Best Cinema Camera for Only $1,500!

This is my in-depth review of my new B-Cam & quite possibly my favorite camera EVER. With amazing specs, mind blowing color science, & SUPER affordable!
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00:00 - Intro
01:13 - World's Smallest Large Format Cinema Camera
02:21 - fp vs P4K
05:07 - Real RAW
06:14 - The Fastest Mirrorless Camera
06:46 - fp vs RED Monstro
07:08 - Why Bit rate Matters
08:05 - Color Accuracy
10:04 - Picture Profiles
10:47 - Latitude Test / Dynamic Range
12:08 - Resolution & Frame Rates
14:08 - fp vs fp L
15:11 - Heat Sink
16:05 - Ergonomics
16:29 - Stills Mode
17:09 - Menus & Custom Functions
18:41 - Notable Features
19:04 - Anamorphic Hack
20:05 - GIFs!
20:14 - Battery & Power Solutions
21:19 - Best Add On
22:56 - Bonus Feature
23:23 - Pre amps
24:02 - External Recording
24:53 - Gimbal Control
25:05 - Last Words
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[@JustinPhillip]

My fp kit: kit.co/jpOnFilm/sigma-fp-kit

[@daoud1608]

Can you control the camera through gimbal and use a ssd at the same time?

[@mo_plants]

Hi, I'm looking for a cinema camera to match with my komodo. Does this color match with Komodo??

[@leedeleon2745]

I'm primarily a stills photographer but I literally didn't pause this video because it was so engaging and well-made. Love the no bs approach and easy to understand explanations about bitrate and resolution. Loved it all, Justin. Looking forward to watching and learning more!

[@JustinPhillip]

Awesome! Thank you

[@jamescohen]

I use the Fp for stills a lot and editing the DNG in On1, you can get some pretty great results.

[@leedeleon2745]

@@jamescohen I really was considering the Leica SL-2s for a hybrid system but the Fp looks to be a contender. Especially regarding value. I love that viewfinder attachment a lot.

[@JamesCohenCaravan]

@@leedeleon2745 I haven't even tried the viewfinder. In bright sunlight you wish for one though, and yeah, the screen not tilting etc. means some minor acrobatics sometimes, but for the moment I can't justify the cost of the viewfinder, when there are so many lenses and SSDs to buy for the Ninja. If you get it, post some samples! Love to see what you do with it. I have a few early things when I first bought it here online and I think one recent clip with the Ninja. I have a long way to go to learn to use it to its potential though, as I discovered from this video.

[@JustinPhillip]

@@jamescohen Yeah! i use it for stills all the time! in fact, that's why i originally got it, all the video stuff i found out AFTER i bought the camera! LOL

[@andreasmischok8523]

Great overview of the camera though I have multiple issues with how the data was presented. Now before I get into things, let me clarify that I still think that this is a perfectly good camera and I'd be happy to add it to my equipment. That said, some things were presented in a biased way. First of all. Color accuracy: While you did show the chromaticty plots at 9:29 you didn't explain them in full detail. You were happy to mention how the Sigma beats the Venice in regards to the greens, but completely ignored the fact that the Venice wins in regards to blues. If you look at the diagram you can tell that the Sigma FP doesn't even seem to fully cover the blue range of the sRGB colourspace. And depending on the display that you are creating content for, this might actually be more important. If you are creating content for Rec.2020 (the large triangle in the diagram/ used by typical HDR displays), then yes... the gain in the greens is probably the more important factor. But if the content you create is for sRGB monitors (the smaller triangle / what most people on the internet have.) Then all the benefits in the greens are clipped away anyway... and you will only be left with the poor performance in regards to blue. This is made worse by the fact that the 1931 version of the CIE diagram (the one used in the video) is biased and allocates a larger area to the green tones, exaggerating the importance of the difference in green, while undermining the importance of blue... The 1976 version of the diagram is much less biased and should be the one used in such a case. I understand however that both the type of diagram used and omitting the blues were dictated by the source material, so I can't really blame you for that ^^ While this isn't perfect, it's not a huge deal either, since highly saturated blues are kind of rare in nature anyway. So unless you set out to capture maybe kingfishers or one of those crazy blue butterflies, the lack of extremely saturated blues won't come into play. Bitrates / DNG RAW: Now don't get me wrong, I think DNG raw is great, but the importance is definitely exaggerated in the video. Comparing KZbin compression to RAW compression is basically pointless.... You can't compare top end to bottom end.... It's like comparing the difference between 720p and 1080p to the difference between 6K and 8K. Like sure the former is worse than the latter (assuming all other quality determining factors remain the same) but there is a point of diminishing returns.... 8K might be more useful than 6K in extreme cases and the same is true for DNG raw, but in most cases, the extra storage needed outways the benefits. If many of Hollywood's professionals don't even bother to use the least aggressive version of the lossy compression methods but instead opt for one of medium strength (e.g. 5:1 on the Hobbit) then surely that's good enough for most of us too? Another thing that bothers me with the bitrate comparison is that it's not clear whether the data was gathered in an unbiased way. If you just compare filesizes in relation to clip length, then you are taking a biased approach. Lossy RAW compression typically combines multiple algorithms, some lossy and some lossless. So the filesize does not represent the information contained in the file. (Example for lossless algorithm.: Grouping repeated pixels can save storage without losing any information... What needs more storage: 8x "green" or "green" "green" "green" "green" "green" "green" "green" "green"?) Less abstract / real life example: The Nikon D810 can stores images as NEF-Raw or as uncompressed TIF files. (And of course JPG, but that's the bottom end, so let's ignore that.) The NEF files need ~20mb per image while the TIF files need ~200mb.... And yet the quality of the NEF files is higher... The only reason to ever use TIFF would be edge case scenarios where you need the files to be immediately readable by any software, without having any time to manually convert the RAW files. (Maybe for the usage in the press, where time is more important than maximising quality?) So don't estimate the bitrate of the video based on the filesize. A better method to make such comparisons, would be to first convert both source files (BRAW and DNG RAW) to uncompressed OpenEXR image sequences and compare the size of those in relation to the number of frames. At the same time another advantage of using an uncompressed DNG Raw is overlooked in the video. AFAIK image/video compression is actually quite a computationally heavy task, which in turn leads to a noticable hit in battery performance. I can only assume that this is at least partially the reason why the batteries of the Sony FP seem to last so much longer than those of the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera, despite having a smaller capacity. Thanks for coming to my TED talk. Hope you enjoyed the read... 😄

[@NAGAFILMDOC]

Thanks bro yours Is the best explanation on the subject I could find on line up to now . Consistent information.

[@FoldingIdeas]

Yeah, the whole thing with the bitrate had me scratching my head. The higher bitrate throughput of the FP is a material requirement of shooting a less efficient format, not an indicator that the FP contains full multiples more usable visual information. "Its bus is faster" is frankly meaningless if both cameras are capable of outputting their highest settings to internal media.

[@RobinParmar]

Thank-you. I got only as far as the confused explanation of bitrates in this video before realising this guy has no clue. It's not about which camera has the biggest numbers. It's about practicality. A BMPCC4K gives *you* the choice of how much compression to use in the BRAW files, and this means that you can make the *best decision* for your needs. The Sigma gives you *no choice* so you must always use the maximum amount of expensive fast storage... or forget RAW altogether. Just because it's compressed, the image must be worse? That's wrong. Even at the lowest BRAW Q5 the BM4K produces excellent footage. There are many comparisons online of the different quality settings. The differences are negligible, seen only by pixel-peeping and not in real life work. Comparing KZbin compression to these file formats is simple ignorance. The discussion of the depth of field possible with a larger sensor is also off base. Not because it's technically incorrect, but because not everyone wants super-trendy miniscule DOF. Classic Hollywood directors prided themselves on *deep* DOF which is *much harder* to obtain and control on set. The BMPCC4K has a Super 16mm sensor which is a conventional size that's been used since the 1960s. if it was good enough for the BBC, it's good enough for me! People should choose the right tool for the job. Until Sigma provides options for RAW compression, the fp is not for me.

[@Leonidas909]

Yeah altho there's some lossy raw formats (often perceptually lossless, even with intense colour grading), what he said could amount to "those documents take way more space so quality is obviously superior than those same documents but zipped"

[@SuodesTzeos]

@@RobinParmar small correction, the 4k has a 4/3 sensor, the 6k has the super35.

[@weekendgamer1094]

You made me buy the camera man....got a brand new body only for just $1226 ... and an extra battery for around $30.. Awesome deal.

[@cesarlunakuri7213]

Where did you got it?

[@weekendgamer1094]

@@cesarlunakuri7213 at a shop in my city. Not online.

[@k.andres28]

So cheap... You lucky

[@milchpulverkakao4917]

What i learned from watching so many videos about cameras is that it doesn’t matter what camera you have ( if it‘s somewhat good) its you who makes it

[@colingregg]

I bought this camera the day it was released and never understood the hammering it received. It is a tremendous camera and makes shooting a pure joy. Thank you for recognising that.

[@Edisonwatts]

Watching this sent me down a big rabbithole! I love watching your videos because you have so much passion and general excitement for what you do, and learning from your experiences saves me a lot of money in my decision making. Thanks for doing what you do!

[@JustinPhillip]

Thank YOU 🙌🏼

[@Eggheadvideoproduction]

I have never heard of this camera and now you have sent me down a rabbit hole also LOL I have a Blackmagic 4K so this has me very interested in maybe selling mine LOL

[@cheapfm]

I have been looking into this camera a few years back now and was fascinated by its capabilities. being a canon magic lantern raw user this is the perfect camera to get going with raw at such a low budget! thanks a lot for that awesome review! exactly what i was looking for.Now I’m so motivated to buy it and film some crazy raw footage

[@austinlivingston9198]

I can't afford to watch this channel anymore... Every time I do, I add something to my shopping list.

[@TiagoNugentComposer]

1:25 fun fact: the original name for the piano (instrument) was the fortepiano because it had much better dynamic range capability than the harpsichord, the primary keyboard instrument at the time.

[@filmdigital]

I remember watching reviews of the Sigma FP when it first came out and thinking, what a shame, they seem to have nailed the hardware, but the lack of functionality really lets it down. Then recently I read an article in RedShark News, about a the low budget feature Snow Leopard, being shot on a rigged out FP, in BRAW 3:1 recorded on a BlackMagic Assist. What can I say, the new firmware has made this thing a beast to be reckoned with. Sigma, although good at making lenses have never been taken that seriously in the cinema / video camera market. I think that is about to change.

[@jaygio]

Your video showed up in my feed after getting back into photography and filmmaking lately after MANY years off, with major changes in technology and specs. I have watched about 30 videos already, and I gotta say yours was the best from a visual perspective, and how you laid out the info. So good I decided to watch again and take some notes on these things. Thank you for taking the time to do this great video in a thoughtful yet direct way!

[@frenchcoupon3391]

I simply adore how you dynamite 🧨 the KZbin Gear frenzy. You touch a point that many (caught on resolution and AF traps) chose to avoid - how much filmic look is really emulated.

[@mitchellmcminn4928]

Hey man thank you for all that info, I've been on that search for the cinema camera and I'll admit I was all about that high resolution too, but I really appreciate you breaking it all down with the Sig fp and the tastey science behind it all. Watched till the end and now I want this camera. I want as raw and best quality as possible, and you showed me that door. Thanks brotha. Loved the Batman reference too 👌

[@venturasurfing]

Justin, top notch! Thank you. Fantastic reveal of this gem of a camera and just a well-made video.

[@JustinPhillip]

thanks!

[@ahoyhere8113]

This was very helpful to me as an fp owner - I bought it exclusively for stills, because it can adapt even very vintage ultra wide angles and offers in-body flat frame correction for them (!!). I LOVE it for photography. Never been into video but now I have a cinema camera, I’ve been thinking I should learn, if only to capture short clips of the gentle movements of the nature I’m out photographing. Your video is tremendously helpful, and informative, even for a total newbie - thank you!

[@jerryeisner1]

Loved this video tutorial and Loved the Out Takes too!!! Lots of info and some fun.

[@budgetsmartgear1167]

Another great video dude! Looks like an amazing little gem. I recently went the nikon Z6 Blackmagic video assist route myself because I am sick of the small sensors even thou my BMPCC4K still sees tones of usage. I was regretting the raw dng on the BM caméra but I must say I now adore the Braw fo its ease of use and post workflow. But this little sigma camera definitely packs some punch. Thank you !

[@RadianFilms64]

This is the first video I see after the initial release of this camera. And yes, this looks like an amazing camera! Just needs a looot more HDDs ;)) And you are right, people now really want that 4k and 6k and 12k footage and forget about the bits and MB/s, the real quality! Love your videos, thanks for sharing and can't wait to see more videos from you, using this camera in different situations.

[@Aarius247]

One of my fav review enthusiast videos about any topic. Thank you for sharing your perspective.

[@Roukus]

This is the review I have been waiting for since the release! I love my fp and it’s always in my bag.

[@Holtenstein]

You're right. I totally forgot about this camera. These are a great deal right now. I may have to find one. Although I have Speedboosters that never come off my P4ks due to shooting with fullframe lenses. Seems like a great option.

[@griffith500tvr]

Did you forget to mention? The fp L is a little difficult to compare to anything else. Without a mechanical shutter its high resolution but slow readout sensor ends up being a little limiting in terms of what you can shoot with it (artificial lighting risks banding and any significant movement will be distorted by the rolling shutter effect). These same factors also count against it in terms of its video, even relative to its 24MP sibling

[@DeonMitton]

Awesome. Thank you for this very informative well produced video. So much accurate info in here.

[@kamomeintl]

Hey man, what a great vid, and your passion… woah, it’s communicative and a pleasure to see! Thanks a lot 🙏

[@IAMLXGEND]

@4:15 - Voigtlander makes a few wide angle (manual) MFT lenses that can open all the way to f/0.95. I own a 10.5mm f/0.95 MFT for my GH5. Easily my favorite lens to use even though not always practical for my filming style. They also make a 17.5mm f/0.95 to better fit what you said here.

[@marc.ristau]

Mitakon also has a 17mm f0,95 for MFT. It’s a lot cheaper than the Voigtlander and there’s a cinelens housing option

[@IAMLXGEND]

@@marc.ristau I’ve owned the mitakon 25mm way back for my Sony. Another favorite of mine, actually owned that before the voigtlander

[@aybee5908]

These Voigtlanders are only usable at f 2.5, in my opinion. A Laowa 10 mm f 1:2 costs about 490 Euros.

[@phfx]

The Sigma fp and fp L are really interesting cameras. They clearly put a focus on making them as small as possible, which does create some frustrations, but it also puts them in a pretty unique space. I can see it working as a b-cam with your considerations Justin, but I think where it shows even larger benefits is what it can do in it's form factor versus other competitive mirrorless cameras. It's much, much smaller than anything else on the market when it's paired way down. Excited to see whatever Sigma does with reinventing their Foveon sensor technology in a future camera. It holds a lot of potential. And yep, you're correct regarding using a native format versus a Speed Booster or even Reducer. Less optics is almost always more ideal especially if you want the best the lens has to offer. Cheers.

[@JustinPhillip]

Thank YOU for all that you do, Phil! 🙌🏼🙏🏼

[@epilepticmouse7715]

I love you! Great videos packed with all the gritty details! Please keep it up

[@stevenxu3]

Brilliant mate! such an education. I gave this option up over komodo a year ago. now, i am getting one too!

[@rolyoliver]

Got it. And glad someone else gets it. Impeccable review.

[@ClaudioDesideriFilms]

Ahaha epic outro🤣 This video was so cool Justin and seeing how much love this camera gives you is so entertaining. Thanks and I'll have a think about this cinema camera 😊

[@davidwilson2509]

Brilliant review Justin. I own this camera as well and I love it for the pure raw and for its color science and the color in the stills. It has a nice built in film grain of its own. Autofocus could be better but for cinema and old style stills manual is okay.

[@pixelkenbrussels]

Hey if you don't mind telling me In what way could the autofocus be better?

[@M419.99]

Just want to say that your videos are so effortless in the way you present & explain all the camera stuff. I always have a great time watching your content! Keep it up my man 👌

[@JustinPhillip]

Thank you

[@ansenvideoproduction]

Boy... This an incredible quality review level. Amazing.

[@mcgreevs24]

This was a super fun video. Love all the care and thoughtful insights you included. You rock my friend.

[@JustinPhillip]

Thank you!

[@JahZilla_inc]

One of the best camera reviews I've ever watched. I'm a Audio Mixer and watched this to the end because it was so engaging. I've never heard of this camera before either. This review will make me take a closer look.

[@marsgizmo]

great video! 👏

[@TwistedFilm]

Great video! I just bought the camera about two months ago and I absolutely love it. I have it with the ninja five, but I am looking forward to shooting cinema DNG. I think your next video should be your workflow with the cinema DMG.

[@colinthomas2525]

Second this too please

[@ScreenFiends]

Dude, this video is making waves! You've really made me reconsider this camera 🤩

[@dlyon9673]

Thanks for this enjoyable video. Your enthusiasm is contagious. I love how Sigma carves out some really nice niches -- i.e., the foveon sensor cameras for still photography -- and now I'm jonesing for an fp cinema camera.

[@DeFeliceVideo]

Thanks for this one! excellent work.

[@kendigProductions]

Yo I can honestly say that your right on point with the DNG RAW being the best possible image you can get compared to film. The images I get out of my Ursa mini 4.6k with the Luca Adapters Magic Booster mod is insane. It turned my S35 sensor into basically a full frame sensor with zero image degradation and coupled with DNG RAW files, it kills any Pocket 6K image out there hands down.

[@PatrickHaole]

Your knowledge/depth and amusing presentation dripping with truth wrapped sarcasm is nice. Thank you!

[@mmughal]

I have been on and off looking at this camera, and yes it came out right before the 2020, thanks for talking about it !

[@AnahatNaad]

Thanks. Watched this quite a few times :) Purchased the camera today 😍

[@oh_aces]

Having used it a ton for both video and photo, its an amazing video camera as long as you're willing to work with CDNG. As a stills camera is far, far better than anyone has given it credit for. Not accounting for resolution, or the led flicker issue, it is far better than my Canon R5 and pretty much anything I've shot that isn't a GFX.

[@jestonyaguilar9069]

woahh just ordered today and supposed to cancel but stumbled on this comment. Waiting for it... 😄

[@trashbag8124]

How’s it better than the r5?

[@FigTreeCinemas]

Great video as always Justin! One thing I would like to clarify is the claim that higher bitrates = higher quality. That's true to a point and when comparing identical codecs, but when comparing between codecs the logic somewhat falls apart. H.265/HEVC is roughly 4-6x more efficient than H.264, with H.264 being 2-3x more efficient than H.263. This means that ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL (frame rate, resolution, bit-depth etc.) an H.265 file at 100mbps is about the same quality as H.264 at 400-600Mbps. CDNG is a BEAR to work with natively, and you end up having to convert to proxy footage for any sort of realistic workflow. Whatever money you save on the camera, you spend on either time editing or time transcoding. This is where compressed raw codecs like BRAW and .R3D come into play. They get mere mortals close enough without flying right into the sun. The fp has OUTSTANDING quality for what it is. Is it practical to shoot on EVERY job? Absolutely not. Does it make my tinker-heart happy seeing others play with this camera? Absolutely. It reminds me of the Magic Lantern days when I used to hack my 60D to get 12-bit 720p files. Kinda want to shoot with that again... Again, awesome video and cannot wait to see what imagery you can make with this camera! -George

[@jduncanandroid]

100% agree... look, I'm colorist/finisher and I've run tests on many different codecs over the years - and a couple of years ago I took a test of Arriraw footage and transcoded it to Prores 4444XQ, Prores 4444, DNxHR 444, and DNxHR HQX. Even putting them side by side and pixel peeping on my 77" OLED at UHD, they were indistinguishable... I then layered them and put a difference filter, and only saw a tiny amount of mathematical difference from the DNxHR HQX vs Arriraw. Bottom line is, just like resolution and bit rate, you run into diminishing returns. If it makes no practical and perceptible difference, all you're doing is burning through cards and drives faster, bogging down your systems, taking up more HD room, taking longer to make backups, etc... and hey, if that's your thing, more power to ya, I'm just giving the facts here. The only scenario where I could make a case for shooting raw and as high of resolution and bitrate as possible is if you are planning VFX composite shots... Oh, and one last thing... who makes a camera which is intended to shoot raw, but not have the option for some form of a LOG profile? Just boggles the mind.

[@GabrielPassarelliG]

Also, there are some lossless compression in codecs like BRAW that makes the higher bitrates of CinemaDNG look dumb. The worst is that, even if you have a quick enough storage, you still needs a powerful CPU, because CinemaDNG was not optimized to be decoded on the GPU. So, a really bad codec in general.

[@smalldeekgeorge]

Hello there im working with 6k and 4k cdng 12 bit files on 2011 hp 8300 sff machine. No proxy and reqltime playback full resolution up to 30fps. I7 3770 4x4gb ram ddr3 1600mhz Gtx 1050 ti Crucial ssd 256gb

[@EitamChannel]

@@smalldeekgeorge Oh Yeh?!

[@smalldeekgeorge]

@@EitamChannel Yup 👍🏻

[@truthseeker5890]

I like it! This one is worthy of my time to start researching! Thank you for doing this! Also... subscribed!

[@innstikk]

Thanks for this excellent video. I love my fp for video. fpL I use for stills. Now the fp got firmware 4.0 with false colour and more separation between STILL and CINE setup. Yes, fpL can be charged while using it with the usb-c port, but when you use an external SSD on the fp, you don't have a way to charge even if fp also had the charging option.

[@haprocreativesmedia7584]

Best video I watched this week. Thanks man!

[@JustinPhillip]

My two previous videos (smallRig RC120D review & Color Science for Dummies) in both those videos the side angle is the Sigma fp as well as the shot at the desk. And in the smallRig video all the B-roll shots was with sigma fp as well. 🤙🏼

[@shangohusani8250]

Could I pair this camera with a Sony A-Series camera?

[@franciscomejias6994]

You just convince me. I put it in the cart already, but I was wondering a suggestion on a cable for recording to ssd? Thanks. Fan for a long time. Keep up the good work.

[@JustinPhillip]

@@franciscomejias6994 the SSD you buy or have should have already came with a high powered usb-c cable

[@franciscomejias6994]

@@JustinPhillip yeah, but a type c to a type a.

[@forfilmssakeUK]

Hey Justin, I'm just wondering on why is a cinematic camera like Sigma FP would be so much cheaper than one released by Canon, whilst also cheaper than Canon's DSLR / mirrorless that are non-cinematic? Thanks in advanced (if you're replying) and take care. Regards. p.s. I haven't yet the time to research into the cinematic cameras vs DSLR. To be honest, I've just started learning on cameras like 2 weeks back as I'm in the midst of deciding which camera model I'd get as my first.

[@joeramos8404]

Thanks for your effort in explaining the technical capabilities of this tool.

[@dmmhtm]

Dude, such a great review! Thank you

[@hellopsp180]

Daaaang the amount of information is insane. I love your passion for this camera. Clearly you really like it a lot

[@JustinPhillip]

Yes I do!

[@vojtarysanek]

Wow great video man! Well explained benefits 🍻

[@Angelo_Paduraru]

I really didn’t know about this camera.. sound very interesting 🧐 thanks for the video!

[@dani_da_vision]

ok im just 5 minutes through the video and im blownnn away not only did i not expect sigma to be crowned for the title of the video but to see the comparison, spec wise to the bmpcc4k , the r5 , the s1 on so fort.. and to see that it clearly outsmart them , again at least spec wise is unbelieveable. not enough videos for this little camera for sure...

[@stephanes.]

Most interesting and fascinating video I’ve seen for months!

[@kentjensen4504]

Absolutely great video about what is clearly a great camera.

[@inspirecreativeinternational]

GREAT job Justin. I remember when this came out - there were issues. However, after watching your video - I am going to try one - mainly because I want FF to use with my EF modded Canon FD L lenses.

[@acousticwaves]

Man! You nailed my doubts in a coffin. I listened to what the haters had to say. They disguised it as the little camera that could, but then let it ride off a cliff. They were excited about the 12bit performance, but hit you with an uppercut because it was lacking something. Man! You nailed it! Straight facts! Outstanding imagery! Superb video quality! Thank you for your honesty and excitement about what you do. God bless you🥳

[@jonhatas]

thank you for your passion and so much information about this tiny beast! best regards from Brazil!

[@JustinPhillip]

you bet!

[@DaneBrammage]

After checking out a bunch of reviews on the FP I finally ended up here… for $1599 including a pretty good $450 lens it’s kind of a no brainer. It’s a pretty odd little camera but with a grip it’s infinitely more usable hand held. I have actually been using it completely differently than I originally planned, I have a few fast fifties and some old Takumar, Panagor and Angenieux lenses from a lifetime shooting 35mm stills. All I can say is WOW! Shooting vintage glass with the FP has made shooting incredibly interesting again. I just wish I had bought an FP sooner. I gotta say that your review was pretty much what sent me down this path, so thanks! P. S. EVF-11 on its way ;-).

[@lifeisgood4519]

Outstanding! Bravo!! Great informative video.

[@vaylx2253]

Can’t believe I watched all of this. So well made, good job friend!

[@NWPipeSmoker]

Good video! I'm loving my fp. I use it mostly with my herd of SA-mount Sigma lenses using the MC-21 SA-L adapter. The LVF-11 viewfinder is really fun, completely immersive. I still wish for a flippy screen (I use a used Atomos Shinobi) but the SmallRig cage with that cool wooden grip is good for my big hands. Love it! With the LVF-11 and big Art glass with the adapter, it's surprisingly big and heavy, but it's great. -Tom

[@unbroken1010]

How was the auto focus with the S.A. lenses and adapter the original mount was L correct? They have a m42 adapter out there?

[@NWPipeSmoker]

@@unbroken1010 The more recent SA-mount Art lenses do great with the MC-21 adapter, and even the older EX-series lenses do very well. And yes, there are M42 adapters to PK (Pentax K-mount) that work well with the MC-21 SA-L, but totally manual focus, manual aperture. The PK mount lenses work on the SA-mount (manual focus and aperture) but SA is apparently just a little too big to work on the PK-mount. I have a P645 to PK adapter that mounts to the MC-21, that works well (manual, of course) with my little herd of film-era Pentax 645-A lenses. My experience is that the earlier lenses lack the sharpness and crispness of modern (especially Sigma Art) lenses, and have been a little disappointing in that regard. -Tom

[@SpencerSnyder]

Ok, was planning on getting a Black Magic soon but might have to go for the FP after this video. Thanks!

[@smalldeekgeorge]

Well it's uncompressed 12 raw over partially debayered compressed raw with built in noise reduction and color frigging. That's almost video 😂

[@anotherintrospekt6596]

Good decision. Selling my blackmagic.

[@jeremiahschuler3977]

Y'all should just buy lights

[@anotherintrospekt6596]

@@jeremiahschuler3977 I have them 🤣

[@Lp-ze1tg]

You did an excellent review of Sigma fp. Yes, there were a lot of criticism when it was first released. But knowing the capability of this insane camera become an excellent option. I think the small display is a concern for manual cine lens. The expansive accessories are also not encouraging (optional viewfinder USD $703 after tax locally).

[@TRAILSAMMLER]

Thanks Justin for this comprehensive insight on this cool video tool. Regards

[@TheMinistryFilmworksEST2018]

Dude, I've been preaching this for 2 years now! I love my FP. Real RAW is the only way to go. This camera's color science is also AMAZING! Super underrated. Thanks for highlighting it.

[@JustinPhillip]

My pleasure!

[@TheMinistryFilmworksEST2018]

@@JustinPhillip Also, Thanks for the ANAMORPHIC HACK!!!! Someone did a deep dive in that manual!

[@JustinPhillip]

@@TheMinistryFilmworksEST2018 actually just noticed it when messing around in directors viewfinder mode. i was like…this looks squeezed, so threw the aivascope on there, and bingo!

[@emanuel-lsea7131]

I keep preaching

[@TheMinistryFilmworksEST2018]

@@JustinPhillip Hey, so I started playing with the anamorphic hack you discovered, and it seems like the FP will let you shoot open gate in the director's viewfinder mode but at a much lower bit rate and codec. Normally the only way to shoot open gate was through an external recorder one HDMI. Have you seen/tried that?

[@kbruff2010]

Outstanding video, thank you

[@megacast]

Great story teller. Subscribed and getting one. Thank you

[@steveteare3865]

This is a great piece of work, thank you! Finally a review by someone that understands what this camera is for. If you want to know what the Sigma FP is, and what it's capable of, this is the review to watch.

[@globalturfwar]

I currently own a Red Scarlet, Epic and an FP. In my day job we use Arris and Sony Venice's. But the camera that excited me the most is the FP. You need to have the discipline of an old school filmmaker (think S16 cameras). But with patience, the footage is exceptional. Truly "cinematic" - up there with the big hitters. Love it!!! Thanks for the great review

[@BrothaEnock]

May I ask why you need the discipline of an old school filmmaker with this camera? Those words just stuck out to me.

[@globalturfwar]

@@BrothaEnockFor me It's not a run and gun camera for someone who wants to use autofocus/internal stabilization, etc. For me to get the best out of it, you probably need to follow a more traditional filming workflow. Take time in setting up your shots - if you want the most cinematic look out of it.

[@BrothaEnock]

@@globalturfwar what cinema camera would recommend for run & gun?

[@globalturfwar]

@@BrothaEnock I'd say Sony's or Canons. I was using an FS5, but I'm sure there's others who'll be able to provide more info.

[@tiggertail]

Thank you for making this in dept review!

[@jmssun]

Absolutely love your video and this camera series! I only hope that the future FP would come with a 2 way hotshoe like Canon and Sony has for transmitter or electronic view finder, instead of the chunky USBC adapter. Makes this setup even more compact and versatile

[@ArturBernardoMallmann]

There is a huge difference between lossless compression and lossy compression... Raw in lossless formats doesn't lose quality, because you don't loose any information.

[@cmdr.shepard]

Tell me one lossless raw except dng. R3d is 3:1 or more, so is braw, so is any other. Dng in pocket is less than 2:1 which is claimed to be lossless and analogised to zip but i don't understand how it is lossless because afaik lossless image compression doesn't exist. If it did we wouldn't have uncompressed openexr.

[@andreasmischok8523]

@@cmdr.shepard Of course there is lossless image compression. Speaking about OpenEXR... There are multiple lossless image compression methods for that particular format. E.g. RLE. Imagine you have a completely black image. You can either write the same value (0, 0, 0) into the file millions of times, once for each pixel. Or you can just say that the same value repeats for a million times. The information is exactly the same, the space needed is very different. (That's basically how RLE works btw, by combining repeated pixels into blocks.) Other lossless compression algorithms are much more complex, but the truth is that they do exist. Now with video there is also temporal compression. (e.g.: Pixels that don't change over time, are ignored until they do.) Let me give you a more approachable example: The Nikon D810 can either save to NEF-Raw or uncompressed TIF files. The NEF files are ~20mb while the tifs are ~200mb.. And yet the NEF files are the ones with superior quality. Now that said, it is true that most video compressions are in fact lossy. However, that still doesn't mean that comparing the bitrate based on filesizes in relation to footage length is an apples to apples situation.. Lossy compression might be using multiple compression algorithms at the same time... Some lossy, some lossless. So depending on how these bitrates were determined those numbers might be meaningless... Additionally it's an exaggeration to compare youtube compression to braw compression... It's bottom end vs top end... It's like saying: "People always complain that 720p is pixelated, but they ignore that 8K is better than 6K." Like sure... 8K is better than 6K (assuming all other quality determining factors remain constant) but at some point the additional quality is just imperceptible / not worth the trade off. In a similar manner, many professionals in Hollywood are perfectly happy with slightly lossy compression such as the one used in BRAW. The Hobbit movies were shot using 5:1 compression (RED) and while those movies are far from perfect, lossy image compression was never mentioned as one of the issues.

[@andreywagner5046]

Well well, i was looking for a still camera with good color accuracy, the Hasselblad came to mind, but the high price of the whole system and limited lens options kinda gave me cold feet, FP l on the other hand looks promising, thank you for informative and well made video. Appreciate it.

[@jamescohen]

Also it seems that it works well to get lenses with Cannon EF mounts and adapt them to L mount. So lots of lens choices. I have just started playing with the Rokenon Cine lenses for Cannon EF and its pretty fun and inexpensive. The Sigma L mount lenses for stills are obviously excellent.

[@earnestgildon8608]

Just bought my first camera because of this review! I LOVE the FP! Thank you for doing this review! :D

[@PrimalShutter]

Great job, very throughout review, makes me want to put on the wish list :D

[@matthewboden]

Really interesting video! I’d still say BMPCC4K is the better camera for most people. BRAW may be more compressed but it’s a lot easier to work with and the file size is more manageable. In some professional circumstances I could see DNG raw being more ideal, but in the main BRAW is more then enough for most. There is a reason why the BMPCC4K originally shipped with DNG RAW and changed it to BRAW with an update later on. Also, the menu system on Black Magic’s is one of the best and simplest, while still having many features. Also 4K 60p is great to have. The main thing I’d say going for the FP is the full-frame sensor. Anyway, great video! It was really interesting to learn more about Sigma’s cinema camera offering!

[@aybee5908]

Totaly agree. I own the 4k and the 6k pro and keep my GH-5 for rough outdoor stuff and maybe change it for a GH-6 in the future.

[@Seanvandeusen]

me and a bunch of friends sold our pocket 4k and 6k cameras for the sigma fp. the file size is a bit obnoxious but the image quality is amazing. very easy to work with and we edit most our footage off our ssd or massive externals anyways. You can easily upscale to 8k and still have an amazing image on 8k TV. You can shoot at 3200 iso 6400 iso... let's just say you can crank the iso and not worry about the image falling apart. details and shadows don't fall apart like that on the pocket 4k and 6k. I've been lazy but I have comparison videos I made prior to selling both my pocket 4k and 6k and the sigma fp blew both out of the water. the camera is also small and light and can fit on the lightest and smallest of gimbals. What's really impressive is the skin tones. you don't get that green tint or pink tint you get depending on what batch of the pocket cinema camera you got. I was the last to pull the trigger on this camera and I kept swearing by my pocket cameras. but then I used one as a b cam and wished it was my main camera. So many Blackmagic people are switching to the fp and or komodo. I can't say much about the komodo seeing the only reds I used was the epic. But the fp doesn't feel like another camera added to your pile of gear. it felt like a major upgrade especially coming from the 6k. you honestly have to try it for it to make sense. the second you open and start editing you footage you literally get chills with the flexibility.

[@matthewboden]

@@Seanvandeusen Interesting take, thanks for the info! It really depends on the videos you mainly work on. FP seems like a great camera as a B or even A cam for interviews because of the Raw flexibility for color grading and hq image… also, the lack of 4K 60p doesn’t matter for that circumstance. Where as run and gun filmmakers who constantly shoot motion with commercials, music videos, or anything that will require b-roll, black magics may fit their circumstances better because of the small(er) file sizes, 4k60p+ and easy to navigate menu.

[@Seanvandeusen]

I do hope they bring higher framerates with updates even if we get knocked down to a lower bitrate. I'm using it for travel videos and commercial work. I bought it for my company but found me using it for everything.

[@aybee5908]

@@Seanvandeusen The main ko criteria of the FP is the micro HDMI. I´m a monitor filmer and also need XLR Audio ins. The data size of the BM 6k pro is still !!! ok. I definately don`t want bigger file size (and don`t need it I guess). If I prefer real cinema quality, I rent an Arri Alexa.

[@thedexterbros]

Dude. I just bought an a7iv and am now seeing this and in love with it😂

[@JanneWolterbeek]

This is great, well-presented and good in-depth, love it! Subbed, this is a first for me watching this channel.

[@goemboeck]

A super cool and informative video, cheers!

[@jaikrishnakunapareddy4085]

CinemaDNG....was there in bmc..earlier and that led to storage problem...after that they converted into Braw with a compression ratio..but I don't deny that CinemaDNG output much greater than redraw footage too

[@EdmundElijah]

I've been searching for a B-Cam to my Canon C70 - I think this is going to be a great option!

[@JustinPhillip]

Most definitely

[@stormneurje]

Interesting take and very engaging video. I never really conisdered the fp, but after this video, I think I need one 😆

[@jabottom]

This is a really great video. Thank you for taking the time to create such a thorough and informative video. I challenge anyone to feel unconvinced on this camera after watching.

[@tirasmediahouse1910]

I think I'll get this as a B camera - I have the bmpcc6kpro and been shooting with it for awhile now - love the range and what it can do - but this seems pretty cool and I haven't even heard about it. Thanks! New subscriber here.

[@JustinPhillip]

yeah its a VERY interesting camera, lots of fun to use

[@ZakSanderson]

This was an in depth review and thanks for full frame and all the goodies with this it is hard to beat at that price point most definitely for a one man operator situation this is something i would like, most people shoot less than 10 projects a month the tech we ask for we never fully use. HD 1920 X 1080i projects are the majority we ask for 4k etc how often do people actually use this thanks great review.

[@justincgs]

Why the hell would you shoot interlaced?

[@pixelprovideo3586]

Crazy camera! I have the R5 and work in Real Estate photography. But man this camera kills in video for sure! Great video man!

[@sundaydonutfilm]

Great review for this amazing small cine camera :)

[@MAKE_PHOTOGRAPHS_ANYWHERE]

Dam good review my man ! FP & FPL shooter here.

[@robsquad_films]

I really want to see you compare this with the Komodo for use as a b cam. I remember this camera coming out and everyone saying it was a flop like you mentioned. Because of this I'm really interested in getting this for a future b cam for my Komodo as well. I love that the fp has red and other color profiles to match them all up. Thanks for your discoveries!

[@JustinPhillip]

When i get back from a gig in a couple weeks im gonna try to shoot something with both cameras side by side 🙌🏼

[@joaquinperalba1624]

What happened to this comparison?😊

[@frank2067]

Great vid! Much respect for being a working LA pro and still doing these long vids about awesome dark horse gear

[@wadesmith666]

Great vid dude. Passion is the fuel of great filmmaking. I'm still on the look out for a 4k ish movie camera, stabiliser, and lights, for all under £1000. I'm getting there

[@DemisG.]

This is just so refreshing!!!

[@tscott6843]

Awesome review. 1st time viewer, new subscriber. Watched it all the way through. That’s a wrap.

[@JustinPhillip]

NICE!

[@davidmenkel4411]

One of the best reviews I have ever watched. The material and manner of the information presented was fantastic.

[@JustinPhillip]

Thanks!

[@robertolanga]

Really enjoyed watching this. You're awesome ^.^