2017 13" MacBook Pro (No Touch Bar) - The Mac to buy in 2020?

[@KaganTech]

Here are some time stamps incase you need them: Intro: 00:00 Touch Bar Vs - Non-Touch Bar: 00:38 Design & Build Quality: 01:50 Retina Display/Screen: 02:57 Battery Life: 03:41 Performance: 04:37 4K Video Editing: 05:38 Headphone Jack: 07:54 Speakers: 08:38 Dongles: 08:58 Butterfly Keyboard: 09:54 Important Advice: 11:49

[@kani9212]

I have the same macbook pro fr 2 years from nw and it is really awesome! Nice vid!! But i have the 128GB version, anyways it is fr school only and it is rly rly nice!

[@henrywaters]

Legit thought this guy had 14 million subs because of how good he is.

[@KaganTech]

Haha, I absolutely "doesn't!". Thanks a lot for watching!

[@muyiwaadagunodo3072]

Bro, this video was soooo good it didnt even feel like i was watching a video. felt like you were talking to me! Nigerian to nigerian, i'm rooting for you my G!

[@KaganTech]

Thanks!

[@honoura1]

I felt the same way. I dont know if it's your good speech/style or your camera/lighting, but it really felt like we were gisting and I let you do all the talking

[@contentspy7477]

After he said I won’t advise you buy the 128g, well I just bought exactly that lol

[@f.13]

How does it work?

[@Urbajam]

I have that Mac and It hasn’t failed me yet!

[@maurod.3135]

+1!

[@rarasdfa12312]

Do you like the keyboard?

[@Кылыч-д7г]

HicKaPs keyboard is very laud

[@stezze]

How's ur battery? Mine is in service but still good

[@Urbajam]

stark I actually do a lot of video and photo editing and it actually caused my battery life to drain so easily but I went to Apple and they replaced it for me for free. I was actually 2 days before the warranty ended 😅. I got real lucky. Anyways follow me on IG @urbajamm to whoever reads this

[@sharankannan1]

This is exactly what I needed with a tight budget (I'm a student). Thanks man!

[@oscarmini]

Final piece of advice, "never buy the 128gb version". Nicely done chief.

[@mrsjaeger]

Why

[@spreadthread218]

LOLO when you get it will have only 100 gigs of storage and apps are getting bigger

[@rahimsabdel3776]

Agree 100% bro. 512gb way to go.

[@95chanz]

Very fair opinions on the MacBook Pro as an average consumer. I agree the Touch Bar is gimmicky and the headphone jack isn't useful for 80% of people, also agree you can live with dongles. Also the butterfly keyboard is not as bad as people think.

[@valorreviews]

sweet video as usual. speaker on the 13 inches is maddeux!!! the sound coming out of this small laptop is unbelievable

[@KaganTech]

AGREED!

[@dakotafearn]

Bring on the 2019 vs 2017 comparison video!

[@sheeneayracuti4514]

Bought a macbook pro 13” 2017 and it’s the best decision

[@aiken510]

watching this on my 2017 13'' non touch bar macbook pro :) to be honest, contrary to majority opinion, this is my favorite keyboard! I've had this for almost three years and it hasn't failed me yet.

[@vtxny]

um hi, do you recommend me that macbook pro because I saw one for 540 dlls. It has 8gb and 128gb

[@aiken510]

@@vtxny I can only speak for my own experience on my 2017 non touchbar mbp. The keyboard on this has really bad review over the years.

[@cuteatif19]

Quality of your content is up there with top tech you tubers. just a matter of time till you become one. keep going bro.

[@jakeglazzard4173]

The video I was looking for. Very well done on the video! Quality, music, thoroughness, all those factors were exceptional! Liked!

[@KaganTech]

Glad it was helpful!

[@geniusadjei]

Watching this on my new Macbook Pro 2017 13" 256 GIG. It's super sweet! Great video ❣️

[@KaganTech]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@denisragragio]

How many years have you used the laptop? How much was it the yr you bought it?

[@emilianopinedaperez]

Man you deserve millions of subs, great video, lots of effort on it. keep on going :)

[@joshkhanngaming2133]

Love this video bro! Convinced me to buy my first MacBook and i m so hyped 🙏❤️ all the love

[@RickAqua]

I’m definitely getting one of these Thanks for the video boss 😊

[@KaganTech]

Thank you chairman Rick!

[@FREDSTECHHUB]

Another amazing review boss, pls I want the comparison with the 2019 version

[@izziboye]

Nice 😁. Give us the comparison with the 2019 Mac book pro

[@KaganTech]

maybe I will!

[@thelettere.1645]

How does this not have at least 100k views yet???

[@KaganTech]

LOL

[@abdullaalaradi7560]

Brilliant video. You deserve more attention

[@mathemarsa]

I just bought it today. Let’s see how it goes

[@MPowerRSA]

How has been holding up? Are you enjoying your experience?

[@soson001]

Thanks for the video, your voice is amazing btw. O.o

[@KaganTech]

Thank you too!

[@ej16dags]

Finally found the Video that am now officially convinced to get the MacBook Pro 13" (2017) Non-Touch Bar despite the Butterfly Keyboard issue 🤯

[@danielafolabi2488]

Bruh! I just got this mac and decided to check out your video.. I love your voice bruh!

[@KaganTech]

I appreciate that!

[@jomarnavarro7]

Bought one used for under 800 USD a few weeks ago. No complaints. Perfectly fit for programmers.

[@Cartman5101]

Omar Navarro wow thats cheap

[@TheVincster]

got one for 600

[@softwareengineer2297]

Hi are u still using mac now? And how is your keyboard because i am going to buy it now any advice?

[@L.G.productions]

great review. i am actually watching this video on my macbook pro 2017 and i couldn't agree more. i just picked this up at best buy refurbished for 700$ and works great for everything i need it for so far.

[@ahmadallisoleman4126]

im buying refurbished one also for 1000$ in my country it costs more but the device itself do u recommend?

[@mar-rg9tf]

Hey ! How is laptop going so far?

[@L.G.productions]

@@mar-rg9tf great! No complaints

[@mar-rg9tf]

@@L.G.productions thank you for replying!! I have seen a lot of videos talking about how trash this laptop is , however I’ve just ordered it and now I’m really scared - I’m only planning on watching netflix and doing school work on it though so hopefully it’ll see me through the next 3 ish years

[@giddy5611]

@@mar-rg9tf bro how it's going for now 1 month also for me same i just want for school stuffs. Especially the battery and fan noise

[@Tony-zt3gj]

Nice editing and review 👍🏼 like that music to playing in the background

[@KaganTech]

Thanks Tony! You actually came back to watch! Lovely!

[@SubterraneanChick]

I had this exact model. Don't care about adapters or touch bar. For me, this ran terribly slow. Even with something simple as a 10-tab Chrome instance alongside a native word processor and a simple IDE such as Sublime or Code, this model ran hot and loud and the color wheel was a constant. It now sits quiet and cool on my shelf as I was forced to upgrade. My 2014 13" variant MBP ran smooth and cool alongside this one and it only has 128GB SSD. So, I still use the 2014 13" when on the move. Sucked when Apple dropped the quad-code.

[@Vleckss]

That’s my biggest gripe with this model it runs too hot and loud 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@ninjabro8736]

Hey, is this computer good enough to use for Google docs and in general school work

[@KaganTech]

Absolutely.

[@princeali316]

It's still very powerful. You can edit videos/make music etc on them.

[@SubterraneanChick]

Did you watch the video?

[@mhasan341]

dude I use it for professional app development !!

[@albertfebo8872]

Finally a reasonable video. All the drama regarding the keyboard from people who are cooking and chopping onions on their macbooks.... Thank you for creating this video!

[@mjf.3300]

I greatly appreciate your video, time, and personal preference. -Thank you

[@carvalho1990]

the vid is so professional, u need more subs. keep it going'!

[@jevondagreat3498]

Great video bro you really helped me out a lot

[@KaganTech]

Happy to hear it!

[@josueandaluz2819]

great video man, I have a 2017 which I got back in 2017 and I got it because im a computer scientist and it has not let me down, apple has replaced the entire computer basically because of my own error fault but they did it all for free, so its great machine, unless you want a machine for video editing or music stuff then get something better but for everyday use its a great machine, but great video keep it coming man

[@softwareengineer2297]

Hello are u still using it? And how is your keyboard because many people say that u should replace it soon? Did you replace it? Or did u use it well?

[@josueandaluz2819]

@@softwareengineer2297 Hey,Yes but no longer for work or projects I ended upgrading to the new ones. But still a great machine for basic stuff even running scripts but nothing extensive. I would recommend going for at least the 16gb of ram these days. or looking for a cheap M1 version the intel chips do heat up a lot. They keyboards to my surprise were good. I got apple to replace it but that was my fault for dropping soda on the keyboard. If you want something to just chill and not work heavy a great machine just look for the one with 16gb of ram.

[@rometherevenant8749]

Solid video brother. Subbed

[@bengaming5177]

how does this guy have only 15 k he deserves way more! typing this on a 13 inch 2017 model with the toucbar lol 😂

[@KaganTech]

Lol.

[@mar-rg9tf]

Hey 👋 I heard that the keyboard on this is really bad and I’ve just ordered one so I’m low-key scared , how is the keyboard for you so far?

[@gertrudisrubio7167]

Idk yesterday I watching a film"lover" assignment for class, you remind of a guy called Phil

[@rosasgael]

Great video you should have more subs for the quality and personality of your video keep up. Do you think Photoshop and illustrator work with out lag ?

[@KaganTech]

Photoshop worked without issues. But I never used illustrator, so I really can’t say.

[@chosenone9589]

Good video brother, great information. Keep it up

[@KaganTech]

Thank you.

[@prepressgh995]

Hello there, i kmow its been three years after you reviewed the macbook pro would you recommend for graphic design????

[@divinemoses8645]

Nice one bro big ups with the great work 🙏😊👍

[@Noor-uf1mz]

Is it still worth buying in 2024/2025 a 16 RAM 512 storage version for study and will it withstand the work for the next 15 years?

[@iktn132]

The mkbhd intro LOVE IT!!!

[@carvalho1990]

Actually you can upgrade your 128SSD to 256 or more, in this version (non-touch). Unfortunately the touch-bar version, the SSD is soldered to the motherboard.

[@randombutpro7547]

Well people who did that experienced worser battery life when compared to Apple's stock ssd and if you're concerned about that you probably shouldn't do it but I don't think its gonna be a major drop .

[@ondra3331000]

Very insightful video man! Thank you and Great job.

[@KaganTech]

Glad you liked it!

[@hamzaedd3602]

Good vid, can we get a suggestion for a good cheap wifi keyboard?

[@DejiAyoola]

Been using this exact MacBook for about 2 weeks and it's been beautiful

[@ahmadallisoleman4126]

still?

[@mar-rg9tf]

How is it going now?

[@dylanash2569]

I agree with all the points you made in this video. I have the 2017 Non Touchbar MBP with the core i7 and I love it. The TB MBP is shitty for productive users. No one really needs the gimmick bar. Apple really needs to give consumers a choice of keyboards. If someone wants the TB, then more power to them, otherwise give us say a cheaper 16in Pro without the touchbar and I would buy it in a heartbeat. Long live the 2017 Non Touch Pro!

[@KaganTech]

My brother!!!

[@simpletechreview3632]

Cool video! I got the 15 inch 2018 MacBook Pro base model (256gbs) around March of last year bc I wanted start doing more video and photo editing and as soon as I got it I went from working 80hrs a pay period to 120hrs!!! OT pay is good but after a year of running like that I think I'm about to fall back which would free up a lot of my time. Again great video man!

[@KaganTech]

That's a nice laptop... It's one of the next ones I am looking at picking up for review myself. Thanks for watching man!

[@sarahangelabautista291]

that is true. i agree with you it is long battery and im happy with the performance. nice the size of 13inch perfect for me. i dont like the touch bar because its annoying and the touchbar makes the battery low because of that

[@scottscage6409]

Let me just say that 128gb is fine for someone who doesnt plan to fill the machine up with stuff which would take up all that space; if you are someone like myself who just wants to use it to write - and keep backups of your material on external portable storage like flash drives anyway (because lets face it even the best apple products can fail - or what if it gets lost or stolen), or keep a few thousand songs in your itunes music library - which might take just about up to 20gb, maybe keep one or two games and movies that you really love, and the rest of your basic usage is internet, social media, maybe streaming stuff - then this will be perfect for you. I am not a gamer editor or programmer so I dont worry about that. I realize there are folks who do a lot of those other tasks and need space to keep files, in which case most likely 256 or even 512gb is better for them. Also I have one major question: how does this device hold up, generally speaking regarding overall performance, in 2021? Is it still worth getting now?

[@Suhlesste]

I’m starting college and I’m interested in getting this computer. I would use it do zoom, do school work, etc. Do you think this computer would be a good choice?

[@KaganTech]

It's an excellent choice.

[@jorgecurihuaman6108]

Thanks for give me a new idea about MacBook Pro 2017 man.

[@Kapplerartbloomingdale]

I love my 2017 Macbook i3 1tb Without touchbar. It's a great computer

[@patrikjohansson8351]

Great review! Thanks!

[@abdulqudusdere6204]

Really nice video. Answered most curiosities I had. Just came across this video today. Is there any chance you’re no longer using the MacBook Pro 2017 anymore. I’d really like it for my final year project and use it to learn data analysis.

[@1playyboyye]

is this good for editing youtube videos ?? i'm a content creator looking to buy the right one

[@PetersonBlanc]

Yes. Great video, now compare the 2017 to the 2019 and even the M1 MacBook, thank you

[@queendeche4555]

I bought the 2017 base model (128GB) brand new for $1000 exactly one year ago. I thought I got a great deal and I loved my laptop. To date, my logic board has failed 3 times and Apple has replaced my top case with battery. It's extremely annoying. I think I'm just gonna suck it up and upgrade it.

[@KaganTech]

That is a huge surprise. I have had 3 of these and not a single issue yet. I'm always so curious as to use case when I hear stories like this one.

[@queendeche4555]

@@KaganTech After doing more research, apparently Apple released a series of 128 and 256 models in 2017 with defective logic boards (or something that would cause LB failure). There's a program that services affected models one time for free. It's unclear what happens if it breaks again, as in my case.

[@queendeche4555]

@@KaganTech Here's the link: support.apple.com/13-inch-macbook-pro-solid-state-drive-service

[@KaganTech]

Guess I am just incredibly lucky then. None of my units were affected!

[@Whisper8819]

I'm glad I still have my 2017 MacBook Pro. I've been considering buying a newer one since my daughter needs a laptop, but I don't want to buy a new MacBook Pro because I still love this one.

[@KaganTech]

The 2020 with the new keyboard is a nice option

[@akascotman]

Got the same MBP - love it. I still run Catalina and rely somewhat on battery. Would you recommend upgrading to Monterey?

[@rochria]

So helpful, please can we have the 2017 v 2019 video!!

[@nordicomsystems8841]

I'm about to trade my Dell 15 7590 for a 2017 13" flagship MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM and a 512GB SSD. The Dell has a 9th Gen i7 six core and a GeForce GTX 1050 w/16GB of RAM. I use it for music production... recording guitars, playing virtual instruments etc. I know I'm going a step down spec-wise, especially in the CPU dept., I just hope it runs Logic Pro effectively. Great video too, very informative. Thanks!

[@dukins.a2257]

Yup, easy said and done, you have my honest subscription. This was not a product video, this was a face to face conversation. You’ve helped me get over the urge for the 2020 gimmick bar with 128 gb, thanks! 2017 13” MB Pro, forgotten treasure. I’m getting it.

[@KaganTech]

Dukins. A ha, glad I could help!

[@alejandramorales3629]

Very well made video

[@KaganTech]

Why thank you!

[@bnnett]

Hey great review, what's your accent I'm getting some West African vibes.

[@KaganTech]

I'm Nigerian.

[@bnnett]

Yea I could pick up on it a bit I'm Nigerian also. Clean Video Bro

[@KaganTech]

@@bnnett thanks!

[@aggressivelyadamant6063]

The moment he said “Aluminium” you know he is not from America. Americans say it weirdly.

[@KaganTech]

Lol yeah... they say aluminum.

[@admorealzate3150]

Thanks bro! Just got my MacPro 2017, 13-inch, and it's 249.68GB as per your advice. What video editing software do you use? Thanks.

[@KaganTech]

I use Final Cut Pro X.

[@DejiAyoola]

This video is gold!

[@paulvincentprado777]

is a 128gb 13" Macbook Pro 2017 enough and worth it?

[@goldfella2409]

Hey brother, thanks for this!

[@KaganTech]

You are very welcome!

[@donedrong]

Really appreciate your video! Can you do a comparison with the Macbook Pro 2020? It’s the potential butterfly issue of 2017 vs touch bar of 2020 that still concern me! I gotta buy one fast:(

[@KaganTech]

I can just tell you off the bat to get the 2020. Performance wise it's far superior if that's important to you. Also while I never had issues with butterfly keys many did not like it. You can learn to ignore the touchbar I suppose. I already ordered a 2020. But with all the issues going on right now. Might be a while before I get my hands on it unfortunately.

[@donedrong]

Kagan noted, thank you so much! Yeah many of the shops here are experiencing delay in receiving the 2020 model. I hope you will get yours soon and review that to us viewers :D

[@mhasan341]

I use it for, Android Studio, XCode, Unity, Flutter, Laravel (PhpStorm). So far good, only when it gets hot, screen causes problem. I use external monitor with no problem. Recently ordered an Adapter so I can update the internal SSD from 256 to 1tb (yes it is upgradable, just different socket). Have no plan to upgrade this year. I will upgrade to later apple silicon SOC. 8GB, 256GB, non touchbar. (current config)

[@saracyber1]

Hi.. Which problem does the screen have when the machine gets very warm?

[@mhasan341]

@@saracyber1 the bottom starts to get dark, and if you keep it open, it gradually makes half of the screen dark. ONLY with the attached display, you won't notice anything in external display that I use. I guess heat makes some connection unstable.

[@saracyber1]

@@mhasan341 i had a screen problem too, then I replaced it a week ago with a new LCD. Previously, mine was glitchy so bad and turned to be purple glitch after 6 months. Appart from heat, I think it caused by unstable electricity plug connection too. After replacing my LCD, I hope it won't have the same problem anymore

[@mhasan341]

@@saracyber1 can you give me any link to that LCD plz? how much did it cost to you? TIA

[@saracyber1]

@@mhasan341 the cost is at around 500 euros.. I gave you links but the comments always been deleted. Idk why

[@AyrinSky23]

Is macbook pro 2017 in retina display?

[@stevoforce]

I knw when i hear a naija man. Wetin you think now the 2020 ver get the esc key separately atleast with the touch bar? Will it change your mind a lil bit? I want to pick one with the m1 chip

[@KaganTech]

The m1 macs are excellent purchases. I appreciate the physical escape key, but man... let them just get rid of the entire touchbar.

[@Lord_of_The_World]

Currently have the MBP 13" 2017. Thinking of upgrading to the 2020, but I think I will holdout for a while. Excellent video!. Thank you.

[@KaganTech]

The 2020 is an excellent upgrade. I'm in the middle of upgrading to a 16" myself.

[@ittslilbyroncuh]

Should I get this used for $600 or the 2020 MacBook Air?? Average user /college student here

[@lovettosagie6721]

Hi, just wondering if I should get the 2018 MacBook Air as I’m starting college and hope to use it for at least 5 years?

[@ohyoonhee9675]

hi,still good in 2021??i dont have laptop b4 this and could it last 4/5 years later??im a student and sooner i will futher my study to university

[@corywolfe404]

Just bought one and did it!!!

[@MPowerRSA]

How was it holding up in 2024?

[@arturo5050]

Can you change the SSD on this computer? Or the SSD is pripriotitary of apple?

[@Kapplerartbloomingdale]

I bought this macbook pro intel i5 2.33 ghz iris 640 graphics 1tb hdd no touch bar and I love it. As compared to my HP Pavillion x350 i5 tenth gen touchscreen with same hard drive, this mac is quicker than that laptop. I think I've found my publishing laptop

[@vikyosa4651]

Thank you so much bro👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🤲🏼🤲🏼

[@surjboy_1]

My laptop just pack up now....just checking this review out again.....battery live great but as a programmer, I dont think its gonna work because of the high working hours.

[@d3fenc367]

I love my 2017 A1708. Agree about the keyboard - I love typing on it. I bought the 128gb version, but I'm just about to swap out the removable Apple ssd with a Sabrent 1tb 2242 Nvme ssd. You can't do that on the touchbar versions as it's soldered onto the motherboard - sweet!

[@softwareengineer2297]

Hello i am going to buy this laptop but many people say that its keyobard is very bad and will break soon. Whats your experience

[@TrifonMihaylov]

Thank you for the good video!

[@deathmarkpejoi]

i love your review.

[@KaganTech]

Thanks.

[@cheryltan8959]

Bought the same base model in 2017 but recently my battery died, and that is only about 300+ charge cycle. I don't even use it for extreme tasks like video or photo editing, just normal everyday use for work. Is it just me being unlucky? :( :(

[@alexanderlopezdiaz4212]

This is a great review! Thanks for doing it. I have a question, do you still recommend this Macbook Pro to a student in a tight budget? I see them refurbished/renewed Amazon with i5 and 256 Gbs, what do you think? Is it still worth buying in 2022?

[@KaganTech]

If you could spend a little more an M1 air might be a better buy.

[@alexanderlopezdiaz4212]

@@KaganTech Thanks for responding so fast. Do you know of a page where I could get good used/refurbished deals for those?

[@KaganTech]

@@alexanderlopezdiaz4212 There is usually great deals to be had on eBay. I bought an open box one for just over 700 the other day.

[@cenyoolando9124]

I love your vidéo very Legit

[@Swedishmumy]

got one Used the macbook pro 2016 still deciding either to buy or no! or i should go for macbook pro 2015' Haven't no yet which is best?

[@heyediots4206]

Mᴜᴍʏ ᴄʟɪɴᴛᴏɴ 2015

[@floriseycken2916]

Could I work with Xcode on this MacBook pro 2017?

[@KaganTech]

Yes. Used with xcode. Ran fine.

[@dwayneshaffer1914]

I just bought a 2017 MBP with 16GB RAM and 256GB HD for $625. Hopefully, I won't have any issues since I've heard about the keyboard issues.

[@brich2929]

that's a great price with the 16GB

[@jeffreyleung4806]

Im gonna buy a used 2017 Macbook Pro 16gb of Ram, 512 ssd, and with a core i7 for $550.

[@f.13]

Is this or the surface book 1 better? For 1080 videos editing and lite gaming?

[@ayobamiokla]

Well explained!

[@KaganTech]

Thanks Ayobami!

[@novusordoseclorum1915]

just purchased the 256g version....is this one good enough to run logic pro? or Reason 10?

[@sterloan3737]

Even though the CPU on this thing is slower than the 2020 MBA...it’s still faster thanks to better cooling.

[@kimfadavi8714]

I’m picking up a used 2017 pro it’s 3.1 ghz 8gb ram and 256gb ssd (Touch Bar)i was kinda scared bout it but has better specs then the 2018 so hopefully everything works good 😩 MacBook pros last a long time right? Like I’ll be able to use it for a couple years?

[@KaganTech]

Like all things Apple. Maintenance culture matters. As long as you use it well... you should be fine. Also... as long as no preexisting issues from old owner.

[@kimfadavi8714]

Kagan thanks for the replyyyy and yea I saw pictures and everything and he took really good care of it and only used it for a year for school work and the rest was just for like watching Netflix and everything and the battery cycle count is only at 108 so there’s no issues I think 😂

[@Suhlesste]

@@kimfadavi8714 do you have an update on how the computers working now ? (:

[@kimfadavi8714]

@@Suhlesste amazing almost a year w it and is still great, make sure the specs are 3.1 ghz not the normal base 1.2 or whatever. make sure it has a good amount of storage (less storage the more slow it will get) but other then that really good. it looks exactly like the newer models so it doesnt look dated like older MacBook airs n pros obviously.if ur thinking bout it try to find a 2017 model. I ABUSE TF outta the Touch Bar cuz of how fun it is and it still works perfectly

[@Suhlesste]

@@kimfadavi8714 thank you for responding with very specific details❤️ it helped so much! Definitely getting this computer for college!

[@adrianabrooks-baymon3914]

What do you think of the front-facing camera? Is it clear?

[@KaganTech]

It's the same camera that has been on MacBooks for 10 years. Nothing changed. It's useable but not great.