Destiny 2 Player Count just hit an All-Time Record Low...

[@KackisHD]

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[@Richforever69]

Why u spreading bad news this game made u 😂😂🤡

[@Richforever69]

Why u spreading bad news this game made u bruh

[@Yubl10]

We all know that's not going to happen, unfortunately. I would like Destiny 2 to be good again, too, but I'm not holding my breath.

[@NetmanOnline]

Rather play on Epic games than support eleitist like you and Aztekcross Unsubbed!

[@jonfry3]

10 year old game. New games released. Content stale etc. Click bait video

[@apitify2474]

I will forever love the game but I just couldn't handle how bad and boring the content is

[@PedroSantos-tp3lw]

same. And then poe2

[@Jorbinocus]

@@PedroSantos-tp3lw oh is that good? I’m thinkin when I get my ps back I’m gonna pick it up

[@marksadler4457]

I agree - the current team seems infantile at creating an engaging story. They put a lot more energy into their pronouns than their products.

[@PedroSantos-tp3lw]

@ it’s still on early access. But i’m really loving it

[@samuelhofer7099]

I'd rather wait two years for a dlc, or go back to only one major update in between releases like in D1, if it meant the content mattered. I can't even blame devs with how seasons are handled, because their work vanishes in less than a year, never to be seen again, so why would they bother making something interesting?

[@6Zebulan9]

Love destiny, but there's no replayability value. Playing weekly feels like a chore.

[@xcelestialdemon8245]

Everyone kept complaining about grinding but they didn't realize that grinding was the only reason they played. Bungie kept making the game easier and easier to play, now it's too boring. I've been saying this was coming for years. Catering to the hypercasual has ruined the game for everyone.

[@jacobodom8401]

@@xcelestialdemon8245same thing happened to ESO

[@jacobodom8401]

Also an issue is removal of story, which makes it impossible for players to replay the whole Light & Dark saga

[@king_othe1895]

​@@xcelestialdemon8245 i totally agree with what you have to say as making the game harder is way more fun also they would add good fun and effective weapons like theyve done before however everyone that grinds the game have a right to be mad at grinding because they need a replayability which we once had many times

[@squeeeep9564]

On god

[@creepingdeath4280]

It’s just not fun anymore. I play games for entertainment after a long day at work. Destiny feels like a second job and Xur sells garbage, same crap every week. The dawning is just plain stupid. I had a long grind for tanasha’s mastery and now they want to nerf it a few weeks later. SMH.

[@insulated_unit]

Ditto 😢

[@obZidianZ06]

EXACTLY.

[@TheMeatyOgre]

For me, I like to play solo. Its impossible now. Everything is a team experience. I didn't spend this much money on this stupid game for them to decide how I have to play to progress. Too grindy. Too tedious. Too much money wasted on a Raid-Dungeon based BS time sink. Been nice Destiny. You have ruined the game, and i dont have any more time or money to care

[@xvdifug]

Plus they took away alot of my favorite places to go, If they remove the Dreaming City ....No reason for me to play , ever again.

[@EchoDoctrine]

Yep. Many warned them and expressed this same concern on forums and the streamers, KZbinrs and elites all responded with “get gud, don’t like it leave, it’s an MMO !! Etc etc “ Well well well. Player have since left.

[@rla9889]

Agreed. It eventually got to the point I realized it wasn't made for me anymore. All the new stuff requiring teams and the final nail in the coffin was the forced co-op mission to get the exotic class item. Prior to that you could run every single exotic mission solo. That was it for me.

[@Insanelydharmic]

@@EchoDoctrine Streamers, content creators, and their deluded fanboys are a big reason for the game's current state. They demanded a more difficult and more challenging experience, and while the game did become tougher and more grindy, it lost its fun factor in the process.

[@afternoobtea914]

@@rla9889 Couldn't agree more.

[@АлександрТингаев-э8р]

That's because it's the same from season to season, there's nothing new.

[@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire]

It isn’t that Bungie isn’t capable of churning out meaningful changes and adjustments… It’s just that the way they do so is the epitome of “too little to late”, waiting months if not YEARS to finally get around to adding the things players _really want._

[@Maybeghostfacee]

Recycled content also plays into our all feeling how we do and the all time low...

[@АлександрТингаев-э8р]

@@Maybeghostfacee I note that the content was previously purchased, later deleted, recycled and sold again.

[@mrj8429]

Everything feels like such a grind. It's no fun. It's like being at work.

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

It's not even the grind. It's that we don't feel rewarded for doing that grind. I wouldn't mind grinding if the grind ended with a nice little loot explosion but instead we get like a couple drops at most every 15-20 min. That just doesn't feel all that good. Imagine if at the end of each encounter in dungeons/raids/activities we had like 5+ weapons dropping. That would at least feel like we were rewarded even if none of the rolls are that good. But just getting a couple and neither being great it's like....the hell was all that time used for lol.

[@staystrong2792]

​@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 facts great point

[@ballpython365]

The biggest problem is they have progressively made the playlists, particularly the vanguard playlist more and more tedious, adding time sinks to the faster strikes, dumping all the crappy battlegrounds in there that majority of players don't enjoy, and with that, we are still earning the same amount of dawning essense as when lake of shadows used to take 2 minutes. They keep increasing the time to complete this stuff and not updating all the other shit that was balanced around 5 year old content. God I miss year 2 of this game, before the crappy seasons, before the crappy overuse and reuse of battlegrounds every season. Back when seasons were like black armory or opulence... They are actively killing the game, and it is only getting worse with every season they release.

[@samuelhofer7099]

They keep saying they are taking a step back from adding strikes, or Gambit, citing low player numbers, but like, the reason no one plays these things is because you don't update them. The way Bungie says it, they make it sound like they tried in the first place, but we can clearly see virtually no effort goes into the game outside of DLC and seasons. (we had ITL, but that burst of creativity had a BIG ulterior motive, so...) But then that goes away each year, so we're left with a game completely devastated by the content vault stuff, and absolutely no attempts at repairing it. The game feels so fragmented and unfinished now because it literally is.

[@orangejuice9396]

I'm someone who always used to hop in strikes and grind them for fun, it was legitimately very fun speedrunning them but then after around... season of the deep strikes kinda just felt like a husk of what they once were.

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

@@samuelhofer7099 gambit dying because bungie doing literally the worst thing imaginable to it (infinite heavy ammo) and then saying "no one plays gambit anymore" still fills me with rage

[@samuelhofer7099]

@@epicgamerzfail4575 EXACTLY They only remove maps, removed the competitive mode, it took them over a year to add DLC enemies, and obliterated the ammo economy, then had the balls to say last year not enough people play it. Like, gee, I wonder why?

[@samuelhofer7099]

@orangejuice9396 And same. Back in D1, and for a few years in D2, I'd spend hours just goofing off in the playlists. No goal, no seasonal grind, it was just fun to do.

[@amyjay7574]

Honestly the -5 power in raids and dungeons kinda killed the grind for me. I used to chase +21 power to get a little bit of edge; now there’s no point. I don’t want to “git gud” I just wanna relax while I play and chill with my friends.

[@snowmankillz713]

4k hours on the game. I quit. Bungie doing less than bare minimum it’s a disgrace

[@TheGamingGopher]

Bro my Steam Replay showed my D2 playtime drop off HARD over the months to the point where I haven’t played since July. There’s so many other better games out there to experience.

[@Twilight.Princess]

On steam alone I have 9k on Destiny 2 and stopped playing after Final Shapes end. Thought it’d be a good time to end my 10 year journey with the franchise and I couldn’t be happier from the things I’ve heard over the months.

[@billy_cross]

Yeah, there was a lot more than 9000 players yesterday. Jesus learn to read there might’ve been only 9000 in the hour that you were playing, but there was a lot more than 9000 over the course of the entire day.

[@billy_cross]

Well, let’s not forget the fact that it is an event that it’s gone on for six years. It’s been anybody who gives a shit about that. They do is already done it multiple times at least a couple and that’s kind of the point destiny too. The game is over with anybody that still clinging to it is just not accepting the situation as it is That the game is done. There’s not gonna be any more contact for this game. They’re not gonna get new events they’re just gonna keep recycling the same seasonal shit and when I say signal, I don’t mean content that you’re stupidly buying every season. I mean actual world season Halloween and Christmas. Those kind of things you’re not gonna get anything new it’s just gonna be Hash of what you’ve done in the past. They’re not gonna develop anything new except episodes which are gonna take you want a few hours to complete and then you’re gonna grind that episode for how many weeks or months until the next one comes out because well you’re gullible damn betting you have to buy something to get all the content in that episode right you’re just gullible But still there’s at least several hundred thousand people playing this game on any given day on steam probably as much if not more playing it on PlayStation and Xbox as well because again we have a much more limited choice for everything so games like this they last longer at higher content, levels and games that aren’t really even as good as that will last as well at higher content level on PlayStation at least that’s what I’ve seen on PlayStationin any case you made your career on Bethany and you’re not already looking for some other track you’re kind of shortsighted

[@billy_cross]

And by the way, you are a perfect example of the kind of gamer that literally ruins gaming for us. If you don’t like the season then don’t do it. There are literally other ways to get the new gear if you’ve got all the gear cause you’ve been playing for 4000 5000 hours Then you worn out this game move on to something else demand something else not the same recycled bullshit if you’re not having fun, just playing the game shooting and killing things with your friends then you’re doing it wrong. I mean you don’t have to be with your friends. I’m just saying if the game has become boring for you and you’re keeping your continuing to play And not experiencing new things you’re not having any fun then you should be switching to something else hopefully war frame got an exceptional story far better than destiny two story when nearly toll from start to finish you can’t jump ahead even you have to complete every planet kill the boss at the term or whatever it’s called before you can jump in the next planet, you can have to play through the story it is fantastic. The whole acting is supreme. The cinematography is supreme. There’s nothing in destiny that relates at all, but it’s not a loser shooter so you know you may find the concept of acquiring parts and crafting everything you use to be somewhat tedious but here’s a nugget bun intended destiny to be just like that when it came out it had static rolls on weapon. They expect you to get a weapon and then move on because they knew they were gonna be thousands of pieces to collect And then public opinion sway them into the situation. We have now where possible to get God role so they had to put in a crafting system so let your craft of God rolls or frame started a year before that one and player count wide. There’s a long outlasting destiny tooso I think on that for a minute.

[@generalnawaki]

Right Marathon, the game like maybe ten people as excited about. I think Marathon is going to be the death of Bungie, that are backing it like its a golden goose when in reality its anything but.

[@joshquig9399]

I would agree.

[@joaoah]

If Marathon launches as a free to play game I would give a chance.

[@z3ndigital873]

Marathon will be riddled full of cheaters because Bungie can’t or won’t address them ..

[@SeanRandall-fx9hk]

With the way they've handled destiny who would be dumb enough to buy anything they sell afterwards

[@edgieststalker8141]

Conocrd... It's goinc to happen again....

[@PillowEgg]

Destiny 2 feels less of a game and more like a job or a chore. Quitting Destiny is the most healthiest thing you can do. The game focuses on too much grind and FOMO.

[@AugustoCabreraC]

Destiny 2 was dead for me after noticing that Osiris was full of cheaters and Bungie never even tried to fix it

[@marksadler4457]

I'm already looking for a replacement for my Destiny play time. It's sad but gotta move on.

[@joshquig9399]

Same

[@Brownwaffles]

Try The First Descendant if you like Destiny

[@Soul_9536]

Ive replaced destiny 2 with Warframe 6 months ago and its been a blast

[@Klassikhuhn]

Warframe

[@Mnloopz]

Monster Hunter

[@legomaster2317]

Game has gotten too complicated and boring.

[@dkat1108]

Well said !

[@KenKaneki_Kibutsuji]

Sunset is what pushed me away from game. Also, Who even wants to play games where story starts from middle? They pushed old players with Sunsetting and removal of starting content also pushed New Players away too.

[@stevegaspar]

Destint 2 players are much older than most gamers. That is also an issue. There is NO influx of young people who want to play (12-25) and would rather play other games. Also the game really does suck now.

[@devilghostface8798]

Because the game sucks

[@randumb2295]

I have not yet heard one single person say they are excited about marathon.

[@solace2005]

Facts

[@joseaviles2742]

Im really excited..... To not play marathon.

[@jaypey8253]

cant be excited about something ive never seen gameplay of

[@NikolaiMihailov1]

Im excited. Because I want to see Bungie get their comeuppance. It's been FAR too long. I dont think all the Devs are bad folks. I think it's managment and the C suite execs are the problems. I HOPE Marathon drops and makes Sony eat crow.

[@nuclearsun2001]

I hat* the design of Marathon, it look too much fluo, too much woke, without any interest character (at mooment). I would prefer an D3 instead of woke rubbish battle royale or an FPS extraction. I look for a great LORE, not a silly "teen" looter shooter

[@gregoryliaros2626]

Our guardian releasing Eremis was the final nail in the coffin for me.

[@dakotaouzts6477]

This, make it so that eido did its I had no desire to ever release her and it completely depleted any interest I had

[@TLP607]

I like how they gaslight the playerbase when something doesn’t work or something is not played enough and in the end put the blame on the playerbase “saying players do not interact with this XYZ activity”.

[@-whiskey-4134]

At the end of the day, as a veteran player, the problem isn’t actually Destiny, it’s Bungie. I used to love the game, but it’s clear people over at Bungie dont. I cant be passionate about something that even the creators don’t really care about. It’s just cash grab after cash grab. The put more effort into finding ways to charge us more money, while only allowing the bare minimum to be added.

[@Clownin_Around213]

For a game that has so much content, I feel like I have so little to do. I have so little drive to log in and do anything these days. I used to love just chilling out in the Vanguard list and grind out some strikes. Now, not at all. I really don't want to play any of the Battlegrounds of any type. And some of the daily modifiers just suck. Now I log in maybe once a week, knock out my Pathfinders, maybe do a dungeon or seasonal activity and that's it. Drip feeding boring content doesn't make for longevity.

[@EchoDoctrine]

Many players on forums and twitter warned Bungie this would happen. Many casuals and solo players asked for more difficulty options & stop the forced multiplayer BS that require comms and raid lite mechanics (see the whole class exotic dual destiny debacle). The streamers, youtubers and elites all responded to those posts with “STFU, Get Gud, don’t like it then leave, it’s an MMO you must play with others & do mechanics, get a mic & use lfg it’s not hard loser, etc etc” The elites , streamers and KZbinrs ruined this game. Just so they could make complicated guide videos and get views or more people in their discord channels for dual destiny carries & raffles. 45 min raid guide videos…. Gee I wonder why no one plays raids. Why don’t casuals play raids…. Casuals can play other games and have FUN like Marvel Rivals, Helldivers, Space Marines, etc etc and they don’t need phd guide videos to learn 28 symbols and mechanics. I hope Saltagreepo and Datto are happy.

[@ladysariel2627]

Exactly. My buddy and I can play all of the end bosses in The First Descendants as a duo. There are 2 bosses you can’t play solo but the rest of the content is all available on private mode that you can play solo. Destiny needs more solo content.

[@Xenomorphenia]

Woohoo!!! We broke the record. Let's goooooooo! 🎉🥳

[@craigpotter3212]

Still no matchmaking for higher tier nightfalls, dungeons, legendary campaign story etc is crazy.

[@jaypey8253]

game has ingame finder now, youre just not using it

[@wredue3733]

@@jaypey8253 "Fast. Looking for Experienced" "Hey, so, actually, I don't know what I am doing"

[@zacharybrogden3038]

If Marathon flops (which it will) then Bungie dies. They’ve just waisted too much money, lost too much staff and burned too many bridges.

[@CatofTailsNine]

I can't think of anyone who has experienced what Bungie has done to the Destiny franchise that would be willing to invest their time, effort and money into another Bungie project, other than YT shills.

[@ElrondKaresh]

​@@CatofTailsNine100%. Especially the pve players that may try out an extraction shooter, having the gear they grind for in a match ripped away by the exfill campers and inevitable cheaters.

[@chrisdavid4017]

Not surprised. I only started playing about 3 months ago and I can already tell the devs dgaf about their players. No way to report in game issues and have them fixed within a reasonable amount of time. Whoever at bungie that’s making decisions are gonna run this game into the ground. This is what happens when you have someone in charge that is worried more about profits over everything else. It’s pretty sad because I really love this game and it feels like they just aren’t trying anymore.

[@Shadowub1590]

I feel like that is definitely Mr. ceo's fault. The devs aren't making content out of passion anymore; they're making content out of fear of losing their jobs.

[@christuco990]

I agree how do you even report issues?? WOW has an ingame DEV to talk to to fix issues at a time. this game is horribly managed but potential so high that they will never meet and honestly why play marathon when you cant even run this game productively. In the new dungeon they still havent even fixed the hunter super to work in there an entire sublcass for MONTHS.

[@alexdavis6566]

From the COVID times when they had a record of over 2 million sales, to now.. Of having not even 60k players is shockingly low

[@Corion2121]

8:57 A new Destiny game isn’t going to solve their problems; it will only restart the timer…

[@Tirpitz7]

The first time I played Revenant and was introduced to the tonics system, I said "nope, not interested" and dipped out.

[@moonlite2202]

They need to make matchmaking for raids and dungeons.

[@davidwashington6180]

That's why your finding a lot of people going back to D1

[@Captain-Picard42]

@@davidwashington6180 playing d1 now, match making does take long

[@zackkramer8860]

Agreed! They should have matchmaking for everything in the game, including expert level activities and grandmasters. I understand noobs would join in but then you could give a whole other demographic of players experience and a chance to actually play these harder activities

[@smittycal]

There is nothing to do in Destiny 2 right now. The Dawning is boring and you can only do the new activities so long. Maybe when new story beats come back more people will come back.

[@ChrisCallow-u7u]

As a 10 year veteran of destiny I don't just blame bungie for the downfall of the game eventhough there are many bugs in it but I also blame the streamers and the other people who don't have a job they just sit and play all day so when working people get a chance to play and do the activities we always get a (KWTD) When we join we get kicked for not knowing the raid or dungeon that makes many people leave the game being belittled.

[@grnftnss]

I also have been playing since D1 launched. This is my primary game. I have too much time invested to start over in a new game.

[@TOTALLYsup]

Destiny fans haven't even stopped to think what a Destiny 3 would even be at this point. Bungie are 2 for 2 on horrible launches that took at least a year to start getting barely better, Bungie lost half of its studio to layoffs and the main story people were wanting to see the conclusion to has concluded. Destiny 3 would genuinely, truthfully be nothing more than extra piss is Destiny fans mouths. But then again, that's what they enjoy the most.

[@tylerjenkins4030]

The game isn't fun to play therefore people play other more fun games

[@GregariousGrog]

Agreed, I like “Bungie gave up on Destiny, so did I”

[@turtlesallthewaydown8831]

It really is that easy to understand. It feels like work not something I want to do because it’s fun.

[@qazisgone7292]

Although no the same genre i just swapped to Marvel Rivals

[@iPandaku]

Bruh the amount of copium in this video is insane, Aztec said it best “when you have to make a guide for a mission and the guide needs to have a bug guide in it aswell isn’t it”

[@christophwaltz8919]

Aztec is trash.

[@JQDeathFromAbove96]

I won’t support a D3 if it launches with D2 being in such a poor state. Only a gullible desperate fool would support D3 if D2 isn’t fixed.

[@IveBeenWithBruma]

Only if Sony 100% takes over the project. If bungie keeps it it will be worse than d2 vanilla.

[@JQDeathFromAbove96]

@ I mean if you’re holding out for Sony you’ll be waiting forever. Sony is the greediest gaming company.

[@Waxedem9199]

False , probably because you’ve played for ten years. I started last year and I love it and if d3 came out I’d be stoked

[@JQDeathFromAbove96]

@ you are the minimal minority bud. Most players will not bother being scammed all over again. But please continue to simp and shill for a developer that gives zero phuqs about you.

[@Dnizzle25]

​@JQDeathFromAbove96 wow a "simp" lmao over a video game man yikes

[@kylew7398]

It's too grindy, takes up too much time of your life to play, and for a professional adult with a family there isn't enough time or desire for that crap. I haven't been able to complete any of the last few seasons, and when I begin playing again to catch up, I'm not even sure what to do anymore.

[@legacy6519]

Played Destiny 1 and been here since the beginning of D2 but just like Cade, i will choose not to return if they make D3. Grinded so much and met a lot of great guardians, but i just don’t have the energy and enthusiasm to start again. It’s been super fun, though, even with all the ups and downs, I’ve always made the best of it.

[@IsraTheBlack]

They should have released Destiny 3 years ago. This game lasted for far too long. At this point I don't think Bungie will even survive long enough for Destiny 3. It's the most consumer unfriendly game with all the FOMO that's in it. I genuinely wanted to come back to play it after I quit when they said they were going to sunset gear which would invalidate everything I ever did in the game, but there is just too much I missed which made me say nope I'll wait until D3...

[@fohhee]

2024 Dawning RNG behind a RNG behind a RNG behind a RNG to farm weapons and emblems

[@dragonscale9832]

If they made a destiny three, they would either have xivu arath or a whole extinction of the guardians and slowly rebuild again with new things than before. Not only that, bungie could have made the last expansion way better with cayde staying honestly. Seeing him just come back help with expansion and then go again, even though I never got to experience something great with cayde before, is really upsetting. I was expecting something bigger. All of us were probably. I wanted cayde to experience something with us again. Not just be there, do your purpose then leave again.

[@Corion2121]

Destiny is so dead, I kept trying to find a game of Onslaught, only to be paired with the same noob who clearly didn’t know yet how to play. No thank you! 🤨👎🏿🗑️

[@louisanderson226]

They need a shake up. Right now they should be giving away exotics....

[@christopherpate7204]

I'm tired of paying for content then it gets taken out of the game...

[@humanactivated1017]

Crazy you must be really tired since they hasn’t happened since 2020 , seasonal content is called seasonal for a reason .

[@mk.........]

Bungie had to somehow reduce the amount of GB cause the consoles ran out of space.

[@desktopbrowser9934]

@@humanactivated1017 Problem is that incredibly relevant story beats and plot points are put into seasonal content that is then removed from the game. If seasonal content is designed to be removed it should not be plot relevant.

[@kylenader7276]

@@humanactivated1017do you realize your paying 100$ a year for said seasonal content which includes weapons you won’t be able to get after it gets removed as well every piece of story content as well?

[@lordwurst9331]

​@desktopbrowser9934 Yes and designing content to be removed in 12-4 months dosent exacly motivate to make good content.

[@dh7367]

Ive been saying it for years no one wants to endlessly grind for marginally better loot, we need fresh experiences that are fun to play, we need fresh enemies with new abilities that have evolved with ours, we need fresh compelling stories with consequences that push us to play.

[@powerjae4651]

These live service games don’t respect people’s time it’s no wonder they all fail.

[@Daemonic6]

I wouldn't say that, Warframe live service looter-shooter but for 11 years it feels good, new content, new frames, new guns, now it less grindy.

[@joaoah]

The game seems balanced towards the streamers play time 😂

[@Nauticus7314]

All except warframe you mean

[@Daemonic6]

@@Nauticus7314 Welp i played only in Destiny and Warframe)

[@isaak999]

​@@joaoah DING DING DING! That's all there is to it. I remember being around 14-15 years old, seeing KZbin videos and live streams and I always thought that it would ruin gaming. It would be catered to the people promoting their games on KZbin and live streams. Aaaaaand, I was right.

[@Quicksilver314]

The reason the count is dropping is bc of the lack of crafting in new weapons, multiple ridiculous currencies, stupid potions, terrible seasonal activities, wasting players time, etc. I love the mechanics and play of the game, but Bungie is not appreciative of player time availability.

[@jaypey8253]

nope , even when crafting was there people dropped off, so its not that, people liked the rng and excitment of getting new rolls, also theres crafting this season, gadren raid weapons are craftable. people just didnt like the rng to get an rng weapon, its too much rng. i agree with these dumb currencies and bad seasonal stuff, no cool armor, everything is eververse, we should be able to earn those cool armor sets or finishers

[@wredue3733]

@@jaypey8253 Just wrong. Major expansions always see their dips, but the player base was its healthiest when it respected player time which was while crafting was live. It 100% IS that they are disrespecting your time that the player count is imploding. The real funny part is that you have all these people telling you why they quit, and you're like "nah, actually that's not why you quit".

[@h2s_lazyi763]

I love D1 and D2; but we need fresh ; and new content that doesn’t feel like reheated restaurant food . 😢

[@kjax139]

But don’t worry, we will always remember those that said the game isn’t dying pre AND post final shape. We remember them so we can laugh at them. We told you

[@LwandleDlamini_]

"Don't play if you don't want to", lol we did exactly that and they're shocked they can't lfg for activities. That's insanely funny😂

[@kjax139]

@@LwandleDlamini_ lmfao!! 🤣🤣

[@chelsthegameruiner8669]

​@@LwandleDlamini_It's satisfying to see them realize far too late. The PSO2 New Genesis community had this EXACT mindset and by the time they came to their senses, the game had already been at a record low in terms of players

[@IxCatDaddyxI]

I remember whenever it was truly rewarding for you and your fireteam to get exotic now they're just giving them away like candy

[@stevebeaumont12]

I'm surprised a game like this lasted 7 years, as a new player earlier this year the game is so elitist and unwelcoming to new players. The leveling for a newer player is like a full-time job just to play the content and the people who raid and play trials expect everyone to be saltagreppo or saywallah or you get kicked and told to die. GMs are also uninspired and the loot is terrible. I only come back for the seasonal events and Dungeons.

[@okamisan3642]

D2 needs new, fun game modes. They got no problem introducing new skins at stupid high prices. But a new game mode? Nah. Need new leadership.

[@dez7649]

What they need is a area where solos can practice raid/dungeon mechanics so we could learn!

[@shary1116]

The removal of craftable weapons just removed all motive for me to play the episodes. Im not going to grind for god rolls of mid guns.

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

I don't even think it's crafted vs drops that are the issue. It's that we get like no drops for the amount of time you have to put in for each difficulty. Imagine if after every activity, encounter, etc you had a Borderlands or Diablo/PoE level of loot explosion. Well we'd have to also imagine a post master or character inventory large enough to grab them but if each raid encounter dropped like 5+ weapons each time? More players would do raids. Same with activities. People would be running Onslaught if each chest burst out with several item drops at a time. But we don't. We get like 1 to maybe 3 at most for committing like 10+ minutes for with most being trash. That's why crafting felt good because at least eventually you could get the red borders THEN NEVER TOUCH THAT ACTIVITY AGAIN lol. That's not good. You should WANT to keep doing more of the activity. It's just none of it ever feels rewarding enough.

[@dionstewart7394]

Same, this season having literally a short ass cutscene as it's story coupled with the removal of crafted seasonal weapons really put me off of the game. And I'm someone that was a daily player. I'm not trying to be put to the mercy of these weirdos that want everything to be dependent on bungies trash rng. When they removed that they pushed out a good portion of the playerbase even though no one wants to admit it.

[@dionstewart7394]

​@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 Nahh, the crafted issue is definitely one of the big ones for sure. I went from super excited for Revenant to not giving a damn like a day before release once I realized they were removing crafting to double down on terrible rng. I went from maybe logging on 1 time per week during this season to nothing at all. Some people don't want to have to endlessly grind a game to get stuff.

[@nickheatonbey2549]

Sunsetting and Beyond Light expansion did such damage to the community that even Kackis forgot it existed 😂

[@Daemonic6]

I think they more fucked up when decide to abandoned PvP for years, PvP it's constant online which be playing even if seasons are deep shit.

[@IveBeenWithBruma]

​@Daemonic6 Don't forget the lack of in game hacker prevention. The hacker population has no right in being as high as it is for a AAA game.

[@Daemonic6]

@@IveBeenWithBruma Here need to say thanks Bungie that they decided to save money and implement P2P, cause this networking are unsecure, has problem with stability and even can easily be infected with virus. So to find all of the cheaters(or even small part of them) need to spend just numerous time and resources.

[@renatocampos5712]

I've been saying this since 2022, what could kill Destiny 2 would be 2025, what they were going to do after Final Shape. And unfortunately that's it, having to look for another game, HellDivers or Warhammer and move on, sad, 10 years, I've been playing since the release of D1, sad.

[@VIDireWolfIV]

I have about 4k hours in this game since 2017. I love the universe and the game itself, like I don't think anybody can disagree when i say this but Bungie has and always will be the GOATs of Gunplay ever since Halo CE. With that being said the story is finished we beat the bad guy so why continue playing beyond that? Now say you want to continue beyond that well what do you have to look forward to? Not a whole lot, the episodes are very boring and they're just seasons with less content. Okay great at least the core gameplay is still fun what about raids? Well people tend to kick others for just wanting to learn and friend groups tend to already have 6 so they're not very open and clans can be very toxic. The rest of the game is just boring and huge time sinks. Why would I want to play a game when there's no reason to grind for said gun when they reversed sunsetting, because hottake sunsetting was good they just needed to tone it down. That all being said I don't want Bungie to fail, they've been my go to game dev since I first played Halo CE as a kid so I want them to do well it's just they can't at the moment. They can't compete with others when the experiences are better in other games.

[@chincemagnet]

Destiny 3 would takes years, it’s far too late for that. As soon as marathon flops, Bungie will get shut down.

[@Corion2121]

Maybe Bungie should do a better job of creating an environment in which players will want to engage with. 😐 Just a thought…

[@swktmk]

I used to be a PVP player but they ruined PVP’s 6v6 playlist. Now it’s just an ability spam fest where you’re getting hit with some sort of ability or dodge/shield on every single engagement. There’s almost no gun fight, it’s just ability spam or 1 shot kill BS. And they took away Clash team death match playlist. I don’t want to jump into PvP to capture zones all the time, I just want to run and gun. Getting Black Ops 6 was so refreshing, the movement feels kind of like Destiny but the PVP is 1,000,000 times better.

[@casual_flex]

B06 is the same recycled shit cod been feeding y'all for years

[@swktmk]

@ which game isn’t the the same recycled shit? Every big title game people play is just recycling old stuff but upgrading the graphics and controls.

[@Nauticus7314]

​@@casual_flex so is destiny 2 with its shit content. Your point?

[@redandblack9819]

Destiny is not COD. You're gonna go up against some abilities/supers lol and no, not "ability spam"

[@swktmk]

@@redandblack9819 every single engagement though? Come on. You have to admit it's kind of ridiculous.

[@robjohnson3376]

I ran one of the legendary lost sectors for an hour or so each run took me 5 minutes and I got something like 400 dawing shite.

[@nuramaruu2848]

Players who work couldn’t enjoy the game whenever a season was removed. This player base wants to play at their own pace, so they would miss out on content. Now that the content is stretched out, it’s easier to enjoy. However, what they should do is add permanent story content to the game, allowing players to progress through it until they catch up to the endgame players. They need to make the game more like Destiny 1, without vaulting content.

[@sammer021486]

This is how I feel too. Between work, family and life, having time gated content makes it so that I either have to play long hours into the night or just not bother because I won't have time to complete it. Giving the option to play past content for completion value and allowing players to grind all content currently locked behind silver is something that will add play value to the game for me again. It would be nice to have the expansions as separate downloads so that you could complete it.

[@EtotheFnD]

Me and Rick Kackis will be here until the end

[@cptblargington7556]

Honestly I’m just done with Destiny 2. I just want a good D1 PC port or total remaster

[@Dillondeitz]

They always bring me back. I’ll play for hundreds of hours until that dreaded moment where you boot up the game, load into the tower……… and then turn it off. Just deleted the game again. God bless you, guardians I love you all so much

[@bloodmoonangel8925]

Saying we need Destiny 3 is absolutely laughable. Sure, make a new game, but new game doesn't mean new devs. Be ready for half-assed content, nonsense nerfs and pointless grind all with a shiny new "3" instead of a 2

[@tomz6594]

I'm also blown away with haven't reworked Dawning. I haven't interacted with Dawning, Festival of the Lost, or Solstice the past 2 years. I can't be the only one ignoring them.

[@TheAntWatcher]

Im just tired of the game disrespecting my time. And if they didn’t put the act system into the game, and dropped all the content at launch. Then maybe I’d want to jump on, but when a gotcha game respects my time over D2 then there’s a time for a change.

[@DavidTerry-c3h]

They made it so new players can't just jump in and play the game. How many hours would it take a new player to get all the subclasses, fragments, etc. just to be able to compete in PVP or higher end PvE. Bungie made the grind so massive that players don't even want to switch characters and get missing subclasses or fragments on a different class character. Let alone grinding for the meta weapons.

[@amikagahbo2487]

Its actually quite impressive you can stretch out a 1 sentence headline to a 17 minute yapping fest video. Well done sir. Milk 🥛 it milk 🥛 it

[@LeMarquand]

😂😂😂 yapping fest. Hilarious isn't it. A lot of D2 content creators have gone back to D1. Crazy

[@Richforever69]

True bro hating on the same thing that made him 😂😂😂

[@kylenader7276]

Bro commented before even finishing the video 😭

[@amikagahbo2487]

@@kylenader7276 ain't no way I'm sitting thru 17 minutes of this bro u crazy 😂 that got me thinking tho I wonder what his average watch time per video is id guess like 3 minutes

[@josefhill1515]

Maybe watch something else? 🤷🏻‍♂️ Just sayin’….

[@kailuun]

Next Dawning, they need to go back the formula for the first Dawning back in D1. This revolved around 3 things. Daybreak Strikes, Mayhem Clash (Which also included Iron Banner Mayhem) and SRL. It was an incredibly fun time to be playing. Bungie could go back to that with those three activities running. But let the rewards actually be worth our time to play. Have all three activities drop a tonne of rewards including Dawning weapons and armour, world drop weapons, enhancement cores, enhancement prisms and a tonne of Dawning Essence, cookie ingredients and Dawning Spirit. High Scores in the Daybreak Strikes, match wins in Mayhem and podium finishes in SRL would grant additional rewards. Now you would still bake cookies and deliver them but you would get Dawning Engrams.and these can be focused as normal with Eva Levante. However let the Dawning Engrams drop a lot more often than Gifts in Return do now. The Dawning should be a time where we get to cut loose, get good weapons, nice armour and lots of upgrade materials. Not what we have now.

[@gogito14]

Destiny started dying After we killed the witness. I felt completed he was a 10 year big boss so when he died it was like what’s next…

[@LE-xo9in]

No destiny has been dying since forsaken they just keep beating a dead horse.

[@benson7374]

I played destiny because the story was captivating, and the gameplay was fun, but now the story feels like there aren't any stakes, and the gameplay just isn't the same, they took away our snowball spawners, I can't roleplay jolly artillery now, I only log onto D2 to gild Iron Lord because I'm devoted more to a cosmetic flex than the ongoing story

[@Daband1t]

since sony took over no PS user wants to pay for DLC's but also have to pay to play with others with ps+, im on PC but gave up on the game as its crap content

[@Daemonic6]

If Sony doesn't buy Bungie they just get bankrupt. Plus it's Bungie's fault of the state of the game.

[@VagabondChimp]

I long for a D3 as much as anyone else does, but for that to work, they have to use an already established engine (consider all the bugs let loose due to a non-existent QC team) and retire the tiger engine. Otherwise, it will just be "D3" in name only similar to Overwatch 2

[@TKAandMore]

And even if they iron out all the technical kinks, they'd have to address that both Destiny launches have been horribly undercooked. When D2 launched there was still a lot of momentum coming off of D1. That momentum's petered out, and might not carry into a new title. When people say D3 will get people coming back, I just don't believe them, at least not enough people staying for long enough to keep the series alive. If D3 launches the way D2 and D1 did, those people who are coming back are probably just going to leave again.

[@pulvurcm2487]

Waste of money and time playing.. it's the same empty promises every season or act or whatever they call it.. it's boring! PvP is dead.. I can't get matches in comp so no point playing. There is no casual 6v6 TDM.. D2 is now just a big cash-grab scam. I have over 4k hours 😂 the game is killing itself. And the Devs are f kn stupid.. I got banned on D2's steam community page cause I was too right for them 😂

[@deansalah8810]

Woke Activists infested Bungie and destroyed Destiny 2

[@DioStandProud]

Oryx is canonically a t man. Stop pretending you ever cared about woke anything.

[@funny7]

the player count being low right now was always so predicable. This season/episode is the worst ever, no story to come back for, craftable weapons to go for. On top of that loads of bugs, nothing to look forward to. If they added some good craftable weapons to go for i dont doubt the population would spike.

[@nukecorporations]

meanwhile helldiver is now back to 220k its strange what a game can achieve when the dev listen to the player base

[@ParagonGoetia]

Its at 120k peak on steam no? I can never say to other platforms because we never get official numbers outside of Steam.

[@raevenent751]

@@ParagonGoetia In game has a tracker that tracks players that are on right now across *both* PS and PC. It was definitely around that the night the Illuminate came out

[@nukecorporations]

@@raevenent751 it was also 220k 2 day ago when the car became a stratagem

[@GeraltofRivia89]

We won't see any promises or increases in content until we see how Marathon goes. I'm baffled they've neglected Destiny this much but until we see what happens with Marathon we don't know what the future of Destiny will be

[@waltermercado9152]

Still no D3, I see.

[@jimmyjohnson6287]

D3 to save the franchise!

[@aidenfriel5722]

Hopefully 🙏🏻 but it's not looking likely

[@jaypey8253]

it wont fix anything, still be bugs, less content, and all these new players will leave after 2 months of no new content and they would have abandoned d2 for a smaller game

[@bigzach7778]

About to get a new series x and get back into destiny 2? How much does everything cost from Lightfall on?

[@Kahless_the_Unforgettable]

I'm super excited about skipping Marathon. My interest in that is off the chart (down, way below the chart). Destiny 3 would be great. Now that Luke Smith is gone, we might be able to get a near perfect version of Destiny!

[@marcusfenix9534]

I would love to rewind the clock to the Taken King era, Black Armory through Menagerie and Forsaken.

[@bigtone231]

It's time for Bungie to move on to a different IP

[@themythmaster736]

I bought tfs recently and I am worried if it was worth it or not, any opinions?

[@harrisnelson8014]

As it should

[@jessieflores5299]

I only play for bright dust now. And crucible after long day of work. Thats it. Waiting for Destiny 3!

[@traemaxwell]

Tried playing a run of Crota's End. I had watched a few guides and had a idea of how the encounters played out. I was kicked when they found out I had never run it before. Tried to form my own group and spent over an hour looking for peps to run with. That is a major hinderance when a big chunk of the content in your game is PVE group content. The gatekeeping is just ridiculous.

[@Shikyouu]

it's better to let go then force a game to evolve

[@misaelaguila5410]

I will always love this game but I’m done

[@juanduarte9714]

They need to keep the Coil and just build around it. Different zones, enemy types and just throw in old season weapons and armor in the loot pool. They also need to less stingy with resources holy shit, like just make the cap 999 for everything because it’ll just give players the feeling that they are being rewarded.

[@DoNotFreeze79]

Everything that doesn't involve actively fighting, feels like a chore.

[@mythic34567]

I don’t understand how big games like this miss so hard on smaller things like for example not auto applying the tonics

[@TurkeySanga]

I haven't played since beyond light. Is it worth buying all the other expansions and coming back to experience them? I loved playing D1 and D2 but got burnt out and haven't come back since. It's sad seeing destiny dying.

[@Mattblaze1477]

I knew the game was cooked the first time I saw one of those cringe vidocs with pronouns all over the screen. Remember when Bungie didnt care about any of that shit the day Destiny 1 launched. Man, completely and totally ideologically captured.

[@LE-xo9in]

What low brow comment that has no bearing on why destiny is actually failing.

[@ethan_ls27]

as a fairly on and off player i have a bad habit of playing a season episode etc consistently over playing all the seasons gradually so i miss out on new exotics armours and yearly events. the issue with destiny is that once you’re out of playing it there’s genuinely nothing that brings you to get back to it. So i tend to play loads in one episode and because they drag on for so long same seasonal event and guns etc you eventually stop playing, and this will repeat for ages until you stop playing for a long period and all the tiny TINY content updates add up and you repeat the cycle, very hard to be an active player on destiny

[@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire]

Here’s my suggestion to Bungie: *_Take the resources and manpower that go into the big yearly expansion, and subdivide amongst the Episodes we now have. Make it so that every 4 months we have a new mini-expansion, and that every 2 months in the middle of THOSE 4 months we get an update that’s almost the size of the older seasons._*

[@John_R_Jackson_III]

Maybe Bungie should change the garbage cross save system they have. I built my dream PC and sold my Series X and PS5 and when i tried to link my Steam to my Bungie account I was told I have to wait 90 days to be able to link my Steam account. Maybe this is one of the reasons Bungie can't retain players because they have the most pathetic cross save system that I have ever seen lmao. In a way they deserve this All-Time Low player count.

[@Dredgen_Wrath]

For me a big part of my dip out was both the beginning of act story release - when you complete all of it in an hour or so and don’t even realize you finished ALL of it for the entire act…. The other being dropping the seasonal weapon crafting. I never did enjoy the grindy grinding one weapon for hours and hours to get a roll that was good. With craftable seasonal weapons, it was a collection completionionist mentality. At least under the old seasons I had a reason to log in at a weekly reset like ALL other mmos.