REACTION! 🎉 MAX WEBSTER The Party

REACTION! MAX WEBSTER The Party
Max Webster Reaction
Kim Mitchell Reaction
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[@bretttiesmaki981]

"We're just musicians, here to thin the thickness of your skin," possibly the best line ever penned by lyricist Pye Dubois (who also co-wrote Tom Sawyer with Neal Peart).

[@wiseonelol25]

A tremendous guitar player!!! And a great singer!!!!

[@bramcurtis6900]

I saw Kim 5 times. Never saw Max which I regret. But I saw Kim New Years eve in Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto and they played this. Like 14000 ppl there. When it got to "Here's Lucy...", 14000 ppl spoke the whole set of words in perfect unison. Every single word. Simply one of the most incredible concert moments of my life.

[@stephenwalton8507]

I'm glad you liked them. A cool Max Webster feature to do might be their moon songs. The first 4 albums all have a song on them with "moon" in the title. They're all pretty hard rockers, except "Moon Voices" which is a proggy instrumental.

[@stevemunro2018]

I never learned why Max split up. In the liner notes to Rush's "Exit...Stage Left" album (1981) there is the line "RIP Max Webster"

[@stephenwalton8507]

I've been following them since the 70s and I would say they ended from lack of record company support for them to do a headlining tour. They had this imsge as "Rush's little brother" because of their close relationship, and were on the ssme label, and I think the label was more interested in promoting Rush.Terry Watkinson quit before the "Uniersal Juveniles" tour, so Kim did that tour with a band of hired guns. I heard him say he folded up the Max tent after opening a show for Rush in K.C. (or somewhere like that) on the "Moving Pictures" tour. Max Webster didn't so much break up as die a slow death from neglect.

[@stevemunro2018]

@@stephenwalton8507 Thanks for the insight, Stephen.

[@JohnnyMegabyteCanada]

the "featuring Kim Mitchell" was added after Max Webster disbanded. Kim has a great following in Canada, and plays some MW tunes, too.

[@dsomerville5293]

Check out Astonish Me, Let Go of the Line for two great Terry Watkinson mostly written songs. You are right he is an amazing key player like Jon Lord was with Deep Purple. The keys with Kim's amazing guitar work top notch. Actually bass and drummer were great too. Terry Brown fingers all over Max sound arrangements early on.

[@kennygeorge4454]

Max Webster is COOL !!! I saw them 3 times in Concert, all with Rush. I bought all their albums after seeing them, now one of My favorite bands.

[@sid7088]

I'm pretty sure the original Max albums didn't say featuring Kim Mitchell. That might be just since Kim had a little commercial success.

[@WeDanceWestie]

Max Webster appeared on Anthem Records an independent label formed by Ray Danniels, Rush were directors of the label, so you have Terry Brown producing. Still a nasty day here in Southern Ontario so I’m chilling out and watching Justin. 😊

[@IMheady]

Hands down my favorite Canadian band !

[@myblissjewelry]

Max Webster was amazing. Was so sad when they disbanded but Kim’s Universal Juveniles album is pretty awesome in its own way (you did battlescar from that album). Loving this trip down memory lane though. Keep the Webster coming!

[@kennygeorge4454]

You got to check out High Class and Borrowed Shoes album. Personally it's my favorite album by Max.

[@dostfez]

Kim's solo stuff was far more radio orientated. Some was quite good but way more mainstream. Bills have to be paid. MW really was Zappa Canadian but more accessible to your average listener imo. An amazing band that never got their due even though RUSH was a big supporter and took them on many tours. To me their stuff is an amazing fusion of prog/rock/pop/ that is miles above your ordinary fare.

[@miguelbotelho2613]

One thing I really love about Max Webster’s music is the production, it has this quiet quality to the mix, not sure how else to put but it’s like relaxing almost. Though it was hard edge music for sure. I think most 70s mixes were like that,

[@dannschroeder694]

We're all here to be reckless!

[@oddbjrnbendiksen4771]

The original vinyl releases doesn't have "featuring Kim Mitchell". Must be some later 80's or 90's cd remasters after going solo.

[@kiiiust]

Sheehan let it be known that DLR covered a Kim Mitchell song called Kids in Action that was to be released on Eat 'Em and Smile. It's apparently sitting in the vault somewhere.

[@DonaldHolben]

Kim's Legato is killer!

[@markjohnson4217]

That additional claim on the jacket about featuring Kim was only the subsequent releases. Maybe to boost sleeper sales? Not sure. As for the band, it seems like they imploded after Terry Watkinson left, which was 1979. I think the bassist quit as well, my guess is that they were still struggling financially and the pressure to continue became too much. But they still had a great album left in them, 'Universal Juveniles' released in 1980, was a heavier stadium rock sound and it did very well in fact. They were JUST starting to break into America and the UK with a little help from Rush, who had Max Webster open for them on their 1980 tour, when for personal reasons, Kim suddenly had to stop. Rumors of a nervous breakdown, or some private trauma seemed to be the official reasons. About four years later Kim reappeared with his debut solo album which was actually not bad. Us Max fans were not deterred, it was definitely 80s production, the songs were catchy, but there were more than a few winks and nods to the old 'Max-machine' on the album. With each release, it seemed like Kim lost his way somewhat, it was slick musicianship and slick production but to me it had too much of that 'hair and spandex' vibe for me. It is hard to please both musicians and college football fans at the same time, Lol. We ALL miss Max...

[@JohnnyMegabyteCanada]

I went to a small bar in the east burbs of Toronto (Scarborough), in December 2011, where an un-named band was playing for $10 cover. Ended up being another Canadian Icon Frank Soda on guitar, with Mike Tilka on bass and Terry Watkinson on keys. Phenomenal evening. Lots of Rock bar band fave tunes / mostly 70's, with some Max Webster. Frank Soda is a better singer and equally talented on guitar as Kim Mitchell. It was like being at a Max Webster show.

[@stephenwalton8507]

Cool. Frank Soda. I have not heard that name in decades. I think I may have one of his albums on vinyl somewhere in a box I have not opened in decades. But yeah. Saw him a few times in my youth in Ontariario.

[@fasteddie777666]

I never heard of Billy Sheehan ever in the band Max Webster......I just looked it up and says past members, Billy Sheehan -1977, but without an explanation of when and where he was in the band...I know this band and this was a first time hearing that for me..... WOW !!!!.....Kim must have talked about that when he was doing radio in Toronto !!!....but I seen it on Wikipedia, so who knows !!!

[@debbieplato5107]

I believe someone explained the issues with Max Webster in a comment. The record label wasn't being helpful to the band and Kim Mitchell was the last one to leave out of the original members. He had a much more successful solo career and became popular so the record company started to put his name on the Max Webster albums . I am pretty sure that is what the other person said.

[@droopyofthenorthwestmounted]

Terry Watkinson's keyboards are such a big part of the Max sound and sorely missed on Kim's solo work.

[@geddylee501]

Great guitar skills wow

[@c3po2112]

Kim Mitchell's solo career was much more successful (producing more radio friendly hits) so his name was put on the Max albums later to sell those albums to a larger audience.

[@donwest5387]

"Max Webster" disbanded and Kim went on to be the front man for his own band. "Patio lanterns"

[@donnelson6694]

Yes. Kim's solo stuff was definitely more mainstream. This song is nice and quirky. Much more interesting overall.

[@uncletom618]

yes, the label wanted to squeeze more juice from Max’s lemon adding “featuring Kim Mitchell “, as solo Kim was a bit more successful than Max, and might draw more fans to the Max stuff.Terry Watkinson is/was an art professor at University of Toronto

[@jaycameronford]

They added "featuring Kim Mitchell" to albums after he became famous during his solo career. That wasn't on any albums when they were originally released. None of mine have it. You're right, Max Webster is much better than his solo material.

[@johnandrews3568]

Kim had a some staffing changes over the years, rumours were that he was difficult to work with. Dunno... fwiw Terry Watkinson became a medical illustrator and taught it at the University of Toronto while also pursuing a modest art career. He did most if not all the band's album covers iirc.

[@danielwolski873]

Kim Mitchell solo stuff is more mainstream but he did some Max Webster type songs as a solo artist like a song I Am A Wild Party for example. Kim Mitchell solo artist was much more successful than Max Webster. His solo stuff is still played regularly on classic rock radio here in Canada while hearing Max Webster on the radio is a rare occurrence these days.

[@cachockey]

Try "Beyond the Moon "

[@ryancraig2795]

I don't know, but Kim sold a lot of records and played a lot of shows in Canada as a solo act. More commercial sound. A guy's got to make a living, too.

[@spiffymick7073]

It was a combination of feeling like the label wasn't supporting them, and burnout coupled with the fact that they were not breaking through in the US. The album covers did not originally have featuring Kim Mitchell on them. These albums were re-released under a new record label and at that time they put that on there because Kim Mitchell had had some success so they were hoping to draw additional sales from the Kim Mitchell audience or the fact that he was a known entity

[@cms3052]

FUN FACT - On Rush's Spirit of Radio, the crowd you hear cheering after the lyrics "Concert Halls" was recorded during a Max Webster concert. While producing Spirit of Radio, Terry brown got in contact with the Webster camp asking if they had a recording of a crowd he could borrow. This came right out of a Kim Mitchell interview he did about 8 years ago. You know though, Webster's last album before they broke up (A Million Vacations) is the least exciting of all their albums, so the band might have run it's course soon after if they'd stayed together anyways. Webster was a very niche prog rock/pop band, where Kim's solo carreer aimed at a much broaded audience. I think he made the right move as in the early 80's the music scene was changing and prog rock wasn't a big thing any more.

[@uncletom618]

hi Their last album was Universal Juveniles

[@cms3052]

@@uncletom618 My bad. Thank you for the clarification.

[@miguelbotelho2613]

There’s a great video of Kim Mitchell talking about the song Diamonds, Diamonds. On a segment called ‘behind the vinyl ‘

[@WeDanceWestie]

Oh yea! Forgot to mention, love this song, it was amazing live. Westie

[@billwarner213]

It almost sounds "Zappa-esque".

[@gjmarr1]

This is one of my favorite MW tracks. Great stuff. Saw them live in Edmonton a loooong time ago.

[@donwest5387]

"featuring Kim Mitchel" isn't on my original albums. Maybe part of the separation agreement?

[@LonelyRocker]

Love Max. I’m sure it’s been stated here, Max just didn’t make it. In the 70s Canadian bands had to break it in the US to make it. Rush supported Max for many years but the odds were against them. April Wine is another AMAZING Canadian band that couldn’t break it in the US but would have been huge if they’d could. Triumph did make it in the US and sold 10 million records but back then the deck was stacked against Canadian bands.

[@LonelyRocker]

Just looked it up. Max Webster sold a total of 350,000 records total across their whole catalogue. All in Canada. That was not nearly enough to sustain them. And I’m sure that number was a lot less while they were still active.

[@stephenwalton8507]

@@LonelyRocker pretty accurate I'd say. Kim Mitchell has a lot to say about the record company support (or lack thereof) the band got though. They certainly put in the work and logged the miles, a hard touring band.

[@LonelyRocker]

@@stephenwalton8507 Very much agree. Again, Canadian labels had limited resources in those days. Rush wouldn’t have made it either were it not for some grass roots support in the US. Shame. Max was a great band and Kim Mitchell is a ferocious guitar player. But he did have a good solo career and kept the spirit of Max alive.

[@stephenwalton8507]

@@LonelyRocker yes indeed.

[@macdaddyns]

I think you are on to something Justin, his solo stuff seems tamer and perhaps matured compared to the younger Max Webster work. In an interview he mentioned the music scene in Toronto not appreciating a Jazz chord being thrown into a piece. Maybe he sowed his wild oats in Max and then settled down with age?

[@evanswendy9773]

Very Frank Zappa!

[@DonaldHolben]

And Kim is left handed and plays right handed.

[@graciefolden2359]

Canada's Zappa?

[@leddygee1896]

“We’re just musicians, Here to thin the thickness Of your skin” The band just kinda dissolved On it’s own, Kim tried to keep it Together, but ultimately it just Ended… The label also stopped supporting them, that Was the biggest shame of all.

[@clemlowes9417]

Justin, judging by your reactions to Max Webster me thinks you have been enjoying their music even more than RUSH 's music. Am I wrong?

[@JustinPanariello]

Rush has a much larger and deeper catalog. Also they are different bands, I wouldn't compare at all.

[@clemlowes9417]

@@JustinPanariello no question Rush's catalog is larder and deeper, not really about comparing the two catalogues but more about Max Webster's music being more in your wheelhouse?

[@JustinPanariello]

:shrugs: yeah idk. I just don't know i'd characterize it like that. You could say Permanent Waves or Signals is in my wheelhouse... they are Fire. I like all kinds of music and all kinds of bands. I'm not married to any though. Theres a ton of music I used to be crazy about and love and listen to all the time constantly but haven't heard in many years. Guarantee if I put them back on though I can sing with them entirely... Like any Stevie Wonder record or Marvin Gaye or Al Green.. Wayne Shorter, Herbie, Miles, etc.

[@clemlowes9417]

@@JustinPanariello got it.👍

[@Nanooky]

Nope. Kim is a Canadian legend with or without Max.

[@lesblatnyak5947]

If I remember correctly the suits had a lot to do with their split. Sadly the business not the fans ruined far too many bands.

[@SonicProfessor_a.k.a._T._Andra]

Billy Sheehan was NEVER "in" MAX WEBSTER. By the time that Max Webster broke-up, he hadn't left TALAS, yet! It's an impossibility! ...that piece of information is, either: a complete error (and internet rumor-which we have a severe GLUT of, as-it-is!!!!😡); an obfuscation, or misappropriation and mutation ( 🤷🤷) of some, other, weird bit of, inaccurate (but: which has -subsequently- begun to be repeated -as all stupidities (despicably), now (APPARENTLY!🙄🙄🤦), ARE!) info.; a purposeful lie, or: a possible pseudo-"factoid," where: Sheehan MAY have (in the "recent" past (over the past 15-20 years, let's say), POSSIBLY, gigged with Kim Mitchell, or joined his band on-stage🤷, at SOME point, somewhere 🤷🤷...and, maybe, they, even, did a Max Webster song (or three🤷‍♀) ...Or they played a festival together. and he called-up others (maybe McCracken was there, or -although I don't think he does much playing anymore-I don't, ACTUALLY, know!-: Terry Watkinson, maybe🤷🤷🤷) ...and, then, POSSIBLY, Billy joined them, becasue Dave Myles wasn't around or Kim's bassist was playing another instrument on the song -I don't know!🤦🤷 --or, possibly, even: they did a live "Battlescar" cover and had another set of musicians playing Rush's parts (Sheehan could cover Ged's bass-Sure!) ... WHO knows!? ...but, again: that would be a live, special, "one-off (or... "a 2-off," maybe🙄) thing [ANY and ALL of these WOULD be!😡] and WOULD NOT make/qualify ANY of the musicians who were on-stage for that,as (somehow) "members of Max Webster," by any means, or in ANY manner, whatsoever!!!!😡😡😡😡 It does not work that way. that is ludicrous and it is a misstatement/lie if anyone (idiotically and self-aggrandizingly!) describes a guest appearance on-stage as 'amemebershjip"(evben PARTIAL) "in" a, particular, band! 😡😡😡😡😡😡 It is NOT and never was, or CAN be!😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡💥💥💥💥💥😡😡 ...SO: unless you can "fill-out the info." and define and prove a time-of-occurrence (and who SAYS that "he was in it" (besides Billy himself!))??? ...Outside of (something like) THAT??: it doesn't count and it isn't true. ⚡⚡⚡⚡ Drop it (forever)!

[@jeffstorm4351]

Why so much Max Webster??

[@JustinPanariello]

???? These have been donation request videos. Also why not?!

[@ZenMonkey1138]

as per the Max Webster Wikipedia entry... it would seem it was the other band members that quit on Kim