Justice League: Into the Snyder-Verse

[@kaitlynreed9291]

Holy shit, that Justice League trilogy info sounded so cool.

[@Xenabuffyfan]

It sounds cool...but something tells me it would have been really tough to actually pull off...I mean MOS and BVS weren't well received as grounded superhero movies....going cosmic seems like an overreach that they weren't ready for. Maybe soon though

[@ZaZa-kp9gt]

Has BVS been better received maybe they wouldn’t have pulled the plug on it mid picture and we might have gotten a watchable movie. Would’ve been nice. I tried to watch it again recently and while I sorta like the BVS directors cut justice league is almost unwatchable.

[@darrensteele9897]

I think if they'd have released the ultimate cut of BvS to theatres instead of the theatrical cut we would of had a much better chance of Snyder continuing his vision.

[@NadavZiv]

@@Xenabuffyfan That universe actually started cosmic, with that awesome Krypton beginning in MOS and the space exploration scene with Zod when he tells the story of his group wondering the galaxy, searching for outposts.

[@christophersmith7942]

Sounds like the justice league trilogy we all deserved I really liked mos bvs Wonder Woman and aquaman but justice league and suicide squad were all too much too soon 🦇

[@HiroReadHeart555]

for mobile version 03:38 - Black Panther 05:52 - Oscar Talk 08:00 - Treadstone 10:30 - Battlestar Galactica 11:20 - The Flash 15:20 - Deadly Class 18:15 - Kevin Meets the Russo Brothers 25:50 - Avengers End Game 27:30 - Spider-Man Far From Home 30:45 - Zach Snyder’s Justice League 44:00 - Into the Spider-Verse 47:00 - Glass 1:00:00 - Into the Spider-Verse 1:04:30 - Stan Lee, Steve Ditko, Jack Kirby 1:07:20 - New Ghostbusters 2:14:25 - Mission Impossible 1:23:48 - Q&A

[@JTG_75]

Man I am pissed, the JL Trilogy sounds like it would have been epic! Also I really want to see The Snyder Cut more than ever!

[@BrosephComrade]

Snip 'n' slurp & #ReleaseTheSnyderCut

[@abhigcovers20]

@Dan S lmao this didnt age well

[@abhigcovers20]

@Kevin Lopez the snyder cut is never coming out lol

[@superherofandome7611]

Epic doesn’t mean good

[@gaminggenius88]

Honestly guys.... If we aren't here Marc and Kev are f***ing! :)

[@ArtofLunatik]

the biggest Bromance in podcasting history.

[@BrosephComrade]

Give it up for Marc “Mystaphysical” Bernard

[@leelewis8749]

How do you know they aren't fucking anyway, you can't see what's happening under the desk.

[@jakefink680]

Lee Lewis now you got me thinking they are getting blow jobs under the desk the whole video giving the money shot as the the Snyder cut is being described

[@desertpunk252]

Ahhhhh, all the edited parts while Kevin was talking about Justice League. What did we miss!?

[@jasonh.2439]

Hopefully, somebody in the crowd can fill us in.

[@JetsetComedian]

Bump

[@Slappysan]

....

[@BrosephComrade]

What did he mean by dhat??

[@arbaazhasan4627]

Who's watching this again now that Snyder Cut is officially announced :D

[@iamjacksboilingpt]

#ReleaseTheSnyderCut Zack's Army of the Dead is gonna be awesome!!

[@ANIpJs]

There is no goddamn Snyder cut, it's a false equivalency to compare Donner's Superman 2 with Snyder's Justice League. Donner's Superman 2 didn't require hundreds of millions of dollars in CGI animation to be watchable. Justice League would require so much more money to be pumped into a movie that is already known as one with the highest budgets ever that also flopped. WB is not going to waste the time and money on that. Plus the closest thing to a Snyder cut that actually existed was an extremely rough work cut of the raw footage, that had no CG and was missing key moments. Do you think any of the actors are willing to come back and film those scenes? Or that again WB would hire an animation team to coming in and basically remake a movie that already failed? Also Snyder's original Justice League was meant to be a part one of two, and since DC is never going to make Snyder's Justice League 2, because his vision was vastly at odds with what DC is trying to do. What's the point in being an envelope fanboy and bitching about something that will never happen. And contrary to Common wisdom do you know that hashtags don't actually do anything. So effectively all you're doing is throwing a temper tantrum like a little child.

[@iamjacksboilingpt]

@@ANIpJs you need to chill out bud. Youre spending waaaaay too much angry energy on youtube comments. You can continue to believe what you want to. That's alright. I do believe the snydercut exists. I do think a somewhat completed cut exists. Maybe not with absolutely perfect vfx but close enough. Jay oliva, ray fisher and jason mamoa have all said enough and zack snyder has hinted the same constantly. I dont think any key scenes are missing. Zack did say he shot everything he storyboarded. So there's that. I dont know if the hashtag will lead to the cut being released. I certainly hope so. But even if it doesnt i'll tell you what it does do. It brings alot of fans together. It furthers a discussion about artistic independence and studio intervention. It definitely helps collect more evidence of all the scenes that were lost and all that could have been. But most importantly it helps raise over 60k for suicide awareness and prevention. So maybe it might seem like a temper tantrum, but to me and quite a few others, it's alot more.

[@BuckDat]

​@@iamjacksboilingpt "Jay oliva, ray fisher and jason mamoa have all said enough and zack snyder has hinted the same constantly." But they're referring to an assembly cut. That's a "Snyder Cut" in name only. We didn't need those people to confirm the existence of that. They finished the movie without him. It's not a real movie unless he finishes it.

[@iamjacksboilingpt]

@@BuckDat i honestly think they might be referring to a somewhat completed version since we know there have been scenes with full cgi that were removed from the movie. We know that zack was working with the vfx crew after the shooting was completed and also he was there for the post production ADR. That being said, not only were scenes cut but so many were re-shot by joss which means that the original must still exist. And JunkieXL was fired very late in the game. I dont know if the snydercut is so perfectly preserved and requires no additional tweaking. In all probability it does require some hopefully inexpensive improvements but whatever it must be would definitely be better than what we got. And for that alone i think the demand for the release of the snydercut is justified.

[@BrosephComrade]

I was an Avenger!!

[@ItsRichyMo]

Why did it jump straight after he said BOTH VERSIONS of JL? 34:35 SUSPECT!!!! #RELEASETHESNYDER-CUT

[@kevb3047]

We definitely missed something- they're saying, 'isn't that messed up?!' Immediately afterwards- Kev said something that was removed- any of you KZbin watchers there when this was recorded?

[@will_sketch]

HELL YEAH! I want the Smith-cut of this podcast.

[@slapthekillswitch]

I think it was just an inside joke that they planned on editing out..

[@BuckDat]

Probably said something wrong and got corrected by somebody is all.

[@TheWatcher51393]

Marc said on his Twitter that they just went on for so long that they edited it down for time; also some exclusive content to encourage a live crowd, so...

[@IT_217]

Having watched BvS in the cinema and then the extended version later, I can easily believe that there was a lot of good stuff cut out that would've improved Justice League if it hadn't been cut. The extended cut of BvS is better than the cinematic release so I don't doubt the same would apply to Justice League.

[@zerozaku1468]

Ian eh

[@chriswyble143]

I saw Civil War and BvS just about a week, or so, apart.Loved Civil War. Never wanted it to end. About 40 minutes into BvS, I was impatient for it to be over already. I pretty much grew more and more annoyed from there. That summer, I watched the extended cut of BvS, at home, with my brother, who was visiting & wanted to see it regardless of my warnings. I remembered digging the score, so figured that would be my consolation until I fell asleep. It was amazing how much shorter the 3 hour version felt than the 2-1/2 hour. Seeing the way the plot unfolded, a few pieces at a time, from opposing perspectives, like origami opening up, driven, operatically, by what is, in my opinion, one of Zimmer's best scores ever, it seemed almost obvious, that the mess of an edit I had seen a few months before, had to have been deliberate. I'm still boggled that WB would spend all that money with Snyder, confidently telling the story in a way he'd clearly spent much time mapping out, then effectively castrate the end product in a way that rendered it exhausting and near unwatchable.

[@jordanrodriguez6412]

@Dan S stfu.

[@tsmac4life]

I honestly agree with you Kevin. I am in my 50s now. Marvel comics got me through one of the most horrific childhood you can imagine! As a kid, comics gave me hope that there's some good in the world. Seeing it on the big screen is just awesome!!! I always wanted to write Stan Lee and say thank you 😞.

[@-Suhail-]

*Donner makes Superman 1. *Donner makes Superman 2 (studio meddle with it) releases the directors cut after several years. *Studio creates Superman 3 which is a parody of Donner's work. * * *Snyder creates MoS *Snyder creates BvS (studio cut 40 mins) *Studio interference hires joss with JL which is a parody. Hopefully we will get #releasethesnydercut

[@ANIpJs]

There is no goddamn Snyder cut, it's a false equivalency to compare Donner's Superman 2 with Snyder's Justice League. Donner's Superman 2 didn't require hundreds of millions of dollars in CGI animation to be watchable. Justice League would require so much more money to be pumped into a movie that is already known as one with the highest budgets ever that also flopped. WB is not going to waste the time and money on that. Plus the closest thing to a Snyder cut that actually existed was an extremely rough work cut of the raw footage, that had no CG and was missing key moments. Do you think any of the actors are willing to come back and film those scenes? Or that again WB would hire an animation team to coming in and basically remake a movie that already failed? Also Snyder's original Justice League was meant to be a part one of two, and since DC is never going to make Snyder's Justice League 2, because his vision was vastly at odds with what DC is trying to do. What's the point in being an envelope fanboy and bitching about something that will never happen. And contrary to Common wisdom do you know that hashtags don't actually do anything. So effectively all you're doing is throwing a temper tantrum like a little child.

[@-Suhail-]

@@ANIpJs lol

[@zandyzain6241]

Justice League Quest For Peace?

[@manofmartin]

@@ANIpJs it was budgeted for 54 million. That's plenty to finish up what's left. It definitely would be cheaper than the Joss reshoots.

[@Xenabuffyfan]

@@ANIpJs THANK YOU. Finally some sense.

[@skilletsnipper03hero]

WB really screwed Snyder and his plan. It's just sad we will never see it.

[@gwarriorpsxbox2978]

We can see the snyder cut, one day.

[@MGSBigBoss77]

We *WILL* see the Snyder cut, one day. You meant right?!

[@Xenabuffyfan]

@@MGSBigBoss77 There is no Snyder cut guys. The best we will get is a script and some deleted scenes. But there's no cut.

[@TheShockVox]

He shouldn’t have made BvS.

[@Xenabuffyfan]

Tony Campuzzano yeah you’ve said that before. It’s an assembly cut. Not. A. Finished. Movie. The studio won’t green light adding all the money to finish this movie. It’s not the same thing as the Ultimate Edition of BvS. THAT was a finished movie. What Zach showed regarding Justice League was not.

[@Brandon-vy6uw]

This is actually *Breaking* as of an hour ago. Zack is back. He is making a zombie heist movie for Netflix. I’m very happy for Zack. The media and the fans have treated him disgustingly. Source: The Hollywood Reporter.

[@snixelpig]

He can do Zombies!

[@Brandon-vy6uw]

Snixelmix Nyx Definitely.

[@brg9327]

It sounds fucking dope. A heist movie with mercenaries in zombie infested Las Vagas.

[@nolevique]

Fans? I think you mean manbabies.

[@tarantino900]

@Django Fett His superhero movies are waaay better than the majority of MCU movies.

[@Ahyame718]

Kevin Smith is the heart of a true nerd. Everything he said about meeting the Russos it how I would react. They are doing the Lords work! These movies will be remembered

[@BlackWave54]

The more that comes out about how Justice league was actually going to be andead up to I just have more love towards Snyder, and hearing that makes me fucking love the dude.

[@NCBCSPRINGRETREAT]

MOS and BvS are amazing masterpieces!! Release the Snyder Cut!!

[@BrosephComrade]

Snip and slurp and release dhe Snyder cut!! Beg for it

[@NCBCSPRINGRETREAT]

Great rebuttal, Sport.

[@NCBCSPRINGRETREAT]

When your opponent insults rather than creating rational arguments - you've won.

[@jordanrodriguez6412]

Hands down. Its a damn shame what we got. Just a marvel movie lmaoo

[@NCBCSPRINGRETREAT]

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[@newjerseydamo]

This episode is pure gold. So funny so many times. Love it!

[@zhodl2929]

Man I wished they just let zack do his thing.

[@MGSBigBoss77]

We all wished that happened man, we all do.

[@ericsonofjohn9384]

Hollarage I dont, he fucked the characters up enough already, and made every one hate dc

[@nolevique]

@@ericsonofjohn9384 Shut the fuck up.

[@SuperMateoWorld1988]

I second that, stfu

[@jacobaarum]

@@ericsonofjohn9384 I know he understands Superman bruh. I know cause he's my favorite fictional character of all time. Knightwing01 knows Batman and said It's the best Batman to be brought to the big screen and I'd rather see his Cyborg who was intended to be the heart of the film. Maybe a Cyborg movie would be in higher demand if his movie came out.

[@ziggyzero]

just #ReleaseTheSnyderCut

[@Xenabuffyfan]

It doesn't exist.

[@MrWarlock124]

@@Xenabuffyfan it does

[@nolevique]

@@Xenabuffyfan Why are you talking about what you don't know about? Tell that to Ray Fisher, Jason Momoa, Jay Oliva, Larry Fong, Fabian Wagner and others who said it exists and it has to exist since Zack spent 7 months in post-production.

[@Xenabuffyfan]

@@nolevique Uh-huh...Then by all means...keep wishing. ;)

[@MuhammadHaris-gd8vq]

@@Xenabuffyfan how do you feel now haaa nigga ?? It's releasing deal with it

[@alwaysxnever]

So well stated. Justice League 1,2,3 was King Diamond metal but the world definitely wanted their pop. I am just happy to see New God's and to finally meet this universe's version of Darkseid.

[@gaminggenius88]

Love love love Kevin and Marc! Thank you guys for the next 2 hours.

[@BrosephComrade]

Marc Bernard is Kevin Smith's significant half

[@jeffthibodeaux6137]

So glad to catch this while I'm at work. It's really getting me through the day.

[@RighteousBrother]

Me too - got a cup of tea on the go - drawing a few powerpoint diagrams - good times!

[@bthughes1979]

Kevin , You’re forgetting that with the bleak ending of justice league. Yes Darkseid would of ended Earth BUT remember the flash scene in BvS they would have done flashpoint and time traveled and stopped Darkseid by saving Lois !!!!

[@jbess6505]

I love watching these ole ones again and Marc's rage never gets old. Just gets better like a fine wine

[@Severen45]

At 34:32 or close to that there is a cut, I wonder what Kevin said then....

[@theanti-hypemonitor9079]

i will never ever get over this. the kind of movies we could have got. until the day i die i will murn this loss

[@AaronBurroughs]

Kevin I know you see Mark gaining weight and losing his breath taking and such, which is alarming... Talk to him about getting healthy, don't let all the new success kill him literally. He's so special we can't lose him. Him being black he's even more at risk then even you were. Say something buddy, you have to.

[@AGR298]

Aaron Burroughs For real dude. That shit sneaks up on you and it always gets harder as you get older. We don’t want him to have a Kevin wake-up call.

[@BrosephComrade]

Fountain've Youf

[@TwelveK]

Why's he at more of a risk being black? Lol

[@AaronBurroughs]

@@TwelveK blacks have a higher predisposition for high blood pressure and heart conditions.

[@MoshpitTV]

Mark mentioned Sepultura and that makes me happy.

[@kidcore3]

Right at 36:44 ( 36:42 then just keep pausing) there is one frame that says " Analyzing in background". What does that mean?

[@folarinosibodu]

I love that they dropped Beverly Hills cop 4 thinking they were making a joke not knowing that they would actually make it.

[@KitBlueMedia]

Remember, Billie Dee Williams played Harvey Dent in the first Batman movie, so having him as Two Face in a Batman Beyond movie isn't out of order, just bringing him full circle! Did you get that kid's 411? Definitely need to have a chat with him!

[@SteveStanger]

This was great!

[@ruebencastro3642]

Holy shit!! That sounded epic.. Release the Snyder Cut! Dammit!!

[@GutzOverFear]

😜😜😜

[@tromusic7815]

This is the dichotomy of the internet & comic book/movie fandom as well. 80% of these people spent the past five years shitting on Snyder, Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, & Justice League. I’m not here to argue about the quality of those movies, it’s just peculiar to see everyone clamoring for a Snyder cut of Justice League now that everything has been or will be cancelled, recast, & rebooted.

[@jeffthibodeaux6137]

I teared up at the cameo quote of stan from into the soiderverse. Fuck.

[@j.playart]

Made my day. Thanks, Fatman Beyond.

[@doctorhandsome]

I'm with Marc, Ghostbusters was lightning in a bottle. Leave it alone.

[@purefoldnz3070]

Agreed and this new film will have little kids as Ghostbusters lol WHY?

[@DanPlotMix]

@@purefoldnz3070 They never actually say it was gonna "have little kids" as Ghostbusters entirely. That's what they didn't actually say.

[@purefoldnz3070]

@@DanPlotMix Because this was recorded a few weeks ago. Its already confirmed to be about teens by the Hollywood Reporter. Sadly.

[@DanPlotMix]

@@purefoldnz3070 They didn't confirm what age they'll be, but just "teenagers". But there's a "slight chance" IF most or two of the new GB members are older teenage like 16 - 17, worthy enough to drive the Ecto-1. Source never say "kids", but only "teenagers" in any age they want to decide.

[@purefoldnz3070]

@@DanPlotMixthey are casting for a 12 year old lead so I'm leaning towards kids lol. Having said that it doesn't matter if kids or teenagers its a stupid idea. Can't Hollywood get anything right anymore?

[@IARsmiley]

In case anybody was wondering, at 36:44 the words ‘analyzing in background’ are what appear.

[@georgeabraham3522]

#ReleaseTheSnyderCut

[@avielthealienfromplanetmex5679]

1:35:13 the moment he fired from the hip and hit the snooze button.

[@robertoflaherty5663]

Just FYI, as it seemed that Kevin and Marc thought Moon Bloodgood is Native American and she's not, but actually Euro-Asian (her dad is Dutch, English, Welsh and Irish, and her mom is Korean). Great actress, but just wanted to clarify her cultural background.

[@chocobosage]

The way Marc told of writing treadstone then filming. That's basically they way British tv was worked for decades. But we usually have 6-10 episodes a series/season.

[@theotakuguy2571]

36:37 see folks people hate the green lantern 2011 film but not green lantern... If they done that it would have change the hate on GL forever...

[@forbiddencolor]

I too thought that the bus Peter was riding was for his return trip from Far From Home, but later on he says that he was on a trip to the MoMa.

[@RickReasonnz]

So... Marc's okay with the Thanos snap but it's on board with a destroyed DC earth...

[@ramimwamba9937]

When have DC ever had a fair shake at anything in the movie world

[@nolevique]

Don't you know that DC can't do anything without being judged.

[@notyouraveragebear9326]

josephthemighty Don’t Be so blind and bias. You just log on to the internet last month or something?? Don’t act like DCEU hasn’t gotten overly judged and analyzed and dissected compared to the MCU films ever since Man of Steel. That’s why WW and Aquaman is such a win. Not only because they are great films but because they’re actually successful universally. And WW still gets KZbin backlash that is overrated. Yet no one says shit about less then MCU films like Antman and the wasp. The worst you hear is bad villains and that a few jokes don’t land.

[@jacobaarum]

@@ramimwamba9937 TDK changed the Oscars' format. Far more of a triumph than a best picture nom.

[@jacobaarum]

@@notyouraveragebear9326 "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - Albert Einstein. Call WW, Aquaman or J Cole overrated all you want. It's bullshit, it's just cool to be the outlier and call something overrated nowadays. Albert is on point with his saying. Zack Snyder created a abstract, deeply layered, compound scene; and it was made into a meme. Not even a good one.

[@jeremyclements6839]

She-Hulk! Best party ever. Guaranteed!

[@MGSBigBoss77]

36:30, Gonna become a new clip and it'll be a sequel to the first Justice League (Darkseid) discussion from 2017. Wasn't Superman meeting Alfred it was Green Lantern afterall huh?

[@Vyze30]

man somehow this episode pop back on my youtube homepage and after i watched JLD apokolips week ago and the story a bit similar to what kev said about snyders supposed to be JL2, now Zack Snyders JL will be here next year, lets hope they let him finish his vision.

[@thesurfacepallete]

OH MY GOD THE LANTERN CORE

[@58kenstyle]

Aaron Domanais *Corp

[@bogdannicolas6359]

@@58kenstyle both actually

[@strawdawgs78]

Both wrong. *Corps

[@ArcaneRez]

As a science nerd myself and a super fan.. scientific terms themselves are rather second nature to utter and explain. So for instance, theoretical mathematical concepts are somewhat easier to convey. When Killer Frost/Caitlyn speaks I think she has her doctor role down pat, along with Cisco as well. Good job though guys! The show was funnier than it has been in a long while. Superman and the Batman shows were the original comic book movies/TV shows btw

[@Blueshadow866]

Omg that Justice League sound banging

[@infinihedron]

The next new Oscar category should be: Best Animated / Motion-Capture Performance. The award would got to the actor and the animation team together. Andy Serkis could then finally be recognized for his role in innovating the art.

[@BloodofBathory1560]

Moon Bloodgood isn't Inuit. She's not native, she's Irish, Dutch and Korean. Better ideas for Snowbird would be Nive Nielsen or Annabella Piugattuk, both amazing Inuit actresses.

[@jakerodney8539]

Ahaha “sometimes you just forget weeks” I relate to this so much 😂

[@Divinetragedy420]

You guys are legends

[@BigBlackGuyReviews]

I love how people are always so quick to say the feel and tone of the OG Ghostbusters can never be replicated. Forgetting that The Real Ghostbusters cartoon (specifically the first two seasons) was created by an ENTIRELY different cast/crew, and despite the cartoonish moments, genuinely felt like Ghostbusters, because the showrunner and writers UNDERSTOOD the characters, tone and overall what actually worked! Paul Feig just wanted to make a funny movie with women and call it Ghostbusters. Never once while (repeat) watching the 2016 film did I get the impression he was a legit fan, as opposed to someone who just liked the IDEA of GB.

[@gwarriorpsxbox2978]

#releasethesnydercut

[@BrosephComrade]

Bat-Man

[@kombinatsiya6000]

I love it when Marc blows Kev's mind with better versions of movies they have seen or about to see. Just proves how good he is as a writer.

[@ryanwalters1682]

Black Panther wasn't even the best superhero movie of the year, much less best picture.

[@MGSBigBoss77]

Glad the film finally got to be made, but what you said was the truth though. Aquaman and Avengers: Infinity War were slightly better movies. And i hated the overuse of humor in Infinity War but scale and stakes wise, it was a bigger film which had more drama and set up though. And the threat of Thanos was built up since the MCU's Phase 1. Black Panther was a great movie, but if it got to be nominated for an Oscar, then so should've Aquaman and The Incredibles 2. cos Black Panther sure isn't winning them with poor visual effects in its third act!

[@matterstoyou2970]

Ryan Walters it’s not PC to say that in our country at the moment lol but I agree

[@ryanwalters1682]

@@matterstoyou2970 I'm bold enough to tell the truth.

[@VinylSamuraisMusic]

Ryan Walters Panther is way down the line. Infinity War Winter Soldier First Avenger Civil War Avengers Assemble Iron Man Thor Ragnarok Age Of Ultron AntMan Black Panther Iron Man 2 Thor That’s roughly what I love. That’s my honest opinion iron man would probs be higher but when I think of watching them all that’s my GO TO. Black Panther is a bang average movie. I see it and am in no rush to watch it again. Like Dr Strange. Yeh it was okay. Enjoyed it, but I’m not madly buzzing to watch it again. As much as I wanna praise what Panther achieved on the political aspect it should be respected and celebrated for that. Not as a BEST PICTURE. So it’s on par with GodFather? Are you dumb

[@danielmims8467]

Black panther was just Disney's latest retelling of the story of kimba the white lion which they stole and remade into the lion king also. It's the same exact story and they also take place in Africa. Oh and they're gonna make another billion off the live action lion king that comes out.

[@707Forty9erRider]

In the Spider-Man trailer it shows Aunt May packed the suit for Peter in his suitcase for him, with a note.

[@ohxlalax]

The first time I saw infinity war I thought when tony asked peter, “where’d you come from?” Peter said, “the future.” Someone told me he said “a field trip” and then that’s what I heard every time I watched it after. Now Marc makes me think what I heard meant something 🤔

[@DuranmanX]

Have they both discussed their top 10 movies of 2018 yet?

[@netforce0]

I'm not sure. They might have forgotten since they are so busy lol

[@LughSummerson]

I hear there's a new Oscar category this year: Best Fistfight in a Paddling Pool.

[@Rizzcracker]

I wish Devil was called Hellivator.

[@reelkonversationswithryank4945]

In a world where Halloween and Terminator (and Alien as planned by Neill Blomkamp) are deleting parts of their canon and sequelizing the first one or two original films, this is my Batman Beyond: - only "Batman" and "Batman Returns" exist ("Batman Forever" and "Batman and Robin" are ret-conned out) - get Tim Burton to direct (more likely to get his originals back to work with him) - Michael Keaton as Batman/Bruce Wayne (obviously) - Michelle Pfieffer as Selina Kyle has given up crime and married Bruce Wayne - Damian Wayne son of Selina and Bruce (could be the Batman Beyond or just running Wayne Enterprises) - Terry McGinnis (if Damian isn't the Batman Beyond) - Billy Dee Williams returns as Harvey Dent / Two-Face as he always should have been in Batman Forever (you could use some de-aging effects to show his origin story, now in Arkham where you could cameo other members of the Rogues Gallery) - Talia Al Ghul - former love of Bruce Wayne - plotting in the present - Ra's Al Ghul - former trainer turned foe of Bruce/Batman, defeated by Batman in a flashbak (now in Arkham) escapes and returns for vengeance (teamed up with his daughter Talia - Ra's and Talia find Bruce's illegitimate child from Vicki Vale (Kim Basinger reprises her role) and somehow uses it for blackmail or hostage situation - Robert Wuhl still investigating the sightings of "the BAT" - Danny Elfman to score the film Mic Drop! Let's "blue sky" this shit!!! I will also come to work for company that has zero million dollars for development projects.

[@AG-jp2ni]

Marc's disdain for Snyder/DC couldn't be more apparent. I wish Kevin had the chance to geek out with someone who wasnt so dismissive. Whether you hate Snyder or like him, fleshing out that info would've been nice.

[@PSYCHOBEVO]

Yeah, Marc sucks.

[@Plantaman]

"I'm hung like a horse" is the best comeback ever.

[@PREUSONE]

#ReleasetheSnyderCut

[@contactkeithstack]

Peter says he's on a museum field trip in infinity war right? Can't be coming back from Europe.

[@juniorberns]

If Tom Cruise is in Marvel, he would be a villain. You're looking at the head of Osborne Corps

[@nolevique]

Tom Cruise is Hal Jordan.

[@spacepope87]

That Alfred scene has been available on KZbin for over 6 months. It was indeed Superman. They blew smoke up your ass or you think they were far more involved than they were.

[@SalvadorChaosOfficial]

#ReleaseTheSnyderCut!!!

[@Panthror]

36:44 The text in the flash you see here reads: Analyzing in background. And here's my pitch for a Batman Beyond movie: Timothee Chalamet as Terry McGinnis and Kevin Conroy as old Bruce Wayne. I know people love Keaton but he won't be on screen much, and how great would it be to have Kevin's voice as Bruce in Terry's ear giving him instructions? For a villain I'd probably go with a Riddler copycat (or his son/grandson taking up the mantle), and basically use my pitch for a noir Batman movie set around Christmas, where Batman has to stop Riddler from disrupting the celebrations in Gotham and solve his clues to do so. So while the new Batman fights the villains, the old Batman shows us he hasn't lost his detective skills for solving weird crimes. And all this directed by Shane Black.

[@fightingweasles]

It sound like the vision for JL was epic, if only they had a director who could do more than visuals. Hopefully they can use the story boards to make a three animated movie series to get that vision.

[@David-And-A-Half]

Exactly. The vision was great but I think we'd say the same thing about Man of Steel and Batman v Superman if they were never actually made.

[@nolevique]

You are fucking idiot.

[@KandaEzana]

You're an idiot

[@Crunch_Buttsteak]

Sigh.

[@Xenabuffyfan]

Actually, an animated movie might also be feasible. They could definitely fork out the money for that. They DEFINITELY won't pump it out to finish the assembly cut. But an animated movie could definitely be done. The animated films of DC have an average budget of 3.5 million dollars. That's totally doable. And the studio wouldn't consider it a huge loss. If the DVD sales hit 5 million like Death of Superman did, then they'd at least make a modest 2 million profit.

[@Cameron_Kerby]

I seem to remember Peter telling Tony he was on a field trip to MoMA.

[@nobodynoone7271]

Marc is critical of everything. Everything except BP.

[@Crunch_Buttsteak]

I'm not a fan of the guy.

[@davidjeffery9493]

Wrong.....go back to the older episodes of this when black panther first came out....he was poking all types of holes in the movie...like he always does...I did not like his review of the movie and he seems like a hypocrite for writing about it now that it has an oscar nod

[@nobodynoone7271]

David Jeffery I don’t remember that at all. Maybe a link and time stamp would help. Marc and Kevin both blow BP constantly in the last few shows.

[@thespeedcuber8105]

What about him talking about into the spiderverse? You fuckwit

[@luisarturoibarra]

Nobody Noone just because he is black..... same reason that movie is nominated.... just for support diversity.... which is fucking bullshit

[@StevieBoy215]

Wow this is amazing to hear now

[@rauls.5544]

#RELEASETHESNYDERCUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@santaclause8095]

24:00 The Snap....i worked in a comic shop back in 2008 or so, i remember talkin to my co-worker, he was tellin us they were making movies, big big deal, he already knew where it was going, he knew about the snap and even mentioned that "they" knew that it was the big moment. Just couldnt help but share when i hear kevin Smith talk his talk....we ALL already knew, it happened in the comics.

[@MyUsualMe]

The Batman Beyond story premise? Joker and Harley have a kid (Lucy Quinzel) that gains access to Poison Ivy's toxins, Bane's Venom drug as well as Scarecrow's fear formula. A bad combination of these substances cause her to go over the edge. She works in the pharmaceutical department of Wayne Enterprises and is Lucius Fox's replacement. The drugs cause her to go mad in interim fits which is why for a time the new batman thinks he can save her. There may be a budding romance in there a well to mirror the Batman/Catwoman trope but we all know what happens when you have sex with crazy.

[@TheKagedReview]

"It's very metal in a world that wanted pop!" Boy that statements more true than people realize!

[@ObjectivelyOpinionated]

Cruise as Wolverine? Yeah, no. I'd rather give up seeing Wolvie on the big screen than see that shite.

[@neighborhoodginger4444]

I don't like most of the DCEU movies, but seeing that trilogy would have been something I could get behind. I don't think they would've been good, but it would definitely be a vision I could get behind. Better than the direct Avengers knock-off we actually ended up getting.

[@silver6ackspeaks558]

Tom Cruise is way too short to be Mr. Fantastic 😂

[@k.delpino1124]

Superman the movie(1978) was nominated for several oscars. But it received a special achievement oscar for visual effects. Techincally it was the first superhero film to be honored at the academy awards.

[@holveragtz]

Into the spider verse is more deserving than black panther to be honest.

[@joogoolicks6546]

The original script for JL: Darkseid boomtubes into batcave > kills Lois Lane > Superman succumbs to the Anti life equation > Flash, Batman, Half of cyborg find a way to time travel (Knightmare sequence in BVS) > Lois is the key! and so on and so forth.

[@Midi3e]

What a great show, thanks man.

[@D0nkih0te91]

Lets face it, nothing about Black Panther shouts "Best Picture". I'm huge comic fan, and I enjoy a comic book movie as much as the next person ... but nominating Black Panther is just Hollywood taking a pity at the black community. It's a good movie, but its the same formula as the other Marvel movies. The only real difference was that it was overwhelmingly filled with black actors (understandable). They're basically throwing a bone. This is even more sad than not being nominated. I mean if Black Panther is was good enough for 7 nominations, I recon at least a half of the other movies could have just as easily been nominated previously.

[@Sfdjdhrh]

Its gross that BP got nominated. Its definitely not a best picture. You could argue maybe theres a shortage of great films this year. But then you realize infinity war wasnt nominated. This is an agenda push, and that's bullshit.

[@djnkosi]

Black Panther has a higher Rotten Tomatoes score than any other film nominated for best picture. It grossed more than any other film at the domestic box office last year. So I'm puzzled why such a critical and commercial success is now being questioned for its best picture nom. Perhaps more disturbing is the reaction from the so-called geek community. Black Panther stands on the shoulders of the great superhero / comic book movies that came before it. Superman, The Dark Knight, Winter Soldier, etc. all paved the way for BP's success. This nomination for BP is not only also a victory for those previous films but it also opens up the door for future comic book / super hero / genre films to be taken seriously / win awards going forward. Why isn't fandom now in universal celebration over this? But yet, again, now all of these so-called geeks and comic fans are coming out and hating on BP. It really makes you wonder what's really going on here? 🤔 Lastly, to say that the film is only receiving props out of pity for the black community is downright offensive. We can do better people. If the success of BP bothers you for some reason, and your critique is not based on the film itself, then you probably need to look in the mirror, be honest with yourself, and ask why? The bottom line is that Black Panther is the most mature, socially significant, well written, best directed, best acted, and frankly most important film in the MCU to date. As geeks and comic book / super hero / genre fans / etc. we should all be celebrating this win for our community. Wakanda Forever!

[@Sfdjdhrh]

@@djnkosi djnkosi just because a movie is highly rated. Doesnt mean it earns that rating as a movie. People gave it a higher rating then it deserved because of its cultural significance. Not solely because it was a good movie. Infinity war box office 2 billion. More then black panther. So clearly that's a lie. You seem to have an agenda as well.

[@docstrange2k]

If white people weren't such assholes than this horrible travesty would have never happened.

[@Sfdjdhrh]

@@docstrange2k *some white people

[@HOLYGRAILSTONE]

I paid see Dawn of Justice when it first came out ..I loved that movie thanks for posting dude!

[@MrHelloKittyFan69]

#releasethesnydercut #itexists

[@abm5314]

I LOVE YOU SOOOOO MUCH Kevin Patrick Smith ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@eliazarvalentine7690]

I think far from home is a prequel before infinity wars If you remember what Tony said to Peter in the beginning of infinity wars where you been? Peter says I was at a field trip

[@dk2309]

Already confirmed to be after the End Game.

[@michaelpersico7065]

Relentless DK endgame will surprise us w the time stone wiping all the events of infinity war for the some parrt

[@phantom_thief_jk9859]

The field trip in infinity war was supposed to be a Washington trip

[@WhoDat1829]

Nope

[@howcanihelpyou4943]

Spider-Verse is the best comic movie I've ever seen and I've seen em all. Disagree away!

[@TheFaustianMan]

Kevin any thoughts on Glass?

[@BrosephComrade]

Give it up for Kevin "Jason is my muse" Smith

[@samufish]

For some reason I love hearing Marc speak. He talks good shit lol.

[@AllYouWantAndMore]

The first superhero movie nominated and won the Oscar in 1957 for best picture. It was called The Ten Commandments.

[@senseisteve3374]

That's a good point lol

[@PlayNiceFolks]

I thought that was a documentary?

[@xxpantherxx1237]

They mean first comic book superhero movie

[@Julusnc]

Dick!

[@TheFlash-rh2el]

Birdman WON Best Picture. Comic Book, yeah, but not Superhero. Regardless of parody, regardless of the subtext, you need the pallette and in order to commentate on the state of a certain genre, that film needs to inherit and use major Verisimilitudinous elements of the genre.

[@manuelmezquita9462]

anyone has the original files of fatman on batman? im looking for the greg capullo interview, jim lee geof johns stan lee all those !

[@xmenotux]

AAAAARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!! #RELEASETHESNYDERCUT #BRINGBACKZACKSNYDER!!!!

[@Gant723]

Kevin and marks faces at 54:30 when they heard last air bender had me laugh out of my chair