K-POP VOCAL RANKING: 4th Generation Female Vocalists 「NMIXX, ÆSPA, Kep1er, Purple Kiss, Fromis_9 +」

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@xsmi4862
@xsmi4862 2 жыл бұрын
isn’t HAEWON one of the best aces kpop has ever had? that girl can even act, mc, speak 4 fluent languages,sign language, top of her class and top jyp trainee,most loved jyp trainee,composer, comedian, main vocalist, main dancer material, stage precense, visuals WOW
@thelastleaf367
@thelastleaf367 2 жыл бұрын
She can also rap ig...I actually said it a couple of few times but then triggered ppl under my comment are always like "sHe cAn'T wRiTe aNd pRoDuCe sOnGs"...
@xsmi4862
@xsmi4862 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelastleaf367 i think lily also talked abt composing songs with haewon. its also safe to assume that with such musicality and genuine knowledge of music they have, that they won’t have any problems composing
@kaushikidhupar2954
@kaushikidhupar2954 2 жыл бұрын
@@xsmi4862 her improv is always so cool and sounds innovative (in a musical way ) I have no doubt that lily amd haewon can compose ngl i hate their debut but the musical talent nmixx particularly haewon and lily have is rather rare they genuinely love music and showbiz I always wish them success. Some rookies nowadays are lackluster tbh and it feels like they want to be famous and have no genuine passion
@skyline6242
@skyline6242 2 жыл бұрын
@@xsmi4862 don't know about haewon but lily actually has a lot of self produced & written songs pre debut she had a Spotify page for that also she sang an ost for a drama pre debut which was co written & composed by her.... she was so young back then yet she actually did a good job at making those songs pretty sure she's more than capable of producing & writing a song for nmixx
@thelastleaf367
@thelastleaf367 2 жыл бұрын
@@xsmi4862 why youtube is keep on deleting my comment🙂🙃
@deyoncew3311
@deyoncew3311 2 жыл бұрын
aespa and NMIXX really brought up 4th gen's vocal reputation.
@ahmadhaikalmujahid4465
@ahmadhaikalmujahid4465 2 жыл бұрын
Their collab would be BOMBSSSS
@Lala-if9jq
@Lala-if9jq 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy that we all agree that Lily deserves the top 1 vocalist in 4th gen. Also Haewon comes 2nd, I mean theyve already proven everything during their live performance. All NMIXX members being on the list is just chefs kiss
@sidneyarevalo856
@sidneyarevalo856 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that NMIXX Haewon and Lily are both top 2 best vocalist in this generation despite them still being so young is incredible! Both Haewon and Lily are 19 (Lily is turning 20 in October) Even Kyujin, Bae, Jiwoo, Sullyoon, and Jinni are still pretty good vocalists as well! I cant wait for their next comeback! 😊
@iamk-poptrash6497
@iamk-poptrash6497 2 жыл бұрын
Actually Nayul is the best vocalist in this generation they forgot to add her
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Жыл бұрын
​@@iamk-poptrash6497 inactive
@iamk-poptrash6497
@iamk-poptrash6497 Жыл бұрын
@@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc she’s still the best vocalist of 4th gen
@ms.schneiderman6605
@ms.schneiderman6605 2 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think nmixx has the best sense of pitch among the 4th gen girl group vocalists or maybe 4th gen kpop groups overall. Nonetheless, they are indeed the backbone of 4th gen kpop vocals.
@jeongloveyou8185
@jeongloveyou8185 2 жыл бұрын
Good~~
@jm14409
@jm14409 2 жыл бұрын
facts! but i know some people gonna be mad 🥲
@knk4736
@knk4736 2 жыл бұрын
Fax
@Cherrygirl9999
@Cherrygirl9999 2 жыл бұрын
Eh pink fantasy are top tier imo even better
@mywordsfact.6000
@mywordsfact.6000 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cherrygirl9999 tell me their vocal ranges,pls? 100% members support?
@sicndjisifkskis727
@sicndjisifkskis727 2 жыл бұрын
For Nswer 34.Bae 29.Jiwoo 25.Jinni 23.Sullyoon 21.Kyujin 2.Haewon 1.Lily
@mikamanurung8519
@mikamanurung8519 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@emil_yo
@emil_yo 2 жыл бұрын
aespa having all in Top 20 and NMIXX having the Top 2, æmixx saving 4th gen vocals 😍
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 2 жыл бұрын
yes
@YEOUN_channel
@YEOUN_channel 2 жыл бұрын
Should've debut both of the group together and called it "ÆMIXX" doesn't sounds too bad imo 👀
@darkmontero6131
@darkmontero6131 2 жыл бұрын
I WANT THEM TO HAVE A COLLAB LIKE FR
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 2 жыл бұрын
@@YEOUN_channel gosh i wouldn't have imagined that 😭✨
@David-ov8xh
@David-ov8xh 2 жыл бұрын
I wish we can have these type of relationshipss no fanwars and all just appreciating both groups🙌
@bbdidkdndkdk3732
@bbdidkdndkdk3732 2 жыл бұрын
Never been so excited with a vocal duo since Taeyeon and Jessica, Lily and Haewon are on fire
@SgtThidar
@SgtThidar 2 жыл бұрын
Yess! Just by looking at their recent pure live duo performance in this wedding event with literally no backtrack, IEM, auto-tune, and mask on. I think no one in 4th gen idols are yet ready to cover Maktub "wedding song" except Lily and Haewon. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2rVq4uldt-KrbM
@user-tw1zv8ki9q
@user-tw1zv8ki9q 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard Jessica wasn’t even second best in the group but I’m not sure
@udebrl
@udebrl 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-tw1zv8ki9q someone lied to you, Jessica always was the second best vocalist on SNSD, in their debut era the gap between Jessica and Taeyeon with the rest was very remarkable. Currently, Jessica did not improve, so Seohyun and her may be at the same level, but Jessica always had her chest voice, her mix, resonance, support and sense of pitch above everyone else except Taeyeon.
@Taeyeon89
@Taeyeon89 2 жыл бұрын
@@udebrl Jessica’s pitch is one of the worst’s in the vocal line . And she never resonated. Where are you getting this info from? Her mid range is also not really developed either .
@udebrl
@udebrl 2 жыл бұрын
@@Taeyeon89 my info is from a unbiased snsd vocal ranking by Sam Bradley, the response made by arieam to the video who put Jessica at 7th place in vocals and also from Kpop Analysis website. Get informed.
@user-iw5ff1vx5o
@user-iw5ff1vx5o 2 жыл бұрын
JYPE: Here is TWICE Haters: They can't sing live. JYPE: Here is ITZY Haters: They can't sing well. JYPE: Here is NMIXX Haters: They are not from SM, so they can't sing well. JYPE: merging with SM (x
@falsefaithyx
@falsefaithyx 2 жыл бұрын
haters said that about nmixx?? they're like the most solid girl group vocal wise in like...years?? (might be a BIT of an exaggeration, but at least since like 2018, i feel that it's safe to say this)
@jichu_rbk8465
@jichu_rbk8465 2 жыл бұрын
@@falsefaithyx I have seen multiple kpop Stan (mostly my but not only) saying that Ning Ning was obviously better than Lily and that winter was obviously better than Haewon because « they are from SM »
@falsefaithyx
@falsefaithyx 2 жыл бұрын
@@jichu_rbk8465 * facepalms myself * sm has good training, yes, but bru it doesn't mean that sm training is soooo great that anyone from sm is above ppl from other companies and if they put winter above lily imma just-
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere 2 жыл бұрын
People forgetting that Wonder Girls Sunye + Yeeun and 15& exist. :3
@muhammaddandi7242
@muhammaddandi7242 2 жыл бұрын
@@KittyTsundere true 😔
@YEOUN_channel
@YEOUN_channel 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly would love to see Æspa X Nmixx vocal stage collaboration one day :(
@MilesGabrielDPerez
@MilesGabrielDPerez 2 жыл бұрын
YEOUNIEE!^^ Hi! Dayeon Surpass SinB does that mean Dayeon can support? Thank yaur!^^
@YEOUN_channel
@YEOUN_channel 2 жыл бұрын
@@MilesGabrielDPerez Well as you can see , they're at the bottom of the list and most likely to be weak at their best (Although I would put SinB above her and Eunbi). Nevertheless they all are weak and interchangeable ;) Shallow support would be present but way too inconsistent and sometimes non-existent 😬
@MilesGabrielDPerez
@MilesGabrielDPerez 2 жыл бұрын
@@YEOUN_channel THANK YOUU!^^
@inyochayacha548
@inyochayacha548 2 жыл бұрын
Can I ask u who have the best vocal line Nmixx or Aespa??
@Fred-bc9ts
@Fred-bc9ts 2 жыл бұрын
Lilly and Ningning voices would complete each others so well
@oceanwave_
@oceanwave_ 2 жыл бұрын
As expected, all NMIXX members are on the list with two of the members claiming the top 2 spots while the rest are still in their respected ranks despite some members being sub-vocalists which is truly impressive. You were right when you said no other group comes close in the 4th gen 👏🏼 (P.S. I just wish we had more materials from them or from 4th gen groups in general lol)
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
I really think we need to give then some more time to release more proper materials. I think Kyujin, Jinni, Jiwoo and Bae can be a lot higher than what we initially think.
2 жыл бұрын
@@zhejiwooinkwangya i’m keeping an eye on jiwoo especially 👀 but keep it lowkey for now lol
2 жыл бұрын
oh just to clarify i said nobody is coming close in terms of live performance because technically we all know nmixx vs æspa is an on-going (unnecessary) bicker lol
@MoonLight-dx6gf
@MoonLight-dx6gf 2 жыл бұрын
@ æspa has a HUGE advantage of being a small and well rounded vocally group. The only thing that keeps them above NMIXX as a group for now is that Giselle/Karina are stronger than 5 vocalists from NMIXX
@heyash1774
@heyash1774 2 жыл бұрын
@@MoonLight-dx6gf meh, they’re not that much better than the w-a nmixx girlies and they’re basically on the same tier unlike the gap between Haely and NN-Winter duo which is like 1-2 tiers. Not to mention Kyujin and Jiwoo are still very young and already this promising. Give their vocal cords a couple more years to develop.
@mywordsfact.6000
@mywordsfact.6000 2 жыл бұрын
7/7 nmixx and 4/4 æspa are here. Vocal leaders
@namjoonbestleader6936
@namjoonbestleader6936 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure at Aespa but definitely yes for NMIXX.
@mywordsfact.6000
@mywordsfact.6000 2 жыл бұрын
@@namjoonbestleader6936 they are all here actually
@greedgens2714
@greedgens2714 2 жыл бұрын
if nmixx excludes lily and haewon in their group, they will still be a group with decent vocalist right? damn adding lily and haewon to the group is really too powerful
@psychoandchill4328
@psychoandchill4328 2 жыл бұрын
no, instead they would become like every other group lol.
@francescasolarino6843
@francescasolarino6843 2 жыл бұрын
@@vintasahi I mean it's not decent, it's still below average I would say. Even in the fourth generation Main Vocalists nowadays are at least low averages. But 5/5 supporting would be impressive, yes
@liftedb9591
@liftedb9591 2 жыл бұрын
@@francescasolarino6843 literally where lmao? Itzy Stayc Everglow Loona Idle They are some of the most popular and they dont even have 1 average. Nmixx would have prob 2 average vocalists, Sullyoon with Bb3-Bb4 and Kyujin with A3-A4/Bb4
@francescasolarino6843
@francescasolarino6843 2 жыл бұрын
@@liftedb9591 I'm talking about new debuted groups Billlie 1 A Kep1er 1 A Classy 1 A Lesserafim 1 A Nmixx 2 AA
@racheliasaragih2204
@racheliasaragih2204 2 жыл бұрын
@@francescasolarino6843 Billie Either 2 or 1.
@Useronetwothreefour
@Useronetwothreefour 2 жыл бұрын
Really Haewon and Lily topnotches the vocal category. Putting this two together is an overkill and sets them apart in the other groups.
@Useronetwothreefour
@Useronetwothreefour 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone made a video containing the facts that nmixx and Lily and haewon are the monster vocals for this generation. It is obviously “THEM”
@Parkjin-ou6wl
@Parkjin-ou6wl 2 жыл бұрын
Putting lily and haewon in the same team is just wow!
@pertenezcoalilym9823
@pertenezcoalilym9823 2 жыл бұрын
Wooooowwww🥰
@ellendegenreshater3847
@ellendegenreshater3847 2 жыл бұрын
it’s crazy but itzy rlly needs help in the vocal department.. so sad that they were deprived of a whole lily. (this is a joke btw i love yuna wouldn’t want in any other way)
@leonardoenrico2152
@leonardoenrico2152 2 жыл бұрын
They're Taeyeon x Jessica 4th generation
@mywordsfact.6000
@mywordsfact.6000 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonardoenrico2152 do u know Jessica's vocal range?
@Inthanie
@Inthanie 2 жыл бұрын
@@mywordsfact.6000 Vocal Range D3~D6 Supported Range G3/G#3~B4/C5
@dino.nuggies2382
@dino.nuggies2382 2 жыл бұрын
All of purple kisses main vocals r in the top 20 Chaein-18 Swan-17 Goeun-8 And can we talk about swan in the thumbnail she looks absolutely stunning
@_eliza7005
@_eliza7005 2 жыл бұрын
Okay but I think Swan and Goeun deserve to higher on the list.
@dino.nuggies2382
@dino.nuggies2382 2 жыл бұрын
@@_eliza7005 I mean if swan rank a little higher like 15 or 14
@boood3064
@boood3064 2 жыл бұрын
@@_eliza7005 also chaein like...
@priyankasingh1492
@priyankasingh1492 2 жыл бұрын
Yess ❤️
@mywordsfact.6000
@mywordsfact.6000 2 жыл бұрын
Having 2 decent vocalists in 1 group...JYPE hit the jackpot
@marigold4135
@marigold4135 2 жыл бұрын
i’m so glad chaein is better than originally thought because i’ve always loved her voice!
@soxee118
@soxee118 2 жыл бұрын
LILY M BEST 4TH GEN. FEMALE MAIN VOCALIST
@user-tw1zv8ki9q
@user-tw1zv8ki9q 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to add she’s better than all the male vocalists too
@mywordsfact.6000
@mywordsfact.6000 2 жыл бұрын
2 vocalists of Xdinary heroes in top5 too. Just JYPE carrying 4 gen vocal💅
@user-tw1zv8ki9q
@user-tw1zv8ki9q 2 жыл бұрын
@@mywordsfact.6000 I find it hard to believe that 2 people from xdinary heroes have better technique than Ningning
@mywordsfact.6000
@mywordsfact.6000 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-tw1zv8ki9q im saying among boy groups
@user-tw1zv8ki9q
@user-tw1zv8ki9q 2 жыл бұрын
@@mywordsfact.6000 oh! Who would you say completes the top 5?
@slaymixxismyvibe8455
@slaymixxismyvibe8455 2 жыл бұрын
Nmixx is this crazy being just a rookie i cant imagine the power they will hold after 1-2 yrs experience in industry like im just excited to be part of their journey
@kwangyabot
@kwangyabot 2 жыл бұрын
its funny seeing stans (especially gidle stans) swear their group are the best vocalists of the generation 🥴
@sf_1125
@sf_1125 2 жыл бұрын
Really like with Jiwoo nmixx unique vocals.. nmixx all rounder
@potathottwit7604
@potathottwit7604 2 жыл бұрын
I think she and bae are more of a stylistic vocalists
@aeyoona
@aeyoona 2 жыл бұрын
@@potathottwit7604 yet they still slay
@Pfecter
@Pfecter 2 жыл бұрын
Nmixx never stop singing live. That's the most important to develop your singing skill. Confident is a necessity. They will more develop as a singer 1. Lily 2. Haewon 21. Kyujin 23. Sullyoon 25. Jinni 29. Jiwoo 34. Bae Nmixx literally time bomber when they release own nation song maybe they will become one of the best girlgroup history
@imfoive991
@imfoive991 2 жыл бұрын
Is kyujin or jinni better at upper register
@davidakbar4876
@davidakbar4876 2 жыл бұрын
@@imfoive991 kyujin already shown a connected hv so for now kyujin is better
@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062
@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidakbar4876 agreed!
@imfoive991
@imfoive991 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidakbar4876 oh ok thanks
@imfoive991
@imfoive991 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidakbar4876 is that the reason she is better than sullyoon?
@kalss7013
@kalss7013 2 жыл бұрын
NMIXX BEST VOCAL 🔥
@soxee118
@soxee118 2 жыл бұрын
facts
@fporsche__
@fporsche__ 2 жыл бұрын
Faxx
@knk4736
@knk4736 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@namjoonbestleader6936
@namjoonbestleader6936 2 жыл бұрын
@@zeroc00k14 Don't include aespa here, the comment obviously NMIXX only.
@luvnu8846
@luvnu8846 2 жыл бұрын
Nmixx main vocalists being top 2 is crazy
@maryn7437
@maryn7437 2 жыл бұрын
NMIXX VOCALS ARE CRAZY
@knk4736
@knk4736 2 жыл бұрын
Fr
@blackwhite-xz1uc
@blackwhite-xz1uc 2 жыл бұрын
THE STRONGEST VOCAL DUO IN THE 4TH GEN ARE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST?!! LETS GOOOOO!!!!! SLAY GIRLIES!!
@knk4736
@knk4736 2 жыл бұрын
Slayyy
@zzz_ia
@zzz_ia 2 жыл бұрын
Not all aespa and nmixx members being here💅 These two groups have such an amazing lineup
@cupcakkehighspeedrail4934
@cupcakkehighspeedrail4934 2 жыл бұрын
Many people have started believing that Lily is better than Ning Ning but they are still not able to believe that Haewon is also better than Ning Ning.
@boppop717
@boppop717 2 жыл бұрын
True cause according to some delusional stan, they are both neck to neck or the same level and interchangable...
@luffytuffy8350
@luffytuffy8350 2 жыл бұрын
the only reason Ningning is lower because of the lack of materials...
@cupcakkehighspeedrail4934
@cupcakkehighspeedrail4934 2 жыл бұрын
@@luffytuffy8350 🤡
@boppop717
@boppop717 2 жыл бұрын
@@luffytuffy8350 also she lacks development too
@ssamu756
@ssamu756 2 жыл бұрын
They can't accept that 2 member of JYP gg is better than the main vocal of SM gg
@Chanihyo
@Chanihyo 2 жыл бұрын
woah kyujin is ranked higher than sullyoon? Girlie improved so much, so proud of her 😭❤️
@user-tw1zv8ki9q
@user-tw1zv8ki9q 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this ranking. Especially after hearing Giselle in their new performances. I think it would be cool if you added Seea (Pink Fantasy) to the next one though. She is better than most people on the list even if she is overshadowed by Yechan.
@naviscalling2069
@naviscalling2069 2 жыл бұрын
Giselle isn’t even better than karina lmfao
@user-tw1zv8ki9q
@user-tw1zv8ki9q 2 жыл бұрын
@@naviscalling2069 they are in the same tier though so they are close enough. Both powerful 4th gen sub vocalists.
@naviscalling2069
@naviscalling2069 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-tw1zv8ki9q karina is still better, her chest development, wider support range, agility, lows, her supports sounds more full even if the notes were the same
@naviscalling2069
@naviscalling2069 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-tw1zv8ki9q and I don’t think they’re on the same level karina is D+/C-
@user-tw1zv8ki9q
@user-tw1zv8ki9q 2 жыл бұрын
@@naviscalling2069 so is Giselle. Even if Karina is aespa’s weakest vocalist she is still a very valuable member of the team and a true ace. You don’t need to discredit Giselle’s vocal to lift up Karina. Everyone already knows she is a strong vocalist
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh whatever I'm just not gonna put the link. Lily sang on Vlive today and her tone is seriously to die for, especially when she sings western songs. I think she does better when she sings in English. She sang a bit of Party in the USA and I think she gave her best G3~A3 so far there. Consistent head voice and mixed D5's as usual.
@shototodoroki4970
@shototodoroki4970 2 жыл бұрын
The G3 sounds good. Was it supported?
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
@@shototodoroki4970 I'd argue yes, I think it sounds better than her G3 in her predebut cover. Edit: On the fence with this now, her tonality was good, larynx wasn't lowered and sound didn't go dark but I'm open to hear what you guys think if it was supported or not.
@oceanwave_
@oceanwave_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@shototodoroki4970 Yes. It’s her best G3 so far.
@akukuayam9019
@akukuayam9019 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah her best G3 so far. She retained good tonality
@AB-yk2pq
@AB-yk2pq 2 жыл бұрын
English is her native language. She grow up listening western artists. Lily knew very little Korean on Kpop star, so she started learning it 7 or 8 years ago. She's more relaxed singing in English.
@AB-yk2pq
@AB-yk2pq 2 жыл бұрын
As a MY, I'm rooting for Ning's improvements. I'm 110% sure she's capable of doing more than she's shown but I hope SME will give Aespa more live material this comeback. Her lows are amazing, her mix can improve and she has potential to support upper register.
@ssamu756
@ssamu756 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, she lack live material.
@AB-yk2pq
@AB-yk2pq 2 жыл бұрын
@@ssamu756 Hopefully this comeback will have more live preformances in South Korea.
@divaqueening1940
@divaqueening1940 2 жыл бұрын
But she already had shown supported head voice even in predebut. All her registers so far are well refined. She just need to be balance in her mix and get rid of the too much headiness.
@AB-yk2pq
@AB-yk2pq 2 жыл бұрын
@@divaqueening1940 She probably supported upper register as kid, but as a member of Aespa she hasn't done it once. Unless some moments of OST carried support. If you asked person who casually listen Aespa, they'd say that Winter has the the best upper register in the group hence why SME needs to give them more live material.
@divaqueening1940
@divaqueening1940 2 жыл бұрын
@@AB-yk2pq no doubt she still probably had it. Since she improved alot after predebut.
@ryanlee3514
@ryanlee3514 2 жыл бұрын
NMIXX 34. BAE 29. JIWOO 25. JINNI 23. SULLYOON 21. KYUJIN 2. HAEWON 1. LILY OMG ALL NMIXX ARE HERE
@kaushikidhupar2954
@kaushikidhupar2954 2 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion I like the singing style of bae and lia with bae yeah she has alot of throat tension but her voice fits with nmixx concept she sings in cursive if I am not wrong ok she can loose that throat but retain her stylistic singing With lia I absolutely love her voice her English covers are always so good if I am not wrong she also sings in cursive and honestly she should try singing indie songs like lana del Rey she will nail it
@davidakbar4876
@davidakbar4876 2 жыл бұрын
If i want to describe Lia tone is that her voice is so sweet soft and sticky just like honey my fav tone in kpop and lia's tone is blooming when she sing and indie english song
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
LIa's tone is honestly to die for. Her predebut cover of Where You Belong is seriously so good.
@Fred-bc9ts
@Fred-bc9ts 2 жыл бұрын
I actually understand someone seeing Giselle better than Karina. She doesn't really attempt to belt nor is she a "power house" vocalist, but she still maintains her notes relaxed, a clear tonality, having a refined sound.
@ssamu756
@ssamu756 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! Can you do a video of Nmixx Haewon vocal range? She's kinda getting overshadowed by Lily even though they're not far apart. So..
@eternalregard
@eternalregard 2 жыл бұрын
FR, and the Haewon slander is too much 💀
@divaqueening1940
@divaqueening1940 2 жыл бұрын
i sometimes prefer haewon's belts than Lily. But thats just my preference hihi
@christoffermillerante1772
@christoffermillerante1772 2 жыл бұрын
@@divaqueening1940 yes same, I think it's becuz she has a chestier approach while lily has more balanced one
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
I liked Sneakers way more than I thought. The teasers really turned me off for a moment but it ended up being good. I liked how Lia's voice sounded in the song the most.
@Jinnibitch555
@Jinnibitch555 2 жыл бұрын
Same me too but I can’t wait for nmixx to make a comback I am tired of kpop stans especially sm stans looking down upon them I want them to come back and shut them up 😩🤞🏿
@thelastleaf367
@thelastleaf367 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jinnibitch555 there's rumor that NMIXX is not going to CB this year🥲
@cloudniine4047
@cloudniine4047 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I would put Yechan below Haewon, but otherwise this is a SOLID rank. I personally believe Aespa will climb up the ranks as time goes by, especially Ningning (SM main vocalists are known to have a very sustainable technique). On the other hand, Ningning X Lily collab when? Year-end shows, we want to see the power ballad they would deliver.
@zenappa3738
@zenappa3738 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, even Taeyeon had a collab with Sunye when they were rookies (with davichi) So maybe fingerscrossed, this year (except SM being a d*ck, and send out Winter bcs Ningning is foreigner)
@ashlynx7317
@ashlynx7317 2 жыл бұрын
NMIXX on top A rookie gg did that
@felineprincess999
@felineprincess999 2 жыл бұрын
æspa having their weakest vocalists dominating top 20 while their stronger singers dominating top 10 is already impressive. And cmon, why are people acting as if they didnt continue the SM tradition of having strong a vocalline. Bcs they did, and that itself is impressive. These girls are already this talented, what more on the upcoming years!!! IMO, æspa's dynamic as a group is my most favorite, its like they are made to be with each other. Their dynamic and chemistry as group is evident in savage and next level, I love how they use themselves mixing their vocals. The fact theyre already this good, how much can they be on the upcoming years. Im keeping an eye on them.
@aedc17
@aedc17 2 жыл бұрын
it's so sad that people automatically assume someone is bad just because others are better lol. ofc haely are a stronger vocal line, but that doesn't mean aespa's vocal line is weak😭 and as a whole group they are definitely somewhere on the top when it comes to vocals. and I'm pretty sure once we get more materials from all of them we will be suprised, cuz I'm convinced that they haven't shown their full potential yet
@felineprincess999
@felineprincess999 2 жыл бұрын
@@aedc17 people are blinded by this ranking system (Not against it tho, i support OP analysing and updating kpop vocalists) that they tend to forget that at the end of the day, these higher ranked vocalists are still great singers with great technique👍 And even on the lower ranked ones, theyre still great singers and they communicate to the audiences with their gorgeous voices. Thats whats important, tho im not invalidating the essence of proper technique
@thelastleaf367
@thelastleaf367 2 жыл бұрын
@@aedc17 lmao no one thinks that Aespa's vocal line is weak....
@justanoerfan1572
@justanoerfan1572 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelastleaf367 infact aespa's vocal line can be on par with red velvet in a few years
@aedc17
@aedc17 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelastleaf367 what I wanted to express is that mys often feel offended when someone says lily is better than Ning, bcs they assume that that means they are saying she is bad. I guess I couldnt get my point across😭
@sosmiss9147
@sosmiss9147 2 жыл бұрын
I need duo lily and haewon stage performance as an idol not as a wedding singer
@ssamu756
@ssamu756 2 жыл бұрын
Lol HAHAAH they're doing it so they can feed their kids
@knk4736
@knk4736 2 жыл бұрын
HELP
@Noname-of8hg
@Noname-of8hg 2 жыл бұрын
Nmixx is giving me so much Exo vibe 😆
@AB-yk2pq
@AB-yk2pq 2 жыл бұрын
Did you guys hear Giselle's cover of Shake it off by Mariah that she posted month ago on Bubble? Honestly her and Karina's tones are my favourite in Aespa and I wish Giselle was given more lines in this comeback.
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 2 жыл бұрын
she showcased some g#3s there and supported all of em
@randomlyhere111
@randomlyhere111 2 жыл бұрын
Nmixx and aespa supremacy
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
Little cliff notes: - The singers in rank 49-42 are all Non-vocalist singers, their rank is pretty much interchangeable and it really doesn't matter as their technique in general is just too inconsistent and support quality is shallower than a kiddie pool. - The point above also applies to singers in ranks 41-31, theyre in weak tier and all interchangeable. - In general the rankings and given tiers all really do NOT matter. The most important part about these videos is the analysis and a real discussion on the technique of these singers. Some of you look too much into rankings that you're willing to forgive very clear issues and technicalities for the sake of trying to keep up with a ranking or underestimate so many of these perfectly capable IDOL SINGERS because of their ranking. And these rankings are literally made by kpop fans, in theory you can literally make your own ranking system, its just THAT unimportant. Personal cliff notes: - I agree Ningning's performances haven't been the strongest as we'd assume but I don't think it's enough to question her consistency just yet. Personally I don't hear anything much different because in her B4~C#5 range. Her support quality has always just been "passable" and its literally just that, soft, heady and light in coordination. It's just that it's more apparent now because they don't have a loud backtrack/prerecorded track drowning out her voice in recent live performances. Her performances in general sound literally exactly the same as before (Ningning in Jimmy Kimmel live & both days of the LA showcases are all light and soft in approach just like in radio interviews, encores, etc.) so I really don't notice the "stark" difference that makes her ranking "questionable" as some of you guys are mentioning. If she truly shows something different, whether we did end up overestimating her or she actually presents something stronger in the upcoming comeback, I'll stand by this. #NingningforPresident - I'm open to the idea of Giselle having the slight edge over Karina cuz I do agree she has some clean, strong notes even up to Bb4, but I think we need to give more time for Giselle to actually start singing some more challenging lines live to make something like that set in stone. In general, we're a bit too hasty with ranking and analyzing singers and it's causing some huge confusion and misinformation to spread. One of the established rules of KVA (the system all of us are kinda using rn) was to not analyze newly debuted idols and atleast wait a few YEARS (not months y'all, years😭😭) to properly get enough content to analyze. My suggestion really is to remove like half of these girlies of the ranking and focus on the singers with enough content and/or WAIT a bit longer before we start putting ppl in rankings.
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
not this bitch writing a whole thesis chile...
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaushikidhupar2954 THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU MAKING ME CRY 😭💝💝💝
@Empyrean.127
@Empyrean.127 2 жыл бұрын
For realllll. Can we let newly debuted vocalists breathe and perform before passing judgment on their vocal abilities? It’s not that serious.
@paledangels
@paledangels 2 жыл бұрын
jiwoo in kwangya spilled
@zett1807
@zett1807 2 жыл бұрын
I would disagree with placing Giselle over Karina for now. In spite of her messiness, Karina still has a more developed chest engagement which is enough to put her above around this level. I think there are better instances but they’re singing side by side here which gives a clearer view kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6eveKyGaa94jsk when both of them are phrasing those G#4’s, it takes less effort/is quite easier for Karina to produce it with more fullness and a chestier coordination, while Giselle still sounds thinner around here. Karina’s problem is a bit like Jessica… well not really… it’s a bit less isolated I suppose where her issue is the quality of support between her lighter sound and the bolder one, but she retains it well enough in the bolder approach (it’s usually the ambitious runs for her level she tries to apply that makes it sound more all over the place) at least better than what Giselle can manage for now, Karina has better attempts on B4’s as well which doesn’t seem to be entirely flukes so far, by extension the placement on her C5/C#5 are not bad as well.
@divaqueening1940
@divaqueening1940 2 жыл бұрын
Thats what I thought too,
2 жыл бұрын
it’s alright, they’re right next to each other and in the same tier so essentially there’s not much of a gap between them at all. also, just so you know, i was waiting for you ahah love how you will always come up with something i haven’t noticed, but this time around i’ll stand by saying giselle has shown way cleaner approach and karina Bs, well, i would say they’re ‘flukes’ or at least not much of a quirk tbh, because i’m not hearing near as good quality and consistency on her Bb4 ~ B4 range relatively to how she does bellow it. in her case that chestiness is overrated personally lol it’s not like she manages a clear belting, it’s all nasal and verge stuck in some instances so how loud she is projecting or how much chest presence there is in her mix should not be praised for now imo ^^
@justanoerfan1572
@justanoerfan1572 2 жыл бұрын
@ I believe that kyujin sullyoon Giselle and Karina , are on the Same and pretty much interchangeable right? Only time and more content will tell
@davidakbar4876
@davidakbar4876 2 жыл бұрын
@@justanoerfan1572 jinni sullyoon can be interchangeable if jinni use the same sing approach when she sing mama in her predebut cover and for sullyoon i think she's need too leave her light approach so she can get more fuller on her support
@andinho2204
@andinho2204 2 жыл бұрын
The forever Bb4s could be an example of that aswell, right? kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3nSho2medKCh5I Giselle's phrased Bb4 at 0:50 sounded more stuck and pushed if compared to Karina's one at 3:18, the difference ain't big tho
@ashley-gu4yw
@ashley-gu4yw 2 жыл бұрын
chaehyun from kep1er is truly so over hated. she is the only one with consistent support so i have no idea why fans/antis claim she’s weak.
@timara721
@timara721 2 жыл бұрын
All that just because she cracked her voice
@SgtThidar
@SgtThidar 2 жыл бұрын
If akgaes coming for her vocal idk. She is the only one who carried Kepler vocal, meanwhile the others 💀
@breats4703
@breats4703 2 жыл бұрын
@@SgtThidar what is akgae?
@breats4703
@breats4703 2 жыл бұрын
@@imaddictedtoaespagirls1237 thanks
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere 2 жыл бұрын
@@imaddictedtoaespagirls1237 I wouldn’t say akgae = solo stan, but more like toxic solo stan.
@potathottwit7604
@potathottwit7604 2 жыл бұрын
I know that Lily and Haewon is up there, I just know. I really want JYPE and SQU4D to release more contents of them singing and give us a comeback that suits the girls vocal range. I really can't wait for Lily and Haewon's improvement since Haewon is moving up. I really think that they should push Kyujin and Jiwoo to be lead vocalists. Bae is ok but her being a stylistic vocalists is not my thing, she's more on throaty but she's really good with her lows. Sullyoon kinda gets nasally or ist it just me??? Anyway, proud to see NMIXX having support eventhough 2 of them are shallow. Still waiting for NMIXX's upgrade since they're in their prime vocal era😂♥️
@anemojin4384
@anemojin4384 2 жыл бұрын
Nmixx summer cover song soon!
@potathottwit7604
@potathottwit7604 2 жыл бұрын
@@anemojin4384 Ah yes! They'll be participating in a summer vacation kpop song cover with oh my girl and fromis_9 and they're also included in Jakarta kpop concert on Nov 12. Hopefully we can get more live materials from them to see their vocal improvements
@ourcutenessoverloadlia7488
@ourcutenessoverloadlia7488 2 жыл бұрын
Both my best iconic duo lily and haewon just *UNBELIEVABLE*
@chumdol5723
@chumdol5723 2 жыл бұрын
JYP really hit the jackpot with NMIXX. All of the members are main vocal material
@f1owerfield
@f1owerfield 2 жыл бұрын
yechan, jiwon, haewon, and lily deserve their spots so much
@skyline6242
@skyline6242 2 жыл бұрын
this will probably reach outside the vocal community due to the style of this vid so your comment section is about to become hell 💀 praying for you🙏
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere 2 жыл бұрын
Gawd…imagine if soo did a BG version of this one considering the GG one already…😬
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere 2 жыл бұрын
@@vintasahi Oh gawd, now you mention them, as someone who actually commented there (and even got harassed over there in one of them as well), the comment sections of these videos were quite traumatizing (and it’s one group each already). 🙈 Lmao I felt really bad for V (esp) and Sunoo over there.
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere 2 жыл бұрын
@@vintasahi Also don’t forget Himi’s NCT vocal ranking as well. Himi also got hate from delusional stans including xenophobic/racist accusations (which were definitely more extreme) because he ranked Xiaojun, Ten, Chenle, Renjun, and Kun lower than they expected lmao.
@knk4736
@knk4736 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@sage_zv
@sage_zv 2 жыл бұрын
The HAEvenLY Vocal Duo of 4th Gen
@breats4703
@breats4703 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl, but PK's Swan's tone is really good. I'm a big fan of her tone
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere 2 жыл бұрын
She kind of reminds me a bit of now-Hwasa tbh (that same company influence ig lmao)
@adisappointment3453
@adisappointment3453 2 жыл бұрын
she's a low average vocalist when it comes to technique but jesus fucking christ she understood the assignment fully when it comes to stylistic singing
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
hope sootzubae adds JYP in the future weekly update. He can produce resonance down to -G3 and produce whistle tones up to F32. His agility is also really good, he can run up to 32 notes in 0 seconds, he's just that good and fast. He also doesn't shout his notes like Lily ☠☠
@SoulVelvet
@SoulVelvet 2 жыл бұрын
He can support G5s as a dramatic mezzo soprano-baritone hybrid!
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
@@SoulVelvet like who's doing it like him
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
@@vintasahi never!!! no trace of autotune live at all 😁☝🏿
@witchofbabylon5021
@witchofbabylon5021 2 жыл бұрын
He can also switch between chest voice, head voice, falsetto, and pancreas voice within .6 seconds! His vocal control is insane
@eternalregard
@eternalregard 2 жыл бұрын
@@SoulVelvet the hybrid is sending me 😭😂
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
Mindblown 😭 These are some really unexpected rankings
@noonnight8037
@noonnight8037 2 жыл бұрын
All æspa member in TOP 20 👏 NMIXX's Main Vocalist save the TOP 2 👏 æMIXX really save the this generation's VOCAL ❤️❤️❤️
@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062
@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 2 жыл бұрын
YESSSS
@dhy0114
@dhy0114 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there are also Nayul (12dal) and yechan (pink fantasy)…
@mywordsfact.6000
@mywordsfact.6000 2 жыл бұрын
@@dhy0114 1. Nayul 2. Lily 3. Haewon 4. Yeachan 5. Yerim 6. Swan 7. Ningning
@mywordsfact.6000
@mywordsfact.6000 2 жыл бұрын
@@dhy0114 but 12dal unofficially disbanded I guess,bc they didn't have comeback more than year and they are not active
@ヒソカモロウ-s1f
@ヒソカモロウ-s1f 2 жыл бұрын
When toxic fans will say "LiLy's VoCaL iS oVeRrAtEd","tHeY aRe FrOm JyPe",I'll send them this video
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl. She's probably one of the most over-hated idol vocalists in the 4th gen IMO.
@pleasestopyourscaringme7163
@pleasestopyourscaringme7163 2 жыл бұрын
@@fryfly3473 yeah I agree she’s not overrated, but people will try to down play her by saying she’s just “shouting” or “loud” or cause she’s not from sm
@modainvierno8186
@modainvierno8186 2 жыл бұрын
Haewon y Lily probablemente el dúo vocal más poderoso de la 4 gen
@fragilepinks
@fragilepinks 2 жыл бұрын
Wait so you're saying haely are definitely the strongest vocal duo in kpop?😭🖐️ Joke hahahahaha, but anyways Stan nmixx!!!!!
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
4th gen definitely
@soxee118
@soxee118 2 жыл бұрын
in 4th gen, they are 🥰
@Pfecter
@Pfecter 2 жыл бұрын
your name 🤣
@kwangyabot
@kwangyabot 2 жыл бұрын
its impressive how chaewon managed to improve in HYBE of all places lmao i hope she can improve even more to atleast be a low W-A
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere 2 жыл бұрын
and HYBE is well-known to not train their vocalists well lmao. 💀
@anemojin4384
@anemojin4384 2 жыл бұрын
i mean they're not hybe hybe, remember she is in Source music
@kwangyabot
@kwangyabot 2 жыл бұрын
@@anemojin4384 idt soumu has excellent vocal training either since 5/6 of gfriend are all underdeveloped and yuju recived vocal training from elsewhere i belive
@anemojin4384
@anemojin4384 2 жыл бұрын
@@kwangyabot But still they had yuju so it isn't farfetched that they at least train their vocalist (even if it is only one great one and they eventually destroyed her voice) Hybe has pledis too but that's not saying much since hybe pulled a disney on them instead of them being already in house idols.
@felineprincess999
@felineprincess999 2 жыл бұрын
They say veins popping in ur neck is a sign of bad technique But i saw singers who are known to have great technique had veins popping off their neck, like J-hud, whitney houston, toni braxton, mariah carey, aretha etc had veins popping off when they belt. So what is the real meaning behind it???
@YEOUN_channel
@YEOUN_channel 2 жыл бұрын
Not really a sign of bad technique. It's just they're tensing up a bit (in simple words)
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
It's just a sign of some tension. It might be an indication for strain but that's only on extreme cases
@SoulVelvet
@SoulVelvet 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain here why Lily gets called shouty and extremely loud? She’s not especially chesty, the placement is bright and her voice is very girly and light. If she’s “shouty and too loud” heavier and bigger voices like Seo Moontak, Solji and Ock Joohyun must seem like a moon destroying sonic boom.
@breats4703
@breats4703 2 жыл бұрын
I've always seen that phrase by antis. I don't think anyone thats not an antis called her shouty.
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
It's just antis excuse with her. Her voice is really open and she projects loudly so ppl just say anything to say something 😕
@quanrui-e9v
@quanrui-e9v 2 жыл бұрын
it's not even worth explaining because her antis, mostly insecure mys, only said that to "drag" her which makes them sound so stupid
@Empyrean.127
@Empyrean.127 2 жыл бұрын
It probably doesn’t help that in reference to O.O, she’s singing for life with E5 and above lol. Homegirl is doing fine, but JYPE could lay off on making her sing that high for NMIXX’s next comeback.
@himi_
@himi_ 2 жыл бұрын
"moon destroying sonic boom" 💀
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 2 жыл бұрын
i’ve been re-educated about vocal pedagogy and i agree that miyeon is the best 4th gen vocalist. tbh, she gives people like the trinity a run for their money 🫢🫣
@Sylvaincks
@Sylvaincks 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh the trinity always scream... High notes don't make you better 😌
@Jade_dreamingforever
@Jade_dreamingforever 2 жыл бұрын
Who are the trinity
@culturedswine4003
@culturedswine4003 2 жыл бұрын
She set the standard for all of the sm wannabes like kyuhyun and Lina. Also, can we talk about Ailee always copying her style???
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sylvaincks miyeon has fuller and more depth lows than celine, bigger resonance in her belts and headvoice than whitney, more agile and better execution of whistles than mariah. she’s literally outslaying them
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 2 жыл бұрын
@@vintasahi these gurlies are not even comparable to her
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere 2 жыл бұрын
Since it’s related to Purple Kiss (who are in the video), updated RBW (minus VRomance since I need to investigate their shit and I haven’t done it yet) rankings + updated estimated supported ranges + tiers for ONEUS and MAMAMOO members (since they’re my ults) and basing on sootzubae’s Purple Kiss rankings too 1. Solar: G#3/A3 - C5/C#5 (High Above Average) 2. Yonghoon 3. Wheein: G#3/A3 - B4/C5 (Mid-High Average to Above Average) 4. Hwasa: A3/Bb3 - B4/C5 (Mid-High Average to Above Average) 5. Goeun 6. Seoho: E3/F3-F4/F#4 (Low or Low-Mid Average; also it coulddddd be a stylistic choice (most likely is), but also a little noticeable airiness/breathiness in his lows and mid-range at times (don’t think it’s a red flag problem, but something to note about also considering his lacking (in consistency and fullness) chest (TA) engagement/coordination lol)) 7. Swan (knew she wasn’t that shallow, at least not compared to fellow labelmate Keonhee lmao) 8. Chaein 9. Moonbyul: G3/G#3 - G4/G#4 (Mid-Low Weak-to-Average; she’s airy yea, but she’s more solid than Keonhee from what I can see so far with limited materials) 10. Keonhee: E3/F3 - E4/F4 (Fringing Mid-Low or even just Low Weak-to-Average since he’s pretty shallow most of the time with fuller moments very occasionally; also noticeable jaw tension at times too; Treasure Yedam also has this same issue (jaw tension) as well) 11. Dongmyeong (?) 12. Leedo: N/A (Underdeveloped) 13. The rest (though for ONEUS, last time, I ranked Hwanwoong below Xion and Ravn but then looked into more material and turned out that he has better vocal closure/connection than the two with questionable but still shallow moments here and there, but to be safe, he’s still interchangeable with the two since none of them have the basics down anyways) ***EDIT: I forgot Dongmyeong (Xion’s twin), whoops lmao. ***EDIT 2: never mind, found some nice E3’s from Seoho though still inconsistent lol. Giving him E3 back lol.
@user-iw5ff1vx5o
@user-iw5ff1vx5o 2 жыл бұрын
I heard people said Wheein > Solar in the past but Wheein has regressed a bit. Is this true?
@justanoerfan1572
@justanoerfan1572 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-iw5ff1vx5o either that or solar improved 🤷
@inyochayacha548
@inyochayacha548 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-iw5ff1vx5o Wheein regressed
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-iw5ff1vx5o Yea Wheein regressed by a tad amount: loss of resonance, coordination, support, consistency, and development. She used to support G#3/A3-C5/C#5 with strong support and coordination and (pushed) resonance with nice chest (TA) engagement/coordination even though she had her nasal moments as well. Now, she’s too light with no recent moments of resonance with slightly weaker support (though not weak or shallow, just not as strong as it used to be anymore) on G#3/A3-B4/C5 with even inconsistencies on B4/C5 and glaring nasality/nose projection.
@liftedb9591
@liftedb9591 2 жыл бұрын
Solar is fully consistent on C#5, but she doesnt have G#3. Wheein is fully consistent with G#3-B4/C5, she is low above average. I dont think Hwasa consistency on A3 should be questioned either.
@mylastnameissugarcube7683
@mylastnameissugarcube7683 2 жыл бұрын
I actually respect this list very much 👍
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
Giselle over Karina is... not that shocking to me, I do agree that she's a lot cleaner than what I initially thought. But idk personally I'd wait a little more time to pass. It's not that far fetched though cuz Karina isn't as consistent with her support as I initially thought too.
@andinho2204
@andinho2204 2 жыл бұрын
Could you give me examples of Karina's inconsistent moments? That would help me a lot
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
@@andinho2204 The performances they gave at the 2 day LA Aespa showcase and Jimmy Kimmel Live are my biggest gripes personally. (Can't link YT doesnt let me 😭). Its the case where her voice audibly thins out and her nasality catches up and she isnt carrying weight to her voice like she does when she supports her notes. (Yk like she usually does when she goes shallow)
@andinho2204
@andinho2204 2 жыл бұрын
@@zhejiwooinkwangya Compared to Giselle they kinda sounded pretty similar. I still feel like Karina has some better attempts overall and i wouldn't place Giselle higher than her or any of the nmixx girls asdide from Bae and Jiwoo ofc, but ig it's all kinda debateable cuz they're all more or less neck to neck?
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
@@andinho2204 Yeah there's minimal difference between W-A girlies. I still have my skeptics but tbh I'm open to the idea of Giselle being stronger than what we initially thought.
@andinho2204
@andinho2204 2 жыл бұрын
@@zhejiwooinkwangya She is def better than what the thought, but i don't think she edges the higher w-a girls
@MrJay822
@MrJay822 2 жыл бұрын
If I had to guess the top 5 vocal lines of 4th gen it’d be 12dal, nmixx, aespa, pink fantasy and then purple kiss?? (And Weeekly isn’t far behind) Please correct me if I’m wrong Edit: I’ve heard Billie might be good too (Haram: 1 A and Suhyeon, Moon Sua: 2 W-A) Can anyone confirm?
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I guess that would be right since PK's vocalist are all within top 20
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 2 жыл бұрын
yesss
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 2 жыл бұрын
@@leedosbf agree
@user-tw1zv8ki9q
@user-tw1zv8ki9q 2 жыл бұрын
Dreamnote has 2 A tier and Class:y may very well too (at least one A and 3 WA)
@MrJay822
@MrJay822 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-tw1zv8ki9q Ahhh I’ve haven’t heard dreamnote’s music, if I recall, Lara is their strongest right? And yes i forgot about class:y! (they’re still new but promising) Would you say theyre at least better than pk or weeekly?
2 жыл бұрын
*guys!* well at least those whose come here daily
2 жыл бұрын
@@vintasahi those are already ranked :( edited the main comment just to be clearer ahah @Kaushiki Dhupar haven’t heard the album yet but my guess is no… if there’s anything worth i’ll have her on the next update for sure!
@pauhernandez8481
@pauhernandez8481 2 жыл бұрын
@ maybe zin from bugaboo, she is at least an w-a vocalist
@lavidasintea6561
@lavidasintea6561 2 жыл бұрын
Minji from secret number maybe?
@MrJay822
@MrJay822 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely minji from secret number! Oh Ella of pixy, along with Lara and Miso of Dreamnote! Here some links to Lara and Miso as I'm assuming they're the least known out of all the vocalists I listed: Lara: (Theres more but these are my favorites): kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZS0paaElpeSkLM kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIfFmGZvq9CYgZo kzbin.info/www/bejne/il69dmqraZhpas0 Miso: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXmcgGSKoM6tbqM kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnjYnaSMfrV6bpI kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYOkp6ajlM-io6c
@bienfufu3762
@bienfufu3762 2 жыл бұрын
SeeA from Pink Fantasy
@eternalregard
@eternalregard 2 жыл бұрын
omg, an updated ranking finally 😁
@imwinter599
@imwinter599 2 жыл бұрын
Nmixx will be the best gg of the future, I'm so lucky to hear Lily and Haewon's excellent vocals, Sullyoon's excellent visuals and vocals, Jinni, Kyujin and Jiwoo's excellent rap and dance, Bae's excellent voice, dance, rap .
@oncedesu287
@oncedesu287 2 жыл бұрын
damn, I effin hate how nmixx is brutally underrated in kpop scene when their vocals are this good. didn't even expect haewon to be better than yechan. stan nmixx y'all!!!
@anemojin4384
@anemojin4384 2 жыл бұрын
because: Questionable Debut had they debuted a not so experimental song then they would be monster rookies
@oncedesu287
@oncedesu287 2 жыл бұрын
@@anemojin4384 fair enough, that's actually sad cuz they deserve better than jyp's experimental failures😭
@anemojin4384
@anemojin4384 2 жыл бұрын
​@@oncedesu287 now let's hope the comeback would become a "cheer up" "Wannabe" or "Dun dun" moment where they skyrocket astronomically
@potathottwit7604
@potathottwit7604 2 жыл бұрын
1.) A questionable debut song. 2.) Other kpop stans overlook them because they're from "JYP" and Twice, Stray Kids, and ITZY get dragged because they lack of vocal skills. 3.) Mostly toxic MY's are their no1. hater and toxic SM stans (like why do they even stan the company??)
@votingbot2446
@votingbot2446 2 жыл бұрын
@@potathottwit7604 I have to agree, JYPE's reputation in the vocal department is what made nmixx underrated, aside from their debut song.
@_EllaLost
@_EllaLost 2 жыл бұрын
yayy billlie haram :))) too often do i see everyone exclude her from great vocalist lists and she definitely deserves to be recognized as one of the best ones out there
@twicenmixx6945
@twicenmixx6945 2 жыл бұрын
I'm addicted to Lily singing SORRY NOT SORRY
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere 2 жыл бұрын
That D5 from her in that cover was very nice. :D
@myns12
@myns12 2 жыл бұрын
Fr
@twicenmixx6945
@twicenmixx6945 2 жыл бұрын
I'm addicted to kyujin singing peaches
@SoulVelvet
@SoulVelvet 2 жыл бұрын
With NN her problem is not range, she’s still G3-C5/C#5 with some head voice. The reason she’s stuck in A-AA bc her entire range lacks development and stronger support. You can compare her lower range and mid range to Solji. Even on simple notes like C4, NN sounds significantly less full and strong and her lows are way less projected and full. Her issues are even more apparent in belting. Kei, Seunghee, Minseo, etc. have stronger coordination. NN is pretty close to Jess/Seohyun. Jessica is near the bottom of A-AA yet has roughly G3/G#3-C5 because of similar lack of stronger development and coordination.
@butterflysdaydream2944
@butterflysdaydream2944 2 жыл бұрын
Jessica had resonance tho
@akukuayam9019
@akukuayam9019 2 жыл бұрын
@@butterflysdaydream2944 I think OP means post-SNSD Jessica
@butterflysdaydream2944
@butterflysdaydream2944 2 жыл бұрын
@@akukuayam9019 oh that makes sense then, cause snsd jessica had resonance and a strong coordination
@camiloh2443
@camiloh2443 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a hardcore Plory and I didn't expect to see the Purki girls that high 😯 Slayy
@Blossom_6655
@Blossom_6655 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching your analysis and rankings even though I don't know vocal techniques. This ranking was 100% agreeable. Loved the editing and I was swaying to the girls lovely voices the whole video💗
@cxmifr
@cxmifr 2 жыл бұрын
NMIXX SWEEPING THE LIST AS THEY SHOULD!!
@iamk-poptrash6497
@iamk-poptrash6497 2 жыл бұрын
You Forgot Nayul She’s Literally the best vocalist of 4th Gen She’s B/B+ She’s On Same Level As Wendy & Taeyeon
@Dimyixx
@Dimyixx 2 жыл бұрын
Bcuz of all the live performances aespa has been getting (thank God) NingNing B4s is getting better and better, one day she would truly achieve a resonance B4😩
@davidakbar4876
@davidakbar4876 2 жыл бұрын
Ok i just look at yuna cover that called kiss me by sixpance and yeaa back then i always thought that yuna is the best after lia and now i'm preatty suree yuna is second best vocalist in itzy and girl really need to leave her cute approach so she can start to support in that cover she start to use a lil bolder approach
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere 2 жыл бұрын
There were attempts/questionable moments here and there when she’s not doing that cutesy approach, but still very weak grasp at best (she’s inconsistent with it too, one moment she would be bolder than usual and then the next, she slips into that cutesy approach again). She would fall under non-vocalist tier below SinB.
2 жыл бұрын
personally her singing is still rather chopped / unconnected. she is just singing in a comfortable set and range
@bigmamafan1773
@bigmamafan1773 2 жыл бұрын
I still find her a bit weaker than Yeji/Chaeryeong based on how they sing the same part.
@alaaye5237
@alaaye5237 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pleasantly suprised by the fact that Kim Dayeon is here lmao. She's my bias and I love her voice but the fandom doesn't consider her to be a vocalist. Especially since she's a main rapper and main dancer already but I'm glad someone acknowledges her potential!
@votingbot2446
@votingbot2446 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's one of the reasons why WakeOne is pushing her. I mean, we all know that in the process of making an album, you are still going to compete with your members when it comes to lines, and the producers are often pleased with her. It's not her fault their faves are not getting that much, it's up to the producers and choreographers to distribute it. I don't get why they always blame her for that.
@BAZVOCALS
@BAZVOCALS 2 жыл бұрын
You all would rather die than live a day without a ranking Jesus 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@eternalregard
@eternalregard 2 жыл бұрын
noooooo 🤣🤣🤣 but tbh, you spilled 😗
2 жыл бұрын
partially on you for confirming my thoughts on giselle ahhahah 😘
@andinho2204
@andinho2204 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmrMe317pNSkoKs#t=1m14s kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJSqmqR7dt6bjs0#t=0m37s Recent singing materials from Nayeon that i just wanted to share :P
@hiiuma729
@hiiuma729 2 жыл бұрын
The first clip has nice A4s, I didn’t like the second clip since she sounds a bit fuzzy / stuck
@andinho2204
@andinho2204 2 жыл бұрын
@@hiiuma729 She sounds "bolder" in the 1st one, probably to fit the sound of the song more. I hope they release more of those cuz she had nice moments in the G3~Bb4 area on studio so i wanted to hear how she'll sound live
@inyochayacha548
@inyochayacha548 2 жыл бұрын
Any improvements??
@andinho2204
@andinho2204 2 жыл бұрын
@@inyochayacha548 not that i noticed, just her usual approach
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds realllll nice especially the A4's this time around
@eralynabad7911
@eralynabad7911 2 жыл бұрын
For Daileees ✨ #6 - Monday #22 - Soeun #39 - Jihan
@HLEWINPLZ
@HLEWINPLZ 2 жыл бұрын
NMIXX hope everything comes up roses♥️♥️
@Fred-bc9ts
@Fred-bc9ts 2 жыл бұрын
No one talking about Haram, she is so good guys!!
@aedc17
@aedc17 2 жыл бұрын
I find it extremely upsetting that SME is barely giving us any vocal content. It's so sad, the aespa girls are such a vocally strong group and they could showcase that so much more, but for some reason SM doesn't really give them any chance to show that outside of their releases. I really think they are kind of "wasting" their talent here. They could put out so much content. I don't necessarily need them to sing live on music shows like all the time (would be nice if they did it from time to time though), but it would be super cool, if the members could release covers here on youtube (individually/duets). Or simply vocal performance videos for their bsides. All we get these days are just short clips that the girls share on Bubble and if we are extremely lucky, we get to hear them a little bit on radio shows. But I really wanna hear more from the girls and I feel like the girls would also be happy to showcase their vocals more. I'm constantly thinking about how the girls mention their go to karaoke songs in interviews, but the fact that the probability as of now that we will actually hear them sing those songs is so low, makes me super sad and upset😭 I don't want to come across as "needy" or anything, but I'm really desperately waiting for them to give us more exposure to their beautiful voices. With that being said, have a nice day/night y'all. I'm off to manift now🕯
@AB-yk2pq
@AB-yk2pq 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I wouldn't even mind lip syncing on music shows if we had acoustic live preformances of songs like ICU, Life's too short and Lucid Dream. Also Aespa didn't have single full radio preformances of their comebacks ever since they had debuted.
@mambatheestallion1596
@mambatheestallion1596 2 жыл бұрын
Yall can complain with ningning's light approach but I personally like it tho. Her highnotes sounded easy and low that fooled myself that I can hit it lol, while winter makes highnotes sound too high and hard(no shade) Her light approach reminds me of ari so much. Both can effortlessly belt highnotes with minimal strain
@ssamu756
@ssamu756 2 жыл бұрын
Winter highnotes sounds too piercing
@SgtThidar
@SgtThidar 2 жыл бұрын
Welp no shiet if you compared NN to Winter in term of high notes. We already know the answer 💀
@tinnn777
@tinnn777 2 жыл бұрын
i love haram's voice she deserves her spot in here
@thelastleaf367
@thelastleaf367 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me wonder girls supported range and their tiers...?
@pertenezcoalilym9823
@pertenezcoalilym9823 2 жыл бұрын
1. LILY M... 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 Haewon Sullyoon Bae 😍Main Vocalist 👏
@divaqueening1940
@divaqueening1940 2 жыл бұрын
We always discuss abt aespa's vocal abilities objectively. But lemme open up my opinions on their tone. Ningning; buttery, bright and sugary Winter: metallic, icy and bright Karina: heavy but warm and fudgy Giselle: sweet and clear as a crystal.
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
Yeaaa Giselle's tone is very smooth and crisp
@Fred-bc9ts
@Fred-bc9ts 2 жыл бұрын
very accurate
@Fred-bc9ts
@Fred-bc9ts 2 жыл бұрын
@@zhejiwooinkwangya my fav tone of whole 4th gen
@paledangels
@paledangels 2 жыл бұрын
described winter so well, she's also more bolder than ningning in terms of approach tbh
@eternalregard
@eternalregard 2 жыл бұрын
perfect for aespa 💗
@twice7thyear354
@twice7thyear354 2 жыл бұрын
I was curious on how Karina does during live performances, I am under the impression that she sings like an average vocalist in studio (she still can have issues with pushing) but can get shallow in her midrange sometimes during informal & casual settings like fancalls or bubble, does she still keep this shallowness during Coachella, LA Showcase, Jimmy Kimmel, & GMA? I think I remember reading a comment of yours saying that she was messy during her run in Life’s Too Short in live performances & that it screamed shallow but I think it makes sense because she just throws the notes around during live riffs/runs but I think that’s just her lacking proper control over herself during more complex runs for someone at her level, not necessarily to do with her being incapable of fully supporting those notes (up until B4) if it wasn’t apart of a run/riff, please correct me as I’m not an expert and this is based off what I’ve read in the comments here and on your community posts, thank you for your time to whoever reads this!
@divaqueening1940
@divaqueening1940 2 жыл бұрын
Can we stop overusing the word resonance. Resonance is more than a chesty/balanced belt with ringing quality😭
@SoulVelvet
@SoulVelvet 2 жыл бұрын
To resonate you have to have open, rounded vowels as well (which most AA lack). Even P vocalists don’t resonate every in song and some don’t resonate at all like Wendy. Resonance is much rarer than originally thought. Lily hasn’t resonated. NN hasn’t either.
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 2 жыл бұрын
@Czennen sadge we only have one representative in this department lmao 😩
@user-tw1zv8ki9q
@user-tw1zv8ki9q 2 жыл бұрын
Did Yechan regress?
@Douchifer
@Douchifer 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-tw1zv8ki9q she did, sadly.
@user-tw1zv8ki9q
@user-tw1zv8ki9q 2 жыл бұрын
@@Douchifer I thought she was always in AA tier. Did she just move from higher to lower?
@mywordsfact.6000
@mywordsfact.6000 2 жыл бұрын
1. Nayul B/B+ 2 Lily B- 3. Haewon B- 4. Yeachan 5. Yerim 6. Swan 7. Ningning
@mywordsfact.6000
@mywordsfact.6000 2 жыл бұрын
It's overall,but among 4 gen GGs HaeLy are top2
@paledangels
@paledangels 2 жыл бұрын
nayul is B+, yechan yerim B-, rest r C+ u should include monday n the others too they’re not very far off from ningning
@mywordsfact.6000
@mywordsfact.6000 2 жыл бұрын
@@paledangels 8. Monday
@kalss7013
@kalss7013 2 жыл бұрын
I think lily is mid B
@mywordsfact.6000
@mywordsfact.6000 2 жыл бұрын
@@kalss7013 high AA,Haewon mid AA
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 2 жыл бұрын
New songs from aespa guys!! ICU showcases their Vocals! 😚✨✨✨
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya 2 жыл бұрын
It's really nice. They showcased their softer singing approach and they did well.
@mywordsfact.6000
@mywordsfact.6000 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah,but only Giselle improved. Shes now D+
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 2 жыл бұрын
@@mywordsfact.6000 gigi always in W-A tiers! more like she showcase her vocals ability
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