one ever thought to make a 30 caliber shorter than a 30-06.

[@falba1492]

@@Manbunmen65Only one of any consequence. 300 WSM.

[@falba1492]

@@HazardousRobYou obviously have no idea what a 270 Win can do? The gentleman is absolutely correct in his assumption.

[@stancarden7011]

@@HazardousRob Not too much, I am only 5 for 5 at over 400 yards. I do really like being able to get back on the deer to watch when the bullet gets there. Never had an opportunity at over 500.

[@falba1492]

@@stancarden7011 Several years ago, I wanted to shoot steel out to 800 yards. I didn’t want to use a magnum, because my son was quite young. We can hit 12” plates all day long, with 1,020 ft/lbs of energy at that distance. I use a 145 grain ELD-X at 3,015 ft per sec. I don’t care what Hornady say, this is not a hunting bullet. I would never hunt at that distance, not even with a real hunting bullet. No flies on the 270 Win.

[@tlotlangmoncho9826]

Thanks to this channel I have better understanding of cartridges

[@FrogRogers]

I just picked one up. Purchased a CZ 600 alpha in the 6. PRC. Really enjoyed the video. thanks

[@aaronlakanen4041]

I have an aught six and am trying to decide between the prc and the creedmoor. So many choices available in today’s market!

[@stevemiller1517]

Frontier cartridge Co. Has light magnums in 30-06, 180 gr. Mv. 2880.

[@flynnryder7798]

I have an aught six and went with creedmoor. 06 for large game, creedmoor for medium. Prc is middle ground. If I had to pick one, it’d be prc, but since I already had the 06/large game rifle, it made more sense to go with a dedicated medium game

[@Manbunmen65]

Go prc it's hot and fun.

[@williamallan4735]

What are you using it for? Are you hunt deer sized animals within 300 yards? Go Creedmore Are you hunting over 300 yards or larger animals? Go PRC Only other consideration is rifle weight. If you are going extremely light like 5-6 pound rifle go smaller, 8-10 pound rifle PRC. Hope this helps

[@garrytalley8009]

I have them both. Depends what you intend to do with the rifle, the weight, the distance you are shooting, if you reload or are planning on purchasing ammo not to mention recoil. Not to mention if you intend on a suppressor or even a muzzle brake. If you are shooting a 30-06 you can handle recoil and I would go with a PRC if you intended on at least the performance of the 30-06. I have both a 6.5 PRC and a 7mm PRC and the 7mm PRC is the better choice of the two for performance. I do reload my own. If cost of ammunition is a factor all bets are off on my suggestions. Factory ammo for the PRC's is very high next to a Creedmoor. If getting a PRC consider a threaded barrel so you can use a brake or a can. Many come with a factory brake like the Ruger or CVA Cascade both are good choices. I do hope you can make a choice you are happy with. All those newer cartridges are designed much better and are more forgiving to reload for.

[@jimellison8965]

The expansion chamber for a cartridge begins at the bolt face and runs through the end of the barrel, a 308 caliber 22" barrel has a much greater expansion chamber than a 6.5 barrel at same length (you calculus experts will have to run the #s for me to be exact). Cartridge design and powder burn characteristics play an important role in making the most of a short barrel rifle.

[@bruce6099]

The sextion addressing surface area is very important to look at. The smaller cals will never be able to match the mechanical wounding of the 30's and up.

[@thedalillama]

Seems like an ideal hybrid hunting-precision round.

[@richiseler5433]

The 6.5 Creedmoor is a great cartridge, but more importantly, it started a craze and opened the door for more 6.5 cartridge options.

[@michaelshuey1614]

The 6.5-284 Norma started the 6.5 craze in the late 90’s when comp shooters started setting 1000 yard records with it and it wildcat variants. The 6.5 CM was just an attempt at following that same path in a short action cartridge.

[@garrytalley8009]

Very nice video. The most important thing is barrel length in performance. Some people love short barrels. I myself want a barrel that gets the most out of the cartridge and think that too many manufacturers sell rifles with barrels that are too short and not giving the performance they should be getting. Lots of unburned powder with large calibers being shot out of short barrels. You even have people wondering why they are not getting the velocity out of their cartridges when Dah you have no barrel length. Nice video. I am sure you lost a lot of people that just can't grasp reality. You did have so much other stuff that matters as well but the real deal is if you want a bullet to perform whatever bullet it is you should have a minimum optimal length barrel. Obviously, you can get even more performance out of a barrel by making it longer, but you can carry only so much. One needs a 26-inch barrel minimum for a magnum cartridge. Everything less than that would do well with a 24-inch barrel even all those they are selling in 22 inch and below barrels. I guess that doesn't work for those running suppressors, but that is a tradeoff getting reduced performance.

[@jimellison8965]

The 308 is great for short barrels, mine is 20" and suppressed.

[@garrytalley8009]

@@jimellison8965 That's nice. It would be a good set up for my farm where I have a field that is only 155 yards and I do have another field that is 250 yards that I do think it would be OK for as well but not my choice for that field. Nothing wrong with wanting suppressed especially for less than long range shots. I hate holdover and like point blank sighting when hunting. Sometimes there is not much of a window for the shot on a big buck.

[@davecollins6113]

I'd tend to say the 6.5x55 blows your bullet dia/elk arguement out of the water, been killing moose in Europe and Canada for many,many years, the PRC just speeds it up a bit, and will probably make the bullet expand better. There are variations of 6.5's in EU that you don't see over here too, faster ones in various EU cases. Whose to say what speeds a given 140-150gr 6.5 bullet is meant to be driven at, for its construction to work the best, CM velocities?, PRC velocities?, Wby velocities? They don't build bullets the same way or for the same purposes, as they did 60-100 yrs ago.

[@bfdadventure]

Hammer Bullets force multiply any cartridge in terminal performance with lighter than standard bullets.

[@GibsonTick]

Just picked up my first 6.5 prc yesterday! Honestly, looking at its ballistics, it's only marginally less powerful than a 270 WSM, which has been my pet caliber for years now, and I'll attest to that round's abilities. It's a killer. I have no doubt the 6.5 prc will do the job just fine.

[@TechieTard]

I thought it was common sense and generally understood/known that the shorter the barrel the less velocity on the bullet once it exited the barrel. It's due to the amount of time pressure is applied to the projectile. You should see what a 6.5 prc can do with a 28" barrel. But who in the hell want's to carry a rifle that long?

[@hunt1198]

What about the 6.5-300 weatherby mag I’ve never heard you talk about it

[@stephanlopez7640]

Would be interesting to see him compare numbers for sure.

[@texpatriot8462]

I have a 6.5PRC and wish I had a 6.8W.

[@tammyfuller8827]

Buy the 6.8 to enjoy both of them.

[@texpatriot8462]

@@tammyfuller8827 I am going to sell the 6.5PRC Tikka and buy an X Bolt. I really don't like the real world velocities I am getting with my Tikka despite a 24" barrel..

[@Wallymakesstuff]

Try reloading with hammer bullets. I have a 21” Prc and getting 3200fps with 125gr hammer hht. It hits pressure at just above that… eldm in the same weight class maxed out at 2800. With 24” barrel, guys are getting 3400 with the hht.

[@kmerkingdomfilms]

I really like your contents and how you're comparing the new 6.5 PRC to the rest of those calibers. That is why I still stick to my 270, 7mm Rem mag and 300 win mag base on fields experience.. To me it's all depends on how I hunt and what kind of weather condition in the area.

[@stuartosborne5069]

I’ve always felt that your reticence towards the 6.5 PRC was from your negative experience with your Wildebeest in Africa. I’m assuming that it was shot with an ELD-X bullet, which in my opinion, flies well but is fragile on impact. I’m loading my 20 inch barrel Christensen Ridgeline 6.5 PRC with 140 grain bonded Speer Impact bullets and getting just over 2900 feet per second. I’m intending to use this on elk and feel with good shot placement, it should be adequate. Thanks for your great channel!

[@mj23isthebest]

Stop comparing the 6.5prc to the 6.5wby rpm they are not basically the same. The 6.5wby rpm has the performance of a 26 Nosler and the 6.5-300wby is in a class all by itself. When you dig into it, the RPM is the most balanced cartridge out of the 6.5 for hunting.

[@jonbaniak9097]

I hate to disagree with you however, the 6.5 wby RPM is much closer in performance to the 264 win mag. It’s not even close to the 26 Nosler or the 6.5x300 wby. I would agree that the RPM has a little more gusto than the PRC. Cheers!🍻

[@davidlaney8254]

The only question now is what new cartridge will Hornady create for those wanting to say they own what they believe everyone else wants?

[@tulo66an]

Awesome review! Best regards from Sweden. I realy likes the 6,5 PRC, my family have hunt Moose, for many decades with 6,5X55 Swede. So i like the 6,5 calibers wery much

[@konoctiswigwam8130]

I agree, not to mention I already have a short action magnum bolt awaiting an action.👍

[@ar494]

My daughter punched through a shoulder, breaking the femur, obliterated the heart, and passed through the other side of a mature cow at 400 yds last year. Rifle is a Weatherby Vanguard First Lite with 143gr ELD-X Precision Hunter ammo and it showed itself as good elk medicine.

[@thomasdaum1927]

The hart is way below the shoulder , how did that happen ?…….

[@bobmatley]

@@thomasdaum1927 That is real magic there or an extreme angle downward shot that is virtually unrepeatable. All my hart shots never came close to doing any shoulder damage just a couple busted ribs.

[@thomasdaum1927]

@@bobmatley Yea me too , my shoulder shots usually double lung them and do not touch the heart . A high shoulder shot can sever th spinal cord and they drop in there tracks .

[@leyderness3553]

I switched to Mxloc42. It's removable, re-usable and it is not temperature sensitive as the other blue stuff.

[@peterluttgens3364]

I’ll just stick with my 6.8 Western ❤🇦🇺

[@lelenbates3367]

Just out of highschool I and a friend got an apartment and we struggled to pay rent and to eat. A pizza joint left a flyer on my car and they had a Friday night special. Two 12" three topping pizza or one 18" three topping pizza for $10.99. My friend was convinced that we should get the two twelve inch pizzas because 12x2=24. I did the math and we split an 18" pizza.

[@adamlinney4371]

love you channel. keep them coming... still want to see the Mtn reaper review and the 1895 drk on your channel

[@adamlinney4371]

i saw !!!! it you keep teasing me with the mtn reaper i want.. i know its decent would love your input why is the new sako better

[@Dr.MountainND]

Thank-you for clarifying...Now you're back in my good books again!! Great videos - I'm looking forward to picking up the CVA Cascade LRH once it comes to Canada in the 6.5PRC. And, I'll be sure to keep all shots under 600 (meters)!! Thanks again Jim

[@xxshiftlockxx]

As a reloader, I would say the one downfall of the 6.5 prc is the action lengths. Unless you go custom, all you get is short or long. This cartridge, and just like the 6.8 western really should be standard in a mid length action. In my opinion and I have a custom short action 6.5prc, is it's just a tad too long for a short action, and not long enough for a long action. The performance of this cartridge could be even that much better if manufactures started chambering in mid length actions and offering more options for that route.

[@sambither9919]

I would love a comparison between 300 win mag and 7 prc

[@garrytalley8009]

I have seen it on charts the 300 Win Mag is great and not much difference in them out to as much as 500 yards. The 7mm PRC and the 300 PRC will outperform them beyond that range. The cases are designed so much better without belts and having an improved shoulder as well as a longer neck and the ability to shoot lower BC bullets. You are trying to compare apples to oranges or worse. I have all those calibers and reload for them plus many others like the 6.5 PRC. I can't begin to list what I do have and reload there are just too many. I might miss a few if I listed them.

[@thebryguy96]

It's rare to see a comparison thats apples to apples. You'd need to compare factory rifles and custom rifles with the same type of bullets and also factory to factory loads and custom loads to custom loads.