Musical Analysis/Reaction of JINJER - Disclosure! (WALLFLOWERS 04/11)

[@JWSoundworks2]

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[@ryanexsus]

This one gives me like a 90's grunge feel which is awesome.

[@Dimebag6789]

See jinjer posted your video on their KZbin stories for this one again, congrats man!

[@JWSoundworks2]

No way! Thanks for letting me know dude! 😊🤘

[@willn.8057]

They posted about this analysis too in their youtube story! You're getting quite famous in the Jinjer Extended Universe!

[@GLstormchasing]

Far and away my favorite song off the new album

[@JeffWheezingGrampusGoddard]

I've seen others have mentioned this, but this track makes me think of Alice In Chains meeting Sikth! Haha. Your reactions are must watches for me, so glad you're doing the album! Thank you.

[@stump23drummer]

Have you seen Neophy? Check it out. Neophy - Monroe for example.

[@JeffWheezingGrampusGoddard]

@@stump23drummer ooh, just looked that up. Thanks for the tip! Right up my street. Cheers!

[@fastfoxxx88]

This song is so much fun! I love the nostalgic 90s thrashy grungey vibes. I love that they mixed it with their own signature sound too. The rising riffs with the intensity of tatis vocals building up took it to that next level for me. They gotta release this as a single. It’s got so many enjoyable elements. It’s too good!

[@mikedulin1325]

My thoughts exactly...I hope this is the next video they put out for the album.

[@johnbedinghaus2390]

I feel like Tatiana usually always brings a bluesy/soulful element to her vocal melodies.

[@Monster1111]

Really cool that you are doing the whole album. For the best intelligent breakdown of Jinjer, this is the only channel you need. Great job! Keep rockin 🤘❤

[@JWSoundworks2]

Appreciate that, John. Thank you, dude!

[@Acekhan201]

Jinjer Army! We need a Disclosure! x I'm Broken mash-up STAT!

[@ricardochiquiteli9239]

one of the best on the album

[@connorfoley6185]

Definitely has to be my favorite off the album

[@arminthielen8570]

Funny today dead hands feel no pain moved to my number one ... every day a new track :)

[@kicksboxes8372]

To add to the Pantera vibe idea Vlad did a guitar cover of Strength Beyond Strength by Pantera around the time they recorded this album and Eugene said Vlad composed around 90% of this album

[@stangcobra592]

Big Lamb of God fans too, they've covered Laid to Rest.

[@patfix]

Keep going back to this song… dis-clo-suuuurrrreee!

[@TobiasMantsch]

Thank you. Your analysis make me fanboy out even more over Jinjer because you have the knowledge and vocabulary to describe what intrigues me about their music. I've listened to this album for a week now in rotation to a) find out if it starts to get stale at some point or b) if there are weak songs that I might start skipping. So far the opposite has happened. Every song has gotten better with every listen. Keep up what you're doing, you're one of the very few "reactors" worth watching because your videos are enteraining and help me learn something about the music I enjoy. And your intro is beautiful, btw

[@JWSoundworks2]

Thanks for the kind words, Tobias! Appreciate that, dude:)

[@frankhermansen243]

This is Another song I also Hear Guano apes, vocal Vibes in

[@caheskey2553]

Song really reminded me of Rage against the machine. Amazing as always.

[@frankh9600]

I agree to the long-short phenomenon. Same for one of my top3 ever artists, Gentle Giant. Comparatively short songs for the 70ies, but I call them miniatures full of ideas and art. Jinjer are very effectively similar.

[@metalgearshady7875]

Regarding Pantera, it's definitely one of the bands they love. I may be wrong but there will be some more Pantera-ish stuff on the next song - 'Copycat' - particularly there is one bit which sounds very (post-glam) PANTERA to me, one bit only couple of lines (it's another very Jinjer song where there is a lot of stuff going on together, the moment quickly goes to some of Pantera's roots, in my eyes XD) I wonder what others think about that part, maybe I'm totally off. Returning to the topic - Jinjer spoke about Pantera being one of their favorite bands generally in some posts/interviews, and actually they noted that the choice for the opening track to be "Call Me A Symbol" was inspired by old thrash albums and particularly Eugene mentioned Pantera's "Strength Beyond Strength" as an example of an aggressive track opening the record.

[@stangcobra592]

Copycat sounds like 10 different bands. Even with JW's keen ear it takes more than 1 listen to absorb that song..

[@erikalbertson7483]

One of my favorites ! I'm getting hints of Alice in Chains and Mastodon. Can't wait to see this one performed live !

[@arminthielen8570]

The Breakdown Part where she sings Come on, let’s play this mind game If you really feel no goddamn shame is just killer !!

[@ericksarmentopereira912]

First time I heard this song I immediately remembered of Stone Temple Pilots. I used to hear a lot of grunge when I was a teenager, so it was a great surprise

[@janfransson5910]

Sometimes I wish I had your head when I hear music for the first time, because it takes me listenting to a song ten times to hear everything you pick up on your first listen. You're amazing, man. Hope you can keep it up. Loving it.

[@JWSoundworks2]

Thank you, Jan! 😊🤘

[@baconcakesss]

One of my favorites off the record. Huge Alice In Chains fan and I got so stoked when this one came on cause I got huge AIC vibes from it.

[@michaelfain1717]

Suggested Jinjer react...No Hoard of Value. Very emotional tune by the band.

[@shanecovey1901]

Disclosure is the most lit song on this album. Heard it front and back.. This song snagged my heart my mind, my soul fuck you. Not you, but everyone. Awesome!!!

[@culloden1745]

Second half of this has a mix of Dilinger Escape Plan and Mastodon for me. Loving it!

[@420graffin]

Really been digging this one. Especially the drop at the end when it gets silent, sickness.

[@TysonGiffordME]

This one really makes me think of Alice in Chains on that first verse Also love the high screams

[@billmacdonald]

Ive definitely heard some things in their music that made me feel there was some Alice In Chains in there before, but maybe never so much as the sudden left turn they take in the back half of the next track “Copycat”

[@fysy9989]

That slide up part that you couldn't identify reminded me of some Gojira riff

[@laxstateofmind]

Love following your album review, keep it up!

[@mikedulin1325]

That guitar riffing from 17:20 to 17:30ish had me feeling Slayer vibes, idk...maybe just me. This is a jam.

[@grae7229]

I can only like vids once, so thanks.

[@badm0t0rf1nger]

This #AlbumCompanion thing is coming along nicely. :)

[@JWSoundworks2]

Cheers, bro!

[@metalgearshady7875]

Lol again commenting another small part of the video - the drum sound -- I have no idea how ppl record drums normally but I saw Vlad show that they had 3 overhead mics ("threereo" as opposed to stereo, sic), 3 mics for bass drum, 5 mics for snares, also some extra mics for other drums and some I guess custom-made (???) large drum.

[@jazoon7249]

Once you are done with your reactions to Wallflowers the interview with A&P reacts and Eugene has some great insight into recording and production. Just FYI. another great video.

[@JWSoundworks2]

Big time - I'll leave that stuff to after I've heard the whole album. Good shout dude! Thanks.

[@grae7229]

I was going to mention this for John. Glad you did.

[@stangcobra592]

@@JWSoundworks2 And Tati's interview with Elizabeth "The Charismatic Voice" is another good one, it already has a 1/4 million views!

[@Paulfighteronline]

I can also recommend Eugene's 3 part interview with David Morgan from the Music Shed channel. Really open conversation between two musicians👌

[@fjolagu]

This is my favorite one, right now at least 😂

[@stangcobra592]

Nice Shirt, I was living right in the middle of the Death Metal scene here in Tampa when Death, Obituary,Morbid Angel,Athiest,Deicide, Malevolent Creation, etc.. were just coming up. Cannibal moved down here too back then to record at Morrisound! Now your getting into the heart of Wallflowers, SO some elements of the album your enjoying so far that you'll notice in Copycat. Tati's piercing scream over Blasts> Yes. Vlad's lethal Crash> Yup Eugene all over the place with juicy runs>Yes Roman doing his magic with so much cool riffing>Yup! BRRING ITT!!!

[@JWSoundworks2]

Unreal, dude! Got to see CC live back around 2000, but would have been killer to see them with Chris Barnes still in the band. As for all of the other bands in the list I had to make do with their cds in the late 90s / early 2000s!

[@stangcobra592]

@@JWSoundworks2 Cool 😎 I was lucky to see all those bands double digit times down here in their infancy to what they became. Barnes was awesome with lyrics & signature vocals. The music on newer CC is Good But I've never been a big fan of Corpse G. Morrisounds Scott Burns is the God of Death Metal Production, his list of albums is unmatched. I'm sure you have some rainy days in your homeland, if you wanna kill a couple hours check out CC's Centuries of Torment Documentary DVD #1 on KZbin. It's a great history lesson of how the scene was birthed. Very entertaining 👍

[@shifty7629]

Awesome as always. That riff during the "Disclosure" part reminds me a little of GnR's Live & Let Die. I also got some pretty big grunge vibes during parts of this song. Loving the album so far.

[@scottmorey6212]

I was trying to rack my brains as to which pantera song that vocal phrasing reminded me of! I'm broken is probably it!

[@anton41]

This track reminds me of Stone temple pilots

[@TheIpadfanatic]

Thought Tatiana was going to give us melodic vocals throughout without going to her signature. Nope. But a hooky intro and outro was great. Thank you John!

[@frankh9600]

Great you found the Pantera hook (I'm not very familiar)

[@wayned8077]

Hey John, the OMV of this song drops today

[@JWSoundworks2]

Thanks Wayne. I attempted to set up a live stream for it but my computer had a heart attack. Must investigate further for future possibilities. Still watched the premiere anyway. Class, as usual!! 🤘

[@brandonconley2705]

So how are you liking Jinjer???…top notch review as usual! Sick shirt bro!

[@JWSoundworks2]

Mate, they're incredible! :D

[@Paulfighteronline]

Disclosure is one of the more playful songs on the album. Definitely getting Alice in Chains and Pantera vibes as well. Tatiana has mentioned that she used to listen to lots of grunge when she was younger. Personally I never really got into bands like Nirvana, but Alice in Chains hits that sweet spot sometimes. Vlad and Eugene have mentioned/alluded to the fact that they are influenced by Pantera and Opeth. Those two bands are favourites of mine so those elements are music to my ears (no pun intended😁). I am pretty sure you'll discover more of that as you work your way down the album track list. Also I think I might steal the "Your mind is as shallow as a puddle on a hot summer day" line as a benign insult😂

[@ToDefyTheLawsOfTradition.]

Also an Up tempo Alice in chains - Again!!

[@metalgearshady7875]

As for the more 'popular rock' catchy part the guys mentioned grunge influences Alice in Chains I guess (I myself haven't listened to them so cant say for sure if that's what they referred to, to me it was more like hard rock part tbh XD) Plus the story about the song is that Tatiana was upset about a rather weird and passive aggressive interview with some political stuff and painting the band 'evil' 'un-patriotic' etc so I kinda feel some 90s punk stuff maybe in the vibe. Even if not in music then in lyrics idk

[@metalgearshady7875]

"Guys" I actually meant the band =/

[@JWSoundworks2]

Thanks - lyrics will be a whole other journey to take after I've had the time to absorb the album a few times. Thanks for the info!

[@metalgearshady7875]

Oh I see it was covered l8r in the video

[@tomshublinski9054]

The beginning sounded like mid-80s stuff to me. Like WASP, Mötley Crue, Skid Row, Cinderella.........

[@papaherf7349]

The way those drums came in ahead threw me off… looked around thought I was hearing shit! Love it though…that’s my speed for them🤘🤘. Great review JW. Will be waiting for your next review.

[@frankh9600]

Tatiana's singing has a lot of similarities with Mike Patton's vocal performance on Angel Dust like Caffeine, Malpractice, or Jizzlobbet for me.

[@grae7229]

Sorry for not commenting much on your analysis here. To quote a certain Irishman you might know, “it was class.” But, to add to that mysterious “list” you have somewhere under your piano: I already chimed in on the band Orbit Culture and their song Redfog. If you like it enough for a follow-up you can go backwards, laterally or forwards in the discography. A band I suspect you have heard but if not, it’s up your alley: Black Crown Initiate and the song Holy Silence. The first request is more for me but the second, we’ll see if we have you pegged yet or not.

[@davidjames6036]

lol Disclosure x i'm Broken could be a nice lil mashup cover........jinjer guys are big fans of pantera anyways.

[@4eknik]

🤘

[@scottmorey6212]

That 'serious bit' with the "don't follow me" lyrics... Do you hear 'flight of the bumblebee' there? I only caught it last night, but it's tension building/frantic energy & it suddenly clicked - hey, that's the bloody bumblebee music! I know Vladi has some classical composing skills & we can all hear the groove influences (Pantera et al) but I think there might(!) be some classical influences in there too. Let me know if to spot any. Also, one track gave me Metallica vibes at one point, I'll have to go back & find it. Think it's As I Boil Ice but will listen again.

[@JWSoundworks2]

I definitely didn't notice the Rimsky-Korsakov. I'll keep an ear out for it when I do a full pass on the album start to end after the reactions are wrapped up!

[@scottmorey6212]

@@JWSoundworks2 the metallica vibes was on copycat, somewhere in the middle - Hardwired /death magnetic era. Can't work out if it was Lars style drumming but that's what my ear heard.

[@Sumaleth]

I'm missing the surprise factor of some of their earlier songs. So far we haven't heard any breaks into reggae, rap, jazz, or something new. Perhaps that drop at the end of Vortex is the only part that takes the listener in an unexpected direction. I wonder if this is a conscious decision, to move away from novelty songs or something. But I do miss it from the songs I've heard so far. (hoping my pre-order copy arrives soon)

[@JWSoundworks2]

I get what you're saying. There's definitely a more homogenous sound going on here but I'm enjoying it as I feel the shifts are more progressive/organic rather than tangential. I don't know if I'd say I prefer one or the other. I love them both!

[@blindbubba9001]

...cheech and chong "ear ache my eye" in reverse...

[@JWSoundworks2]

Damn, I love that song! Haven't seen a C&C movie in forever!

[@frankh9600]

Sure, lotta soundgardenish vibes

[@johnnybravo5670]

I don't say this about any Jinjer songs but this one is just begging for a guitar solo. I love the song but just that semi breakdown 2/3rds the way in with the drum beats where you thought the vocals would come back is just screaming for it. It would be nice to hear Roman just go off on one these tracks someday!

[@stangcobra592]

Back in the day Dmitry predominantly played lead, solo's aren't Romans style but I've seen vids of him jamming he could lay down anything he wanted. Some heavy bands (like Deftones) don't include them during composing

[@piotrterpilowski4424]

Death !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Najs t-shirt :) Meybe Lack of comprehension ????????????????????????

[@JWSoundworks2]

"Symbolic". :)🤘

[@piotrterpilowski4424]

@@JWSoundworks2 ok. Crystal Mountain !

[@ToDefyTheLawsOfTradition.]

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