A Surprising Match? Wandering DP & Blackmagic Design - Pyxis Approval

[@DaneBrammage]

Maybe people will finally recognize the insane value of the 6kFF & Pix. For everything it lacks the image quality is freaking amazing. I’m glad I got one early 😊.

[@chiokehart-kelly3481]

I'm pretty sure this is why RED dropped their Komodo prices.

[@ozzythemighty2767]

Red is liquidating & getting ready for next year A.I model.

[@JustinPhillip]

🥲🤣 i literally just saw that! $1,000 discount!

[@JustinPhillip]

Say whaaaa 😅

[@HowImaFan-eh3rc]

@@JustinPhillip 3k price drop on the X !

[@Artfulscience1]

Jesus Christ you’re right…I had no idea!

[@jmac2050]

it looks like the pocket 6k , noise and all. not a bad image, but that's what it looks like, the take away, learn how to light a scene is more important than a repackaged camera

[@JustinPhillip]

Agree

[@danabeldp]

Ursa Mini 12k owner here and I am happy to say I will be purchasing a Pyxis. Will most likely act as a B cam with the possibility of taking the place of the Ursa

[@kinoromantic]

I have 12K as well and I bought BMPCC6K as my b cam - s35 with s35

[@benoitpiret9065]

Honestly ARRI is really for high prod pros. It’s fully weather sealed. It’s made to run in any place any weather all the time and never get in the way. The Pyxis or the URSA Cine 12k can’t touch that. But they are perfect for every other use case.

[@mrclarky]

Yeah he never said it would replace the Mini LF, in fact he actually said it would more likely just replace his optical viewfinder which in itself costs more than the pixis 😂

[@JustinPhillip]

🤣

[@willemalexander8596]

Still using your 28-70 tokina ?

[@JustinPhillip]

No it broke in half a few years ago! 😆

[@dareallyst]

Pre-ordered when it was announced and just patiently waiting for it… after seeing Patricks vids and the new monitor, i can’t wait to finally get it!

[@JustinPhillip]

Lot of people getting theirs!

[@dareallyst]

@@JustinPhillip yeah I’ve seen a couple of unboxings popping up today. I ordered the L Mount as well so hopefully I’ll get mine soon, fingers crossed! 🤞🏾

[@PerroneFord]

So here's my question. Apple and Avid both derived their premium codec from the same FREE source. Both come from the same DCT based codec scheme. Apple of course did what Apple does and locked theirs down to Final Cut Pro only for years (even excluding their own Final Cut Express), while Avid made DNxHD free to anyone and everyone. So why aren't Blackmagic putting DNxHR into every camera? It works the same, it cuts the same, and as a bonus, it doesn't have the stupid gamma shift ProRes does when going between Mac and PC. DNxHR will drop into any editor that accepts ProRes, even Final Cut. It can carry the same metadata, have the same bit rates, have the same bit depths. At hand off you can even tell your clients it's ProRes by another name if that makes it easier for them. I can't think of a single reason why that codec isn't in every camera and recording device that offers ProRes or would LIKE to offer ProRes but can't. I kind of panned the Pyxis when it was announced because it felt half baked to me and didn't have some things I really wanted. I've started to warm to it a bit in the past month because I have an upcoming project in early 2025 that it would be good for. We'll see. The codec isn't that big a deal to me because I do all narrative work and would be shooting RAW anyway. But the lack of interchangeable mounts is a REAL bummer for me. I WANT those locking mounts but if I get the L-Mount I lose them. It seems like the simplest of things. I don't care about internal NDs, I can even get around the silly 1 XLR input ON THE FRONT. I don't want a flippy screen but would have preferred the screen be on the 1AC side and not next to my ear when I'm on shoulder rig. The battery choice is also silly. An interchangeable V-Mount, Gold Mount, or B-Mount plate would have been trivial to do and would solve a lot of problems. But anyway, we'll see how the camera is received. Hopefully, they sell well.

[@JustinPhillip]

Hey! Thats a really good point about the DNxHR…maybe they will do that. Someone said there’s rumours about the codec thing is whats slowing down the delivery 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@PerroneFord]

@@JustinPhillip something I just noticed. I looked up the codecs for the BMCC 6K Pro, and it lists all the ProRes 422 codecs. So clearly they CAN put the codec in cameras.

[@retlwiz]

Patrick was very smart because he just said he didn’t have to change his way of working then he said he could use it instead of a DOP viewfinder. He didn’t actually review the camera at all - it was a paid endorsement, as simple as that. He is back on You Tube because it’s doing well financially too. The guy has an impressive amount of output. I downloaded those clips and found the colours to be the same as previous BRAW footage and not, in my opinion, anywhere near the level of Arri. I don’t know about the true DR of the camera either - I do know those clips weren’t easy to grade, but that’s mostly because it’s really hard to choose the right CST, which is because there are way too many options with BM. I ended up doing a grade in ACES. I agree we need to see the night-time BRAW clip too.

[@retlwiz]

By the way, Patrick’s current You Tube material is recycling his Patreon material from years back in condensed form, with a new little intro, so it’s not new material, just a new income stream. Nothing wrong with it - but it is what it is.

[@andynonimuss6298]

Yep, backordered my Pyxis L-mount on April 21st; still waiting... he he. I agree though, if you didn't preorder this camera you could be waiting a very long time to get one. I think the new Pyxis Control Monitor helps change everyone's minds about the modularity and flexibility of this camera. I see the Pyxis as my introductory camera into the world of cinematography. I'm excited to be investing in the Pyxis ecosystem! And I know it will be a huge success. By the way, one codec is not a big deal. You can export ProRes from Fusion Studio with the Saver node. Your DaVinci Studio license works with Fusion Studio for free.

[@gopaladas]

It would be AMAZING to have YOU review the pyxis!

[@JustinPhillip]

😆

[@guguemichaels]

Me personally, having shot over 8 feature films, I got rid of my Red Dragon for the OG Ursa, when it first came out. I have not shot a single frame of film, commercial or music video on anything else since then. Only Blackmagic cameras, since. I'm hooked on Blackmagic 's images. From 20-24, I've shot 4 films on Ursa Mini Pro G2 and the original Pocket 6K. So, most definitely, will be picking up the Pyxis and the new monitor BMD just announced ( if it everv comes out). Also, working DPs don't listen to all the noise from wedding shooters and content creators, constantly complaining about the Pyxis.🙄🤷🏾‍♂ Anyway, brother, nice one, I enjoyed watching you. You have passion for what you do. Respect 👍🏾💯

[@JustinPhillip]

awesome! thank you! I saw that monitor announcement as well, looks very tempting!

[@unclejezza]

Quality video mate - bang on

[@JustinPhillip]

Thanks!

[@f0t0b0y]

I’m canceling my C80 pre-order, with this camera, I can clearly shoot beautiful bodies of work. 😜 looks like I will continue to use my prehistoric 2014 FS7 with sub $600 FD glass. Although I might be upgrading to the FS7 mark two, seen a couple going for $900 on eBay.

[@JustinPhillip]

Yeah those are super cheap right now

[@_burd]

Once BMD's small form factor cameras move to full RGBWW sensors.. I think it's going to be pretty difficult to ignore their camera line.

[@submariner1348]

BM will sell tons of units of the Pyxis, a brilliant move from them. Nothing else beats it for the price. On top you get the worlds best all in one Post software Resolve Studio with the camera for free! The complaining about BM Raw is pointless, everyone who buys this camera wants the shoot Raw and understands the ratios and more than likely uses Resolve anyway. L Mount lenses are incredible with more options becoming available by the day, including the new Sigma 28-105. RED is finally becoming redundant, they’ve lasted a lot longer than most predicted but their time is up. ARRI will need to innovate as will Sony if they want to keep their pricing high. For me BM and Panasonic understand the independent market far better than the others.

[@JustinPhillip]

👌🏼

[@ReC86661]

the problem with blackmagics fullframe series is that the sensor read out speed is so high that it makes simple static movements look jittery as can be seen clearly in the video they released.

[@JustinPhillip]

😳

[@AhmadAlmulla-f2c]

Hey,I watched your original sigma FP video many years back but I brought recently and I must say it really is an amazing cinema camera, thank you so much

[@JustinPhillip]

Yupp thats a nice image as well, if you treat it right

[@chicobraz4335]

What the heck happened to the cine 12k and 17k?

[@JustinPhillip]

Who knows

[@MrJayclas]

Please never stop making these videos!

[@JustinPhillip]

🙏🏼 You got it! 🙌🏼

[@sanluca-eva]

I think we'll have a positve surprise about Pyxis. It have the same 6k ff sensor, but the electronics inside may be differents.😊

[@JustinPhillip]

Lets hope!

[@Horizons_Roses]

The grade in the inside scene is incredible. The level of detail and relight they did on the couch. Impressive !

[@JustinPhillip]

Yea the lighting was really good on that cabin scene. Love the slashes of light on the ground and door frame in the foreground

[@Horizons_Roses]

@@JustinPhillip Hey, I don’t say the lighting isn’t amaizing ‘cause it is but compare the log, the grade you made to the finished version. There a lot going on in post on that couch !

[@parkercreative_au]

@@Horizons_Roses no. It’s mainly lighting. Good DPs get it 99% right in camera

[@Horizons_Roses]

@@parkercreative_au Man, climbed down then download the clip, grade it and come back. The team pulled a great effort and I'm not "ignorant" in this business, thanks. It's ALSO indeed a great grading skills as pushing the couch to that extend is really nice.

[@parkercreative_au]

@@Horizons_Roses lighting did 99% of the work. Argue with yourself all you like.

[@raybailey1651]

Wait I thought the Pyxis had the same sensor as the original 6K. So in essence if he shot the same rigging out 6K Full frame he would have yield same results. Correct me if I am wrong?

[@JustinPhillip]

I dont know if they could have done some shots as easily on the 6K FF because of the form factor

[@danbrockettDOP]

DSP could be different. It's not just sensor and lens, DSP plays a huge part of a look and can be tweaked or tuned by the engineers/designers.

[@KBFilms2]

You can make any camera look good now and days if you know what you’re doing. Non of this camera debate matters anymore. I focus more on lenses and lighting.

[@JustinPhillip]

it is so true tho

[@magic2253711]

Whatever is happening between apple and blackmagic is so strange. You're absolutely right, I wish we didn't need an external recorder for proxies clients can use. Not having prores is a bummer. Also blackmagic is making an Ursa version for the Vision Pro. Such a weird relationship going on.

[@JustinPhillip]

Whaaa??? So weird

[@magic2253711]

@@JustinPhillip Very. Google Blackmagic Vision Pro and you'll see the announcement on blackmagics website. So to be fighting over prores licensing is so silly. Not to mention the collab for the vision pro will probably lead to braw being edited inside Final Cut is just wild.

[@JADURCA]

Thanks for making this video. I think that Black magic RAW is ok, if it was me I just process the files as an intermediate format to send to the client and call it for a day.

[@JustinPhillip]

that is true, but sometimes they want the hand-off right then & there at wrap

[@JacobdelaRosa]

You aint lying my guy. By the time production catches up with demand they'll be a new camera/price drop or something lol

[@theothermarkwilliams]

Thanks for this, @JustinPhillip! It’ll be interesting to see what happens with BMD’s lineup. I bought a 6kFF when they were on sale (my first BM camera), and while I truly love the image quality, I’ve found on every paying job over the past 3+ months when I’ve tried to incorporate the 6kFF into the workflow, I’ve ended up using a C70 instead. Not b/c of image quality (though IMO the C70 is still excellent there), but b/c of the versatility. Codecs, internal NDs, batteries, etc, etc. The Pyxis solves the battery issue, but not the codecs or ND issues. I don’t know, we’ll have to see. I feel like with every camera they release, BMD gets closer and closer, but then they remove something: ProRes and/or a flippy screen. Ugh. I want them to succeed.

[@JustinPhillip]

I hear that! Yes C70 or FX6 i do think are still the work horses

[@jeansebastienleger]

I agree about the ND, but not about the codecs...Braw is a dream in post prod (it can run smoothly even on a Macbook Air M1)..

[@theothermarkwilliams]

@ but BRAW doesn’t work in Final Cut, so if you’re editing there, you end up having to transcode. If the 6kFF and Pyxis could shoot ProRes (or if Apple and BMD could come to an agreement with BRAW in FCP), it might be a different story.

[@jeansebastienleger]

@@theothermarkwilliams ProresRaw doesn't work in Davinci, but that doesn't make it a bad codec 😅 Blackmagic cameras are designed to be edited in DaVinci Resolve anyway. And you get a free studio license when you get any BM cameras

[@theothermarkwilliams]

@ I’m not saying BRAW is a bad codec - quite the contrary, in fact. It’s excellent in Resolve. I’m saying a camera that only shoots one codec (and especially when that codec is not supported in one of the top 3 most-used NLEs) is less versatile than it would otherwise be if it supported other codecs (like other BM cameras prior to the 6kFF did). That’s all I’m saying.

[@kevinl20082008]

I am a big fan of Patrick's (Wandering DP) low-key lighting. I have seen many new cinematographers tend to light up everything even if it is a night scene, making it look like a soap opera or Bollywood film. When I saw his breakdowns + working with BM PYXIS I was like this is legit glad I had put in an order right after NAB. Then you Dogged PYXIS in your last KZbin... I was like come on Justin 😄 I am not sure if it is true but the delay in that camera is BM software developers are still working on the Devinci Resolve so that it would address the same issue you just mentioned regarding the pro res.

[@JustinPhillip]

Interesting! Are they trying to add a non-raw codec?

[@coastmale]

I see the opposite everyone is doing flat lowkey stuff nowadays im starting to miss Caravaggio

[@Redm0ndFilms]

I understand for some people Prores is a bummer. But with the 12G SDI port, we can always record externally with the video assist or Atamos. For those specific jobs. My two small things are wanting 2 instead of 1 12G SDI and flip out screen. But no big deal and not stoping me from getting and enjoying this camera. 😊

[@JustinPhillip]

Yea dual SDI would have been a nice benefit for sure. But you are correct, time to dust off the old Video Assist!

[@Redm0ndFilms]

@@JustinPhillip you are the one who convinced me to get the video assist just to have a ProRes back up and my own files. And Minolta Rokkor’s which I now have a full set and only one in LA that are EF as you already know. 😉

[@Redm0ndFilms]

@@JustinPhillip I’m curious what your thoughts on the Cine 12K

[@ricardobirnbaum]

Pyxis will help some people make good images, but it is no Arri IMO. Nice cam, though. I feel Patrick's skill is compensating for the camera's deficiencies. Skin tones look strange, motion is meh, highlights are limited... Not trolling, but I don't think the cameras are comparable. Of course, at the price tag, it's quality in a (finally) nicely equiped box.

[@JustinPhillip]

💯

[@MachinaExplorer]

That’s cool n all but for me arri i prefer arri image and build quality as I’ve had BM camera brick on me far too many times

[@Taljon]

It's just the BMCC 6K FF in a new body. The footage 6K FF is fantastic, I don't really suggest shooting past iso 1250iso. I've pushed to 3200, but the noise get's unusable fast. The thing is when you are lighting things well you don't have problems. He just showed that good cinematography tops the camera. Definitely a good way to market though. The thing though is dynamic range is definitely not Komodo X level nor is the image.

[@relaxwithme3266]

“Nor is the image”. I highly disagree (I own both).

[@paravisual]

Buy S5IIX, rig with external recorder and you will have all with the same sensor.:)

[@JustinPhillip]

Same sensor? To me the advantage is the form factor. I am not a fan of mirrorless bodies for narrative work.

[@BilletMedia]

I have a CCFF and a Lumix S5iiX with BM 12G Video Assist and I can confidently tell you that the CCFF still looks better. The colors are more natural and highlight rolloff is nicer. Consequently it looks less video-y.

[@ceenocean]

ARRI, you're the one everyone's targeting.🥀

[@JustinPhillip]

😳

[@YouTube_can_ESAD]

It was Hitler’s Favorite Camera Company… Facts.

[@pikasalsachu]

We'll have to use those monitors that record prores

[@greggh]

Why did they glue the screen to the side? That was a half step. They should have put it on the bottom and made it totally unusable.

[@JustinPhillip]

🤣

[@JustinnLamar]

Game Over.

[@DunkOnDunks]

I cam across the 1st Patrick video and the footage came out fire for that spot he shot. Have to go watch the 2nd video! Im a C70 shooter and I was thinking about upgrading next year or even 2026 . Between this, Canon C400 and Red X price drop they are making it harder to wait! hahaha

[@amronouraldine9481]

Im in the exact same situation😂

[@Artfulscience1]

I pre ordered like the second it became available on BH, the EF version, but I later realized id much rather have the L mount for VND adapters etc. so I canceled and ordered the L mount in early June. Hopefully I get it on time. And I can’t wait to see all these Pyxis haters eat their words when it hits the market LOL

[@JustinPhillip]

😂 i was thinking EF as well just to have that locking mount, but yea thats a bad move. I agree, l mount with a locking ND adapter, more companies will make good ones

[@Artfulscience1]

@@JustinPhillip ya I had EF glass and never thought I’d change then I did an indoor/outdoor event with solid matte box ND’s and wanted to jump off a bridge lol. Never again. Looked for quality VND’s and got the mofage poco which is amazing but requires mirrorless mount! Boom. Went with the new DZO Arles 35mm, gorgeous 👍

[@Artfulscience1]

@@JustinPhillip hopefully getting mine soon. I’m in LA too, keep in touch would love to Collab and see how this compares in image quality to the Komodo!

[@robinprobyn1971]

You can get internal ND,s on an fx6 , not really high budget camera :) , once you use them ,there is no going back , even the high end guys have said this about Venice ( glass filters in the Venice case ) including Pat O I believe and the Burano (electronic like the fx line) . Changing out / cleaning / carrying the pelican box is a pain , having to use a Mattbox , hands down a pain in the arse , especially if no AC , which would be the market for this kit . Camera at this level should absolutely have internal ND , big miss there if they hoping to poach any Sony users , aint going to happen.

[@JustinPhillip]

Tis true

[@danbrockettDOP]

As an FX6 owner, to me the Pyxis is for a completely different user and application. To me, the FX6 is a great video camera that can kind of double for cinema type shooting but I think the color science and look aren't as good as Canon or BMD, especially skin tones, in general. With a lot of post work, the FX6 can be made to look like the Canon and BMD colors, but it's a PITA. I own three Canons and three Fujis and all six cameras have better SOOC colors and skin tones than my FX6. I have a production company and a live company so for live, the SOOC colors are important. The Pyxis is a cinema type camera that could be used as a video camera in a pinch but it lacks the convenience features (AF, E VND, H264 codecs, high ISO) that I would want/need for video camera type shooting. But if one edits in Resolve (I do), has or wants to buy cinema lenses and follow focus, and isn't put out by external ND filters, and knows how to light and lights their work, the Pyxis looks like a pretty cool camera for almost nothing and the new screen looks to up the game considerably. I think the camera will be a hit for BMD. It just all depends on the kinds of shoots you do and how you like to work. In the freelancer space, nobody is going to hire someone with a Pyxis, in LA it's all about the FX6/9. In the production company space or if you have higher end clients who want to shoot things cinema style, I could see the Pyxis becoming pretty desirable. And it'll obviously be the It girl for indie and low budget filmmakers and hobbyists as it's quite a step up from a mirrorless form factor, has SDI, mini XLR in, box format.

[@Burritosarebetterthantacos]

In my area an Fx6 is an automatic hire by production companies. Ive never got hired when mentioning the Blackmagic, they dont even know what it is.

[@TheFaustianMan]

That daylight is so dark. So digital

[@JustinPhillip]

Interesting

[@retroelectrical]

I saw the BM demo of the Pyxis and the colors were utterly horrible. Now, it probably was just a very stange/weird LUT or grade, but I was shocked at how bad it was. I loved the image from the 6K FF though and am looking forward to the 65mm format.

[@randallburgess6393]

Let’s not forget that almost any camera if you light the scene properly does a pretty good job so it doesn’t really take an amazing camera to do a wonderful job if you can light things properly and again this is true just about any sin of a camera even a red a red is pretty awful and low light. It only works well when you light it properly and that’s what they intend. It’s a cinema camera they intend for you to be able to light the scene properly as you would as a professional crew and this new Black Magic camera is just the same, it’s not a gun like the FX three and to be honest it’s only got 13 stops of dynamic range. There’s nothing amazing about this camera. Nothing really bad but nothing earth shattering. I think the FX is better overall and a lot smaller use on a gimbal as well.

[@JustinPhillip]

Definitely valid point. Camera doesnt make the man, i 100% agree. But its the actual statements coming from Patrick that is gonna make the sales of this camera catch wildfire

[@DaneMeale]

You're looking into this way too much. John Brawley is an Australian born DP. Blackmagic is an Australian Company...Get the connection there? Guess where Patrick lives? Yep Western Australia.

[@JustinPhillip]

That is true. But they’ve used other KZbinrs in the past, non-austrailian, Matteo Bertoli, the Make Art Now guy. I think this one was strategic. Thats all im saying

[@stuartswindellcampoy8483]

I was on a short film that will first go to festivals and we shot on the Alexa 35 and the cinema 6k was used as a bcam and let's be honest nobody can tell these days

[@JustinPhillip]

Nice

[@jessfilmdiaries]

I canceled my Pyxis order and got the G2 when it went on sale. I'm still not overly excited about the Pyxis. Hopefully I build enough clientele over the next year to afford an ursa cine

[@charlesbrandt3558]

​ I figure the full frame sensor in a pocket body would work better as a "viewfinder" if the electronics are the same between it and the pyxis.

[@JustinPhillip]

that is true 😆

[@ColinZiemer1]

I’m predicting that the Pyxis will have a price drop to $2,500 within the first 6 months of release

[@MajorTVOriginal]

I guess they will come out one year later with a "Pro"-Version with internal ND

[@JustinPhillip]

Considering they recycled the pocket body five times, i think we’ll see this square body for at least the next coupla years 😆

[@SamA-kl6pi]

This is more a testament to his skills as a do than this mediocre camera. They didn’t need to release images with the camera because they have stock footage of the sensor. It’s a decent camera, maybe if they’re on sale this Christmas, I’ll buy one, but it’s nothing spectacular and actually a little late to the party.

[@dkkeyz8815]

Whaoooooo…. You watch Wandering DP too….. I watch you, and I watch….him….. is he my grandpa, does that make you my father…… I need a walk.

[@JustinPhillip]

🤣🤣🤣

[@GabrielScindian]

I miss CinemaDNG

[@JustinPhillip]

Those files were nice, but MASSIVE

[@Artfulscience1]

As a sigma fp owner, its great for little things, but once you start doing large scale projects its insanely huge and the slimraw workflow for compression becomes so time consuming, and previewing clips w/o an NLE isn’t even possible. Quality wise, unparalleled, workflow wise, a real pain.

[@MrDeliciousCreator]

u can do get dng. I do pro res raw to dng 7-1 with sony fx3

[@renaissancedigital5730]

hmm he said he would use it as a viewfinder tho lol

[@JustinPhillip]

🤣 yeah guess i didnt see that part

[@Cameranerd876]

To be honest was off the fence about the pyxis but now I'm cartwheeling on it

[@JustinPhillip]

🤣

[@MtZionMediaPro]

😂😂😂

[@chicobraz4335]

It dont charge anything , its still avg looking cam

[@JustinPhillip]

🤣 fair enough

[@MrDeliciousCreator]

Just do pro res raw to dng . its what i do with fx3

[@JustinPhillip]

What do you use?

[@st.jacques-pierremaximin6109]

@@JustinPhilliphandbrake software is popular

[@devincorboy8638]

That cam has a nice image but it's not arri science or quality. I'd use a fuji before that cam to get an alexa look. It's nice though!

[@JustinPhillip]

X-H2S?

[@devincorboy8638]

@@JustinPhillip yes sir!

[@rezaVfx]

Bye Komondor

[@JustinPhillip]

🤨

[@Michelle_Rosewood-k9b]

He never said it was equal to the arri…

[@JustinPhillip]

No one said he did, in fact i played the clip of what he said

[@alexiskobalt7450]

Are you on drugs, Justin? It's the same bloody camera as the 6K FF Cinema Pocket. ALL that has changed is the ergonomics. Low-light performance and rolling shutter is still in the toilet. Sometimes I just don't know about you...

[@JustinPhillip]

The rolling shutter issue is really no longer an issue thanks to the gyro stabilization in post. Have you seen that? Lets not forget about the rolling shutter of the Burano! Lowlight…okay…i’ll give you that but the Komodo was never a lowlight camera either. It’s not a documentary camera. Either way, i think you’re missing the point here. The marketing genius behind this move is whats gonna drive the sales of this camera. But also, i do think it’s a strong contender. Its certainly going to give a lot of companies a run for their money.

[@RafalGendarz]

@@JustinPhillipI doubt you can remove rolling shutter with stabilization, you will still get curved lines and jitters. In shadows red and bmcc6kff (same sensor) are identical but highlight is completely different which makes everything on bm more digital. Red has more dynamic space therefore all is more filmic, also density and colours are big difference. So bm iq still has this digital thing due to less dr in highlights and lesser colours

[@organismx]

@@RafalGendarz If you are not whipping the camera like crazy doing extreme pans, if you are just walking with it, like you actually can correct the rolling shutter issue in post. I am 90% sure that I read an article about it.

[@RafalGendarz]

@@organismx i have both cameras so i know lot of anterfacts

[@errol3184]

You can tell BM is really pushing a cheap sensor. BMs in-house tech and software keeps getting better , but as they cheap out on their outsourcing costs (sensors, no pro-res,ect,) their cameras get worse compared to the competition. What competed with the OG pocket besides an actual cinema camera? 5D? Now every manufacturer has BM beat in their specs minus the RAW like codec. At least CDNG was real raw. Might not be necessary to shoot video that's supposed to just look like we'll shot video, but when you're trying to push a big Hollywood look on a microbudget, it can really help. Can't change the color temp of your practicals, and you can't afford the time or money to completely replace them, and can only supplement? The temp contrast between tungsten and daylight is too much. Real RAW helps with stuff like that. IDK what BM can do about real RAW, but if they could get a hold of a prosumer level sensor, it would be a game changer combined with their other tech. Right now, it's just lipstick on the pig. BM sold out. The move would cost them some of their earnings in the short run. I would say profit margins but common. A company like this will pass on every penny if they feel they can no longer go in the other direction of reducing the quality of their ingredients. Software, BRAW and a pretty half baked in look like the film lut, are like seasoning. They can only cheap out on the meat like a sensor so much. At some point I would prefer a quality sensor, that resolves a good image w/o fuss, where I can make it my own.

[@robertdouble559]

Pretty average stuff. Would like to see what a better black magicl advocate could do with it. John Brawley for instance.

[@JustinPhillip]

🤣 shots FIRED!

[@ozzythemighty2767]

I'm all blackmagic fan myself. But.... It has a huge problem. It's cheaply made with cheap china made components that breaks Ez... What happens when the side screen dosent work like the 4k-6k before it? I would never , ever trade the worry free of a Sony Venice or an Arri camera for some low budget camera. NEVER!

[@JustinPhillip]

You are not wrong about that! Definitely some concerns, but for a $3,000 price tag it makes sense. But maybe woulda been nice to see it like for 6 grand and have a more substantial build

[@Aaron_Smith_OM]

I hear you. But how often does that happen with BM screens? not asking to undermine you, just genuinely curious. I've had 2 pocket 6ks and two pocket 4ks and they never gave me an issue. Of course, if you have Arri/Venice budget for work, well, no reason to look at a Pyxis anyhow I guess lol.

[@SaintProductions1]

@@JustinPhillip Your thoughts on Red komodo X price cut? I believe it was a smart move.

[@HowImaFan-eh3rc]

You're right but I think this is on the market to compete with other cine cameras at that price point, like the Komodo, FX 6, Canon C400 etc. In no way would this replace a Arri or Sony Venice. Justin's point seems to be that if a guy with such a high level of expertise is getting behind it, it must be a good camera. But like all cameras they are tools, and I highly doubt he'll be giving up use of his Arri to use this camera full-time

[@JustinPhillip]

@@SaintProductions1yea now that isn’t a coincidence!

[@IamElephant]

You had me for a bit but then you made the comment about “old white men…” What does race have to do with Pro-Res? Stick to the topic at hand and people will respect you more vs using trending snooze induced language.

[@JustinPhillip]

🤣 hit a sensitive spot

[@IamElephant]

@@JustinPhillip not at all. I’m a black man who is also in the film industry and for a while now. The fact that you responded in that way is a little childish. I was not dogging your video hell like I said, you had me most of the way and I agree with you about it’s a bummer with pro-res but race has nothing to do with what the context of the video is. It’s low hanging fruit. Do better.

[@danbrockettDOP]

@@IamElephant I am an old white man. I didn't even notice ;-)

[@MonstroInLA]

Nah bro that ain't it. Footage looks average at best.

[@Burritosarebetterthantacos]

Blackmagic is awesome until you show up on set and it grenades itself and you look like a fool.

[@JustinPhillip]

🤣