After 15 yrs she’ll be eligible for parole, which may fail, so … I don’t understand why concurrent sentences are used - it minimizes the second victim, to my mind. Consecutively would’ve given her 30-life, which seems more of a deterrent.
@mage14398 ай бұрын
I agree. Concurrent sentences are pretty much bullshit. You're essentially double-sending them to prison for the same sentence. Might as well just sentence them once and shake your finger at them and say, "I mean it."
@dner75-xh9le8 ай бұрын
Well said. Totally agree. Concurrent sentences for these types of heinous crimes are a cruel joke.
@mirandaslaughter45408 ай бұрын
As for the Shirilla case, I lived in Cleveland at the time this happened and the trial took place, what she did was HORRENDOUS and not just the murder and attempted suicide. In the interim that she was waiting for the trial to start she went to a music festival downtown and her parents took her to Ohio University to party for Halloween. Her mother was even attempting to get her a modeling agent cause in their mind she wasn’t going to prison and she needed to focus on HER future, not the ones she ended. Her parents raised an entitled monster! And the kid that was collateral damage was adopted out of foster care with his 2 sisters. She had no real understanding of what she did , therefore no real remorse
@ReAllyT19788 ай бұрын
@@mirandaslaughter4540 that's disgusting. Parents should be ashamed oh themselves.
@mirandaslaughter45408 ай бұрын
@@ReAllyT1978 You would think, right. But, they kept screaming they knew she was innocent as they took her away in court. And the victims families were in the courtroom, smh. When all of this came out in court it just made me cry. Those poor boys died before their lives even started
@kimking60368 ай бұрын
The last one Skylar asked why? And begged them to stop while they stabbed her. Just because they no longer wanted to be friends. How could they do that!? None of these kids can apologize for their cruel acts. How can they.
@SeenGod8 ай бұрын
the Skylar Neese case is heartbreaking, that poor girl thought she was sneaking out to hang out with her two best friends, but instead they stab her death and hide her body in the woods 😕
@ogiedee52898 ай бұрын
I like when you said "F**K' OFF
@gotham618 ай бұрын
LWOP (life without the possibility of parole) is extremely rare for crimes committed before you turn 18. It was completely banned a few years ago, but the Supreme Court reversed that decision allowing it in certain circumstances. The death penalty is completely off the table for under 18s. Remember, just because someone is eligible for parole, doesn’t mean it will be granted. Charles Manson was eligible for parole, and was denied, eleven times.
@ExTiNkT918 ай бұрын
114 times. That's alot of anger.
@JIMBEARRI8 ай бұрын
The other option for sentencing is "Consecutive". i.e. the convicted person must serve the full term of the first sentence before beginning to serve the second sentence. In many states, that is the ONLY way to guarantee that a really vicious criminal will NEVER get out.
@PapaEli-pz8ff8 ай бұрын
Sometimes horrible things happen to vicious criminals while serving their prison sentences.. just saying
@Tanx337 ай бұрын
9:05 Mr Ballen covered this story, "These teens have a terrifying secret(mature audiences only)" is the title. it was absolutely brutal. they were all good friends and then they just got tired of their friend and just decided they would kill her. then they pulled off the murder, hid the body and went about their normal lives. once the parents reported her missing, they pretended to help find their friend, even went to her house and spent time comforting and seeking comfort for the girls parents. and there were even more details that just made the whole thing even worse. they are monsters. they even had the thing planned out to "go on 3" and start stabbing when their friend was distracted. one of them posted on social media after the murder "we really did go on 3."
@JIMBEARRI8 ай бұрын
Nature vs. Nurture is the crucial question that no one can answer.
@fionnmaccumhaill32578 ай бұрын
Actually, it's been studied and documented numerous times on twins separated at birth. Why do people insist on commenting on something they know very little or nothing about?
@FirstNameLastName-wt5to7 ай бұрын
Psychopathy is nature. Sociopathy and most other personality disorders are nurture.
@joniandrews50708 ай бұрын
I love watching you, the comments are spot on….and your accent makes me happy lol
@kevin9828 ай бұрын
They were all sorry and have pity on me. They are only sorry they were caught. I don't feel anything but contempt for each and every one of them.
@truthbetold25678 ай бұрын
Not every monster is created. Some were just born with crossed wires.
@JIMBEARRI8 ай бұрын
Believe it or not, in some states, a person under age of 16, even convicted of murder, can be released at age 21 AND have their record expunged.
@thebyrd4338 ай бұрын
I got bad grades in school and the only thing I felt was ashamed that I didn't perform as well as I should have. Kill my teacher over a bad grade?!? WTF!!! Those two are morally bankrupt and need to stay behind bars and avoid dropping the soap for the rest of their lives. That young and good-looking? They are gonna have some problems.
@dianecomly61328 ай бұрын
I swear that there is a pervasive lack of impulse control amongst a good portion of the population. I don't have any answers.
@Allsizes8 ай бұрын
When 1st responders got to that car from the story they said her foot was still pushing the pedal to the floor
@purplepumkinX8 ай бұрын
Blaming parents typically is a huge no no in a lot of cases NOT ALL. I've seen cases where parents have tried to help their kids and cases where they made dumbass terrible decisions in raising their kid. You never really know until the facts come out
@ESUSAMEX8 ай бұрын
The US supreme court has ruled that criminals who have committed their crimes before the age of 18 cannot automatically get a life sentence. Thus, they get a sentence like 15 to life. At 15 years in prison, the court will review the sentence and either resentence them to life or to 34 more years or release them. I doubt anyone is ever getting out in the video.
@Boodieman728 ай бұрын
Parole is for people that can be rehabilitated.
@Ceractucus8 ай бұрын
A guy who I had knew in High School transferred to a different High school and a few months later, he and his GF killed a Japanese exchange student because she had been flashing money around their high school she got from her father to repair her car. A few years ago he was released. He is now happily married, and works to help people cope with drug and alcohol addiction. These crimes are unimaginable, mercy should not be. As a matter of fact, I learned about the second chapter in this man's life through a news report and they have said that in the past few decades there is a great deal of evidence that people that commit violent crimes and go to jail for a long time have one of the lowest chances of recidivism. They outgrow the violence.
@Jess-yb6uq8 ай бұрын
There is a chance that these people will get longer sentences and stay in prison if they continually break prison rules.
@Sandman600777 ай бұрын
The second one , Aiden Fucci, his mother was also arrested and sentenced because she knew about it and helped him try to cover it up.
@EdnaFlanagan8 ай бұрын
Concurrent means at the same time.
@ScottyM19598 ай бұрын
I make no excuses for these kids they deserve life in prison. I wouldn't take the kid's grin you referred to so seriously, it could be a nervous reaction that can't be helped. He could've been smirking it off I don't know, but I know people have involuntary reactions under stress.
@bnn32-c7s6 ай бұрын
you should watch the crime doc on Skylar. its proper crazy
@stepbino23218 ай бұрын
I think some of it is a sense of self entitlement. They felt they were entitled to get a good grade, regardless of their efforts of deserving it. Easy solution and selfish, they took a woman's life while destroying three families.
@nightfires2k128 ай бұрын
15 to life means the state's amout of prison time for life, plus an additional 15 years. So if a state's life sentence is 90 years, and you get 15 years to life, your sentence would be 105 years.
@juanlugo39828 ай бұрын
None of those people are gonna make parole the first time and probably not the second time either
@Moki_Dog7 ай бұрын
For the last case, the actual motive for the murder was that Shelia and Rachel were in a gay/lesbian relationship and they were both afraid that Skylar was going to tell people.
@reneehomen22268 ай бұрын
She may be young and immature, but surely knows the difference between right and wrong. Concurrent means run together. Shes crying for herself , not for what shes done. The boys who killed their teacher most likely be tried as adults.
@jamesigorreilly9798 ай бұрын
In my opinion it’s the internet babysitter, parents use to condition them to be seen and not heard . Kids live in false worlds and bring that world into their daily lives . Some insecurity in teens becomes a psychological disorder and crime becomes an answer !
@TexasRose508 ай бұрын
You asked what I’m always thinking. Where were the parents? We’re these kids never taught right from wrong? Did these kids play too many violent computer games? Where did all this evilness come from??
@FredHunley-v6o8 ай бұрын
Wait till he meets bubba
@NuKnightRider8 ай бұрын
Bull! They are never sorry for their decisions. If they were ever sorry for anything, they would’ve thought first and then seek counseling. The crying is just for show to get a tiny piece of sympathy which doesn’t happen.
@sandygrunwaldt17808 ай бұрын
It's not the parents fault. We live in such a broken world. How sad 😔
@TheHekateris8 ай бұрын
What the hell is wrong with these kids
@andrearay51348 ай бұрын
It is very disturbing how more often than not people cannot handle… failure or rejection. You get a bad grade? Do better! You don’t like someone? Go on about your business. To go to such extremes is beyond concerning. Smh. I may be in the minority here but I don’t know who is to blame. Maybe we go back to keeping score at children’s sports games. Stop giving them certificates for everything! You win some… you lose some and it’s OK!
@revgurley8 ай бұрын
Recently, the parents of a teen murderer were, or are about to, be on trial for manslaughter. The mother was found guilty of manslaughter. At this time, the father is yet to be in court (I think). First time a parent has been found guilty in relation to a child's actions. Not sure if I agree with it or not, but that's the current situation.
@nicholasgeorge41974 ай бұрын
I kind of feel like Goodale's apology was sincere. Not that it matters whatsoever.
@keiyountegray8028 ай бұрын
Here
@prettybullet77288 ай бұрын
In the Skyler Neese case, I remember reading somewhere that the two girls didn't want to be friends with Skyler anymore but were afraid that she would tell their parents that they were lovers, and that was the reason why they killed her. To hide their secret.
@FirstNameLastName-wt5to7 ай бұрын
Rachel made that claim during her parole hearing in an attempt to garner sympathy from the panel. She’s highly manipulative and lacks empathy. Thank goodness the panel saw through her games and rejected her parole. She planned the murder just because she wanted to kill.
@FirstNameLastName-wt5to7 ай бұрын
That you Rachel?
@hobbgreen45298 ай бұрын
Why do women always get a lessor sentence than men for the same serious crimes ? What happened to equal rights ?
@matthewclark16748 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@allanrose29648 ай бұрын
Consecutive means along with while Concurrent means one after the other....
@fannybuster8 ай бұрын
I blame video games they play,most are violent,they show murder in a frivolous way.Makes some of them zombie like