Justice Sonia Sotomayor Uses Diabetes And Insulin As An Example In Idaho Abortion Case

Justice Sonia Sotomayor questioned Joshua Turner, attorney for Idaho's Office of the Attorney General, during Wednesday’s oral arguments in Moyle v. United States & Idaho v. United States.
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[@arielmcgillacuddy6640]

She sounds like the voice of reason!

[@ij2750]

No state has the right to tell a doctor how to treat a patient unless that treatment is outside the norm of generally excepted practice. If a doctor is recommended an abortion and the patient is in agreement the state should stay out of the way.

[@gordonhancock6030]

Abortion is not health care. Pregnancy is not an illness it is a perfectly normal function of a woman. Killing the unborn child is murder!

[@johnjaso385]

Dr.s don’t know it all.

[@paulmorrow5905]

murder is murder,, as Harris would say you need to get to root of the issue.. why did she get pregnant in the first place

[@ij2750]

@@johnjaso385 Does anyone?

[@grey5751]

@@johnjaso385 they _are_ typically the nost knowledgeable option we have, so i'm not sure why you'd comment this

[@heavypen]

Given that the real controversy is between faith and medical science, I'd rather see our laws follow science as they had for nearly two decades.

[@crispinfornoff206]

You don’t have to be religious to know that killing the unborn is wrong.

[@garrettwill1220]

I would agree with what you said but I have a feeling you are pro-abortion. Science says life begins at fertilization, and we have a right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Abortion is the intentional killing of a life. I would argue that the Faith its actually on the side of pro-abortion advocates as they have faith that women's rights are more important than the unborn child in the womb.

[@lbelton8886]

Never thought that we'd the days when pregnant women are turned away at the ER while they're experiencing a miscarriage, refused treatment, and told to go home to pray.

[@deeprollingriver52]

Example with citations?

[@ericveldman6259]

@@deeprollingriver52 You know there is no example to provide you, just a nonsensical made up anecdote.

[@PuaOlena-fj9oc]

Bring back forced military draft for all young boys

[@narda1072]

Its happening in texas n florida. Just search it on youtube

[@stormyweather2807]

@@deeprollingriver52 one of the women suing Texas.... "Elizabeth Weller, for example, was hospitalized after her water broke at 19 weeks. She was given antibiotics and, according to the suit, instructed to pray. Her OB/GYN concluded that, without an abortion, she risked an infection and could lose her uterus or even her life."

[@geraldburns2328]

Every patient is different. The doctor knows what the patient needs. The state and even the federal government doesnt know jack squat.

[@4dogs999]

We don’t want exceptions we don’t want specialties to the rule we want freedom to make our own choices regardless and we don’t want to state or the government or certainly not the Supreme Court justices telling me what to do with my body telling me what kids I can and can’t have. I had a family member that had three miscarriages and during the height of this in Kentucky they denied her the medication that she needed to prevent her from possibly dying and definitely getting very sick and having to take care of that situation at home by herself. She has since had a beautiful bouncing baby but she lost 3 to miscarriages. this is not your business this is not your decision leave our bodies alone!!!! Vote Blue And let’s add a few more Supreme Court justices to balance out the hypocris in this one

[@johnwhitmore4395]

Women get out of that state ! Save your lives !

[@cs4201]

You sound ridiculous

[@narda1072]

@@cs4201he sounds right

[@ss-ds2dn]

Nearly 1 in 4 OB/GYNs already have 😬

[@j.mccarthy3008]

Idaho should just stick to growing potatoes 🥔. Leave women’s health, lives, and babies 👶 alone.

[@garrettwill1220]

Government has a responsibility to protect life, thats like one of the largest fundamental responsibilities of government. Abortion terminates a life, so its definitely governments prerogative to be involved involved in it whether they choose one way or the other.

[@TTTristan1]

@@garrettwill1220 Funny how that only works while the baby isn't born yet. The same people who want abortion to be illegal want to eliminate school funding, food stamps, raise healthcare prices, and force kids to give birth. It's like having your cake and eating it too. No need to fund anything that protects and nurtures the baby once it's born, and you don't have to lift a finger while the mother is forced to use her own body to create it.

[@sandramjrd8179]

@@garrettwill1220 So does school shootings take lives and there is no uproar about that - yet woman have to bear children irregardless of their circumstances or health with NO SUPPORT! I bet if men had to pay up and it was written into law -- we probably would have to have abortions then

[@narda1072]

@@garrettwill1220shut up

[@lindarichards8334]

Oh my God, I can’t believe this crap

[@grey5751]

Yeah, she laid it out pretty clearly and he absorbed none of it.

[@MargaretB-im7ts]

Sotomayor is Right!!

[@JesusChrist-ng9js]

SICK AND TIRED OF GOVERNMENT BEING IN OUR LIVES

[@JuanRuiz-nm3xu]

I just like when they make sure our milk won’t kill kids

[@johnsnow5955]

My favorite part is you probably vote Republican the party trying to control your lives LOLOL

[@PixlPutterMan]

So leave

[@paulmorrow5905]

you can always go to Canada

[@spinoff55]

@@PixlPutterMan You first. Most Americans want the government to leave us the hell alone.

[@neilkratzer3182]

I'm hoping the patient and doctor can make an informed decision on health of the patient. This shouldn't be rocket science.

[@thomasjones4570]

The opioid crisis wants to have a word with you about how trustworthy doctors are today...

[@itszkk]

@@thomasjones4570 Fine, then ignore the advice of the doctor and continue with the pregnancy. The legislature doesn't practice medicine, doctors do. The state overriding medical best practices is never going to be a viable solution

[@thomasjones4570]

@@itszkk I accept your lack of refute as a sign of concession. The legislature practices NOTHING but governance, its their job...do you think they should not speak on murder either since they are not police officers and do not practice law enforcement?!? Go away because its clear you are not capable of forming an argument at an adult level and this topic is for adults.

[@itszkk]

@@thomasjones4570 Nice strawman, yeah the government really shouldn't be making a lot of decisions because the law moves painfully slow and that's by design. Topics like this are enormously complicated and without the right context the legislature is going to make really bad decisions. See Tax law, min wage law, environmental law, etc. The issue with Idaho's abortion law is the "life of the mother" exception is so narrow that unless the mother "is about to die" doctors have their hands tied. God forbid an expectant mother learns of a cancer diagnosis at the same time as her pregnancy. Idaho law would say "unless the mother is about to die from cancer, you can't have an abortion" that's an absurd standard. So yeah, you're not adult enough to have this conversation

[@thomasjones4570]

@@itszkk I love how people just call a thing a strawman so they do not have to address it because it hurts the brain way too much to even try it. You were proven wrong, either come up with a refute that shows it does not or walk away with the clear loss like an adult would because its even way too easy to use your own insult right back on you since you embody them and are projecting.

[@tuliashuliva2646]

So what I'm hearing is that his argument is that he doesn't like the existence of a law that says 'medical care has to be left up to doctors.' He'd much rather if he, a lawyer/political activist, were en charge of everyone's medical care.

[@oldmanghost219]

Exactly. Late term abortions are already about the life and heath of the mother so why do we need a ban?

[@priscillamoore5736]

@tuliashuliva2646 ~ He doesn't want to be in charge of everyone's medical care, just WOMEN'S health care.

[@zrsous8874]

What counselor is saying is, federal law requiring doctors to save patients is based on a national standard of acceptable practices (broad). Idaho wants to narrow that standard to what they think are acceptable standards of practice to save a life when an abortion is required (narrow). Idaho’s narrow standard would preempt federal law, to which Sormayor is saying, “well then any state could use this argument to have state law override federal law” which violates the supremacy clause.

[@cyclemadness]

I'm glad they at least provide the audio right away for supreme court arguments. I think it helps engagements.

[@marialarrechea1686]

How can any state dictate medical care when HIPPA law protects patient privacy of medical conditions and treatment? And why is a “D and C”, dilation and curretage medical procedure being referred to as an abortion?

[@ronmoore6598]

because they use for abortions.

[@stevene6482]

The state allowed mandatory vaccination and the use of vaccine passports. Those would cover both care and privacy being dictated.

[@lauriebriggs9705]

@@stevene6482I believe that abortion is not a pandemic. Unwanted or a dangerous pregnancy is not a disease that spreads through human contact and causes hundreds of thousands of deaths and millions of people to get very Ill. When public safety comes into play it can be legitimate to dictate medical care and precautions. I can’t believe you cannot perceive the difference.

[@susanpendell4215]

Because there is such an abortion that doesn't just that. They mutilate and cut up the baby and vaccumn it out. See 'Silent Scream'. it's nauseating to say the least. Poor poor innocent that never had a chance because mother wanted it butchered.😢😢😢😢😢

[@marialarrechea1686]

And what is anyone thinking forcing births of unwanted, unloved, deformed and or neglected children will do for our society? I see as a result a big increase in poverty and welfare recipients, increase of people suffering mental illness, child abuse, gang violence, mass shootings, etc from being unwanted, neglected, and/or unloved. Increased birth defects requiring long term and lifelong care. And those traumatized children will soon be adults.

[@williamgullett5911]

Activist Sonia

[@kathyblack6651]

My body belongs to me. My choices are mine. Government has no place or voice in what any women chooses for themselves!

[@Frug4l]

Cool, leave the baby out of it then

[@susanpendell4215]

A baby isn't your body, but their own individual person, blood type and all.

[@shaunmorris9190]

I wish the government would stay out of it when they decided they would make men pay for child support when they didn't want the baby but here we are. In fact there are times when a man has to pay for children who aren't even his.keep the government out of my wallet.how about that?

[@aislinndrew]

@@susanpendell4215If it’s not our body then take it out, let it survive and grow on its own.

[@joanhampton2378]

True, but if you are pregnant that fetus is NOT part of your body. It has distinct DNA. That is the whole point ! You are free to choose any means of contraception you deem appropriate or convenient, but if it fails, or you just don't use it, you have to face the fact that another person's rights need to be considered. This is what you an all those who think this way refuse to acknowledge ! You are looking for a way out that suits you, despite the harm it does to others.

[@deborahmurray7698]

This is what happens when people-who have No medical training try to diagnose sick people😮😢

[@priscillamoore5736]

@deborahmurray7698 - The lawyers don't seem to mind that they're trying to practice medicine without licenses.

[@unbreakable7633]

Legislative bodies practice medicine a lot. And it's wrong. I don't want government looking over my shoulder when I seek medical care, telling me what medicines I can take or what procedures I can have, not the business of government. The essence of liberty is simply leaving others alone. Not many people are willing to do that now on either side. Both sides hate the Constitution, just depends on which parts.

[@mdj.6179]

So what about something like unregulated botox injections?

[@texrifleman]

What about vacancies or masking?

[@unbreakable7633]

@@mdj.6179 What about it?

[@texrifleman]

@@mdj.6179 That kinda works its self out with out help.

[@crispinfornoff206]

Abortion is murder, not medicine.

[@healingasthmaacasestudy9851]

Idaho’s law is disgusting

[@priscillamoore5736]

@healingasthmacasestudy9851 ~ And, Arizona, and Texas, and, and...

[@MargaretB-im7ts]

Justice Sotomayor,,,,please,,,,,stand your ground on this!!!!

[@Navigator2166]

Thank you, Justice Sotomayer. The application of medical standards makes too much sense for these blind folks.

[@davidanalyst671]

canadian medical standards include euthanasia. Thats what this is. Euthanasia for unborn children. your definition of medical standards is a lie, and it doesn't define when life begins.

[@Frug4l]

Muder is not medical assistance.

[@babysteps7600]

U tube just hid my comment. Must be over the target!

[@unidahl5821]

Yes this was an interesting monologue. I wish we could hear some answers also.

[@cakrit99]

Agree! Justice Sotoamayer never let Idaho fully answer any question.

[@scottmerritt9877]

Three points: 1. Human biology doesn’t change state-to-state (so Dobbs is fundamentally wrong). 2. Best medical practice can change (as we learn more). In contrast, state laws banning and restricting abortion guarantee sub-optimal care. 3. As with the U..S. court of patent appeals, where the Supreme Court implicitly admits its ignorance, one may need to refer medical ethics matters to a court of greater specialized competence. (also see point 2).

[@garrettwill1220]

1 and 2 contradict each other. If human biology doesn't change, yet best medical practices do, then why would state laws banning and restricting abortion guarantee suboptimal care? What if best medical practice changed to indicate that banning and restricting abortion was best practice. Should banning lobotomies not have been a thing? Furthermore I would argue that as the medical literature is not a single body, different states are entitled to different opinions on what best medical practice may be. How much testing must be done before approval might differ in the eyes of the people and medical bodies of each state.

[@kelleylea5]

@@garrettwill1220you beat me to it, well said!

[@TowneSquareSinger]

Weird headline, given that she is talking about state vs federal law, not diabetes and insulin.

[@mdj.6179]

Professional standards change because of regular reviews of best practices. The constitution is supposed to be a living document. Not one that prevents reviews of outcomes...

[@I.Odnamra]

Wrong. Professional standards change because of lobbyists and a compromised system. Try again.

[@grey5751]

@I.Odnamra this is _also_ true, not mutually exclusive. hopefully we'll fix that bit, eventually, but alas.

[@davinxi5926]

Licensing board ensures that right : or another agency and keeps up to date with innovative and proven methods and practice

[@Jami-vm1zv]

There's no such thing as a living document. 🙄

[@Clandestined13]

It's not a living document, the interpretation is in the federalist papers. It's meant to be interpreted from the time at which it was written. The founding fathers had a better education than most do now. They didn't mince words.

[@brendamann6106]

Generally accepted practice is just that. It is based on evidence, reasonable standards of practice. It isn’t that variable. Medical practice has defined steps required to be followed in diagnosis and treatment. Practitioners have to justify changing or omitting steps. Pregnancies are dangerous. There are many situations that require intervention to protect the child, to protect the mother. If the mother isn’t going to do well the child certainly won’t. A pregnant woman who is bleeding, whose water has broken has to deliver that child or die. If there is a miscarriage the 4:44 may die without quick intervention. These laws are being passed on emotions and for political power not from medical knowledge or care of mother and child. No physician is going to risk license or prison if a non medical judge will second guess a judgment on an emergency case.

[@ij2750]

Overturning Roe V Wade is going backwards had it been left in place we would not have to be dealing with what Idaho wants to do in fact the law makers in that state are crazy when it comes to medical treatment.

[@jasonc4641]

Democrats had multiple opportunities to codify it into law. They would rather have the issue to run on. Neither side cares.

[@johnjaso385]

Obama and Xiden had ample opportunity to make changes. The life in the womb matters. Get over it.

[@crispinfornoff206]

Abortion is murder, not medicine.

[@davinxi5926]

And Ohio

[@kevinchambers1101]

It needed to be overturned because each state should be deciding. You just don't like the fact that voters in one state disagree with you.

[@stephwiller9089]

I've never been so happy not to be in the US.

[@THall-vi8cp]

She made some good points but kept cutting the guy off. Came across as grandstanding. I'd like to hear what the guy was trying to say in response.

[@kerwingray9386]

My position on abortion is that the time period should run until one year post-gestation to make it fair to men. Although this is a state issue not a federal issue and is not addressed by the constitution.

[@joanhampton2378]

Are you advocating for infanticide ?

[@kerwingray9386]

@@joanhampton2378 Correct. If we are making it legal to kill developing humans, why should it be limited to the moment of birth?

[@mikepatterson6416]

Get the damn government out of women's health! Simple.

[@critterg8493]

So if the Supreme Court rules on something then why can states change or alter anything they rule on the constitution or supreme courts ruling

[@j.n.sloane]

When is it ever a felony for a doctor to save a MAN'S health? But they want to be allowed to let a woman suffer harm ONLY because she is pregnant. They are saying that women don't matter, only the fetus matters.

[@terrydillon9323]

Sadly, the only friend women have anymore is Smith and Wesson.

[@lindawmac3873]

Thankyou mam

[@dogownrpenna]

Gotta feeling this will be a 6-3 decision...

[@ericowen56]

I enjoyed your video

[@gilesbowman1189]

Abortion is a choice and shows lack of responsibility, DM is not a choice.

[@imalikconnor]

Idaho is saying "let women die."

[@perfectlymade1532]

This is why I always say. I degree without common-sense is null!!!!!!!

[@keshaconner230]

I believe People are Entitled to Their Right’s and; if People Choose or Not Choose that is Their Choice; that Include’s Abortion’s.😮.

[@kelleylea5]

I believe you are wrong. I don’t think the baby is just a choice. It’s a life, murder is wrong. They could have chosen birth control prior to becoming pregnant. Responsibility is the real issue, if you don’t want to have a baby, then don’t get pregnant, and if you screw up, don’t take it out on a human life that is not yours. I’m talking to men and women, they are both responsible.

[@TTTristan1]

@@kelleylea5 When you say "a human life", what do you mean exactly? Are you saying a fetus has a soul or has the potential to become a thinking feeling human being? Or something else? Because a lot of people hold value in "human life" meaning a thinking feeling human being, not a clump of cells or undeveloped fetus. If you mean that it has potential to be someone one day, then you out to start freezing all your eggs to combine with sperm as often as possible, because that's a lot of dead potential kids you're otherwise failing.

[@kelleylea5]

@@TTTristan1 conception is the beginning of life, it does have the same value as any other human. But, it does not follow that all eggs and all sperm should be frozen so we can have more people. You are stating an extreme point as if it inevitably follows the idea that valuable human life begins at conception. That’s an argument that is not reasonable.

[@TTTristan1]

@@kelleylea5 It's not an extreme point. It follows from the logic. If a fertilized egg has potential to become a thinking and feeling human being, and if that potential is what you hold value in, then any egg and sperm also have that potential. You just have to combine them. The fertilized egg is only one step forward in the process.

[@kelleylea5]

@@TTTristan1 it does not follow logic. I did not say I valued potential, I said I valued the person. I value the life at conception, I was very clear.

[@lbelton8886]

I've often wondered how different this issue would be if men were the one's that got pregnant and bore all of the medical risks inherently involved with pregnancy or miscarriage?

[@priscillamoore5736]

It's a pity all the women and girls in these states can't move, leaving men as the only occupants in certain states. That *might* wake up the hard-liner men. Or, not.

[@kdog6384]

FDT !

[@crispinfornoff206]

Cry more.

[@joebauers8062]

Poor jurisprudence when you are telling an attorney what they are *attempting* to say while you interrupt their response to your question. Happy to hear Roberts interrupt Sotomayor to say he wants to hear the answer.

[@richardcorona3564]

Nope. She sees through the sham of his argument.

[@joebauers8062]

@@richardcorona3564 a judges authority is to rule on the merits of the argument, not to pass judgement during the oral argument. Additional questioning exposes a weak argument, berating it just illustrates bias.

[@user-lf3iu3bo3w]

I is smart

[@NPC_YouTube]

i think everything we have created is artificially made therefore everything manmade should not be allowed to be used. like ever.

[@Fernandez218]

government policy is obtuse

[@luhellin196]

This lady asks shxt and want no answers. Silly.

[@oldmanghost219]

So what happened to all those people before Roe was overturned that were saying that they would allow for exceptions like Rape & incest and the health of the mother? I have a question for you. If you advocate for a 20 week ban,.... Why would you need a ban if late term abortions are already about the problem pregnancies?

[@susanford2388]

incest is rape

[@cs4201]

​@@susanford2388 incest and rape are not the same. Rape is against will of one involved. Incest can be completely voluntary. Rape is never.

[@susanford2388]

@@cs4201 When an uncle or father is forcing themselves on the niece or daughter that is rape. Get a grip

[@DouglasCMossop]

when does a lay person knows better then a MD u r going afar with this doctor r of the mind 2 do no harm have they taking that out also

[@tominmo8865]

The wise Latina speaks.....

[@O.J._is_Guilty]

Words that have never been said

[@thomasjones4570]

Anyone calling this wisdom just shows how lacking they are in it. Apply it to anything else. A doctor saying your legs need to be amputated or you will lose your life...but does not need to show anything that proves it. Just shut up and accept that the doctor has your best interest in mind and is telling the truth. Should turn out REALLY well in a country where doctors are OWNED by the health industry and created millions of opioid addicts for kickbacks. Perhaps the next thing they will push is to get millions on Chemo because they dont need to PROVE you have cancer, they can just tell you so you go get a million dollars worth of poison. "Fuck Proof" ~ Sonia Sotomayor

[@kevinchambers1101]

She's not wise, she's confused with her comparing apples to oranges.

[@rjrickenbach4346]

DEI Over her head.

[@user-oy9zy6cy2q]

Box of rocks…

[@keshaconner230]

I Disagree. It’s their Choice. 😊

[@myralhf]

We need to hear more transparency in the SC...good to hear Sotomyer!! She speaks on behalf of women and womens health.

[@cherylbastow1379]

No, she doesn't, only to end the life of the baby!!

[@maxalberts2003]

The people who promote and attempt to legally mandate forced birth won't agree that she made a valid comparison. Ex. Texas, and Florida, etc. Planned Parenthood will have to call out the National Guard. These forced birthers are relentless and aggressive and they mean business.

[@joanhampton2378]

Have you never heard of birth control or moral restraint ?

[@cs4201]

It's called being responsible.

[@brianphillips9152]

She is making a good point. The only response I guess is: Because "God"?

[@crispinfornoff206]

People who don’t believe in God also think killing the unborn is wrong.

[@thomasjones4570]

Apply it to anything else. A doctor saying your legs need to be amputated or you will lose your life...but does not need to show anything that proves it. Just shut up and accept that the doctor has your best interest in mind and is telling the truth. Should turn out REALLY well in a country where doctors are OWNED by the health industry and created millions of opioid addicts for kickbacks. Perhaps the next thing they will push is to get millions on Chemo because they dont need to PROVE you have cancer, they can just tell you so you go get a million dollars worth of poison. "Fuck Proof" ~ Sonia Sotomayor

[@christoffelster6303]

Atheist here. Abortion is murder of an innocent life. If the life of the mother is in question it is still a tough situation. Stop acting like is not the ending of a life.

[@crispinfornoff206]

You don’t need to be religious to know that abortion kills an innocent human life.

[@EponineReads]

If your doctor told you your heart is bad or your liver was bad and the only answer is a transplant you would get your you-know-what on a waiting list and get the surgery ASAP. They don't tell you that for kicks. They wouldn't tell you your fetus is bad for kicks either. get the abortion right away. As for heartbeat law...according to biology all animals on this earth look like a human fetus as it is in first stages. It makes sense to me that if a frog's heart beats even after death having a heartbeat doesn't equal life.

[@Huntinghogs]

Wow…

[@davinxi5926]

How do determine if the fetus is “bad” that can be subjective

[@grey5751]

@@davinxi5926 the subjective perspective here being that of a _medical professional_

[@HellNoMoreBiden]

​@@davinxi5926it's why these people aren't your doctor. The Bible says so much like the good works of evil people are cruel.

[@samturnerii6062]

You've been indoctrinated by Haekel's fraudulent, dishonest images of fetuses which he claimed belonged to different species, yet looked similar during the early stages of development. Even if what you're saying is true and the illustrations were true, how would the similarity of human and non-human embryo appearances guarantee their biological/physiological similarity as adults? They look nothing alike as adults and have innumerable dissimilar characteristics. We cannot breath through our skin like frogs. Our hearts are not even similar to frog heart. The hearts of frogs have two atria and one ventricle, while human hearts have two atria and two ventricles. Our circulatory systems are vastly different but you're willing to bet a human life on the fictional, physical similarities between frog embryos and human embryos. Chickens can run around with their heads cut off. So what. Sometimes, what makes sense to us does not actually make sense in reality.

[@johnjaso385]

The life in the womb matters.

[@jd7089]

According to who?

[@johnjaso385]

@@jd7089 According to your parents who didn’t abort you.

[@benhunter8551]

@@jd7089 Sane people.

[@lisakaz35]

The life trying (and potentially failing) to grow a baby matters. The life of the child who will lose his/her mother if abortion doesn't occur also matters.

[@TTTristan1]

@@benhunter8551 Is it because the life is potentially going to be a person one day, or do you think a fertilized cell is just magically a person and has that value now? Because there's pretty decent objections to both. If a fertilized cell matters because of the potential life of a person, then we should be combining every cell and sperm possible, as that's billions of humans potential humans we're letting slip away by doing nothing. If the cell just is a person somehow, or has the same value as a thinking feeling human being, then you'll need to explain why.

[@Ncaa67]

You know, there is a tell when most people lie. It’s in there voice and how quickly they speak. It’s something like going from no lisp to a very slight lisp. If you’re an aware parent you know what I mean.Then you get the rapid fire words when they think you’re getting sucked in or they want to be able to say they told you something but they rattled it out so quickly you missed it. Listen to the lawyer, he just sounds like he thinks he’s smart but he’s lost it because justice Sonia knows the tell.

[@vickilindberg6336]

There's no reasonable comparison between diabetes which is not a voluntary condition vs pregnancy which is caused by a specific action of the person. Ridiculous

[@JescaML]

It is hereditary in some like mine but you can’t tell in the womb if a child has it or not. Shes ridiculous.

[@thomasjones4570]

Umm, there is a type of diabetes(the majority of people have it) that comes from a piss poor eating habit...mind you that I am pro choice but am sick of seeing really BAD arguments from both sides.

[@JasmineLaura]

If someone ate horribly for the majority of their lives, had chances to make changes and didn’t became pre diabetic and continued the same behaviors until the point they required insulin THEN is it a reasonable comparison for you? 🤔 Anyways, Medically accepted standard of care for both medical conditions is where the comparison is being made. Nobody was comparing whether it’s “voluntary”.

[@grey5751]

How on earth have you not heard of non-hereditary diabetes? This is America, it's kind of a big deal..

[@firefalcoln]

Have you never heard of pregnancy from rape? Also consenting to sex isn’t volunteering to become pregnant. Just like how consenting to get in a car isn’t volunteering to get into a car accident. Obviously there are risks to pregnancy from sex and car accidents from riding around in cars. But consenting to some activity with possibly negative consequences isn’t consenting to those consequences, but the risk of those possible consequences.

[@samturnerii6062]

She is being combative and refusing to let him answer. Why?

[@debbielawson4198]

He is being obtuse.

[@crispinfornoff206]

Because she’s a leftist. Duh.

[@crispinfornoff206]

@@debbielawson4198 Stop Murdering children.

[@jd7089]

@@crispinfornoff206So who decided that abortion is murder and why is that persons opinion absolute ❓❓❓

[@grey5751]

@@jd7089 old book that claims a guy in space did a universe. ya can't reason with cultists, man.

[@Jimbojoebob]

Has Sotamayor ever read the 10th Amendment? I doubt it.

[@paulmorrow5905]

have you

[@HexKitty]

@@paulmorrow5905 Amendment X - "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

[@unbreakable7633]

Have you ever read the 9th Amendment? James Madison included that one because we have liberty and not a list of rights.

[@sarahgaucher4370]

Have you read the supremacy clause? Lol

[@grey5751]

Probably, since she's specifically citing federal legislation?

[@cmvamerica9011]

I hate abortion; but who’s body is it, who’s soul is it, who’s decision should it be? Strange how this became an issue, when we realized that our fertility rate, is not providing enough workers for the future; a country needs young workers to pay taxes.😂

[@ronmoore6598]

"but who’s body is it," The Child's obviously.

[@Frug4l]

God

[@geraldburns2328]

I was just about to say the same thing. They need that taxpayer to grow up and be robbed by government

[@davenixon8939]

Very impressed with the push back from SCOTUS from what I just heard.

[@MatthewRogerson-wk3bd]

Number one of the Hippocratic oath....Do no harm.... Ending the life of viable human beings is pure evil. Almost as evil as the narcissistic woman who thinks she owns somebody else's life

[@lisakaz35]

That isn't what is happening. We're talking about Kate Cox being sentenced to death or infertility because men bar her doctor from terminating her non-viable pregnancy. What about the viable life of a child impregnated by rape?

[@kelleylea5]

⁠@@lisakaz35if the baby is non viable, it’s not going to live, that would not be murder. In the case of rape, if the baby is viable and the mother can tolerate the pregnancy and birth, the child should be born. The human life in the womb is not culpable for the rape and should be allowed to live. Yes, that’s tough on the victim, but killing a person is tough too. The crime of rape should carry the same consequences as murder.

[@lisakaz35]

@@kelleylea5 And yet the AHs still want to ban abortion procedures even with non-viable fetuses. Their "magical thinking" refuses to admit this can happen. Stop trying to gaslight. This is exactly what is happening. It's not the doctors, it's not about rationality. It's about zealots who don't give a crap if a woman loses her fertility or her life.

[@garrettwill1220]

@@lisakaz35 Kate Cox has not been sentenced to death? Where did you read this?

[@expendable6595]

Trump court so we only have Trump to thank for all the misfits and crazy laws being put in place.

[@JoJordan-re4jz]

Sotomayor appointed by Obama.

[@gailwendtland5970]

Stop blaming Trump for everything you don't agree with. Good grief.....

[@williammurray1341]

Personal use of insulin seldom causes harm to an innocent.

[@GChannelist]

and medically necessary abortions saves lives. which is the point

[@ScottEgan69]

@@GChannelist well, not the aborted babies' lives. But I get your point.

[@Dar123abc]

Abortion takes lives.

[@user-kh6xu3bc3b]

​@@GChannelistbut there using abortion like birth control witch is wrong

[@texrifleman]

To kill babies?

[@thomascunningham3279]

This justice isn't to bright

[@unbreakable7633]

None of them are worth a damn. All 9 just political hacks, ideologues appointed for their politics and not their knowledge of law or dedication to the Constitution. Worst Supreme Court in our history. Last real judge we had on that Court was David Souter.

[@Abacab965]

LoL , another diversity position needed filling

[@sarahgaucher4370]

@@Abacab965racist, she’s completely qualified to be on SCOTUS.

[@jd7089]

@@Abacab965Oh please. This Justice is definitely qualified. Thank God we done away with the only qualification needed to be A Supreme Court Justice is to be white and male..

[@katieevans6614]

The grammatical error makes your slam against the Justice's intelligence hysterical!

[@landontesar3070]

Citizenship at conception!

[@mwhite1474]

Now she's a medical expert. Sotomayor has poor listening skills. She's an activist who is showboating and politicizing the bench.

[@randyhenderson6166]

By far the most dim-witted justice on the Court.

[@benhunter8551]

No, the one who doesn't know what a woman is wins that title.

[@Deborah-er8zr]

This woman is terrible😮

[@Fernysm]

Only to uniformed rural simpletons.

[@benhunter8551]

@@Fernysm What is a woman?

[@Fernysm]

@@benhunter8551 A type of person of that you probably beat on because you peaked in high school and know it.

[@Revddt]

im born and raised in boise idaho and this is ALL CRAP!... thank DJT AND REP PARTY for ALL THIS

[@jasonc4641]

For what? Democrats had opportunities to codify Roe v Wade but never did. Trump did nothing from preventing it to become a law. It is now a state decision

[@stevemt3238]

Sotomayor is falsely comparing apples and oranges.

[@dannibble]

No

[@Carvin0]

Thank you for this. This gives me a lot more respect for Sotomayor than I had before.

[@kelleylea5]

It’s all immaterial. There is only one thing that stands out we are killing a person to get out of responsibility. The percentage of abortions that are done not because of health issues or rape is so much bigger. If a woman is miscarrying then the baby is already probably not going to make it, so that’s one of the dumbest reasons to allow abortion when the baby is healthy and so is the mother. Women, you’re right your body is yours to make decisions over, but when you have sex with a man and get pregnant, two more people are involved. The man has responsibility, and the woman has responsibility, and the new life has the right to be born.

[@georgehuston9681]

Roe versus Wade Should never have been a Federal law of Rights. Because its taking the life, Latin for Fetus means BABY. No different than a Person taking the Life of another. Pretty simple to understand. The question pretains to When does a Doctor believe that the Mother is at risk AND believes the baby can be saved and survive outside the womb? If the baby in early stages of growth can not be saved due to whatever causing the mother to possibly die, long before the baby could be considered a premature of 24 weeks have a fifty percent survival rate which is still better than killing and given at least a shot at life. I have to admit that I do not have all information about why cant a baby be saved but it also depends of circumstances and time! But for a state not to agree with the abortion is questionable. Im a Christian with strong beliefs in Life comes first. But say that a woman is pregnant and is in a accident. Okay two scenarios. One, saving the Woman first might kill the baby, if tnere was no way to extract the baby at the time or the mother dies and removal of the baby is impossible. But only if there a chance but not for PERSONAL OR FINANCIAL REASONS a baby should never be aborted!!

[@Struthio_Camelus]

What if the patient is not a Christian?

[@MatyasArby]

Diabetic here, didn't get it from getting it on. Bad, dishonest comparison.

[@Jmamelia]

You missed the point chap

[@athiestjesus8133]

You could have got it from eating too much sugar though. Fair comparison IMO

[@susanpendell4215]

Same here. Too much sugar, too many carbs, not sex.

[@tranquillady1688]

Type 2 is due to either genetics or poor diet, Type one is due to a pancreas not producing any insulin and has nothing to do with diet or nutrition.

[@tomcoates4022]

Sotomayor is brilliant

[@ASDFUIL]

said no one ever

[@Abacab965]

Sotomayor fell off the banana boat right into a diversity position that needed filling, nothing brilliant between her ears or your's

[@tadeuszczernia5422]

So is Joe Biden.

[@jacobgates1986]

​@@Abacab965 Wow your pretty racist 😂.

[@danmadison5087]

@@jacobgates1986 you already spent your race care. #declined

[@franklinj1038]

She's Total Toxicity

[@JETablet_]

This is ridiculous and its not the first time she's demonstrated a lack of depth in simple reasoning. I wouldn't leave my child with her and a source of ignition within a mile. I don't believe that the justices are supposed to represent the full spectrum of people, as is The House. So why drag an anchor?

[@a.w.6288]

What are you really saying with this comment, "I don't believe that the justices are supposed to represent the full spectrum of people, as is the House." ?

[@Fernysm]

A lot of words to make a ridiculous point. The SC is not supposed to be representing the people, they're supposed to uphold and interpret law. You guys get me so tired with this schoolyard pick sides BS. Seriously, grow up.

[@JETablet_]

@@a.w.6288 She has a habit of reasoning like a child. The SCOTUS is way too important to tolerate since habitual. They are supposed to be wise whereas if it was representative of the people, we would expect some to not be wise. Is that more clear? Does it make sense?

[@JETablet_]

@@Fernysm Replying to me? Your second sentence makes it clear that you inverted what I was saying and you're making my exact point - violent agreement. Read my comment again?

[@Fernysm]

@JETablet_ Firstly, my apologies. I misunderstood how your first point was connected to the second. I still dont because you make the assumption she's only there due to her race. And again, excuse me if I'm wrong. But with all due respect, you cannot minimize the achievement and knowledge of Sotomayor. She was an assistant DA back in 1979.. She had a district Court that she managed starting 1991. She then was voted to Appeals for second circuit 1997. main point being she has more Court and litigation experience than both of the White justices that came after her. So how exactly is she an "anchor." Her points in the video are valid. The abortion laws are not supported by medical science, its more morally based decision making with a loud Christian contingent. Compare that to Amy Coney Barret who only did a clerkship for Scalia and was an assistant law professor at Notre Dame, and just 3 years of actually managing a Court room in 2017. Sotomayor's first Court appointment was in 1991. You tell me who's the anchor or legacy hire there?

[@Jami-vm1zv]

Ridiculous! Who listens to anything she says anymore? 🙄

[@branchingoutnurseries4403]

she can guarantee a person dying with her idea versus the states saving 2 lives

[@unbreakable7633]

The State didn't save anybody. Government doesn't save lives.

[@GChannelist]

struggling to understand her words is a personal problem

[@JescaML]

She’s a joke. Only medical emergencies should be allowed.

[@Jmamelia]

Cee you next Tuesday

[@janedough6575]

What a ridiculous comparison, one is completely preventable and the other no one has control over getting.

[@hawknives]

Thow shall NOT murder! Christ is the Final Judge, who is able to cast your soul into hell, forever. all involved with promoting murder are guilty. Christ bless!

[@user-hu7oh5fx1p]

Abortion is murder but I agree with her about the insulin!

[@jd7089]

Well that’s your opinion. I don’t think it’s murder…

[@user-hu7oh5fx1p]

@@jd7089 Yes, it's my "opinion" that killing a human baby with premeditation is murder.

[@geraldburns2328]

Every patient is different. The doctor knows what the patient needs. The state and even the federal government doesnt know jack squat.

[@thomasjones4570]

FYI, doctors are the prime movers behind the current opioid crisis and many are legal drug dealers for the "health industry". Not exact the saints you are attempting to make them out to be for this topic.

[@davidanalyst671]

the state and federal government don't allow you to kill children. You don't get to define when a child is alive and receives constitutional rights. Neither does its mother, because a mother can define constitutional rights a month after birth, and still commit murder.

[@geraldburns2328]

@@davidanalyst671 if people don't like or want an abortion , it's very simple. Do not have one. If a doctor says a woman needs to have one , she should be able to get it done.

[@itszkk]

​@@davidanalyst671 Well a line has to be drawn at some point. Let's take this a logical step further. If 2 non-citizens are on US soil and conceive, is that unborn child a US citizen or not?

[@a.w.6288]

@@davidanalyst671 please desist perpetrating the misinformation. Nobody is killing children. The majority of abortions take place before viability of the fetus. If an abortion has to occur after the point of viability of the fetus, something has gone drastically wrong and/or there’s a danger to the life of the mother. My understanding is this Idaho case has been brought because a a person showed up in an ER having a miscarriage and was denied the care they needed because of these extreme laws. And even if there is a supposed carve out for the life of the mother, the problem is the loss have a chilling effect on the medical profession and people don’t want to lose their license or be persecuted in a court of law. A person who is losing a pregnancy should not have to be at death’s door in order to get the medical care that they need. And what if by waiting to give the care that’s needed, a person ends up not being able to have children in the future? What about that? ‘Cause that’s also a thing.