isn’t HAEWON one of the best aces kpop has ever had? that girl can even act, mc, speak 4 fluent languages,sign language, top of her class and top jyp trainee,most loved jyp trainee,composer, comedian, main vocalist, main dancer material, stage precense, visuals WOW
@thelastleaf3672 жыл бұрын
She can also rap ig...I actually said it a couple of few times but then triggered ppl under my comment are always like "sHe cAn'T wRiTe aNd pRoDuCe sOnGs"...
@xsmi48622 жыл бұрын
@@thelastleaf367 i think lily also talked abt composing songs with haewon. its also safe to assume that with such musicality and genuine knowledge of music they have, that they won’t have any problems composing
@kaushikidhupar29542 жыл бұрын
@@xsmi4862 her improv is always so cool and sounds innovative (in a musical way ) I have no doubt that lily amd haewon can compose ngl i hate their debut but the musical talent nmixx particularly haewon and lily have is rather rare they genuinely love music and showbiz I always wish them success. Some rookies nowadays are lackluster tbh and it feels like they want to be famous and have no genuine passion
@skyline62422 жыл бұрын
@@xsmi4862 don't know about haewon but lily actually has a lot of self produced & written songs pre debut she had a Spotify page for that also she sang an ost for a drama pre debut which was co written & composed by her.... she was so young back then yet she actually did a good job at making those songs pretty sure she's more than capable of producing & writing a song for nmixx
@thelastleaf3672 жыл бұрын
@@xsmi4862 why youtube is keep on deleting my comment🙂🙃
@deyoncew33112 жыл бұрын
aespa and NMIXX really brought up 4th gen's vocal reputation.
@ahmadhaikalmujahid44652 жыл бұрын
Their collab would be BOMBSSSS
@Lala-if9jq2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy that we all agree that Lily deserves the top 1 vocalist in 4th gen. Also Haewon comes 2nd, I mean theyve already proven everything during their live performance. All NMIXX members being on the list is just chefs kiss
@sidneyarevalo8562 жыл бұрын
The fact that NMIXX Haewon and Lily are both top 2 best vocalist in this generation despite them still being so young is incredible! Both Haewon and Lily are 19 (Lily is turning 20 in October) Even Kyujin, Bae, Jiwoo, Sullyoon, and Jinni are still pretty good vocalists as well! I cant wait for their next comeback! 😊
@iamk-poptrash64972 жыл бұрын
Actually Nayul is the best vocalist in this generation they forgot to add her
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Жыл бұрын
@@iamk-poptrash6497 inactive
@iamk-poptrash6497 Жыл бұрын
@@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc she’s still the best vocalist of 4th gen
@ms.schneiderman66052 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think nmixx has the best sense of pitch among the 4th gen girl group vocalists or maybe 4th gen kpop groups overall. Nonetheless, they are indeed the backbone of 4th gen kpop vocals.
@jeongloveyou81852 жыл бұрын
Good~~
@jm144092 жыл бұрын
facts! but i know some people gonna be mad 🥲
@knk47362 жыл бұрын
Fax
@Cherrygirl99992 жыл бұрын
Eh pink fantasy are top tier imo even better
@mywordsfact.60002 жыл бұрын
@@Cherrygirl9999 tell me their vocal ranges,pls? 100% members support?
@sicndjisifkskis7272 жыл бұрын
For Nswer 34.Bae 29.Jiwoo 25.Jinni 23.Sullyoon 21.Kyujin 2.Haewon 1.Lily
@mikamanurung85192 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@emil_yo2 жыл бұрын
aespa having all in Top 20 and NMIXX having the Top 2, æmixx saving 4th gen vocals 😍
@d.n.n22672 жыл бұрын
yes
@YEOUN_channel2 жыл бұрын
Should've debut both of the group together and called it "ÆMIXX" doesn't sounds too bad imo 👀
@darkmontero61312 жыл бұрын
I WANT THEM TO HAVE A COLLAB LIKE FR
@d.n.n22672 жыл бұрын
@@YEOUN_channel gosh i wouldn't have imagined that 😭✨
@David-ov8xh2 жыл бұрын
I wish we can have these type of relationshipss no fanwars and all just appreciating both groups🙌
@bbdidkdndkdk37322 жыл бұрын
Never been so excited with a vocal duo since Taeyeon and Jessica, Lily and Haewon are on fire
@SgtThidar2 жыл бұрын
Yess! Just by looking at their recent pure live duo performance in this wedding event with literally no backtrack, IEM, auto-tune, and mask on. I think no one in 4th gen idols are yet ready to cover Maktub "wedding song" except Lily and Haewon. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2rVq4uldt-KrbM
@user-tw1zv8ki9q2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard Jessica wasn’t even second best in the group but I’m not sure
@udebrl2 жыл бұрын
@@user-tw1zv8ki9q someone lied to you, Jessica always was the second best vocalist on SNSD, in their debut era the gap between Jessica and Taeyeon with the rest was very remarkable. Currently, Jessica did not improve, so Seohyun and her may be at the same level, but Jessica always had her chest voice, her mix, resonance, support and sense of pitch above everyone else except Taeyeon.
@Taeyeon892 жыл бұрын
@@udebrl Jessica’s pitch is one of the worst’s in the vocal line . And she never resonated. Where are you getting this info from? Her mid range is also not really developed either .
@udebrl2 жыл бұрын
@@Taeyeon89 my info is from a unbiased snsd vocal ranking by Sam Bradley, the response made by arieam to the video who put Jessica at 7th place in vocals and also from Kpop Analysis website. Get informed.
@user-iw5ff1vx5o2 жыл бұрын
JYPE: Here is TWICE Haters: They can't sing live. JYPE: Here is ITZY Haters: They can't sing well. JYPE: Here is NMIXX Haters: They are not from SM, so they can't sing well. JYPE: merging with SM (x
@falsefaithyx2 жыл бұрын
haters said that about nmixx?? they're like the most solid girl group vocal wise in like...years?? (might be a BIT of an exaggeration, but at least since like 2018, i feel that it's safe to say this)
@jichu_rbk84652 жыл бұрын
@@falsefaithyx I have seen multiple kpop Stan (mostly my but not only) saying that Ning Ning was obviously better than Lily and that winter was obviously better than Haewon because « they are from SM »
@falsefaithyx2 жыл бұрын
@@jichu_rbk8465 * facepalms myself * sm has good training, yes, but bru it doesn't mean that sm training is soooo great that anyone from sm is above ppl from other companies and if they put winter above lily imma just-
@KittyTsundere2 жыл бұрын
People forgetting that Wonder Girls Sunye + Yeeun and 15& exist. :3
@muhammaddandi72422 жыл бұрын
@@KittyTsundere true 😔
@YEOUN_channel2 жыл бұрын
I honestly would love to see Æspa X Nmixx vocal stage collaboration one day :(
@MilesGabrielDPerez2 жыл бұрын
YEOUNIEE!^^ Hi! Dayeon Surpass SinB does that mean Dayeon can support? Thank yaur!^^
@YEOUN_channel2 жыл бұрын
@@MilesGabrielDPerez Well as you can see , they're at the bottom of the list and most likely to be weak at their best (Although I would put SinB above her and Eunbi). Nevertheless they all are weak and interchangeable ;) Shallow support would be present but way too inconsistent and sometimes non-existent 😬
@MilesGabrielDPerez2 жыл бұрын
@@YEOUN_channel THANK YOUU!^^
@inyochayacha5482 жыл бұрын
Can I ask u who have the best vocal line Nmixx or Aespa??
@Fred-bc9ts2 жыл бұрын
Lilly and Ningning voices would complete each others so well
@oceanwave_2 жыл бұрын
As expected, all NMIXX members are on the list with two of the members claiming the top 2 spots while the rest are still in their respected ranks despite some members being sub-vocalists which is truly impressive. You were right when you said no other group comes close in the 4th gen 👏🏼 (P.S. I just wish we had more materials from them or from 4th gen groups in general lol)
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
I really think we need to give then some more time to release more proper materials. I think Kyujin, Jinni, Jiwoo and Bae can be a lot higher than what we initially think.
2 жыл бұрын
@@zhejiwooinkwangya i’m keeping an eye on jiwoo especially 👀 but keep it lowkey for now lol
2 жыл бұрын
oh just to clarify i said nobody is coming close in terms of live performance because technically we all know nmixx vs æspa is an on-going (unnecessary) bicker lol
@MoonLight-dx6gf2 жыл бұрын
@ æspa has a HUGE advantage of being a small and well rounded vocally group. The only thing that keeps them above NMIXX as a group for now is that Giselle/Karina are stronger than 5 vocalists from NMIXX
@heyash17742 жыл бұрын
@@MoonLight-dx6gf meh, they’re not that much better than the w-a nmixx girlies and they’re basically on the same tier unlike the gap between Haely and NN-Winter duo which is like 1-2 tiers. Not to mention Kyujin and Jiwoo are still very young and already this promising. Give their vocal cords a couple more years to develop.
@mywordsfact.60002 жыл бұрын
7/7 nmixx and 4/4 æspa are here. Vocal leaders
@namjoonbestleader69362 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure at Aespa but definitely yes for NMIXX.
@mywordsfact.60002 жыл бұрын
@@namjoonbestleader6936 they are all here actually
@greedgens27142 жыл бұрын
if nmixx excludes lily and haewon in their group, they will still be a group with decent vocalist right? damn adding lily and haewon to the group is really too powerful
@psychoandchill43282 жыл бұрын
no, instead they would become like every other group lol.
@francescasolarino68432 жыл бұрын
@@vintasahi I mean it's not decent, it's still below average I would say. Even in the fourth generation Main Vocalists nowadays are at least low averages. But 5/5 supporting would be impressive, yes
@liftedb95912 жыл бұрын
@@francescasolarino6843 literally where lmao? Itzy Stayc Everglow Loona Idle They are some of the most popular and they dont even have 1 average. Nmixx would have prob 2 average vocalists, Sullyoon with Bb3-Bb4 and Kyujin with A3-A4/Bb4
@francescasolarino68432 жыл бұрын
@@liftedb9591 I'm talking about new debuted groups Billlie 1 A Kep1er 1 A Classy 1 A Lesserafim 1 A Nmixx 2 AA
@racheliasaragih22042 жыл бұрын
@@francescasolarino6843 Billie Either 2 or 1.
@Useronetwothreefour2 жыл бұрын
Really Haewon and Lily topnotches the vocal category. Putting this two together is an overkill and sets them apart in the other groups.
@Useronetwothreefour2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone made a video containing the facts that nmixx and Lily and haewon are the monster vocals for this generation. It is obviously “THEM”
@Parkjin-ou6wl2 жыл бұрын
Putting lily and haewon in the same team is just wow!
@pertenezcoalilym98232 жыл бұрын
Wooooowwww🥰
@ellendegenreshater38472 жыл бұрын
it’s crazy but itzy rlly needs help in the vocal department.. so sad that they were deprived of a whole lily. (this is a joke btw i love yuna wouldn’t want in any other way)
@leonardoenrico21522 жыл бұрын
They're Taeyeon x Jessica 4th generation
@mywordsfact.60002 жыл бұрын
@@leonardoenrico2152 do u know Jessica's vocal range?
@Inthanie2 жыл бұрын
@@mywordsfact.6000 Vocal Range D3~D6 Supported Range G3/G#3~B4/C5
@dino.nuggies23822 жыл бұрын
All of purple kisses main vocals r in the top 20 Chaein-18 Swan-17 Goeun-8 And can we talk about swan in the thumbnail she looks absolutely stunning
@_eliza70052 жыл бұрын
Okay but I think Swan and Goeun deserve to higher on the list.
@dino.nuggies23822 жыл бұрын
@@_eliza7005 I mean if swan rank a little higher like 15 or 14
@boood30642 жыл бұрын
@@_eliza7005 also chaein like...
@priyankasingh14922 жыл бұрын
Yess ❤️
@mywordsfact.60002 жыл бұрын
Having 2 decent vocalists in 1 group...JYPE hit the jackpot
@marigold41352 жыл бұрын
i’m so glad chaein is better than originally thought because i’ve always loved her voice!
@soxee1182 жыл бұрын
LILY M BEST 4TH GEN. FEMALE MAIN VOCALIST
@user-tw1zv8ki9q2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to add she’s better than all the male vocalists too
@mywordsfact.60002 жыл бұрын
2 vocalists of Xdinary heroes in top5 too. Just JYPE carrying 4 gen vocal💅
@user-tw1zv8ki9q2 жыл бұрын
@@mywordsfact.6000 I find it hard to believe that 2 people from xdinary heroes have better technique than Ningning
@mywordsfact.60002 жыл бұрын
@@user-tw1zv8ki9q im saying among boy groups
@user-tw1zv8ki9q2 жыл бұрын
@@mywordsfact.6000 oh! Who would you say completes the top 5?
@slaymixxismyvibe84552 жыл бұрын
Nmixx is this crazy being just a rookie i cant imagine the power they will hold after 1-2 yrs experience in industry like im just excited to be part of their journey
@kwangyabot2 жыл бұрын
its funny seeing stans (especially gidle stans) swear their group are the best vocalists of the generation 🥴
@sf_11252 жыл бұрын
Really like with Jiwoo nmixx unique vocals.. nmixx all rounder
@potathottwit76042 жыл бұрын
I think she and bae are more of a stylistic vocalists
@aeyoona2 жыл бұрын
@@potathottwit7604 yet they still slay
@Pfecter2 жыл бұрын
Nmixx never stop singing live. That's the most important to develop your singing skill. Confident is a necessity. They will more develop as a singer 1. Lily 2. Haewon 21. Kyujin 23. Sullyoon 25. Jinni 29. Jiwoo 34. Bae Nmixx literally time bomber when they release own nation song maybe they will become one of the best girlgroup history
@imfoive9912 жыл бұрын
Is kyujin or jinni better at upper register
@davidakbar48762 жыл бұрын
@@imfoive991 kyujin already shown a connected hv so for now kyujin is better
@youtubeisntallowingmetocom90622 жыл бұрын
@@davidakbar4876 agreed!
@imfoive9912 жыл бұрын
@@davidakbar4876 oh ok thanks
@imfoive9912 жыл бұрын
@@davidakbar4876 is that the reason she is better than sullyoon?
@kalss70132 жыл бұрын
NMIXX BEST VOCAL 🔥
@soxee1182 жыл бұрын
facts
@fporsche__2 жыл бұрын
Faxx
@knk47362 жыл бұрын
Facts
@namjoonbestleader69362 жыл бұрын
@@zeroc00k14 Don't include aespa here, the comment obviously NMIXX only.
@luvnu88462 жыл бұрын
Nmixx main vocalists being top 2 is crazy
@maryn74372 жыл бұрын
NMIXX VOCALS ARE CRAZY
@knk47362 жыл бұрын
Fr
@blackwhite-xz1uc2 жыл бұрын
THE STRONGEST VOCAL DUO IN THE 4TH GEN ARE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST?!! LETS GOOOOO!!!!! SLAY GIRLIES!!
@knk47362 жыл бұрын
Slayyy
@zzz_ia2 жыл бұрын
Not all aespa and nmixx members being here💅 These two groups have such an amazing lineup
@cupcakkehighspeedrail49342 жыл бұрын
Many people have started believing that Lily is better than Ning Ning but they are still not able to believe that Haewon is also better than Ning Ning.
@boppop7172 жыл бұрын
True cause according to some delusional stan, they are both neck to neck or the same level and interchangable...
@luffytuffy83502 жыл бұрын
the only reason Ningning is lower because of the lack of materials...
@cupcakkehighspeedrail49342 жыл бұрын
@@luffytuffy8350 🤡
@boppop7172 жыл бұрын
@@luffytuffy8350 also she lacks development too
@ssamu7562 жыл бұрын
They can't accept that 2 member of JYP gg is better than the main vocal of SM gg
@Chanihyo2 жыл бұрын
woah kyujin is ranked higher than sullyoon? Girlie improved so much, so proud of her 😭❤️
@user-tw1zv8ki9q2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this ranking. Especially after hearing Giselle in their new performances. I think it would be cool if you added Seea (Pink Fantasy) to the next one though. She is better than most people on the list even if she is overshadowed by Yechan.
@naviscalling20692 жыл бұрын
Giselle isn’t even better than karina lmfao
@user-tw1zv8ki9q2 жыл бұрын
@@naviscalling2069 they are in the same tier though so they are close enough. Both powerful 4th gen sub vocalists.
@naviscalling20692 жыл бұрын
@@user-tw1zv8ki9q karina is still better, her chest development, wider support range, agility, lows, her supports sounds more full even if the notes were the same
@naviscalling20692 жыл бұрын
@@user-tw1zv8ki9q and I don’t think they’re on the same level karina is D+/C-
@user-tw1zv8ki9q2 жыл бұрын
@@naviscalling2069 so is Giselle. Even if Karina is aespa’s weakest vocalist she is still a very valuable member of the team and a true ace. You don’t need to discredit Giselle’s vocal to lift up Karina. Everyone already knows she is a strong vocalist
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
Ugh whatever I'm just not gonna put the link. Lily sang on Vlive today and her tone is seriously to die for, especially when she sings western songs. I think she does better when she sings in English. She sang a bit of Party in the USA and I think she gave her best G3~A3 so far there. Consistent head voice and mixed D5's as usual.
@shototodoroki49702 жыл бұрын
The G3 sounds good. Was it supported?
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
@@shototodoroki4970 I'd argue yes, I think it sounds better than her G3 in her predebut cover. Edit: On the fence with this now, her tonality was good, larynx wasn't lowered and sound didn't go dark but I'm open to hear what you guys think if it was supported or not.
@oceanwave_2 жыл бұрын
@@shototodoroki4970 Yes. It’s her best G3 so far.
@akukuayam90192 жыл бұрын
Yeah her best G3 so far. She retained good tonality
@AB-yk2pq2 жыл бұрын
English is her native language. She grow up listening western artists. Lily knew very little Korean on Kpop star, so she started learning it 7 or 8 years ago. She's more relaxed singing in English.
@AB-yk2pq2 жыл бұрын
As a MY, I'm rooting for Ning's improvements. I'm 110% sure she's capable of doing more than she's shown but I hope SME will give Aespa more live material this comeback. Her lows are amazing, her mix can improve and she has potential to support upper register.
@ssamu7562 жыл бұрын
Yup, she lack live material.
@AB-yk2pq2 жыл бұрын
@@ssamu756 Hopefully this comeback will have more live preformances in South Korea.
@divaqueening19402 жыл бұрын
But she already had shown supported head voice even in predebut. All her registers so far are well refined. She just need to be balance in her mix and get rid of the too much headiness.
@AB-yk2pq2 жыл бұрын
@@divaqueening1940 She probably supported upper register as kid, but as a member of Aespa she hasn't done it once. Unless some moments of OST carried support. If you asked person who casually listen Aespa, they'd say that Winter has the the best upper register in the group hence why SME needs to give them more live material.
@divaqueening19402 жыл бұрын
@@AB-yk2pq no doubt she still probably had it. Since she improved alot after predebut.
@ryanlee35142 жыл бұрын
NMIXX 34. BAE 29. JIWOO 25. JINNI 23. SULLYOON 21. KYUJIN 2. HAEWON 1. LILY OMG ALL NMIXX ARE HERE
@kaushikidhupar29542 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion I like the singing style of bae and lia with bae yeah she has alot of throat tension but her voice fits with nmixx concept she sings in cursive if I am not wrong ok she can loose that throat but retain her stylistic singing With lia I absolutely love her voice her English covers are always so good if I am not wrong she also sings in cursive and honestly she should try singing indie songs like lana del Rey she will nail it
@davidakbar48762 жыл бұрын
If i want to describe Lia tone is that her voice is so sweet soft and sticky just like honey my fav tone in kpop and lia's tone is blooming when she sing and indie english song
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
LIa's tone is honestly to die for. Her predebut cover of Where You Belong is seriously so good.
@Fred-bc9ts2 жыл бұрын
I actually understand someone seeing Giselle better than Karina. She doesn't really attempt to belt nor is she a "power house" vocalist, but she still maintains her notes relaxed, a clear tonality, having a refined sound.
@ssamu7562 жыл бұрын
Hello! Can you do a video of Nmixx Haewon vocal range? She's kinda getting overshadowed by Lily even though they're not far apart. So..
@eternalregard2 жыл бұрын
FR, and the Haewon slander is too much 💀
@divaqueening19402 жыл бұрын
i sometimes prefer haewon's belts than Lily. But thats just my preference hihi
@christoffermillerante17722 жыл бұрын
@@divaqueening1940 yes same, I think it's becuz she has a chestier approach while lily has more balanced one
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
I liked Sneakers way more than I thought. The teasers really turned me off for a moment but it ended up being good. I liked how Lia's voice sounded in the song the most.
@Jinnibitch5552 жыл бұрын
Same me too but I can’t wait for nmixx to make a comback I am tired of kpop stans especially sm stans looking down upon them I want them to come back and shut them up 😩🤞🏿
@thelastleaf3672 жыл бұрын
@@Jinnibitch555 there's rumor that NMIXX is not going to CB this year🥲
@cloudniine40472 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I would put Yechan below Haewon, but otherwise this is a SOLID rank. I personally believe Aespa will climb up the ranks as time goes by, especially Ningning (SM main vocalists are known to have a very sustainable technique). On the other hand, Ningning X Lily collab when? Year-end shows, we want to see the power ballad they would deliver.
@zenappa37382 жыл бұрын
I mean, even Taeyeon had a collab with Sunye when they were rookies (with davichi) So maybe fingerscrossed, this year (except SM being a d*ck, and send out Winter bcs Ningning is foreigner)
@ashlynx73172 жыл бұрын
NMIXX on top A rookie gg did that
@felineprincess9992 жыл бұрын
æspa having their weakest vocalists dominating top 20 while their stronger singers dominating top 10 is already impressive. And cmon, why are people acting as if they didnt continue the SM tradition of having strong a vocalline. Bcs they did, and that itself is impressive. These girls are already this talented, what more on the upcoming years!!! IMO, æspa's dynamic as a group is my most favorite, its like they are made to be with each other. Their dynamic and chemistry as group is evident in savage and next level, I love how they use themselves mixing their vocals. The fact theyre already this good, how much can they be on the upcoming years. Im keeping an eye on them.
@aedc172 жыл бұрын
it's so sad that people automatically assume someone is bad just because others are better lol. ofc haely are a stronger vocal line, but that doesn't mean aespa's vocal line is weak😭 and as a whole group they are definitely somewhere on the top when it comes to vocals. and I'm pretty sure once we get more materials from all of them we will be suprised, cuz I'm convinced that they haven't shown their full potential yet
@felineprincess9992 жыл бұрын
@@aedc17 people are blinded by this ranking system (Not against it tho, i support OP analysing and updating kpop vocalists) that they tend to forget that at the end of the day, these higher ranked vocalists are still great singers with great technique👍 And even on the lower ranked ones, theyre still great singers and they communicate to the audiences with their gorgeous voices. Thats whats important, tho im not invalidating the essence of proper technique
@thelastleaf3672 жыл бұрын
@@aedc17 lmao no one thinks that Aespa's vocal line is weak....
@justanoerfan15722 жыл бұрын
@@thelastleaf367 infact aespa's vocal line can be on par with red velvet in a few years
@aedc172 жыл бұрын
@@thelastleaf367 what I wanted to express is that mys often feel offended when someone says lily is better than Ning, bcs they assume that that means they are saying she is bad. I guess I couldnt get my point across😭
@sosmiss91472 жыл бұрын
I need duo lily and haewon stage performance as an idol not as a wedding singer
@ssamu7562 жыл бұрын
Lol HAHAAH they're doing it so they can feed their kids
@knk47362 жыл бұрын
HELP
@Noname-of8hg2 жыл бұрын
Nmixx is giving me so much Exo vibe 😆
@AB-yk2pq2 жыл бұрын
Did you guys hear Giselle's cover of Shake it off by Mariah that she posted month ago on Bubble? Honestly her and Karina's tones are my favourite in Aespa and I wish Giselle was given more lines in this comeback.
@cutiieeepatootieee20022 жыл бұрын
she showcased some g#3s there and supported all of em
@randomlyhere1112 жыл бұрын
Nmixx and aespa supremacy
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
Little cliff notes: - The singers in rank 49-42 are all Non-vocalist singers, their rank is pretty much interchangeable and it really doesn't matter as their technique in general is just too inconsistent and support quality is shallower than a kiddie pool. - The point above also applies to singers in ranks 41-31, theyre in weak tier and all interchangeable. - In general the rankings and given tiers all really do NOT matter. The most important part about these videos is the analysis and a real discussion on the technique of these singers. Some of you look too much into rankings that you're willing to forgive very clear issues and technicalities for the sake of trying to keep up with a ranking or underestimate so many of these perfectly capable IDOL SINGERS because of their ranking. And these rankings are literally made by kpop fans, in theory you can literally make your own ranking system, its just THAT unimportant. Personal cliff notes: - I agree Ningning's performances haven't been the strongest as we'd assume but I don't think it's enough to question her consistency just yet. Personally I don't hear anything much different because in her B4~C#5 range. Her support quality has always just been "passable" and its literally just that, soft, heady and light in coordination. It's just that it's more apparent now because they don't have a loud backtrack/prerecorded track drowning out her voice in recent live performances. Her performances in general sound literally exactly the same as before (Ningning in Jimmy Kimmel live & both days of the LA showcases are all light and soft in approach just like in radio interviews, encores, etc.) so I really don't notice the "stark" difference that makes her ranking "questionable" as some of you guys are mentioning. If she truly shows something different, whether we did end up overestimating her or she actually presents something stronger in the upcoming comeback, I'll stand by this. #NingningforPresident - I'm open to the idea of Giselle having the slight edge over Karina cuz I do agree she has some clean, strong notes even up to Bb4, but I think we need to give more time for Giselle to actually start singing some more challenging lines live to make something like that set in stone. In general, we're a bit too hasty with ranking and analyzing singers and it's causing some huge confusion and misinformation to spread. One of the established rules of KVA (the system all of us are kinda using rn) was to not analyze newly debuted idols and atleast wait a few YEARS (not months y'all, years😭😭) to properly get enough content to analyze. My suggestion really is to remove like half of these girlies of the ranking and focus on the singers with enough content and/or WAIT a bit longer before we start putting ppl in rankings.
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
not this bitch writing a whole thesis chile...
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
@@kaushikidhupar2954 THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU MAKING ME CRY 😭💝💝💝
@Empyrean.1272 жыл бұрын
For realllll. Can we let newly debuted vocalists breathe and perform before passing judgment on their vocal abilities? It’s not that serious.
@paledangels2 жыл бұрын
jiwoo in kwangya spilled
@zett18072 жыл бұрын
I would disagree with placing Giselle over Karina for now. In spite of her messiness, Karina still has a more developed chest engagement which is enough to put her above around this level. I think there are better instances but they’re singing side by side here which gives a clearer view kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6eveKyGaa94jsk when both of them are phrasing those G#4’s, it takes less effort/is quite easier for Karina to produce it with more fullness and a chestier coordination, while Giselle still sounds thinner around here. Karina’s problem is a bit like Jessica… well not really… it’s a bit less isolated I suppose where her issue is the quality of support between her lighter sound and the bolder one, but she retains it well enough in the bolder approach (it’s usually the ambitious runs for her level she tries to apply that makes it sound more all over the place) at least better than what Giselle can manage for now, Karina has better attempts on B4’s as well which doesn’t seem to be entirely flukes so far, by extension the placement on her C5/C#5 are not bad as well.
@divaqueening19402 жыл бұрын
Thats what I thought too,
2 жыл бұрын
it’s alright, they’re right next to each other and in the same tier so essentially there’s not much of a gap between them at all. also, just so you know, i was waiting for you ahah love how you will always come up with something i haven’t noticed, but this time around i’ll stand by saying giselle has shown way cleaner approach and karina Bs, well, i would say they’re ‘flukes’ or at least not much of a quirk tbh, because i’m not hearing near as good quality and consistency on her Bb4 ~ B4 range relatively to how she does bellow it. in her case that chestiness is overrated personally lol it’s not like she manages a clear belting, it’s all nasal and verge stuck in some instances so how loud she is projecting or how much chest presence there is in her mix should not be praised for now imo ^^
@justanoerfan15722 жыл бұрын
@ I believe that kyujin sullyoon Giselle and Karina , are on the Same and pretty much interchangeable right? Only time and more content will tell
@davidakbar48762 жыл бұрын
@@justanoerfan1572 jinni sullyoon can be interchangeable if jinni use the same sing approach when she sing mama in her predebut cover and for sullyoon i think she's need too leave her light approach so she can get more fuller on her support
@andinho22042 жыл бұрын
The forever Bb4s could be an example of that aswell, right? kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3nSho2medKCh5I Giselle's phrased Bb4 at 0:50 sounded more stuck and pushed if compared to Karina's one at 3:18, the difference ain't big tho
@ashley-gu4yw2 жыл бұрын
chaehyun from kep1er is truly so over hated. she is the only one with consistent support so i have no idea why fans/antis claim she’s weak.
@timara7212 жыл бұрын
All that just because she cracked her voice
@SgtThidar2 жыл бұрын
If akgaes coming for her vocal idk. She is the only one who carried Kepler vocal, meanwhile the others 💀
@breats47032 жыл бұрын
@@SgtThidar what is akgae?
@breats47032 жыл бұрын
@@imaddictedtoaespagirls1237 thanks
@KittyTsundere2 жыл бұрын
@@imaddictedtoaespagirls1237 I wouldn’t say akgae = solo stan, but more like toxic solo stan.
@potathottwit76042 жыл бұрын
I know that Lily and Haewon is up there, I just know. I really want JYPE and SQU4D to release more contents of them singing and give us a comeback that suits the girls vocal range. I really can't wait for Lily and Haewon's improvement since Haewon is moving up. I really think that they should push Kyujin and Jiwoo to be lead vocalists. Bae is ok but her being a stylistic vocalists is not my thing, she's more on throaty but she's really good with her lows. Sullyoon kinda gets nasally or ist it just me??? Anyway, proud to see NMIXX having support eventhough 2 of them are shallow. Still waiting for NMIXX's upgrade since they're in their prime vocal era😂♥️
@anemojin43842 жыл бұрын
Nmixx summer cover song soon!
@potathottwit76042 жыл бұрын
@@anemojin4384 Ah yes! They'll be participating in a summer vacation kpop song cover with oh my girl and fromis_9 and they're also included in Jakarta kpop concert on Nov 12. Hopefully we can get more live materials from them to see their vocal improvements
@ourcutenessoverloadlia74882 жыл бұрын
Both my best iconic duo lily and haewon just *UNBELIEVABLE*
@chumdol57232 жыл бұрын
JYP really hit the jackpot with NMIXX. All of the members are main vocal material
@f1owerfield2 жыл бұрын
yechan, jiwon, haewon, and lily deserve their spots so much
@skyline62422 жыл бұрын
this will probably reach outside the vocal community due to the style of this vid so your comment section is about to become hell 💀 praying for you🙏
@KittyTsundere2 жыл бұрын
Gawd…imagine if soo did a BG version of this one considering the GG one already…😬
@KittyTsundere2 жыл бұрын
@@vintasahi Oh gawd, now you mention them, as someone who actually commented there (and even got harassed over there in one of them as well), the comment sections of these videos were quite traumatizing (and it’s one group each already). 🙈 Lmao I felt really bad for V (esp) and Sunoo over there.
@KittyTsundere2 жыл бұрын
@@vintasahi Also don’t forget Himi’s NCT vocal ranking as well. Himi also got hate from delusional stans including xenophobic/racist accusations (which were definitely more extreme) because he ranked Xiaojun, Ten, Chenle, Renjun, and Kun lower than they expected lmao.
@knk47362 жыл бұрын
Same
@sage_zv2 жыл бұрын
The HAEvenLY Vocal Duo of 4th Gen
@breats47032 жыл бұрын
Ngl, but PK's Swan's tone is really good. I'm a big fan of her tone
@KittyTsundere2 жыл бұрын
She kind of reminds me a bit of now-Hwasa tbh (that same company influence ig lmao)
@adisappointment34532 жыл бұрын
she's a low average vocalist when it comes to technique but jesus fucking christ she understood the assignment fully when it comes to stylistic singing
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
hope sootzubae adds JYP in the future weekly update. He can produce resonance down to -G3 and produce whistle tones up to F32. His agility is also really good, he can run up to 32 notes in 0 seconds, he's just that good and fast. He also doesn't shout his notes like Lily ☠☠
@SoulVelvet2 жыл бұрын
He can support G5s as a dramatic mezzo soprano-baritone hybrid!
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
@@SoulVelvet like who's doing it like him
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
@@vintasahi never!!! no trace of autotune live at all 😁☝🏿
@witchofbabylon50212 жыл бұрын
He can also switch between chest voice, head voice, falsetto, and pancreas voice within .6 seconds! His vocal control is insane
@eternalregard2 жыл бұрын
@@SoulVelvet the hybrid is sending me 😭😂
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
Mindblown 😭 These are some really unexpected rankings
@noonnight80372 жыл бұрын
All æspa member in TOP 20 👏 NMIXX's Main Vocalist save the TOP 2 👏 æMIXX really save the this generation's VOCAL ❤️❤️❤️
@youtubeisntallowingmetocom90622 жыл бұрын
YESSSS
@dhy01142 жыл бұрын
Hey there are also Nayul (12dal) and yechan (pink fantasy)…
@@dhy0114 but 12dal unofficially disbanded I guess,bc they didn't have comeback more than year and they are not active
@ヒソカモロウ-s1f2 жыл бұрын
When toxic fans will say "LiLy's VoCaL iS oVeRrAtEd","tHeY aRe FrOm JyPe",I'll send them this video
@KittyTsundere2 жыл бұрын
Ngl. She's probably one of the most over-hated idol vocalists in the 4th gen IMO.
@pleasestopyourscaringme71632 жыл бұрын
@@fryfly3473 yeah I agree she’s not overrated, but people will try to down play her by saying she’s just “shouting” or “loud” or cause she’s not from sm
@modainvierno81862 жыл бұрын
Haewon y Lily probablemente el dúo vocal más poderoso de la 4 gen
@fragilepinks2 жыл бұрын
Wait so you're saying haely are definitely the strongest vocal duo in kpop?😭🖐️ Joke hahahahaha, but anyways Stan nmixx!!!!!
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
4th gen definitely
@soxee1182 жыл бұрын
in 4th gen, they are 🥰
@Pfecter2 жыл бұрын
your name 🤣
@kwangyabot2 жыл бұрын
its impressive how chaewon managed to improve in HYBE of all places lmao i hope she can improve even more to atleast be a low W-A
@KittyTsundere2 жыл бұрын
and HYBE is well-known to not train their vocalists well lmao. 💀
@anemojin43842 жыл бұрын
i mean they're not hybe hybe, remember she is in Source music
@kwangyabot2 жыл бұрын
@@anemojin4384 idt soumu has excellent vocal training either since 5/6 of gfriend are all underdeveloped and yuju recived vocal training from elsewhere i belive
@anemojin43842 жыл бұрын
@@kwangyabot But still they had yuju so it isn't farfetched that they at least train their vocalist (even if it is only one great one and they eventually destroyed her voice) Hybe has pledis too but that's not saying much since hybe pulled a disney on them instead of them being already in house idols.
@felineprincess9992 жыл бұрын
They say veins popping in ur neck is a sign of bad technique But i saw singers who are known to have great technique had veins popping off their neck, like J-hud, whitney houston, toni braxton, mariah carey, aretha etc had veins popping off when they belt. So what is the real meaning behind it???
@YEOUN_channel2 жыл бұрын
Not really a sign of bad technique. It's just they're tensing up a bit (in simple words)
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
It's just a sign of some tension. It might be an indication for strain but that's only on extreme cases
@SoulVelvet2 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain here why Lily gets called shouty and extremely loud? She’s not especially chesty, the placement is bright and her voice is very girly and light. If she’s “shouty and too loud” heavier and bigger voices like Seo Moontak, Solji and Ock Joohyun must seem like a moon destroying sonic boom.
@breats47032 жыл бұрын
I've always seen that phrase by antis. I don't think anyone thats not an antis called her shouty.
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
It's just antis excuse with her. Her voice is really open and she projects loudly so ppl just say anything to say something 😕
@quanrui-e9v2 жыл бұрын
it's not even worth explaining because her antis, mostly insecure mys, only said that to "drag" her which makes them sound so stupid
@Empyrean.1272 жыл бұрын
It probably doesn’t help that in reference to O.O, she’s singing for life with E5 and above lol. Homegirl is doing fine, but JYPE could lay off on making her sing that high for NMIXX’s next comeback.
@himi_2 жыл бұрын
"moon destroying sonic boom" 💀
@cutiieeepatootieee20022 жыл бұрын
i’ve been re-educated about vocal pedagogy and i agree that miyeon is the best 4th gen vocalist. tbh, she gives people like the trinity a run for their money 🫢🫣
@Sylvaincks2 жыл бұрын
Tbh the trinity always scream... High notes don't make you better 😌
@Jade_dreamingforever2 жыл бұрын
Who are the trinity
@culturedswine40032 жыл бұрын
She set the standard for all of the sm wannabes like kyuhyun and Lina. Also, can we talk about Ailee always copying her style???
@cutiieeepatootieee20022 жыл бұрын
@@Sylvaincks miyeon has fuller and more depth lows than celine, bigger resonance in her belts and headvoice than whitney, more agile and better execution of whistles than mariah. she’s literally outslaying them
@cutiieeepatootieee20022 жыл бұрын
@@vintasahi these gurlies are not even comparable to her
@KittyTsundere2 жыл бұрын
Since it’s related to Purple Kiss (who are in the video), updated RBW (minus VRomance since I need to investigate their shit and I haven’t done it yet) rankings + updated estimated supported ranges + tiers for ONEUS and MAMAMOO members (since they’re my ults) and basing on sootzubae’s Purple Kiss rankings too 1. Solar: G#3/A3 - C5/C#5 (High Above Average) 2. Yonghoon 3. Wheein: G#3/A3 - B4/C5 (Mid-High Average to Above Average) 4. Hwasa: A3/Bb3 - B4/C5 (Mid-High Average to Above Average) 5. Goeun 6. Seoho: E3/F3-F4/F#4 (Low or Low-Mid Average; also it coulddddd be a stylistic choice (most likely is), but also a little noticeable airiness/breathiness in his lows and mid-range at times (don’t think it’s a red flag problem, but something to note about also considering his lacking (in consistency and fullness) chest (TA) engagement/coordination lol)) 7. Swan (knew she wasn’t that shallow, at least not compared to fellow labelmate Keonhee lmao) 8. Chaein 9. Moonbyul: G3/G#3 - G4/G#4 (Mid-Low Weak-to-Average; she’s airy yea, but she’s more solid than Keonhee from what I can see so far with limited materials) 10. Keonhee: E3/F3 - E4/F4 (Fringing Mid-Low or even just Low Weak-to-Average since he’s pretty shallow most of the time with fuller moments very occasionally; also noticeable jaw tension at times too; Treasure Yedam also has this same issue (jaw tension) as well) 11. Dongmyeong (?) 12. Leedo: N/A (Underdeveloped) 13. The rest (though for ONEUS, last time, I ranked Hwanwoong below Xion and Ravn but then looked into more material and turned out that he has better vocal closure/connection than the two with questionable but still shallow moments here and there, but to be safe, he’s still interchangeable with the two since none of them have the basics down anyways) ***EDIT: I forgot Dongmyeong (Xion’s twin), whoops lmao. ***EDIT 2: never mind, found some nice E3’s from Seoho though still inconsistent lol. Giving him E3 back lol.
@user-iw5ff1vx5o2 жыл бұрын
I heard people said Wheein > Solar in the past but Wheein has regressed a bit. Is this true?
@justanoerfan15722 жыл бұрын
@@user-iw5ff1vx5o either that or solar improved 🤷
@inyochayacha5482 жыл бұрын
@@user-iw5ff1vx5o Wheein regressed
@KittyTsundere2 жыл бұрын
@@user-iw5ff1vx5o Yea Wheein regressed by a tad amount: loss of resonance, coordination, support, consistency, and development. She used to support G#3/A3-C5/C#5 with strong support and coordination and (pushed) resonance with nice chest (TA) engagement/coordination even though she had her nasal moments as well. Now, she’s too light with no recent moments of resonance with slightly weaker support (though not weak or shallow, just not as strong as it used to be anymore) on G#3/A3-B4/C5 with even inconsistencies on B4/C5 and glaring nasality/nose projection.
@liftedb95912 жыл бұрын
Solar is fully consistent on C#5, but she doesnt have G#3. Wheein is fully consistent with G#3-B4/C5, she is low above average. I dont think Hwasa consistency on A3 should be questioned either.
@mylastnameissugarcube76832 жыл бұрын
I actually respect this list very much 👍
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
Giselle over Karina is... not that shocking to me, I do agree that she's a lot cleaner than what I initially thought. But idk personally I'd wait a little more time to pass. It's not that far fetched though cuz Karina isn't as consistent with her support as I initially thought too.
@andinho22042 жыл бұрын
Could you give me examples of Karina's inconsistent moments? That would help me a lot
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
@@andinho2204 The performances they gave at the 2 day LA Aespa showcase and Jimmy Kimmel Live are my biggest gripes personally. (Can't link YT doesnt let me 😭). Its the case where her voice audibly thins out and her nasality catches up and she isnt carrying weight to her voice like she does when she supports her notes. (Yk like she usually does when she goes shallow)
@andinho22042 жыл бұрын
@@zhejiwooinkwangya Compared to Giselle they kinda sounded pretty similar. I still feel like Karina has some better attempts overall and i wouldn't place Giselle higher than her or any of the nmixx girls asdide from Bae and Jiwoo ofc, but ig it's all kinda debateable cuz they're all more or less neck to neck?
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
@@andinho2204 Yeah there's minimal difference between W-A girlies. I still have my skeptics but tbh I'm open to the idea of Giselle being stronger than what we initially thought.
@andinho22042 жыл бұрын
@@zhejiwooinkwangya She is def better than what the thought, but i don't think she edges the higher w-a girls
@MrJay8222 жыл бұрын
If I had to guess the top 5 vocal lines of 4th gen it’d be 12dal, nmixx, aespa, pink fantasy and then purple kiss?? (And Weeekly isn’t far behind) Please correct me if I’m wrong Edit: I’ve heard Billie might be good too (Haram: 1 A and Suhyeon, Moon Sua: 2 W-A) Can anyone confirm?
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I guess that would be right since PK's vocalist are all within top 20
@d.n.n22672 жыл бұрын
yesss
@d.n.n22672 жыл бұрын
@@leedosbf agree
@user-tw1zv8ki9q2 жыл бұрын
Dreamnote has 2 A tier and Class:y may very well too (at least one A and 3 WA)
@MrJay8222 жыл бұрын
@@user-tw1zv8ki9q Ahhh I’ve haven’t heard dreamnote’s music, if I recall, Lara is their strongest right? And yes i forgot about class:y! (they’re still new but promising) Would you say theyre at least better than pk or weeekly?
2 жыл бұрын
*guys!* well at least those whose come here daily
2 жыл бұрын
@@vintasahi those are already ranked :( edited the main comment just to be clearer ahah @Kaushiki Dhupar haven’t heard the album yet but my guess is no… if there’s anything worth i’ll have her on the next update for sure!
@pauhernandez84812 жыл бұрын
@ maybe zin from bugaboo, she is at least an w-a vocalist
@lavidasintea65612 жыл бұрын
Minji from secret number maybe?
@MrJay8222 жыл бұрын
Definitely minji from secret number! Oh Ella of pixy, along with Lara and Miso of Dreamnote! Here some links to Lara and Miso as I'm assuming they're the least known out of all the vocalists I listed: Lara: (Theres more but these are my favorites): kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZS0paaElpeSkLM kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIfFmGZvq9CYgZo kzbin.info/www/bejne/il69dmqraZhpas0 Miso: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXmcgGSKoM6tbqM kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnjYnaSMfrV6bpI kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYOkp6ajlM-io6c
@bienfufu37622 жыл бұрын
SeeA from Pink Fantasy
@eternalregard2 жыл бұрын
omg, an updated ranking finally 😁
@imwinter5992 жыл бұрын
Nmixx will be the best gg of the future, I'm so lucky to hear Lily and Haewon's excellent vocals, Sullyoon's excellent visuals and vocals, Jinni, Kyujin and Jiwoo's excellent rap and dance, Bae's excellent voice, dance, rap .
@oncedesu2872 жыл бұрын
damn, I effin hate how nmixx is brutally underrated in kpop scene when their vocals are this good. didn't even expect haewon to be better than yechan. stan nmixx y'all!!!
@anemojin43842 жыл бұрын
because: Questionable Debut had they debuted a not so experimental song then they would be monster rookies
@oncedesu2872 жыл бұрын
@@anemojin4384 fair enough, that's actually sad cuz they deserve better than jyp's experimental failures😭
@anemojin43842 жыл бұрын
@@oncedesu287 now let's hope the comeback would become a "cheer up" "Wannabe" or "Dun dun" moment where they skyrocket astronomically
@potathottwit76042 жыл бұрын
1.) A questionable debut song. 2.) Other kpop stans overlook them because they're from "JYP" and Twice, Stray Kids, and ITZY get dragged because they lack of vocal skills. 3.) Mostly toxic MY's are their no1. hater and toxic SM stans (like why do they even stan the company??)
@votingbot24462 жыл бұрын
@@potathottwit7604 I have to agree, JYPE's reputation in the vocal department is what made nmixx underrated, aside from their debut song.
@_EllaLost2 жыл бұрын
yayy billlie haram :))) too often do i see everyone exclude her from great vocalist lists and she definitely deserves to be recognized as one of the best ones out there
@twicenmixx69452 жыл бұрын
I'm addicted to Lily singing SORRY NOT SORRY
@KittyTsundere2 жыл бұрын
That D5 from her in that cover was very nice. :D
@myns122 жыл бұрын
Fr
@twicenmixx69452 жыл бұрын
I'm addicted to kyujin singing peaches
@SoulVelvet2 жыл бұрын
With NN her problem is not range, she’s still G3-C5/C#5 with some head voice. The reason she’s stuck in A-AA bc her entire range lacks development and stronger support. You can compare her lower range and mid range to Solji. Even on simple notes like C4, NN sounds significantly less full and strong and her lows are way less projected and full. Her issues are even more apparent in belting. Kei, Seunghee, Minseo, etc. have stronger coordination. NN is pretty close to Jess/Seohyun. Jessica is near the bottom of A-AA yet has roughly G3/G#3-C5 because of similar lack of stronger development and coordination.
@butterflysdaydream29442 жыл бұрын
Jessica had resonance tho
@akukuayam90192 жыл бұрын
@@butterflysdaydream2944 I think OP means post-SNSD Jessica
@butterflysdaydream29442 жыл бұрын
@@akukuayam9019 oh that makes sense then, cause snsd jessica had resonance and a strong coordination
@camiloh24432 жыл бұрын
I'm a hardcore Plory and I didn't expect to see the Purki girls that high 😯 Slayy
@Blossom_66552 жыл бұрын
I love watching your analysis and rankings even though I don't know vocal techniques. This ranking was 100% agreeable. Loved the editing and I was swaying to the girls lovely voices the whole video💗
@cxmifr2 жыл бұрын
NMIXX SWEEPING THE LIST AS THEY SHOULD!!
@iamk-poptrash64972 жыл бұрын
You Forgot Nayul She’s Literally the best vocalist of 4th Gen She’s B/B+ She’s On Same Level As Wendy & Taeyeon
@Dimyixx2 жыл бұрын
Bcuz of all the live performances aespa has been getting (thank God) NingNing B4s is getting better and better, one day she would truly achieve a resonance B4😩
@davidakbar48762 жыл бұрын
Ok i just look at yuna cover that called kiss me by sixpance and yeaa back then i always thought that yuna is the best after lia and now i'm preatty suree yuna is second best vocalist in itzy and girl really need to leave her cute approach so she can start to support in that cover she start to use a lil bolder approach
@KittyTsundere2 жыл бұрын
There were attempts/questionable moments here and there when she’s not doing that cutesy approach, but still very weak grasp at best (she’s inconsistent with it too, one moment she would be bolder than usual and then the next, she slips into that cutesy approach again). She would fall under non-vocalist tier below SinB.
2 жыл бұрын
personally her singing is still rather chopped / unconnected. she is just singing in a comfortable set and range
@bigmamafan17732 жыл бұрын
I still find her a bit weaker than Yeji/Chaeryeong based on how they sing the same part.
@alaaye52372 жыл бұрын
I'm pleasantly suprised by the fact that Kim Dayeon is here lmao. She's my bias and I love her voice but the fandom doesn't consider her to be a vocalist. Especially since she's a main rapper and main dancer already but I'm glad someone acknowledges her potential!
@votingbot24462 жыл бұрын
I think that's one of the reasons why WakeOne is pushing her. I mean, we all know that in the process of making an album, you are still going to compete with your members when it comes to lines, and the producers are often pleased with her. It's not her fault their faves are not getting that much, it's up to the producers and choreographers to distribute it. I don't get why they always blame her for that.
@BAZVOCALS2 жыл бұрын
You all would rather die than live a day without a ranking Jesus 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@eternalregard2 жыл бұрын
noooooo 🤣🤣🤣 but tbh, you spilled 😗
2 жыл бұрын
partially on you for confirming my thoughts on giselle ahhahah 😘
@andinho22042 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmrMe317pNSkoKs#t=1m14s kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJSqmqR7dt6bjs0#t=0m37s Recent singing materials from Nayeon that i just wanted to share :P
@hiiuma7292 жыл бұрын
The first clip has nice A4s, I didn’t like the second clip since she sounds a bit fuzzy / stuck
@andinho22042 жыл бұрын
@@hiiuma729 She sounds "bolder" in the 1st one, probably to fit the sound of the song more. I hope they release more of those cuz she had nice moments in the G3~Bb4 area on studio so i wanted to hear how she'll sound live
@inyochayacha5482 жыл бұрын
Any improvements??
@andinho22042 жыл бұрын
@@inyochayacha548 not that i noticed, just her usual approach
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
Sounds realllll nice especially the A4's this time around
I find it extremely upsetting that SME is barely giving us any vocal content. It's so sad, the aespa girls are such a vocally strong group and they could showcase that so much more, but for some reason SM doesn't really give them any chance to show that outside of their releases. I really think they are kind of "wasting" their talent here. They could put out so much content. I don't necessarily need them to sing live on music shows like all the time (would be nice if they did it from time to time though), but it would be super cool, if the members could release covers here on youtube (individually/duets). Or simply vocal performance videos for their bsides. All we get these days are just short clips that the girls share on Bubble and if we are extremely lucky, we get to hear them a little bit on radio shows. But I really wanna hear more from the girls and I feel like the girls would also be happy to showcase their vocals more. I'm constantly thinking about how the girls mention their go to karaoke songs in interviews, but the fact that the probability as of now that we will actually hear them sing those songs is so low, makes me super sad and upset😭 I don't want to come across as "needy" or anything, but I'm really desperately waiting for them to give us more exposure to their beautiful voices. With that being said, have a nice day/night y'all. I'm off to manift now🕯
@AB-yk2pq2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I wouldn't even mind lip syncing on music shows if we had acoustic live preformances of songs like ICU, Life's too short and Lucid Dream. Also Aespa didn't have single full radio preformances of their comebacks ever since they had debuted.
@mambatheestallion15962 жыл бұрын
Yall can complain with ningning's light approach but I personally like it tho. Her highnotes sounded easy and low that fooled myself that I can hit it lol, while winter makes highnotes sound too high and hard(no shade) Her light approach reminds me of ari so much. Both can effortlessly belt highnotes with minimal strain
@ssamu7562 жыл бұрын
Winter highnotes sounds too piercing
@SgtThidar2 жыл бұрын
Welp no shiet if you compared NN to Winter in term of high notes. We already know the answer 💀
@tinnn7772 жыл бұрын
i love haram's voice she deserves her spot in here
@thelastleaf3672 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me wonder girls supported range and their tiers...?
We always discuss abt aespa's vocal abilities objectively. But lemme open up my opinions on their tone. Ningning; buttery, bright and sugary Winter: metallic, icy and bright Karina: heavy but warm and fudgy Giselle: sweet and clear as a crystal.
@zhejiwooinkwangya2 жыл бұрын
Yeaaa Giselle's tone is very smooth and crisp
@Fred-bc9ts2 жыл бұрын
very accurate
@Fred-bc9ts2 жыл бұрын
@@zhejiwooinkwangya my fav tone of whole 4th gen
@paledangels2 жыл бұрын
described winter so well, she's also more bolder than ningning in terms of approach tbh
@eternalregard2 жыл бұрын
perfect for aespa 💗
@twice7thyear3542 жыл бұрын
I was curious on how Karina does during live performances, I am under the impression that she sings like an average vocalist in studio (she still can have issues with pushing) but can get shallow in her midrange sometimes during informal & casual settings like fancalls or bubble, does she still keep this shallowness during Coachella, LA Showcase, Jimmy Kimmel, & GMA? I think I remember reading a comment of yours saying that she was messy during her run in Life’s Too Short in live performances & that it screamed shallow but I think it makes sense because she just throws the notes around during live riffs/runs but I think that’s just her lacking proper control over herself during more complex runs for someone at her level, not necessarily to do with her being incapable of fully supporting those notes (up until B4) if it wasn’t apart of a run/riff, please correct me as I’m not an expert and this is based off what I’ve read in the comments here and on your community posts, thank you for your time to whoever reads this!
@divaqueening19402 жыл бұрын
Can we stop overusing the word resonance. Resonance is more than a chesty/balanced belt with ringing quality😭
@SoulVelvet2 жыл бұрын
To resonate you have to have open, rounded vowels as well (which most AA lack). Even P vocalists don’t resonate every in song and some don’t resonate at all like Wendy. Resonance is much rarer than originally thought. Lily hasn’t resonated. NN hasn’t either.
@cutiieeepatootieee20022 жыл бұрын
@Czennen sadge we only have one representative in this department lmao 😩
@user-tw1zv8ki9q2 жыл бұрын
Did Yechan regress?
@Douchifer2 жыл бұрын
@@user-tw1zv8ki9q she did, sadly.
@user-tw1zv8ki9q2 жыл бұрын
@@Douchifer I thought she was always in AA tier. Did she just move from higher to lower?