Kaleid Gamesir Flux & Kaleid Controller Review: Full Comparison

[@PughsReview]

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[@OLDAD_]

Ty 🙏🏻 got the white ones using your affiliate link!

[@MuesliF1]

I really would like to have a wireless gamesir controller with triggerstops and 4 backbuttons too. I hope they are gonna do so in the future

[@PughsReview]

We need more of these comments so they know we really want it.

[@Soloman_Gumball]

Microsoft doesn't want anybody else using their wireless. Don't hold your breath.

[@vhsodre]

Is there any licensed wireless controller for Xbox at all? I'm asking this because every single licensed controller I know for Xbox is wired (I mean, at least those released by 8BitDo and Gamesir). So, I don't think it's up to them.

[@MuesliF1]

@@vhsodre as far as i know there is one from 8bitdo and some wireless scuf controllers, but scuf controllers cost a fortune

[@mwilli6]

@@vhsodre Just the scuf instinct pro. And judging by the $50+ price difference with that and their pc only envision pro version. There's probably a good indicator of what xbox is charging for license fees for their Xbox Wireless Wi-Fi Direct protocol drivers. There's also the turtle beach stealth ultra at $200+ ... so could also be M$ only licenses to products out of their own products price brackets. I'd bet both, cause they really have no reason not to be a-holes about it.

[@itsKiraki]

Thanks for the review! Went ahead and bought the Flux, membrane all the way ❤

[@OLDAD_]

Nice review! Prob gonna pick up the kaleid since my elite s2 just took a dump! GAMESIR: please make us a controller with tactile all around , 1000hz, clicky triggers/stops and back buttons !

[@PughsReview]

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[@atticusnow131]

Awesome review and very informative. Thank you.

[@skreph2717]

Old potentiometer controllers are not it anymore. I have two G7s and a Kaleid. Been on controller since NES days, and I get called a cheater for dialing these in. BEST TIP after many hours and different thumbsticks, is to find your thumbstick deadzone out of box in game. You will be surprised. I have my settings dialed in from every aspect and slam people. Therse are worth the money and my daily drivers. I will shmelt someone on the $400 Scuf controller.

[@IDKKK1207]

can you share your g7 se settings i feel like i have no aim assist with it

[@skreph2717]

@@IDKKK1207 I absolutely will. Right now I am medicating and ging to get some live plants for my Koi/goldfish pond.

[@skreph2717]

@@IDKKK1207 Make sure you find the the thumbsticks you like. GameSir App Hair Triggers 0-100. Thumbsticks 0-100 (no raw mode) ●Warzone game settings Try this is as a base setting; Thumbstick Sens - 9/8 Deadzones in warzone settings left stick - 3/69, rights stick 2/100 Warzone trigger deazone app settings- 5/5 AimCurveResponseType Dynamic on a slope scale of 0.60. Aim Sens. Multiplyer- 1.00 Aim Sens Custom fist three values-0.60. Aim Assist Type- Black Ops FOV is 120/Wide. *FOV set to DEFAULT is less zoom and standard gun size on screen with more aim assist by 15% ish... Did this all from my head. **Make sure you adjust with your grip on the controller**, this is where you will have to play around from here and see what work for you.

[@kalibeast4949]

@@IDKKK1207 i play with out aim assist with the controllers cause their so good

[@lookilk]

I play Fortnite so which controller would you recommend? Please I’m having trouble deciding

[@shaQs.]

i had the xbox elite controller, returned it and got now the g7se and im in love with it. i can take up faceplate and use higher thumbsticks without buying kontrollfreeks and 1000hz is great❤

[@SLISKI_JOHNNY]

I almost ordered a G7 SE but noticed Kaleid in other products from this seller. I came here to learn what the hell it is, and boy, am I glad I did. It basically fixed all the issues/worries I had about G7 SE: didn't like how G7 SE looks and also wished it had tac buttons. Honestly Kaleid looks better than my current controllers lol Thanks for the review!

[@dennisbijl23]

Ive received mine couple of days ago and love it! Thinking about buying another one. There is only one thing which is kinda odd to me..if I connect the controller to my Xbox Series X using a usb 3.0 extension cable the controller wont work. On PC it aint an issue at all. Heck, its right now connected to an USB-hub which is connected to my pc using same cable I used for the Xbox...LMAO On Xbox need to plug it in directly. Works like a charm then though so it aint a big deal but odd..lol

[@VOLTAIRES_5]

every single controller ive owned with trigger stops has broken, im fine with gamersir having no trigger stops but make the distance shorter so i dont break custom trigger stops like the other custom trigger controllers

[@3191nato]

From what I have seen from Gamesir they seem to be going for more of an affordable price route with their controllers but I wish they made one of these more of a 'Pro' version with trigger stops etc. I have the Gamesir G7 SE and I contacted Gamesir because I want it in black and they said they had no plans and now I think It's because these were coming out.

[@PughsReview]

The g7 face plates will fit the se.

[@3191nato]

@@PughsReview Yeah I know but the face plate options suck and the back is still white. I asked them to release face plates in standard colours like red, blue, black etc but they said they had no plans to.

[@Leon-vx5it]

bro, you will see that

[@diomed96]

T4K Kaleid is one of my favourite gamepads for PC right after the original XBOX series gamepad, so I decided to get this Kaleid version for XBOX mostly because of the blacked out look and trigger vibration. It just arrived and I gotta say I love it, but it's not without its issues...Right away so far, we're not even able to remap the middle 'Share' button in the software like we could in the T4K. I feel like they really should add this as an option if using with PC via their Gamesir Nexus app. 2nd issue is with trigger rumble - turns out that it is one of the features that gets disabled at 1000 Hz polling rate, while only the audio jack problem is mentioned in the Nexus app. Currently everything works as it should at 500 Hz though, and I don't mind since I mostly use gamepads for racing

[@PughsReview]

Got insight amd yea that should just be a update for the Xbox button

[@MatanicFabrications]

The only gripe I have with the Kaelid is the 3.5mm jack is not up to par nowadays. It causes all analog headsets to be much lower in volume when connected as opposed a elite series 2.

[@Dundle]

Good review! I've just purchased the Kaleid black version, and it's connected to my PC. One thing I notice is that the Xbox power button in the middle doesn't actually switch on the controller. The only way to switch on the controller from sleep is to unplug and plug it back in. Does anyone else experience this, or is it defective? Otherwise, it's a fantastic controller for the price point!

[@nathanjuedes2612]

Great review! Wish they would have went with the clear plastic of the t4. Not a fan of finger prints and the glossy smoked dark color.

[@PughsReview]

I like the color but I agree the fingerprints do suck.

[@lukilladog]

I'd get the membrane buttons, mouse type switches always kick the bucket prematurely (except the optical switches).

[@apersontonguecantell]

Which gamesir is better for pc gaming? G7 se/ T4 pro/ Kalied/ ??

[@nathanspyroMA]

Kailed is the best

[@ru3bgaming381]

I will buy one tomorrow for my xbox which one best for fps Kaleid or Kaleid flux or g7 se?

[@santostv4413]

Brother nice video, i want to ask which one is better for series x g7 se or kalied flux

[@Fabio_TP]

Obvious answer, G7 se is Good, but Kalied flux has better quality material and the design is beautiful. Both controllers are good, your good with any of them.

[@Savage80]

I just dont like hearing the tapping on the tactical button i prefer the quieter membrane buttons

[@sarahbird-lx2de]

Tactile all the way. I still use my T4 Kaleid on the regular.

[@sarahbird-lx2de]

I think I quite prefer the smokey transparent case to the T4 case.

[@PughsReview]

I agree. I like the look personally.

[@JoseEduardoBarrera-q8w]

For the flux i can use the kontrolfreeks or this doesn't fit

[@franciscogovea]

hello. excellent work. a question. between the hyperx controller for Xbox and this kaleid. Which one do you prefer?

[@PughsReview]

Easily the kalied

[@RJ-fy6hc]

I have tried all gamesir gamepads and I had soo many issues with tactile buttons mostly the button double the action or the press. Also tactile is way to noisey and slower performance and less efficient.

[@j0eykarate264]

Hi got this controller and mainly play Halo... Looking for answers to raw mode/on or off and what deadzones in the app should be etc.. Thanks guys...

[@SpeedGraff223]

I play 0 dead zones and raw mode but it's preference, raw mode feels like everything you do has an effect and more responsive to me

[@loitersquadX]

Which is the best for pc? Low latency, and 1000 polling. Please tell me.

[@RoboChemist]

The T4 Kalied is best for PC! These two in the video are made for Xbox, so unless you own the console, you'll have better luck with the *T4* version. (The fully clear one)

[@loitersquadX]

@@RoboChemist even better than g7se? Does t4 have low latency and all that

[@Wink913]

Im planning to get the gamesir kaleid. But I don't know if I should get the transparent kaleid t4 or the black kaleid.

[@stevensv4864]

hey bro i wonder something i have the kaleid and g7 se kaleid arrive just a few days ago, after i try it have a bad point justonly one and its microswitch dpad for fighting games, it is really hard to do combos, with g7 se is so easy.. but let me tell you what is good bc is a lot.. 1000hz native windows 10 500 hz with audio vibration feels much more stronger and deep even in level 3 it is better than the g7 se in level 4.. RGB for more fps :v i think im gonna sell this kaleid and buy the flux one bc i think is just the same but with membrane, doesnt it?

[@MrBigArm7]

awesome review but is this controller the same size as an xbox series x controller

[@ultradius7]

Question: ¿This controller or the 8bitdo Ultimate? I need a new one but i want a good investment of price and quality.

[@PughsReview]

For me the kalied

[@ultradius7]

@@PughsReview Got it, thanks you 👌🏼

[@BuggiEU]

At the end of the day, is it worth buying Kaleid over G7 for the Hall effect and some other upgrades?

[@PughsReview]

I think so personally upprgraded controller for around the same price

[@RFischer1979]

Is there a difference in vibration and haptic feedback between Kaleid and g7 se???

[@Felipepnp]

Can I use a normal usb type c cable?

[@PughsReview]

If you can fine one that fits.

[@speaker7975]

I found Kaleid t4 for 37$ and game sir g7 se for 52$ which one should i buy and is the price difference is worth it

[@PughsReview]

If it's for pc the t4 xbox se since the t4 isn't compatible with xbox

[@ThePresagio]

@@PughsReview but its now licensed with xbox. İs it still better for PC

[@cigarbearreviews]

Guy has strong Willam Defoe vibes

[@PughsReview]

I don't know if that's a compliment 🤣

[@cigarbearreviews]

@@PughsReview Just noticed it more in your facial features out of everything. Hey, I want to know if they have weighted rt, lt, buttons like the dual sense 5 controller and vibrations. I like to feel the weight of the gun like the ps5 offers. I can’t decide which one on the color to get. I use just a standard Xbox series x controller in black, and don’t understand all of this. I do plan on playing call of duty black ops 6 and need a perfect controller for that, but can you help me out?

[@PughsReview]

If you mean hapic feedback no this dosent have it no xbox controller has this for xbox if you on pc then check my apex 4 review out that a sweet controller and has that.

[@Relaxxmannn]

I have a control freak on my controller does it fit on the g7 se end g7 he or do I need to get PlayStation ones ?

[@loki1895]

Had 2 Gamesir Xbox Controllers in use for like a year. And both, the G7SE and the normal G7 have the same problem now. I think the cause is the USB-port at the back. Both are getting disconnected A LOT for me to point were im not able to play.

[@I3ammy]

Try using a different USB port, since the console should have more than 1

[@technicalcreed7291]

Can we set sticks to back buttons?

[@shawndean5952]

I use the gamesir g7 se and have it overclocked and i constantly get called a ximmer in overwatch

[@Thu1N0]

Does the standard controller have 1000 hertz or was that just for Flux?

[@PughsReview]

The flux did not have it.

[@dennisbijl23]

Ive got the non Flux one and I can set it at 500 or 1000 hertz in the app.

[@CrisURace]

Wondering is it's worth upgrading from t4 Kaleid to this. For having the trigger vibrations xD.

[@I3ammy]

@@CrisURace Having vibration off for fps games is a must

[@CrisURace]

@@I3ammy i dont't play fps games with controller, those are for mouse and keyboard. Ride and Motogp Games give trigger feedback so you know when you are on the limit.

[@OLDAD_]

Do you know if any kontrol freeks fit the kaleid?

[@PughsReview]

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[@OLDAD_]

@@PughsReview Ty!

[@Fabio_TP]

Meant no disrespect mate, But its opinions, in my opinion flux is beautiful and the touch feels way better than original xbox controller, plus hall effect on both trigers and joysticks and way less noisy. I said kid taste because kids usually like things clicky and noisy buttons, like i said i meant no disrecpect and it was not about your person, and yes to your opinion. Because this is my first video of yours, and i got my flux recenlty. Ive putted my original xbox controller on sale, i dont need him anymore, Ps5 original controller has less drift than original Xbox series.

[@PughsReview]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@ryanduran3026]

I don’t have a report rate option on my kalied xbox controller and I have it hooked up to my laptop my g7se did idk what’s going on.

[@PughsReview]

Have you tried to update the controller or app?

[@ryanduran3026]

@@PughsReview I’ve tried to update the controller but there isn’t any report rate for the kalied at least not yet people are saying the update will come soon. As far as the app goes I have no idea how to update the app itself but there isn’t any new updates for the controller on the app itself.

[@dennisbijl23]

I have the Kalied controller aswell. The report rate option should be in the app, the Gamesir Nexus app. Downloaded from Microsoft Store. Updated the controller firmware with the app, from 1.47 to 1.49 and I could set it at 500 or 1000 mhz or leave it at 250. Perhaps you are trying it with the other Gamesir app for the T4 kaleid ? I mean, if on my end it works as intended, it should be same for you. Hope it helps.

[@ryanduran3026]

@@dennisbijl23 I have the GameSir nexus app and it’s still not pulling up

[@ryanduran3026]

@@dennisbijl23 I’ve had it on my laptop since the g7Se controller that I previously had

[@ElectTheDead78]

I have been looking at this controller for a while. The HALL effect and 1000hz being the major draw. For fifty buck I am willing to take a punt, mainly as an alternative to Elite 2 which for the price I paid has been underwhelming to say the least. I would be happy if GameSir offered a wireless option. The extra back buttons isn't a huge deals as before the elite 2 I used a turtle beach with only two in back. I do agree though that it is time for them to step to the plate with a high end, wireless 'elite' style control. Because the HALL and polling features can't be ignored. I would also say this for 8bitDo controllers too. Thus the logical next step of of controller evolution.

[@xav10]

Does this controller have rapid fire mode?

[@PughsReview]

Rapid fire no hair triggers yes

[@xav10]

@@PughsReview what i meant is turbo mode. Press and hold a button for rapid fire

[@PughsReview]

Nope, typically, xbox license controllers won't come with that.

[@Justdream67]

Man iam just over that stick drift shit great review instant buy for me chosse the flux one looks better imo

[@mev85]

1000hz wireless xbox controller. I want a controller like apex 4 that has xbox support and clicky triggers.

[@PughsReview]

Scream it! Me to...

[@Lunacy_Phoenix]

The reason GameSir removed 1000Hz is because Microsoft ordered them to remove it, as they said it offered an unfair advantage. However the polling rate argument for Xbox at least is flat out false, DLI on the Xbox console side hard caps all inputs to a maximum functional polling rate of 125Hz. ANY positive difference over the OEM controller, is simply an improvement in overall polling consistency. Microsoft just aren't as stringent at ensuring all their controllers hold 125Hz constantly. (more of a ballpark than hard rule) All controllers fluctuate but the higher the polling rate on the peripheral side is the less often it will fall below 125Hz cap, therefore improving measured averages and perceived responsiveness. NEVER have we actually experienced above 125Hz on Xbox with ANY controller or any other peripheral and unless Microsoft increases or removes the DLI polling cap limit we never will. All you need to do to see this is plug into a PC, load any game you also have on Xbox, Lock the framerate and set resolution to match the console version: Instantly even at only 250Hz the difference is NIGHT AND DAY, 500Hz and 1000Hz are INSANE. (I have tested this on 2 G7 SE's, and a gaming keyboard and mouse)

[@RealMadrid_BarcaFan]

@@Lunacy_Phoenix can’t u still set it at 1000hz just it takes away ur mic option, so u just plug in a other controller just for the mic?

[@hollow314]

Just tear them down, t4k and flux both dpad have the same type of button micro switch like on the xbox but gamesir like to put a thick rubber layer on top of them. The same thing with the face button, micro switch underneath+thick rubber layer on top. Because of that rubber layer all the the advantage of micro switches are gone, pretty dumb of gamesir to do that.

[@Slenderdorb]

Doood i need help. Hahaha have you gotten your hands on the new 8bitdo wutimate wired c? $35 on Amazon. I gave gotten the usb mic to work on it but it makes the party hear their own echo. The astro a10 works smoothly though. Do you have any suggestions?

[@Slenderdorb]

Exact setup is New ultimate wired c xbox Fifine am8 Kingtop splitter 2' 2 ring aux Design ground loop isolator. It works and works well but the party hears themselves somehow. Yesterday it was doing it with both the headset and mic set up but fid the firm ware update now it works with the headset but still gives party an echo

[@PughsReview]

To need honest I have played with any 8bitdo in a while but have heard of the issue. I would try unplugging the controller and plugging in back in to start and just kind of experiment with that on the cables mic ect try adjust mic volume as well. I haven't ran into this issue while testing so I can't really tell you a exact fix. If you find a solution on it though plz let me know I'll pass it along to other to help help.

[@Slenderdorb]

@PughsReview thank you for the prompt response. I'll give a couple more cables I have on hand a try but if I can't get it I think im just gonna grab the board and an xlr cable. I got my personal setup thanks to your recommendation and I use it to stream but this is a secondary set up fir my wife so she sounds high quality since if I'm live she is also in the party/chat

[@Slenderdorb]

Bummer too because the boards were on sale last week black was 37.99 so i got myself that and white was 40.99 I shoild grabbed ot for her while I got mine haha

[@PughsReview]

I'm got a new board to work video coming soon

[@astreakaito5625]

Testing controllers without gyro >_>

[@Zetler]

When are these guys going to make PS5 controllers?