Not sure why there were zero pump spells here? Fatal Frenzy or Rush of Blood after a Larger than Life puts Kalamax as a 30 plus power trampler and he can one shot people turn 4 or 5. That would be the Definition of Mean IMHO. Playing him in a control deck could be nice but I really feel like he wants to swing in.
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
It's not in there because I didn't think of it!! lol. I love that suggestion! I was totally focused on spellcasting with Kal, which is weird bc normally I'm all in on aggressive strats.
@jakebrodowski94 жыл бұрын
@@JakeandJoelareMagic My First draft of my Kalamax is gonna have like 7 Sorcery Speed Pump Spells around 17 or 18 Instant Speed Pump spells and Probably 10 of each for Card Draw and Removal. I'm running like 7 mana Rocks and 10 One or two CMC Creatures for Ramp. I'm only using like maybe 10 cards that are in the original deck. Also with Kalamax there are like 7 or 8 instants Copy spells in blue and/or red that Trigger infinite +1/+1 counter loops. The only thing you have to worry about is having a new legal target to copy.
@josuanachname19144 жыл бұрын
There is this green thing that taps enchanted creature when cast and gives +20/+20. Ah, Colossification is the name. 5GG cost. After that an instant with untap and deal damage would be nice. Gotta try to find such a thing.
@darken55583 жыл бұрын
@@JakeandJoelareMagic I dunno if control feels that mean with Kalamax really (you want some). He goes infinite easier than most commanders due to copying a copy himself which let's you do stuff like copy fling and punch people in the face for 100,000 damage or something. But then he's got some built in combos where if you can get to 3 copies like twinning staff or primal wellspring get real stupid. Arcane denial lets you draw 4 cards and counter a spell. Narsets reversal you can bounce itself and bounce their spell so for instance they cultivate and you stop the cultivate (they keep it) you keep reversal and you cultivate plus counters. Every turn like its buyback zero. Unsubstantiate you can counter a spell (back to their hand) or bounce a creature and keep it in your hand like its buyback 0. This gets way more stupid than like a capsize where you are paying like 6 instead of 2. Going infinite is just like opponent casts a cultivate you cast reverberate boom Kalamax is a 10,000/10,000 and you get 2 cultivates for 2 mana. Thats disgusting. (can Ral, Storm Conduit get a what what 10,000 copies)
@patrickpoirier71774 жыл бұрын
Those short tech videos are great! Ppl are sleeping on this channel..just shared to my friends!
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
Yo Patrick, thanks for the positive vibes! We appreciate the share! Any commanders you want me to cover?
@patrickpoirier71774 жыл бұрын
Jake and Joel are Magic My pleasure! Right now im building Nethroi//Umori deck! You insight would be awesome!:p im trying to challenge my deck building skills! But what im realy obsessed with at the moment is to find what the heck DOUBLE MASTERS V.I.P will be!!
@obscure_moore3 жыл бұрын
*explaining the mean way* *nexus of fate shows* *deep exhale* *looks of despair into the camera* "This is another card you can copy"
@jafavor4 жыл бұрын
Whenever you cast your first instant spell. Not sorceries.
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
yep! Did I misspeak at some point?
@pedroarruda65883 жыл бұрын
Copying a fork or twincast immediately goes infinite For instance Opponent plays cultivate You use twincast getting a copy of it if kalamax is tapped The original targets the cultivate and the copy targets twincast The copy of twincast resolves first letting you cast another copy of twincast with the original twincast still on the stack This is an infinite loop until you decide to not copy the original twincast on the stack or choose to copy the cultivate And with Kalamax second ability he gets infinitely large Or just win with Ral Zerek out since his ability triggers off of copying a spell
@austink.92234 жыл бұрын
One of the best ways to tap Kalamax is a new card from Ikoria. Parcel Beast =D
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
great point!
@PawzBrownMTG4 жыл бұрын
Very exciting tech thanks for your ideas
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for watching, Pawz! We are happy to have you :D
@chriscubbernuss32884 жыл бұрын
5:55 The end of the Stegosaurus tail is called a Thagomizer, in honor of the late Thag Simmons. Credit to Gary Larson.
@69Turnips Жыл бұрын
I'm running "arena of the ancients" in my kalamax edh deck so I hope that shows you how fun I plan to make it.
@benjaminkaye51194 жыл бұрын
What about convoke Chord of calling would be sweet. Earthcraft would work to tap your commander also.
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
These are good notes!
@jordanhatt68244 жыл бұрын
I like the video but I'd suggest putting in decklists in your about for the video if possible as alot of less skilled builders like myself enjoy to be able to look at the list aswell
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the idea! This has been highly requested and I'm going to work toward doing that for each video!
@kylesavage45254 жыл бұрын
Honor-Worn Shaku and Cryptolith Rite can keep Kalamax tapped as well and ramp. Jin-G is definitely a card to be put in the ''mean'' version. Also keep in mind that If ur first instant for the turn is a copy spell (lets say Reverberate) then u can make Kalamax inifinitely large with counters by having the copy Reverberate (from his ability) target the original Reverberate and keep on copying the copies until u decide a copy of it to target the spell that the original Reverberate was targeting. Add in the war of the spark Ral Zarek and your opponents are dead on the spot. Bounty of Might is a OHKO if Kalamax is unblocked. Become Immense can kill someone on the spot (assuming opponent does not block kalamax ofc) as well if Kalamax is an 8/8 prior to u casting it or anytime if u use an extra copy effect of uy own.
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. This is definitely a card we are keeping on the radar. A lot of people have started to brew with it and every combo seems more broken than the last.
@regaleagle65334 жыл бұрын
Using Kalamax as "ramp" is a mistake lots seem to be making imo. Casting your commander and then an enchantment just to get 1 mana out of tapping him is nuts. Making him unblockable and drawing 2 cards for 1 mana is just better get that sweet commander damage in. Bounty of might and become immense are okayish but going after static buffs like that makes the mana cost get high. What you want to look for is ways to take advantage of his built in +1/+1 counters like Berserk, Rush of Blood, Fists of Flame, Fatal Frenzy, Invigorating surge, hydra's growth. Why would I want to win for 6 mana when I can win for 3 mana with synergy? Or at the very least I want something back for my mana investment like Balduvian Rage to draw 2 cards + kill. If Kalamax is unblocked becomes less of a problem when you sub in shadow rift, leap and Aqueous Form and swap out shaku and crypto rites.
@baulsmahoney4 жыл бұрын
Love your deck techs
@benjaminkaye51194 жыл бұрын
Vehicles seems like a fun as hell
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
DINO DRIVERS
@benjaminkaye51194 жыл бұрын
Jake and Joel are Magic the new Mario kart
@bobbyz54433 жыл бұрын
Wow, THAT’s what Jiang does? I’ve only seen him in Japanese for some reason. He would be great in my +1/+1 squirrels deck
@brandonmcgraw48854 жыл бұрын
Would like to see a deck tech on a Vehicle Stompy deck with Kalamax!!! Know anyone that has one posted up yet?
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
lol that's such a fun idea XD did you find a full list?
@insanitygaming30274 жыл бұрын
Not yet! Just may have to brew it myself lol.
@davidarmstrong39644 жыл бұрын
Y’all hit that 2.5. Congrats!
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It was an exciting day!
@cochransj3 жыл бұрын
I am confused as to why you are doing so many things to give flash. That won't trigger any abilities on Kalamax. Seems like a divergence of the focus for him.
@MrDualityGaming4 жыл бұрын
Builds my kalamax deck, sees this video wonders what way i built it, oh oh okay mean way that makes sence lol
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
lol mean can be the dream some times XD
@jordanhatt68244 жыл бұрын
I intend to make mine be mean lol kalamax needs to flex
@koreyg85524 жыл бұрын
I feel he’s very cedh viable, how would you build a cedh version because that’s mainly what I play
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
Once we get the cards and can do a proper deckk tech on mtgo, we will be putting something together. Do you see any other cards in this lot that are cedh viable?
@regaleagle65334 жыл бұрын
Cedh for him is lots of abuse of going infinite and things like fling to make his murdering less interactable than combat. Low or no cost control like the new free with commander out spells or old school counter magic or even Not of This World seems pretty easy to pull off as a free counter but nobody seems to be using hrm. Plus ofc spark Ral. Narset's Reversal is completely broken but doesn't go infinite and tutors to find what you want.
@jakebrodowski94 жыл бұрын
You can't flash in Kalamax with an instant that gives him flash then play an Instant to copy. It says first instant cast each turn. So him having Flash in that way is not too great. Although the Can't be countered is nice.
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
That's a really good point and I think I misspoke on that. Including Quicken was more about the flavor of flash inclusions in the deck. You're 100% right.
@jakebrodowski94 жыл бұрын
@@JakeandJoelareMagic It does work well with The Leyline of Anticipation though.
@regaleagle65334 жыл бұрын
@@jakebrodowski9 Emergence Zone is a fun splash into any color deck as well to pull off shenanigans.
@diegop.63654 жыл бұрын
Idk if I'm missing something, but doesn't Kalamax specify about instant spells? Not sure if it will work with flash creatures and/or sorceries at instant speed...
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
You're definitely right. Flash creatures are more about building on theme. And with sorceries at instant speed, we want to copy the instant giving the sorcery flash... Essentially lets us backdoor a sorcery copy
@jhe7034 жыл бұрын
Do copied X-spells actually do something? Can u pay x for the copie? the copie will be without x and therefore do nothing - or do I get this wrong?
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
The copied X-spell will have the same value, is my understanding. So if you fireball for 6 and copy it, you get another fireball for 6.
@regaleagle65334 жыл бұрын
@@JakeandJoelareMagic That is 100% right pay fireball 6 and the copies do 6 damage also. You don't pay x for the copy or anything like that.
@bobbyz54433 жыл бұрын
Oloro please!
@ryujokatagiri70193 жыл бұрын
I'm still trying to get my hands on this deck 6:29 If it looks like a dinosaur, tramples like a dinosaur, and generates +1 counters like a Dinosaur, It must be a dinosaur!
@andrewkochevar57094 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or did he miss the infinite loop with twincast that can just win you the game if you have a ral or niv mizzet or aetherflux reservoir etc. on board?
@wilfulbuckle134 жыл бұрын
Niv and aetherflux are on cast not copy.
@chadwicknottingham4 жыл бұрын
This is good content, but would be better with decklists.
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. This is a series I intended to be a primer for the Commanders, but you're right and I've gotten that feedback - watch out for decklists to be added in the future.
@lanesteele2404 жыл бұрын
Where is ral storm conduit
@JakeandJoelareMagic4 жыл бұрын
Haha, just saw this interraction earlier today.
@lanesteele2404 жыл бұрын
Jake and Joel are Magic Ral zerek also taps a permanent and untaps another
@hcfc42483 жыл бұрын
For me this is absolute my style play copy the instant spell