JYP Responds to KG's Lawsuit, Alleged Contract Details, Wonyoung Fancall Request & Other K-Pop News

[@minnimu2023]

People forget, they're not kpop idols, they're American pop idols under kpop type training. That training still has to adhere to American laws. JYPE broke those laws. End of story

[@Fluffixs]

Finally someone said this!

[@ottomanstamper7609]

Which law did JYPE break?

[@thekpophag7908]

@@ottomanstamper7609 America has a lot of child protection laws and California evidently has some of the strictest in the country. The kpop training system in general breaks those laws (long hours, debt system, etc)

[@cw5437]

KG is the only one who claims this. No other member is supporting or validating her claims in any way, though. And she has brought no solid evidence forward, which is what an affidavit is supposed to do.

[@cw5437]

​@ottomanstamper7609 KG had no evidence in her affidavit, just claims. So nothing at this point. Plus, other group members aren't supporting her claims, so no witnesses to abuse either.

[@ILuvHaoBin]

This is crazy I hate when people accuse victims of over exaggerating. Like no they are not over exaggerating that’s their experience and even if KG is “exaggerating” it doesn’t excuse the fact that they were being mistreated.

[@embracinger3428]

But I also hate people who exaggerate and try punishing innocent people.

[@IdontknooooowO_O]

@@embracinger3428gurl come on even if she exagerate I doubt than a big corporation ( or like varient of a big corporation) are the “innocent pll ” and I’m pretty sure she has a lawyer to make sure she doesn’t exagerate stuff that could lead to even more complications 😭

[@ishathakor]

@@embracinger3428 ok but that is not relevant here at all. we all know what the industry is like but now that kg is filing a lawsuit you're worried about punishing innocent people? jype staff literally made momo starve to debut. be so fucking for real

[@Morphosis77]

​@@embracinger3428please, she wouldn't defame the company just like that, let's at least stay neutral if you're speculating something and don't spread this, remember Kim garam case.. and in the end no company is really that innocent🙏🏻

[@TheDOPPOO]

People nowadays blaming the victim for speaking up just because their stan never speak up.

[@markigirl2757]

Weird since they white wash Camila and Savanna yet they told them they can’t alter their skin tone? I always was sus of that

[@sauchmz]

I think it's unfortunately obvious that they only have a negative opinion towards idol's skin tone becoming darker...

[@h0neym00nl0ve0]

they can become lighter but can't become darker, it's just written between the lines

[@Kpophistorianti]

They can’t alter their skin tone against the liking/approval/desire of the company!

[@gravy9gravy]

Seeing the contract is fascinating. I think in US/CA you can’t keep it secret in the same way you can in Korea. I always thought A2K was a bad idea, but not this bad. In the US, companies don’t respond directly in the press to lawsuits, they speak through the lawyers and court filings. I think this is going to be an expensive lesson for JYPE. They should just let her go.

[@mariasol1545]

its not that its hidden.. but rather you can't sue cause Koreans dont have labour laws for kids also In Korea every young person wants to be a idol, so companies take advantage of this Oh you don’t like the fact that you only sleep one hour a day? Well the next best trainee will do it It makes trainees afraid to speak up bc they will be replaced

[@youdonttneedtoknow]

Oh she's definitely going to be let go. Though, the members who are staying idk what that would look like for them. Considering they're getting a rebrand... it will be very interesting how they handle this

[@ottomanstamper7609]

I don't follow yout logic; what evidence have you seen to convince you that KG will win the lawsuit? What makes it unlikely that JYPE will win the courtcase and have to be paid damages by KG?

[@r3x.x3r]

@@clue.mp444They should’ve known that before signing the contract with JYP. She is 17 so she signed the contract with a legal guardian

[@ottomanstamper7609]

@@clue.mp444 You are not citing any particular law that they have broken! Seems you just assume that because US laws are different they must have broken them. You have not even shown that the girls underwent these "multiple harsh regimens" nor have you shown which laws these regimens break! Children under 13 are not allowed to work on schooldays and no more than 8hrs on weekends; how old is KG does it apply? Do you have evidence that she was forced to work when she shouldn't have? Is training actually classed as work by the legal system? All of these need answering before making spurious claims!

[@Cupidador]

i think jyp forgot the cultural difference of korea and america. the control over korean idols is terrible but is deep rooted in their culture. in the US it's COMPLETELY different! i'm happy she got out of there!

[@raidahshomanti]

This 100%

[@a.a.6789]

Don't ballerinas go through conditions like this? Athletes? Though there will be levels of it like that one Russian figure skating coach is much harsher than others in her country and outside. Even Dua Lipa said she doesn't eat much on tour, these things definitely happen in different industries in the US and western countries. Not to belittle what happened to KG and hope she's free from her contract and debt.

[@blank_line]

​@@a.a.6789 but they don't accumulate debt at least. And they can quit, if they want to, it's their choice in the end of the day

[@ottomanstamper7609]

How did they forget? A contract is a contract regardless of culture differences! Many don't seem to realise that this case will be judged based on the contract; so far I have not seen any evidence that JYP broke the contract.

[@dubu007]

@@clue.mp444 the contract was drawn based on US law by the US side of JYPE, so unsure whether are these legal reps from JYPE US so incompetent to cater to whatever US laws that you all had been saying, staying neutral until more things come to light, if ever.

[@saltclaws]

An example of an idol being assigned a personality would be J-hope (he has spoken about it): he was told to be a bright person who can inspire hope although he himself felt his personality was much gloomier. He also said that by being forced to be the bright person changed his gloomy self to be more bright outside of activities. So ig you can say he faked it until it (somewhat) became true.

[@DearlyBeloved652]

I don't remember this. They did talk about having fake personalities that they dropped quickly after debut but it was the fake tough guy image they had for No More Dream and a little while after that. Clearly none of them are really the thugs they debuted trying to act like. He wasn't bright and inspirational in beginning for it to be a fake personality from the company. Same with Jin who said he was originally supposed be mean and quiet in the beginning and not the naturally loud goofball he really is. What he did say was he's not a ball of sunshine all the time and was afraid to show that side to fans and make them worry. He is an example but you picked the wrong version of him that was faked. BTS in general are a good example because the difference was very noticeable when they gave up on the fakeness.

[@Laura-dn1zx]

​@@DearlyBeloved652 "Really none of them are the thugs they were trying to act like" 😂😂 idk why but hearing "thugs " and BTS in the same sentence sounds so funny and goofy🤣

[@Gaeul-j3j]

Who said that ? Proof ?

[@DearlyBeloved652]

@Laura-dn1zx True. 🤣

[@a.a.6789]

Why do I remember that in that doc about the almost nts member he said that himself and jhope were responsible of making ppl laugh or something? Maybe I'm misremembering but I don't think Jhope is a correct example, what's the source of him saying he faked it till it became true?

[@NimBelle]

I wasn’t originally a huge fan of KG but she is handling this situation better than some adults - I have so much respect for her

[@ottomanstamper7609]

What do you mean by handling better than some adults?

[@rameshpant2819]

@@ottomanstamper7609 it's directed to nwjns

[@The-Mediator]

Yeah she’s got guts

[@lyknfruit]

@@rameshpant2819 nwjns are NOT adults 😭

[@NimBelle]

@@rameshpant2819 no it’s not - I’ve seen people in my personal life not handle situations like these well. She more mature as a minor than other people several times her age

[@SpeedyNessYT]

I understand that the companies want idols to look a certain way (size wise). But like why not have the idols just eat healthy? I'll never understand making someone work all day and force them not to eat at all...

[@XxMABY_LauxX]

They had contracts to follow and rules when they started what do you expect

[@erinlee5936]

@@XxMABY_LauxX yeah, but there are ways to eat healthy without gaining weight. Exercise plays a role as well. Not eating isn’t it. They need to eat for energy. The members need that muscle mass and weight to dance with speed and power.

[@sauchmz]

@@erinlee5936 Sadly, many companies view muscles from dancing as fat that the idol should get rid of, probably because they are too stupid to know about actual dancer physiques lol

[@melodramatic7904]

Yeah. If you're practicing that much, you'd still be super thin even with a normal, healthy diet. I've never understood why companies literally starve their idols.

[@youknowyah]

​@@XxMABY_LauxXnever knew that rules meant having to keep someone at an unhealthy weight

[@Linaocarina]

So getting a little tan is enough to break contracts is crazy in 2024 😭

[@erinlee5936]

I’m glad KG is speaking out on the toxic work environment within the company. It’s high time we make changes in the K-POP music industry.

[@Vedha.]

are u korean ???

[@ottomanstamper7609]

Veracity of KG claims has not been established; your comment is based on speculation rather than established fact.

[@aethden]

​@ottomanstamper7609 but we're acting as if these things don't happen under JYPE or other entertainments.... so it's possible that it's true

[@ottomanstamper7609]

@@aethden How are we acting like these things don't happen? Sure it's possible but it's also possible that KG is lying!

[@JustGotALife]

When yoon from stayc was on eunchae star diary , she literally said company created her image to be cool and chic , full of charisma and that's why they gave her bangs. All idols have pre decided personalities

[@mickeblu214]

This thing about jyp saying not eating to be thin so you won’t be slow when dancing or performing is so old and barbaric and wrong. We already know that you need to be in correct diet or eat well to have energy and at the same time exercise to get your stamina and muscle build, that will make sure you are thin and healthy at the same time. Anyone who tells you otherwise and not let you eat at all is just harming you and doesn’t care for you at all.

[@ottomanstamper7609]

Are you saying that JYP wanting idols to be thin is not letting them eat at all? If so, do you realise that all idols that have been working for JYP for a year would be dead? What evidence is there that JYP doesn't want it's idols to eat well and have energy to be thin and healthy at the same time? I'm pretty sure if you asked JYP to choose between idols who are thin and healthy and have energy or ones that are thin and unhealthy without energy they would choose the former! I think the problem most of those that comment have is that they object to the fact that JYP would rather have unhealthy thin idols to unhealthy fat idols!

[@mickeblu214]

@ whatever, you know what I mean with what i said. If there are idols that say they don’t eat or eat well then I believe them, you are part of the problem if you don’t want to believe them and want evidence just to believe. There are better ways now with slimming without affecting too much of one’s mentality, physical science is way ahead now. That’s why suic!d€ happens a lot and it’s too late for those poor souls. If you don’t want to understand depression as a sickness then I have nothing to say to you, bless your soul.

[@bowjaeger]

@@ottomanstamper7609 A member of twice only ate ice cubes to lose weight. Male idols had to sneak in food for the female trainees. It seems like idols are only allowed to eat normally when they reach a level of success. Food shouldn't be a privilege.

[@Bunnygottalive]

KG is very mature about this

[@joserivero8195]

Even is she was exagerating about the staff treatment with the debt that they out her into is insane! so companies throw the investment cost to the idol too and at the end they get profits while all liabilities go to the idols? hell no. Look how Loona worked for years and when they disbaned they had made visturally nothing! Also, why can any company hire diatitians and fitness instructors to feed them properly, keep them healthy while maintaining a good phisique? Something shade is going on with the managements and where the money is going with the music industry.

[@JSB651]

This contract is predatory and it amazes me that people still end up signing their lives away

[@terrell835]

I feel like there are a lot of examples of male kpop idols who were told they should be the quiet member and so their personalities didn’t get to shine through until way later. Kai from EXO comes to mind but I know there are some other 3rd gen and maybe 2nd gen male idols that this happened to. Maybe L from Infinite?

[@suan333]

They told Mingyu (SVT) to be more quiet because he was "the visual" of the group (all my 13 boys are the handomest) so he should keep the "mystery" 🙄🙄🙄 Like, sir... You tried to rob us from our clumsy puppy wth 😂😂😂

[@jiyongking4344]

Yes!!! Another example is Kim Jaejoong, a former TVXQ member

[@ang3l0fl0ve]

Definitely L, i remember when infinite leader was on a weekly idol show with vixx and was very confused about leo's behavior on the show and asked if the company was blocking him from speaking similar to L. I wonder if its a visual member thing? Like turn down your personality in a way?

[@terrell835]

@@ang3l0fl0ve yea I feel like they wanted their visuals to have like a “mysterious” or “untouchable” vibe to them, it’s definitely changed now

[@vixxexo6855]

@@ang3l0fl0veLeo is genuinly shy.

[@baby.ribz.]

KG ❌ SlayG✅✅✅

[@stephen57583]

"Slay Girlllllllllll"

[@autumn8658]

omgg first, anyways, we stand with KG

[@JDSBTS7]

I recall during one BTS Festa Jin said he was only allowed to be more like himself during "Fire" era onwards. Before that, Bighit gave him a "quiet cool guy" persona.

[@h0neym00nl0ve0]

yes, there was a thing for having a "quiet and cool" or "cold prince" member personality in boy groups in 2-3 generations, idk about the 1st and i didn't see it really happening in 4 and now 5 generations. dearyoongi made a video about it some time ago

[@carolinesch.]

I just noticed this but in jyp statement do they say the hiatus was just because of kg? Not the health of the other members or the attempt????

[@cosmari245]

yeah.... the statement was just awful

[@karthikamallan5202]

"Santa Claus is coming to hood"??😭

[@sake.nigiri]

Remember when TWICE Jeongyeon was originally assigned the "Girl Crush" personality of the group? It broke her down, especially when male fans were calling her hyung in fan meets. The company responded by softening her girl crush personality.

[@halsti99]

im surprised that people are surprised by the personality thing. like, we had the spice girls like 2 decades ago. they were literally called Sporty, baby, scary and so on

[@annierattay5939]

None of this is anything new with all due respect. I really pray that KG makes positive changes to the industry but I feel like so many people have forgotten those we truly lost in the industry to self exiting like Sulli and Jonghyun. I hope this is a time of remembrance and reflection on why this is all so important.

[@Vedha.]

why do u think the K-pop Industry will change for someone who is not even from Korea !!?? they will only change the way they approach foreign trainees. they will be more specific into what they are getting themselves into before signing the contract.

[@fdscrl6016]

Sulli's case has nothing to do with this tho :/ She was heavily scrutinised by the public and had a best friend who left this world because of abuse. It's a bit disrespectful to mix two very serious things that have nothing to do with each other. I'm sure Sulli would be happy to see any good change for the world tho.

[@scanspeak00]

I really hope more idols come forward to shine a light on unfair "inhumane" workplace conditions. We need to have this discussion and come to a fair solution for all parties. Otherwise this mistreatment of children will continue.

[@parkseebs6498]

2024 is def not kpop's year

[@wonrei]

Since izone nothing matters anymore

[@Winter-ny2rp]

Coz it’s aespa’s year

[@_aPaladin]

@9:30 makes sense Enhyphen and Straykids, ARTMS.. etc they all have concepts that require them to act as a caricature of the concept...

[@jojoannajojo]

This is why most of the artists especially those that did not make a lot of money took months even a year to get their salaries because the company takes back first the money they invested before paying the artists. It’s always been like this. I hope that with this lawsuit something will get to change.

[@jonuisfe5684]

Poor KG, I stand with the VCHA members. I’m not sure if I can even enjoy KPop anymore, no where is safe unless they make changes 😢

[@Vedha.]

nah..u will still enjoy kpop.

[@niebruh]

What’s crazy, is that JYPE contract is extremely similar to the ALDC/Dance Moms contract

[@nicolegulino]

Wonyoung is so real and funny. I love her.

[@jennytran2290]

I just have to wonder, as this lawsuit, which is specifically for the American JYPe branch (not the whole corp), is the choice to not include the entire Korean corp is a legal thing (too expensive for international parties) or if the problems are just especially bad in the US branch. Like, there definitly seems like conpany culture crossover, but I have to wonder if it is right to imply it is rotten in the entire corp or out just on the US side. Honestly not sure which one would be better: that JYPe is all bad or doesn't care about their US branch enough to ensure their talents are alive

[@mjan3906]

It might just be because she filed in California. I am not sure if she would have success filing a lawsuit in Korea since it seems a lot of idols go through this, but people seem to think she will have success in California with the minor and labor laws

[@vanesalusaria7860]

Are they under the us branch or the group? Such things matters.

[@erieberrymarshall3906]

Honestly the fake/exaggerated personality trope is SOOOO common. Like for example, felix isnt as innocent as hes portrayed, wonyoungs personality is fake on camera (compare izone to now), jhope is actually quite depressed, Lee know is actually a very caring person, etc etc etc. its EVERYWHERE in kpop. They ALL have to pretend they dont have sex/smoke/swear/drink etc etc. its nuts.

[@Kahilln.1t]

6:14 As an African American I feel disturbed at the Skin Color thing, cuz as a Black Person I literally absorb the vitamin D from the Sun so easily, and my Skin will change if I’m in the sun for more than an hour. So if I performed at a Concert I could literally get in trouble for getting darker…..that’s how I interpreted this portion of the concert. (I understand that everyone gets darker when exposed to the sun, so don’t attack me, I’m just sharing personal facts in how my body works as an African American; we all know ppl say to not wear black when the sun is out cuz the sun will attract to it….welp I’m darkskin…so I really don’t think I need to say anymore than that).

[@stephhb.1736]

Honestly the way KG is doing this is very respectable. She even made it known that she has photographic evidence which makes her claims more believable. The only negative feedback I have is that she signed the contract willingly at the time and appears to have issues with the contract after the fact… it doesn’t make the contract acceptable or right but she also seems like she didn’t know what she was getting into and now wants out? Regardless, I’m here for how this will play out

[@ishathakor]

idk all the girls were very young at time of signing the contract so i don't blame any of them for not doing their due diligence in that regard. kg would have been 15 or 16 when she signed it and probably didn't understand how fucked up the contract was. i do always wonder where the parents are in these situations but even then most adults don't really understand how to do their homework before signing a contract either

[@BlaBla-pf8mf]

Making public a member's attempt including her name and other details is not very respectable from KG.

[@iGotBulletproof-Insomnia]

She could have found the terms acceptable at the time, but as the company dehumanized and broke them, she realized that the contract enabled the company to do all of those things. On top of that, her lawsuit is more about violations of California labor laws than the contract being too strict. The strict contract is probably being used as supportive evidence for the human rights violations the company has committed. The contract itself doesn't seem illegal, just controlling and open to abuse.

[@stephhb.1736]

@BlaBla-pf8mf I don’t think she made the name public? people are just speculating because only one member was out for “health reasons”. Regardless if it’s true, it’s hard to digest and just sweep under the rug..

[@BlaBla-pf8mf]

@@stephhb.1736 The name and all kind of details about the attempt are in her lawsuit which is public.

[@lemonaidebey6190]

I just felt jype was getting better. Ig they didn't change :(

[@vamps8703]

me too, i heard in the past about them not asking for idols their training money and also giving mental support, now... idk anymore

[@iGotBulletproof-Insomnia]

It's a corporation. I think that the company does value their artists, but that comes into conflict with the _control_ they expect to have. There is a difference between being notified about any changes an artist intends to make to their appearance i.e. tattoos, hair styles, etc, and taking complete control of their life i.e. weight limits, skin color, surprise haircuts, personality assignments. Families need to be more involved in these idols' careers. Regardless if they're debuting at 14, 17, 19, or 21, a lawyer, or just a concerned relative will have more perspective on the issues with a contract than the trainee who is desperate to debut. People also need to _read_ these things. Too many people get surprised and upset when they realize they signed poor or outright unfavorable agreements.

[@Rolandajohn]

Three minutes this is the first time I’ve been so early❤❤ i’m so sad about vcha because I’ve been with the group since the very beginning and it’s so sad to hear what they’ve been going through for so long because I’ve been hoping for an update and this is the update we get is just insane cause I used to talk about how the company was mismanaging them but they not only have been mismanaging them but mistreating them and I hate how some fans of other groups are saying that well this is what they sign up for and I feel like that really makes you sound so stupid cause that means you think that your faves should get subject to the type of treatment as well. Just because this is a so-called job that they chose to do no that fan should not think that way mistreatment is mistreatment regardless

[@likelyoolikemetoo]

ikr like what they're saying to be 'signed-up' for is wrong in the first place

[@NickNekko]

define "reasonable"....proof that contracts can be vague yet filled with demands 😬

[@alllthatremains]

Yea KPOP industry will never change, they’ll just stop using there US branch

[@sfukuda512]

All of the following is my opinion. I am not a lawyer. I think the revelations of the contract terms is fascinating. In regards to contract terms vs. abuse -- you cannot sign away your constitutional rights. Everyone has the right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness (property). Any contract terms that infringe on these rights are null and void. Now, there are things like waivers, but they are very specific. Stuff like sky diving and bungee jumping. You accept the risk because you are doing something risky. Being a trainee or an idol should not be so dangerous. Also, she's a minor.

[@c0smicchelsea]

Does jyp USA really believe we are stupid enough to think the kg is making “outlandish claims oh pls

[@alexlefay]

They're used to korean media play and they have a big storm coming 😂

[@MeMe-e3p5d]

Well I honestly wish that idols qualify as workers in SK so atleast they could get support from labour's law of country like KG case While whole personality thing does make sense it's to attract public and most of celeb do that so it's no surprise, but prohibiting food and water is unacceptable there are many ways to lose weight instead of starving

[@Real-ranchia]

그런데 그렇게 하면 케이팝은 몰락할 것이다,,느슨한 훈련이나 관리는 결국에 실력의 부족 및 각종 사고를 일으킨다고 ,,,그러면 한국내에서 이들을 무시하고 인기는 추락한다 ,당신이 생각하는대로 해서는 미국이나 일본에서는 그룹가수는 이제 찾기 힘들어,,그게 미국식이거든,,, 미국식은 경쟁력을 가지지 못한다고,,한국 엔터사가 지금 육성 체제를 고수하는 이유이다 ,,,

[@MeMe-e3p5d]

@@Real-ranchia I'm not saying training system is not good but starving people is. Infact I'm Asian myself and i know we have pretty much same work culture here and are pretty much workaholic which is usually not common in west. Every person is asia regardless of profession works overtime and barely sleep it's common *but starving is not correct way for making idols skinny* . *There are many ways like gym, pilates and all* *Also dancing while having torn muscle is not good and singing in bad vocal conditions can result in voice permanently loss* *Above that imagine company creating debt on you despite you overworking having injuries and starving* *Change in country's labour's law would help them so that companies don't break any contract point (as in case of VCHA "living in dorm was optional" that too expensive one), people won't misuse their power (like gauen who was sa by her ceo) or trainers misbehaving (just like how teachers in school now have limited punishment for student not like earlier)*

[@Real-ranchia]

@@MeMe-e3p5d 풋 원래 아시아인은 적게 먹는 것이 일반적이야... 적게 먹으면 수명이 더 길어지고 각종 질병이 방지가 된다고,,,, 나는 성인 남자이지만 적게 먹는 생활을 30년 이상 해왓다,, 가장 적게 먹는 인종이 아마 일본인 일것이다,,이들이 오래 살고 건강하지 ,,적게 먹고 건강한 식사 유지는 가장 단순한 일이고 이것을 왜 못하는가???,,, 미국인들의 거대한 몸매을 볼적마다 나는 이들을 미련하다고 보았고 ,,,이는 한국인 전부가 그러할것이다,, 다이어트는 본인의 건강에 가장 가치 있는 노력이다 ,,한국여자는 아마 전세계에서 가장 마른 몸매 일것이다,,, 너무 지나친 다이어트만 피하면 된다,,KG는 처음 부터 체중이 문제라고 나는 생각 햇다

[@MeMe-e3p5d]

@@Real-ranchia bruh i have no interest in explaining to 30+ guy who is so involved in normalizing mistreatment of group of children and enjoy watching people perform knowing they probably have torn muscle and ate no food Dieting ≠ starving Starving = Extreme fasting Dieting = avoiding food with high content level consuming only green leafy food at max Fasting = eating nothing at all for a day or two once a week or month Starving = eating nothing for many days continously days *per week* We also fast on religious occasion in here but that's just like one month in a year that too not continously daily. Fasting or Dieting is goog but there's a *If i have to explain this to an uncle idk why don't you focus on whatever ur job is instead of commenting same thing everywhere* *Uncle please focus on your job, make money, live long life and diet daily*

[@ShaShashhhh]

​​@@Real-ranchia Ajussi you said eating less right? But the group was starved lol that means no eating Why can't you under simple difference between dieting and starving ajussi? Maybe age 😞 oops or maybe your beauty culture 🙌 😃 One of members literally ate 42 pills in pressure of being skinny that's not dieting Ajussi why don't you try the same 😄

[@AnnaSophiaLuna]

Vcha did not deserve this it's so sad

[@alifishies]

I love the tea

[@z0mbieninja]

This is a high control organization. I would absolutely NEVER let my children surrender their entire identity to an entertainment company. Holy shit. Please sign here to become an entertainment slave: ___________________. Thank you for your contribution to our bottom line. --- So many of these companies are like this. 💀💀💀

[@mintchoko7336]

Idk about anything but lately the content i have watched of Ateez Yeosang keeps acting like he finds something funny and laugh then get serious in a second like correcting that behavior, i just hope that's just him being himself

[@youknowyah]

korea (and asia in general tbh) has this culture of maintaining a certain type of image & reputation through imposing standards. an example would be like how students are pushed to excel academically, or in this scenario, like how idols are to follow weight restrictions in order to fit beauty standards. it's so common for kpop fans to hear stories about mistreatment, to the point that some of y'all are brushing this case off. it's funny. cultural difference doesn't matter. mistreatment is mistreatment.

[@Suprise.dlamini]

JYPE legal team be like:👁👄👁

[@koto2u]

Not the right moment for this.

[@Snek-t2n]

Let's please not joke around a sensitive subject.

[@ninablack2516]

JYPE response upset me...do NOT victim blame in your response. As a human being I want to hear "we are going to investigate the claims and if they are found to be true we intend to take steps to rectify the situation, we take the wellbeing and development of all our artists seriously." Don't ever make excuses for abuse ...don't ever blame the person who makes the allegations until a court has or the law has made a ruling. JYPE response just makes me angry and distrustful towards them. I also very much dislike the assignment of personality to Idols...Its fake...its calculated and its very deceptive. I do not want anyone lieing to me just to be liked. WTF is wrong with people that they do an unalive competition for murderers...that is just sick.

[@AnllyBelliard]

We ❤ you Angelina!! Best part of this video!! ❤

[@suan333]

I support your delulus as well. Of course Rosé is a fan of the channel ❤

[@ramoncapiral6427]

i remember loona

[@jaya2572]

The girl came with receipts! There's a difference between strict standards and practices that helps you as an artist and practices that harms your physical and mental health more than it helps and that is called inhumane working conditions. Here, it looks like the latter for sure. I hope KG wins this.

[@sonofsarek]

Kpop members have roles and characters?!? Nooo. Say it ain’t so! 🙄. They are pro wrestlers, but instead of performing in the ring, they perform on stage. Their roles make it interesting.

[@angmarie-gd5nq]

While not surprising, it does make one question what the hell was JYP even thinking when creating vcha. Because yes, these fake personalities work well in the k-pop industry because they’re expected. However, we all know that the American audience tends to care more about authenticity. It’s the reason why Katseye has met so much more success, the company is letting the girls be themselves, which is more appealing considering their target market. JYP wanted an American group but then tried to make the girls fit all the standards of the K-pop industry, ignoring the fact that they aren’t supposed to be k-pop idols, just an American group created with a similar system

[@sonofsarek]

@ mistakes: 1) accepting minors, 2) not training in korea, 3) picking the wrong people. Re: katseye. Eh, I have mixed feelings on Katseye. Their facial expressions seem so inauthentic and cringy. Like they are used car salesmen trying to sell me a junk car. I get the impression they would be bratty and annoying in real life.

[@angmarie-gd5nq]

@ how many comments have you made on here? I just replied to one of your other comments and didn’t even realize it was the same person. But those were major mistakes. Still, how are you gonna go around blaming the victim who was a minor as if she knew better. Maybe blame her parents but not her

[@angmarie-gd5nq]

And Katseye might seem “bratty” to you but you can’t deny that they fit western standards way better than any k-pop group out there. Personally I prefer a bit bratty to that fake cuteness that a lot of k pop idols try to emulate. Why are men and women in their mid - late 20s acting so overly cute, that’s way less authentic in my opinion bc we can easily tell they definitely aren’t talking to their friends like that

[@MrSuperjam789]

@@angmarie-gd5nq I'm sure Katseye probably has similar contracts, they come from HYBE after all. Also, they have had recent issues with members getting sick/injured, so it's not all rosy over there.

[@rogue0204]

I dont know why idols dont revise this contracts with lawyers and parents acording to the law of each country and negociate with the company yes this may not get them to sign a contract but if they are not comftable why sign it and then complain (this does not mean that what alegetly happen acording to KG should happend be accepted or discard as its a person life that is in danger)

[@FluffyMarsu]

because the companies specifically do not allow them time to do that. ESPECIALLY in groups formed from competition shows. it's "well if you don't sign this by such and such time we'll take this opportunity of a life time and offer it to our second in mind to you, BUT we would loveeee to have you". they are pressured to sign right away. a lot of them already have contracts from the show and figure it's probably not that much different so just sign it blindly. there's many reasons, and even if you think you'd be smart about it when you're being pressured by these rich, powerful men in suits, you might just give in too.

[@Real-ranchia]

현실은 회사의 요구에 맞추어진 계약서를 거부시에 회사가 그녀를 배제 시킨다고,,,, 한국에서 아주 흔하고 ,,아이돌의 의향이 보통 무시가 된다고,,, 회사는 지망생들이 매우 많아서 맴버를 다른 사람으로 교체하면 되므로 ,,그런데 이점이 현재 케이팝이 성공한게 된 이유이다,,,,KG 가 경험한것은 한국인에게는 심각한 것은 아니다 ,,,케이팝 훈련 시스템 자체가 한국인에다 맞추어진것이다 ,,한국사회는 원래 매우 치열하다

[@nancyk8153]

If the other members won't join KG lawsuit as witnesses then I think she might have a hard case to win. It also doesn't look like JYPE wants to keep her so she can cancel her contract. The issue is if her allegations are false then JYPE can sue for defamation. If her allegations are true then she can leave JYPE without any penalties. This isn't similar to the NJ drama.

[@PS_2020]

NJ themselves don't want to be NJ anymore... they're sabotaging themselves😅😅😅

[@johnnyfuture3524]

Where did you find that contact? Do you have a link for it? Im not finding anything in your sources

[@moluccensis]

it should be fixed now!

[@scanspeak00]

From Hanni appearance at the Korean National Assembly : ~When asked about respecting workers’ human rights at the National Assembly, ADOR’s current CEO responded by saying: « Artists are not considered workers. »~ Hanni: « I feel that if we respect each other as humans, at the very least, issues like workplace harassment and other sensitive matters wouldn’t exist. I’m so grateful for the attention you’ve given to this matter, and I truly hope that none of the seniors, peers, juniors, or trainees here have to worry about things like this. I’ve seen that many people are concerned for us, and I’m very thankful.

[@Brianna.xoxo.123]

Overhearing someone say ignore her is not harassment or bullying their tryna stretch that incident so much

[@FluffyMarsu]

​@@Brianna.xoxo.123it is workplace discrimination. that you cannot deny, even if they aren't workers. and I don't even support newjeans really. I was never a fan. but it is what it is

[@ThemedNumber02]

This was an absolutely INSANE episode like----

[@tiaralcu]

the stayc bubble thing are just the candle emojis. 쟈유니 is literally just bc 자윤 is yoon's name lol

[@zmaoe]

u always post when im about to go to sleep 😭

[@jdj10078]

the slap was so funny

[@theGinthebuilding]

Literally why can't they say the words kill...On a live sounds just as shocking

[@Tigerous]

Ah if only world leaders apologized for starting wars we would be better.

[@iambarryallen]

South Korea really not far from North Korean strict standards lmao

[@Real-ranchia]

아니야 남한이 북한 보다 더 엄격하다,,케이팝 시스템은 세계 최고 수준이다,,그래서 당신이 지금 케이팝을 소비 하는 것이라고

[@_Gilles_]

Loool ​@@Real-ranchia

[@ShaShashhhh]

​@@Real-ranchia no wonder you guys were having material law few days ago why not join the protest instead of commenting everywhere Or oops maybe you also wanted martial law 😃

[@MeMe-e3p5d]

@@ShaShashhhh lmfao bro 😭😭 I mean yes like why can't this 30+ guy join protest to actually be "citizen of country" instead of writing same thing everywhere in content of 17 year old idol filling lawsuit against her company 😭

[@ShaShashhhh]

@@MeMe-e3p5d ikr At one place this guy literally said "idols as young as newjeans and illit are considered as child and younger sister in korea" like then why their deepfakes on nth room is shared?😭

[@MsFated]

Seeing and hearing out the contract is actually scary. Like I heard the rumours but it’s really is in the contract. My gosh, kpop industry honestly doesn’t give their artist ANY form of human rights.

[@b1ossom.cherry]

i am so concerned for vcha as a whole. i know they are coming back in 2025, but with this being revealed, i hope that ALL of the girls will be able to leave the group asap. im boycotting vcha from here on out, hopefully they can be freed and pull a loona

[@Real-ranchia]

이 사업은 소송으로 인해 중단으로 갈것이고 보통 한국내에서 이같은 논란을 유발시에 대부분 그룹은 해산으로 간다 ,,,KG가 이탈시에 VCHA는 4명인데 이숫자로 팀은 운용이 어려울것이다,,결국에 해산을 하겟지,,

[@Bunnygottalive]

Yay KG! 👏🏻

[@Rbosikwig]

MAY, is the key word here the month of MAY

[@retrogirl2498]

Kpop companies definitely control a little bit of their personality. STAYC’s Yoon has said multiple times they want her to appear like a chic rich girl but her real personality is funny, talkative and she’s just a goofball so she didn’t follow it but it was okay because she’s good on talk shows. I’m glad the company didn’t hold her back but just raises the question of if there are idols being told to alter their personality to create a certain image

[@hopefaith4595]

That member personalities just reminded me of ex-TVXQ Jaejoong where he used to be the quiet and mysterious because he was told to but over the years he gave up on that lol

[@TheMarvelsEdits-ce7ux]

So basically, I see a lot of people saying like ‘they couldn’t get away with it bec it’s America’ like yeah, we know. But can we PLEASE talk about how this is happening EVERYWHERE and it SHOULD NOT HAPPEN ANYWHERE.

[@meIatonin]

I’m gonna need your skincare routine 😭

[@eunchaezlyOn]

not my reddit post being in the video 😭

[@소피아143]

Ik this is completely of topic but your skin is gorgeous

[@ioutsoldurfavs]

15:16 these look a like contest have gotten out of control,idk why I always find it so funny 😭💀

[@jee121]

what a great day to be named Angelina too

[@Grid21]

The way you started this video, and then with no clear direction. changed to a different subject, isn't very good reporting. If you were going to do a follow up video to JYPE vs KG, that should have been it's own video, not mixed with this other irrelevant content that took the video in a spiraling confused direction. So let's bring it back on point. First of all, contracts that JYPE have, are probably not unusual, extreme yes, but unusual. Second, if they are going to operate inside the US, yes they do need to make adjustments to the contract to fit a none-asian culture were we are used to our Freedoms as individuals, while South Korea's constitution is some what similar to the US to a degree, they operate differently than we do. However, that doesn't make it right to have THAT MUCH control and certainly should change so that "idols" aka, still normal human beings, SHOULD BE treated far better than they currently are right now. I do hope that KG's lawsuit is a start of that change and I share in her want to make the industry, and entertainment industry world over, change for the better. I appreciate the update with KG's lawsuit but in future, please consider and plan a little better how you make your reporting videos especially when there is a high amount of detail that needs to be address so that it doesn't appear as a "drama" episode update and more of an informative "news report" update. Thank you.

[@LeloLeeleeRamirez]

One thing about us Americans, we are a suing society. She tried to be cordial then they decided to throw dirt... She's gonna win that lawsuit.

[@zeyv4551]

Just think Spice Girls. Everyone had their own personality.

[@leera231]

yeah but it was not assigned.Victoria is literally posh(spice).

[@allie3482]

Spice Girls had a persona based on their real personalities which they did not have to fake. It wasn’t a made up personality based on the A&R’s concept or their biased idea of their physical look.

[@SpeedyNessYT]

I am very disappointed with the JYPE company (and him). Like in the back of my mind, I was thinking all the companies had a lot of bad things going on. But I liked to think JYPE wasn't as bad as everyone else. I hope everything will work out with KG!

[@chrissyhomegardendiy]

Justice for KG

[@Real-ranchia]

This incident is very likely to flow in an unfortunate direction // First of all, this incident will not bring about change in the K-pop system and it will not change,, The reason is that the current system is very successful and creates huge profits for idols and entertainment companies,,,, Why would they want to change it???,,,, Since Korean trainees are doing well, the only expected result is that Korean entertainment companies will close their doors to foreigners from Western societies,, There are currently growing voices like this in Korea.

[@Real-ranchia]

2,,,The main characteristic of the K-pop training system is that it is very pressuring and controlling, and those who pass the process without fail have very excellent abilities,,,only these people are allowed to debut,,, That is why K-pop dominates the music market,,not everyone can become an idol, only the best are allowed.

[@MaggieAND-vi8xl]

Ngl.They knew what they signed up for.All of us know what Korean culture is like and how K-pop idols train, so basically, they knew what they signed up for.

[@soobintheestalIion]

people are soooo sensitive it’s insane. people genuinely getting upset bc a fan asked wonyoung to slap her over the phone like you would have thought the fan asked wonyoung to suck her toes. it’s not that serious its quite literally so unserious to ask someone to slap you over the phone

[@lnklo]

wonyoung so cute

[@Real-ranchia]

The reason why K-pop idol groups dominate the international music market except for the United States // 1,,K-pop is unrivaled,,,,especially in the group singer field,,,,the reason is that Koreans have excellent mental and physical qualities,,,the next is that K-pop's idol training system/Korean entertainment companies' industrial structure is excellent,,and Koreans are very challenging and proactive about their goals,,

[@soniaiboyako4023]

Not trying to be funny but i genuinely need this to make the America/Kpop hybrid groups stop lmao enough fr Also regarding the contract stuff: just read any terms & conditions... they sound just as strict (if not harsh), it's mainly to cover their asses in case of legal trouble and to be able to step in if needed (and as uncomfortable as it may make some, it *is* needed) And the enhanced (and sometimes made up) personas are one of the most basic elements of pop... the Spice Girls anyone? no? alright - mind you the Spice Girls were one of the most organic groups out there too so it's definitely not mutually exclusive !

[@Real-ranchia]

3,,, If I were to assert definitively, Asian men have stronger paternal love than sexual desire, while Western men have stronger sexual desire than paternal love. In Asian regions, the value or image of young female idols is that of babies or younger sisters. They are by no means objects of sexual desire. These young female idols found in K-pop girl groups are presumed to be the product of such marketing strategies by Korean entertainment companies.

[@justinmin6623]

It’s in the contract because there was an incident before

[@chengsaephan7362]

I still support VCHA no matter what...

[@TomsMusicCorner]

JYP Ent. doesn't see the problem because they don't want to see it. Well, most of the clauses read more like something normal. I read it as a ban on expressing oneself politically and that's ok.... within limits. When I think of Tzuyu here, it's shameful not to have your own opinion (even though it was not even an opinion, she did what she was told to do). What I find worse is the issue of personality. These are teenagers, one is even still a child and she's not allowed to change her personality when she's still in the middle of puberty? Did the people who write these contracts jump out of their mother's womb as adults? The same goes for skin color. We know that Asians like pale skin (Modhaus is once again a negative example here -> the latest ARTMS objekts are once again totally bad because of bleeching) BUT WE LIVE IN THE 21st century!!! It's good that KG left because JYPE is terrible. I hope their contract will be terminated and no debt will be left because that 2.5M apartment or whatever it was wasn't rented by the girls. JYPE should stay in SK.

[@TheChick24]

Listen I am here for Wonyoung slapping the camera 😂 I would absolutely do the same, fan call or in person 😂😂

[@Yxxyn._]

I think wonyoung would’ve declined it if she didn’t feel truly comfortable but she went all in with it 😭😭

[@TheeWairimu]

Wait am i early?

[@kellyzheng2529]

Instead of talking about it on social media why don't they discuss about it in person.

[@Real-ranchia]

How do we view this incident in our country? It is natural that idol training should be hard and dieting should be done,,if you can't diet, you are laughed at in Korea,,,,In fact, dieting is the easiest thing for women, No Korean or Asian has sued the company for this problem and the media has not reported it,,the background of this incident was Park Jin-young's excessive greed,,the next reason is that V-Cha was a team with very poor skills overall,,,

[@Soy-1-sacristan]

Ya estoy hastiado de no oír ni leer yo en un periódico que no diga la purA verdad valiente juramento hicieron