Is this how woodworking dies?

[@Woodworkingneo]

Can I tell you how deeply I appreciate the homestarrunner references? Keep them coming. I may be your only viewer who loved it, but keep them coming.

[@Mighty_Atheismo]

Don't you eat this pie!

[@wesandell]

indeed, they are nice whenever i see them. It's like I'm part of some obscure millennial club that no other generation does or will ever understand.

[@ShaySaliba]

Then you draw a more different S.

[@rmwiegand]

Is the Shaper was having light switch raves 🔆🔅🔆🔅🔆

[@suburbanyute340]

It's not only you. There are dozens of us!

[@thomlipiczky9021]

Another 80 year old woodworker (retired building contractor now just playing in my shop) very happy with my new Shaper Origin. Also love my chisels and planes and scrapers. I wonder if there isn't some old codger (not like ME!) who's wondering if KZbin is ruining the way the craft is being taught. I'm a member of a woodworkers guild which awards scholarships to young people who'd like to learn the craft in a school, but maybe we should also offer Patreon certificates. Thans for another common sense video that also teaches a number of valuable techniques.

[@heruvey87]

Theres so many basics lost learning from youtube videos, especially because most of these guys are self tought, most of the old timers who have the skills to teach dont do youtube, they are a dime a dosen.

[@ericm3809]

what guild , what scholarship ? do you have to be of a certain age ? i want to apply ?

[@ENCurtis]

I think this is a brilliant idea and would love to find a way to combine Patreon and scholarships!

[@timrf79]

Just today I used my Shaper Origin to engrave some text on a tray i made. Guess what? Totally screwed up one (of 4), another has more depth and looks different. In short using the Shaper Origin right, does require a lot of skill (which apparently I am lacking).

[@wright1049]

Great timing on this video for me! I’m starting at roughly 50 hinges I need to install to finish my kitchen remodel and have been toying with purchasing an Origin for quite some time. Before I pulled the trigger on a Domino a couple of years ago, I went through the same decision struggles. Now I LOOK for projects I can add a floating tenon to AND install it in minutes. For me, the technology is increasing my shop time rather than reducing it. I’m creating and assembling more complex projects which increases my enjoyment and I find more reasons to go to the shop. I still get a thrill out of a ribbon of shavings from a freshly sharpened plane, but sometimes assembling a joint quickly just makes a project satisfying. Just like any hobby, is this something I need? No, but I suspect it makes the hobby more enjoyable.

[@ENCurtis]

That is what I would deem as growth, my friend. Of course you don't need it. But as the simple things become no longer challenging, you find ways to be more efficient in them so you can focus on growth in other areas--i.e. more complex projects. IMO, the origin sounds like it would pay itself off in 1-2 projects for you, if you consider your time as a hobbyist to be a cost. Yes, I work with Shaper so I admit my bias, but I genuinely love the versatility of this machine.

[@Volkbrecht]

Since you mention that you see an actual use for the Shaper: what would it give you that a simple stationary CNC cannot do? I have never really thought about getting one, but the video made me check, and a simple stationary one comes a lot cheaper than the Shaper.

[@koma-k]

​@@Volkbrecht a bit more flexibility, I guess? You could use the Shaper in the middle of a big sheet, where you'd have to have a pretty decent sized CNC to reach. So it gives you the ability to essentially do CNC anywhere, without a big CNC machine - that also means you're not tied to your workshop since you can take the Shaper with you if you have projects elsewhere.

[@Volkbrecht]

@@koma-k Makes sense. Thank you.

[@RobertB-j4g]

Hobby woodworker here. My work if forced upon family and friends plus a few donations to my own whisky sipping fund. I may never own some of the tools used in your videos, but watching does give me inspiration and imagination to say I can do that and give it a try. It’s also nice that you showed three different ways to achieve your goal. Keep doing your thing, young man.

[@ENCurtis]

I appreciate you, Robert!

[@bmacaulay18]

The Shaper Origin hate is just another flavor of the Festool hate. New tools and inventions should never be looked down on.

[@lindrake8315]

Could not of said it better!

[@ENCurtis]

agreed 100%

[@nicekeven3459]

well it is in fact owned by the same parent company as festool

[@HondoTrailside]

@@nicekeven3459 Everything is.

[@troyqueen9503]

If you’re not swearing at your project, you’ve found the right solution.👍🏝️🇨🇦

[@dominicdiclemente8877]

If you seal the mdf edges with ca it will harden the edges and the jig will last longer

[@ENCurtis]

Excellent tip. I'll try that sometime.

[@markbeiser]

Seal with thin CA, repair/adjust the jig with thick CA and sanding.

[@jorgeo4483]

@Author: I confess that I have never fully understood this machine, it costs like a mid-range router, it looks like a classic router, it has software and hardware that are dangerously prone to becoming obsolete or ruined. It has a slow and strange guide method and is not a table or difficult corner tool. Still, it seems expensive to me.

[@JasonTheRed]

As a hobbyist (and owner of all the hated tools; domino, lamello and origin) who doesn’t have a lot of time I can honestly say that these tools absolutely help me maximize shop time. I can spend time on what I love AND finish projects. Great video Eric!

[@HondoTrailside]

Where it is a problem is if the tools take over. Say on Lincoln St site (?) his chair is ugly as sin, sure doesn't look like a Maloof chair in it's complex, eye pleasing form. Some of which is because he uses a Domino. And the sad part is that for the price of a few dominos, let alone the machine, he could make Maloof joints better than Maloof did. But he has the Domino, and it leads him around by the nose. We have a lot of newbies who just don't know any better. The other thing is that almost nothing the domino does can't be done as well, with just biscuits and dowels, same time expenditure. Some joints can be better. I would love to have one, but since I was already all there, before it showed up, it didn't make sense. It makes sense for people who are billing, and do basic work like built ins. A good example of an excellent channel is Peter Millard's. Why should amateurs like it if their business model was clearly to price them out?

[@BeaulieuTodd]

Thank you. Exactly. It comes down to what makes you happy. I started with the thought that everything had to be hand done. Fast forward. I own a,most every festool tool, a nice CNC and two lasers. It’s all about making shit now. How? Doesn’t matter.

[@Vikingwerk]

I’ve been aware of this thing for ages, and put it in the same category as CNC router tables, 3D printing, and laser cutter/engravers and that sort of thing; they largely bring woodworking and crafting to the computer world. What I mean is, they enable non ‘tool’ people who are tech savvy to try out building things, while coming from an area of skill they are comfortable in. And a lot of them get into it and then get comfortable with more ‘classic’ tools, and discover woodworking or even metal working from that end. Of course, I see a lot of ‘big’ KZbinrs who started out on ‘normal’ tools now using CNC routers and lasers and water jet cutters to speed up their processes, and it’s easy to forget that they are doing these things as a *business* and these large scale machines make sense in their situation. A lot of people comment things like ‘I could build that to, if I had half a million dollars worth of tools like they do’ and complain that CNC is ruining woodwork, not thinking about the business side of what they are watching. In the end, it all depends on what you want and need to do. If you need and want to make 5000 units a week out of Baltic Birch, you better get to big CNC, but if you just want to make a few neat boxes for some friends, and are not trying to become Rex Kruger, and enjoy computer design, this Shaper Origin thing is probably a fine choice. And if you just want to go out and make shavings and sawdust and be away from the computer, the tools are still like they have always been.

[@lmcori]

Tools are aids to execute a maker’s vision - this beautiful cabinet is case in point. Chris Schwarz wrote an applicable passage about machines in The Anarchist’s Tool Chest - “Machinery, when properly used, is like having some noisy apprentices. You have to always be the one in control. You have to know how to direct them. And you never ever let them take charge of the shop.” I think about this every time I set foot in the shop.

[@ENCurtis]

That is a brilliant Chris quote. He is exactly on point.

[@HondoTrailside]

It is worth remembering, that in America, there is virtually nobody doing high end furniture. Just look at the recent fad for allegedly making 25K tables, out of slabs and epoxy. What a joke. Good commercialization, I wish I had those smarts. But the time when a King could command the workmen of a whole nation are long gone. My cousin got an OBE from the Queen. There was a room they had to wait in (we got the video). It was basically empty, just a waiting room with chairs, like a green room. There was one piece of furniture, a large chest. It was entirely gold and other ornamentation. I guess they just needed a place to shove it. Overflow. I have never seen anything like it. You can Domino, or Shaper, or whatever you like, everything we make is some minor degree above the level of the big box stores in comparison. I don't say this to discourage anyone, my stuff is not different, but when thinking of what the possibilities are, it is all kludgy stuff that is second or 5th rate. Our super power is clients in the world today, don't know the difference.

[@gregnunn8228]

Work flow for several hinges, use the Shaper to create the jig (super accurate) then utilize a pattern bit on a trim router (no math for collets) to cut the mortices. The trim router is lighter and faster to run.This has been very effective. I haven't had to do several multi level hinge mortices (Soss hinge) I guess it would depend on how many weather I did two jigs (one for each depth) or just run it on the shaper. I was reluctant to try the Shaper being an older dog learning new digital tricks, but I am amazed at how simple it is and how many uses I have found for it. Love the videos keep up the great inspiring work.

[@ENCurtis]

I'm glad you have found a system that works for you! And if I had a run of dozens of hinges I would likely do the same. You're spot on about the combination of accuracy (Shaper) and speed (trim router).

[@flatlander523]

Just another great video thank you very much. I own an Origin and I am so glad I bought it. I am a hobby woodworker and have been so for 15 years. I'm approaching 80 years old and I must find ways to enjoy my hobby that is not as strenuous or require as much effort. The mortise and tenons can be made with the Origin and it relieves me of physically cutting those mortises. It also broadens my capabilities. Plus it's just fun as hell to use. 😁

[@williamshaffer2562]

Great video Erik. I have been a woodworker over 50 years. New innovations are coming out every year, so use them or not, entirely up to you. However I do so like the solace of using a hand plane or a sharp chisel on projects. Semper Fi bud.

[@ENCurtis]

You know I love me a quiet hand plane morning or a hand tool hinge install as much as the next person. Those moments of quietude refill the cup. Appreciate you Bill.

[@paininthegrass]

I love that Trogdor just had a cameo. Brings back memories. I still randomly yell that at my cousin's at family get togethers.

[@zionosphere]

I love the approach that there are more than one way to solve the same problem, just a difference in scale and efficiency. If only making one or two, then hand tools are probably faster due to the initial cost of setup. Anything beyond that, then machines are definitely a time and energy leverage. I appreciate the humble approach to woodworking. I also appreciate how easy this could have been turned into a Shaper sponsored video, but you chose not to go that route as it would diminish your message.

[@ENCurtis]

Appreciate you, my friend. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@bestbuilder1st]

To me, this was just a soft sell infomercial for that machine.

[@poolcrusher90]

So it sounds like the shaper origin is a digital version of what a craftsman's jig collection would look like. I think the price point may not be obtainable for the beginner, but the same can be said for festool products. These items would be for those who have built up their business and want to upgrade their tool collection or expand their capabilities. A CNC router fits in this category as well.

[@steveasula]

Truly excellent presentation. One point to add that I am sure you will agree on. Learning how to use hand tools accurately helps a person use machine tools with accuracy. It lays the "groundwork" so to speak.

[@ENCurtis]

You are correct, I 100% agree on that. And well said, to boot.

[@bigjoe8922]

In woodworking you will always have hand tool traditionalists which I admire for their skill . Then there are people like me who like tools that make life and wood working easier , bottom line you need to produce to make money machines and technology make production faster with less waste. I love hand tools as a relaxing meditative process but for me to make money I need to produce products

[@tehbieber]

As a hobbyist the Shaper is nice to have, but it also has its own setup overhead that keeps me from reaching from it as much as I might. There's kind of a sweet spot for it where if I'm doing one or two of something it's probably faster and easier to just cut by hand, if I'm doing *a lot* of something I'm better off making a jig so I don't have to realign and reset the cuts every time (and I can use a 1/2" bit if I need), but if I'm doing just a handful of something moderately complicated it works really well.

[@SkaForFood]

I've had one for a while and don't use it often, mostly because I forget its there. But when I do I never regret it and it helps me get the project done! Usually much faster than whatever ridiculous method I made up.

[@itsROMPERS...]

There was probably a time when craftsmen were suspicious of the new fangled metal being called "steel". "Too hard to work with..." was probably a grumble.

[@royster3345]

Monty Python, never fails to make me smile 👍 Just looked up the cost of the Origin 😮 chisels it is.....

[@chrisgenovese8188]

it may not be as disruptive as the Shaper, but a 3D printer and some free CAD software shouldn't be slept on or ignored. i can now 3D print quick and effective router templates in almost no time. it has taken my woodworking to the next level. i think it is a similar encroachment of technology into woodworking, and useful in a million other crafts. should you get one? yes, absolutely yes.

[@michaelionita]

“Adapt or die”. As always. Great video.

[@kirklandcarswell6640]

Great video. Every Saturday morning i get up early, make coffee, and look for a new video from you. Thanks and Merry Christmas!

[@ENCurtis]

Thanks so much! And Merry Christmas to you as well!

[@rolandgdean]

I've been facing this with my CNC for years now. I can do EVERYTHING it does but it does a lot of them WAY faster and WASTES WWAY LESS than hand methods. They are also useful in making jigs for hand tooling or power tooling.

[@JustinShaedo]

This video wasn't that relevant to me (I think my CNC fills the role) but the presentation, history, etc are certainly good enough that I'm keen to watch more of your stuff. Keep up the good work! Also, love a sharp chisel. Nice work there too.

[@michaelsummer7082]

Shaper origin owner opinion here. I had a shaper origin for just over a year. I bought it right before auto pass came out and I still maintain, It’s the coolest tool I’ve ever owned. I build furniture for a living, and it was really interesting. The problem I had is I also run a laser and I found it was easier for me to draw a template and cut it out of quarter inch MDF or hardboard and then transfer that over to half inch MDF then it was to pull out the shaper. The other problem I had was the router being only a quarter inch. I played with some cool mortises and really cool joinery, but it was just too cumbersome to trick the machine and took cutting through 8/4. The thing that eventually killed it for me was the release of autopass. I’d begrudgingly paid $200 for functionality that arguably should be included with the machine. On top of that, when I asked shaper about creating a tab functionality, I was basically told that would never be a thing because it didn’t seem very practical. Eventually, I parted with it and occasionally I miss it, but for the most part creating templates and using a router have been faster for me. Not to say it’s a bad tool, it’s not it’s super damn cool. It just didn’t fit the workflow of my company.

[@ENCurtis]

I appreciate that complete and honest perspective, Michael. It certainly doesn't fit everyone's workflow. And if you have a laser cutter I could see some redundancies. Glad you found a workflow that fits your company, though.

[@TNH91]

Having digital tools that help do some things doesn't destroy a type of work. It's just a tool. Some people don't like to use that tool, other people don't like to _not_ use that tool. Both are okay. Some people do hand tool woodworking only, others basically do power tool woodworking only. And others use whichever tool fits the job they want to do at that moment best, which some times is a hand tool and other times is a power tool. Precision is often easier with hand tools. Getting things done fast is often easier with power tools. With jigs you can also get good precision with power tools, but only for some things. So it's about what does the job best. And of course it's often that the best tool for the job is the tool you know how to use.

[@deek3048]

I love that you still use a utility knife! I called it my pocket plane or pocket chisel depending on use. If you just use the blade you can use it as a scraper and get real fine shavings and a smooth surface for your final pass. You do you Eric!

[@steveasula]

I worked on cargo ships for many years.....an old timer told me that when paint rollers were introduced they were considered a terrible development and that nothing compared to a paint brush for a "proper job".

[@oliviebel4868]

During history , that is several thousands of years there are huge number of revolutionary technical innovations , steel , tool steel tools making , glues electrical motors CAD………They have dramatically changed manufacturing, made professionals jobless…… You just have to accept Shaper and await to see what it will give us. Having said all that I fully associate with your feelings to woodworking.

[@charliemurphypipe]

for me, involving any computer crap is the opposite of why I Iove working with wood. I really believe that computers have NOT imoproved our lives, even though I ,love digital multi track recording, I love tube amps more. Smart phones? not really smart to constantly stare at a glowing screen.

[@kylejohnson4662]

I really enjoyed this video. As far as turning out a product for business, all of these innovations are the best thing. For me, I really enjoy the slow process of using only my own calories for all of the process. But there are definitely times that I use power tools because of time restraints.

[@ENCurtis]

I appreciate that balanced approach and response

[@averagejoesworkshop]

I've had my Origin for about 5 years, and have used it many times for various things, all because I wanted to, and because I had the machine. Its precision is incredible, and the hardware catalog has every piece of hardware I could imagine, despite using only a small fraction of them. I'm not a great woodworker, but I find enjoyment in technology and had the funds available to purchase the machine. It's worth it to those who can both afford and, far more importantly, justify such a purchase.

[@ENCurtis]

Agreed completely. Glad you are still finding value in it 5 years on!

[@nate2838]

I eenjoyed this video. For some reason, I never thought double sized tape was a viable option. I guess I just thought of the thick version.

[@EhrenHines]

Blue tape on a jig! You know it. Not all jigs, but yes. My tape is about 7 thousands of an inch thick. Merry Christmas and thanks for the entertainment, you rock

[@pacificdune]

One thing I do with the shaper is cut my own custom hardware. It cuts brass very well!

[@ENCurtis]

Absolutely. It's brilliant for small brass milling operations.

[@mikewilander3729]

Making sponsors happy while offering food for thought that I regularly chew on. I enjoy your success bro.

[@ENCurtis]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate that my man.

[@dustinclark8946]

I was done after the hand tools. Just awesome work.

[@MorbidEel]

This machine is a digital jig so it isn't ruining woodworking any more than any jig. There is different skill set required to make versus the physical one so it might not be right for some people. If there is a version of the hinge with round corners you might be able to skip the corner chopping step for even faster work.

[@marchuvfulz]

I gotta say, I see machines like the Origin and the Domino as potential lifesavers for professionals (or part-timers looking to become professionals) who want to do stuff like mortises quickly and accurately so they can focus on design, production, and marketing. Hand tool methods are great if you have the time and clientele that’s willing to wait and pay a “hand-tool premium” but for many who want to make a living at woodworking, they need the speed, efficiency, and consistency offered by the power tools. For the weekend hobbyist, well, it depends on their income and how much pleasure they get from using the old, slow methods. Even weekend warriors appreciate speed and consistency.

[@dougdavidson175]

Thanks Erik. Hope your Christmas is merry & the New Year is safe & prosperous.

[@ENCurtis]

Thanks, Doug. And likewise!

[@mheermance]

The Shaper Origin looks like an amazing machine. I won't buy one because I am a hobbiest, but for a professional the time savings would really compound quickly.

[@tabitha2706]

Wonderful video. I like to believe that no tool is inherently ruining anything. Every tool has it’s place and use, and it’s up to the craftsperson how they choose to employ them and to what extent. Years ago, I started my journey with a jig saw, corded drill and a handsaw, along with a wooden sanding block and a couple files and made wonderful objects. It’s what I could afford and had room for and I made it work. Now at almost 60, I have a wonderfully outfitted shop to enjoy with both machines and hand tools and love using both at different times as my mood dictates. While I will prob never use something like a shaper origin; it has it’s place and use

[@gerrylamontagne2214]

Darn it- was really hoping you’d figure a way to work in a “Your mother smells of elderberries” reference. Love these sorts of videos from you.

[@ENCurtis]

Now I have a goal for next video 😂 Thanks Gerry!

[@gregblake2764]

I've been at this long enough to remember getting a plunge router and being amazed at all the stuff it could do that a fixed based router can't do. It all comes down to can I make enough money with it to justify the cost in time and money to add a particular piece of equipment to my kit.

[@KOutOfMyYard]

I’ll stay out of the debate and just say thank You again for another great video

[@deanrantala]

Since buying my laser cutter / engraver, I found it a super handy tool for custom laser cut templates that are dead accurate and crazy fast to make. And laser cutters are getting pretty cheap now days.

[@Anthony-H]

To be fair, there are some real goobers on KZbin who couldn't make a simple shelf without $50,000 in sponsored power tools. It seems they're losing popularity finally, but they're still out there. Kudos to the creators who have the skill to show multiple ways to do something. Not only does it show the viewer they actually know what they're talking about, but are relatable. Not everyone can afford (or justify) a Festool Domino or CNC.

[@theoldfart6404]

All hail St Tabitha! Well done madam, well done. Let the revolution begin.

[@ENCurtis]

We ❤️ Tabitha.

[@PBattensby]

Shakers kept their distance from lawyers, so some guy in a suit heard of the circular saw and patented it.

[@AngieWilliamsDesigns]

I love everything about this video. I enjoy watching your videos. It’s just great content. I so badly want an Origin. Do I need it in my shop…. NOPE! Will it be super useful in my shop…. YES! Will it improve some of my processes… yes! Will it help me save time… YES! Will it help me be more creative… YES!!!! I also love hearing that little tidbit about a woman inventing the circular saw. LOL. I have a guy in my community that is a woodworker. He never looked down on me as a woman doing woodworking. However… when I bought a Domino… He looked down on me and now doesn’t consider me a “real” woodworker because I don’t cut traditional mortise and tenon. I laugh at him for multiple reasons. However… what I also think is funny is that there are people in my community who think I’m an amazing woodworker because I don’t use pocket holes. They have no idea what joinery I use. Because they can’t see it. Unless of course, I use dominos in a dado. But they still don’t realize I am using a domino. I just say “loose tenon joinery” if someone asks because they have no idea what a domino is.

[@robertaldridge6604]

I have an "all the above" approach. If you can get an Origin, get it. But know how to do the other methods, because tools can break. And depending on the piece, maybe one method is superior than the other.

[@gregghernandez2714]

Hey, you are running a business. I come from the world of Art and a painting professor once told me "It doesn't matter how you get there, but that you do." He meant it was okay to use projectors, blow dryers, or whatever it took to complete a painting. Same applies here, buy and invest in whatever tools you need. No client of yours is ever going to say: "I'm sorry but those hinges were installed with the aid of a digital tool. I cannot abide by that, so I want a refund." Just keep doing what you're doing. With your skill level, you don't have to explain anything to anyone.

[@THANATOSIXU]

I will never gate keep people doing woodworking with better tools than I have, or worse tools than I have. Most people will not even know that the shaper origin is a thing. I assume only a super small amount of people will even but it. I mean most of my tools are either generic tools, or specialized tools (domino 500). Why do I care what tools ppl use to do something? I dont. You do you. I love innovation and new tools. Its why I have spent way too much money on tools and making things lol.

[@andrewbrown8148]

Great video, Erik~! I picked up my Shaper Origin during the Spring sale this year and I LOVE IT~!! I've been woodworking a looooong time and I really like your perspective & the explanation you gave. I see this tool is a total indulgence, because yes, there are numerous other ways to do what it does. I thought the same thing when I upgraded from my Craftsman contractor table saw to a SawStop, or when I bought my jointer, Domino, track/plunge saw, or any other "thing" in my workshop. Other than a basic tool, they weren't "needs", they were "wants"...at least that's how I box it up in my mind. For tools that interest me, I read about them, research them, try to get a demo of them (hands-on if possible), and then make the decision as to whether I want it enough to obtain it (and splurging if it's more $$$$ than its traditional alternative). Always looking forward to your next contribution~!

[@markbeiser]

A Trogdor reference! You've earned a sub Sir.

[@limbopferd]

I used my 3d printers to create templates before, and I'd do it again. That doesn't make me a bad woodworker, just one that uses all the tools available. I'm a bad woodworker because I suck at woodworking, that's the bitter truth. But it's fun, so I don't give too much about what others say.

[@davelambert8898]

I use a 20w diode laser to make router templates from 4mm plywood laminated to a suitable thickness for the router guide bushing.

[@richs5422]

Eventually, I'll need to downsize the shop. I'm considering the Origin because it takes much much less room than my CNC currently does. That's a big factor. So, yes, it's on the someday list.

[@davidmelrose3990]

My grandfather was uset when the paint roller was brought into use. It took the skill out of painting😮

[@embalmed]

Sweet looking coffee maker bro

[@JimBloggins1]

Yeah we thought so too and then tried this unit in our shop. We returned it about 3 weeks later. Make a stronger router, allow third party router mounting/use and add versatility to the design software. Currently a weak waste of time and money.

[@MattBowlerHat]

Great video. The origin isn't for me (at least not yet) but a Domino was some time ago. First I had a circular saw, then a table saw, then a track saw. Each one bought when a use case made it, well, useful. Tools are useful things, used to perform a task. 'I don't do it that way' should never mean 'that way is wrong' and very often should be understood as 'I don't do it that way right now'. Traditionalists should always remember that they are picking their epoch to hark back too. Very rarely would anyone want to give up electricity to light their workshop, or gas to heat it, but when chisels were invented, those things did not exist either!

[@xlerb2286]

Tools become more capable. And that can be hard when you've mastered a skill and you're rightfully proud of that. Suddenly along comes this whiz-bang machine and now everyone is as good as you are. That can hurt. I like using simple hand tools and if I'm not trying to make hours count that may be the best for me. But I also have a weakness for whiz-bang tools so if I ever get back to woodworking it would be on my list. But here are the real questions I think you should ask before buying one: 1. Is there a monthly subscription needed? 2. Does it rely on a remote server that if that server goes away the tool is useless? I know my chisels and router don't have either ;)

[@greggcoulter6008]

Haters are gonna hate! I don’t know why there’s so much hate on power tools and especially expensive ones.? It’s just ignorance. Anyway, great looking cabinet btw. Happy holidays ENCurtis!

[@itsROMPERS...]

It's crazy how woodworking has changed since I was young. First of all, you rarely see hammers in shops anymore, or even on construction sites, everyone uses a nail gun. Also, people use ca glue for everything now, often replacing clamps. Plus, I don't remember routers being as big a thing as they are now. And these days more people are using CNCs, which are relatively new in the scene and for a long time were only found in industrial settings. (I remember when a guy named Taylor shocked the guitar-making industry by mass producing fine guitars with CNC, which is a perfect application.) Now there's the Shaper Origin, which is really kind of a poor man's CNC.

[@AfroMocha]

As a craftsman myself being self taught with a passion for my work no new fancy AI tool will ever replace the feel of doing it yourself and learning why you need to do it this way over that way. Tools like this help when ur a solo manufacturer and need repetitive work in droves. At the end of the day a tool is a means to an end it doesn't make the craftsman. Don't get me wrong I get what ur getting at however the amount of people able to afford that tool is low enough that the craft cannot die

[@yobuddi]

Well done sir! Appreciate the quality content, sense of humor, and killer skills.

[@ENCurtis]

Thank you!

[@DavidAlekhuogie]

I almost exclusively do all my joinery with the origin now. It fully replaced my domino and my drill press. Most of all it has made me safer and more creative with joinery. It puts me in more of a designers mindset than a craftsman. I think that’s a good thing. I no longer have to rely on the table saw for so much also. I think it just saves so much time when you can essentially drop any template on a work piece and adjust it on the fly it becomes so much more practical than a regular cnc for actual furniture building. I think for people on a budget to really get value out of it you really really have to rethink how you make stuff. Realistically It’s gonna cost over 4k to really get the best out of it. It’s worth it but if you just tip toe into it, you’re just gonna just waste a tone of money.

[@FenixCustomWoodworks]

It is simply a choice, which is great in itself. That is what makes woodworking so awesome!

[@brettguthrie4705]

Love the Monty Python and the Holy Grail Clips. Cheers from West Aus.

[@shrx]

I have used my Shaper to make jigs. I have also created jigs on my 3D printer. Both tools.

[@ga5743]

Great video and sweet project Erik. I sure enjoy watching makers using the Shaper Origin, fantastic invention Enjoy your day and Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays.

[@scottfranco1962]

Double stick tape is very handy. You will find the board you use it on stuck to your face after the power tool throws it at you.

[@jimhanrahan6406]

Great video! Merry Christmas to you and yours!

[@ENCurtis]

Merry Christmas to you as well!

[@ChrisCoul]

The shaper origin is super cool. As a hobbyist, I'm probably not gonna get one. If I had a business that could use it to save me time, I would get one.

[@mjp5546]

We used to cook with fire and now we cook with a stove (mostly). Design, timber selection and finish are still some pretty definitive processes we need to apply ourselves. Bring on the tools I say....

[@akzorz9197]

If the price isn't listed and I have to go to a Dealer to see how much it is.. I can't afford it and nor am I skilled / busy enough to warrant it. However, it does look pretty slick.

[@joeatkins4470]

Helpful, interesting and educational - it must be an E Curtis video. Thanks man!

[@ENCurtis]

Thank you brother!

[@Possimpablee]

8:50 just use a bit with a bearing and you can use a jig the same size as the hardware.

[@hansdruf9132]

nice video. I think, people using the shaper in a KZbin video just isn't very pedagogical and entertaining, but it's a hell of a tool!

[@joshuaroe11]

Hoping you get to 100k before the new year

[@tomarmstrong1000]

Walter Rose wrote, i never met a sawyer that lamented the passing of the pit (or something similar). You can say various things about hand vs machine vs whatever comes next we havent imagined. We need this level of realist videos that shows it can be done various ways, choice is up to you.

[@kiwdwks]

Origin is an awesome tool! Hard to argue being more efficient/accurate is a bad thing...

[@1pcfred]

$3,400 to buy it is a hard pass for me.

[@terrytopliss9506]

Thanks for the video Erik,really interesting. Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas and a Happy NewYear.👍👍

[@ENCurtis]

Thank you and likewise my friend!

[@Simon-xi8tb]

Looks like a portable coffee machine. I bet they could add one little feature to make cofee ?

[@Whitepaint]

Well, I suppose you could say, what if I wanted to blacksmith something? Steel pouring enmasse has existed for quite a while, but people still smith and people pay a premium for the had made stuff. As woodworkers, nothing is stopping up from learning the craft. I should think that an auto-tool is probably more for a professional that does things like housing vs us who use whatever, to make something.

[@VictorHopper-f6c]

looked at this machine a couple years ago and realized it costs more than all the machines combined that i have bought over the last 45 years. no i don't do woodworking for a living so i'll just be jealous while i sharpen my chisels. like all these tools it does cheapen the value of what guys did 200 years ago. but is drywall comparable to wood lath and plaster?

[@TCoffman]

Excellent explanation of the value of other tools. (From the guy who could never justify having or purchasing one). Love your teachings.

[@ENCurtis]

Thank you sir! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@5ElementsWoodworking]

I think one of the things people miss (and you alluded to at the beginning of this video) is that this *ISN'T* a single purpose tool, like a domino. Yea, it's expensive. Yea, it requires some brain skills to plan on using. But how much is a flat bed CNC? Not to mention the room it takes up. Or a panto router which literally just does mortise and tenons. Or a mortising machine, which JUST does mortises. I would go so far as to say this tool is MORE versatile than probably any other power tool.

[@ENCurtis]

I would agree with that statement 100%. It's versatility justifies the price point for me.

[@mathquir190]

In fact, router can be highly dangerous if the bit break. I just always prefer hand tools now that I began using it for last year. For sure if you work with large number of similar tasks... It become necessary.

[@mathquir190]

I think I'll make a little square like you have in hard wood. It can become handy, And a bigger and a bigger and one with a slot for the circularsaw.... Okay just that little one...

[@barryomahony4983]

I love Brusso hardware. Especially the knife hinges. They pretty much force you to have very small clearance on inset doors (1/32" IIRC), so you really have to step up your game. But it's really satisfying to see the result.

[@ENCurtis]

It absolutely demands your full attention, but they are really lovely bits of hardware. Even just last night I showed the piece to the client and they remarked about the hinges specifically.

[@TheMrAshley2010]

Also, you can tell how good a woodworker/youtuber is by how many Monty Python video clips are included in their content. No Monty Python? = watch a different video. Includes Monty Python? = Def watch the video!

[@acijami]

Bruh. I will enjoy my Christmas dinner ever so much now that I know about circular saws... they don't think women should be in a shop unless they bring DUH SUSTENANCE. And then we should gtfo. I take great joy every time I set foot in my shop because I know I'm being a pita. That historical fact is going to be so much fun!!!1 Thank you 🥰🥰🥰🥰😇 Also, tools like this keep those of us with movement disorders working and making.

[@Miner-dyne]

There is more to life than min/maxing every action. Sometimes you do it the slow way because you want to. Sometimes it is not even slower, it just requires higher skills.

[@MrGartzilla]

I really enjoyed this video. Great job.

[@ENCurtis]

Thank you!

[@Signorew]

Thanks for bringing some history site facts in. It’s one of those tasty spice in your videos.🙏🏽🙏🏻 Love the timing. Since a while I start reading history story’s of women in technic and craftsmanship. A very interesting part of human being.

[@mathquir190]

I could use that jig just for the marking and make it faster with hand tools.

[@royunderwood7514]

Great video. Even more so thank you for the introduction to Tabitha Babbitt.

[@jb510]

Always enjoy your history lessons.

[@AnonymousUser1776]

Since I’m never going to have one, I’ll just continue to do what I can with what I have.

[@ENCurtis]

Love that.

[@AnonymousUser1776]

@@ENCurtisalso…. Second Homestarrunner clip in a row 😂