Finally: An Honest Board Test | The Greatest Surfboard In The World #2

[@cades.clips101]

So funny how Stab tried saying videos like yours weren’t good and your the top liked comment because the surf community loves you

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thank you that means a lot

[@cades.clips101]

@@KalesBroccoli thanks for your videos kale and one of the things that helps me the most that you made a video on is how to catch more waves in crowds, I surf Huntington Beach with a lot of aggressive jerks who back paddle but being farthest outside let’s everyone see you going for the wave

[@Fixingthingz4u]

Where does it say that ?

[@Fixingthingz4u]

@@cades.clips101 ahh cheers mate what a dick Kale is my favourite health snack 🤣

[@thibautmairesse1374]

Stab’s just jealous because they’ve never managed to connect to the beginners/intermediate surfers community like you do. You are making surfing more relevant and accessible to lots of people by sharing your passion and talent 🙏🏻 Keep it up Legend!!! 🤙✨

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thank you mate 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@hughmckendrick3018]

Having Professional surfers review boards is a waste of time for most of us. On their worst day they could surf a total dog of a board and make it look good. Not even at my best could I surf like Kale but I can relate to what he saying. Good content once again.

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thanks Hugh!

[@dons1932]

The biggest skill example I can ever use is that pro's can surf body boards. With no fins. And still shred them. None of us could do that in our wildest dreams. That's how large the skill gap is. I still enjoy Stab in The Dark - almost purely just to see the pro's do their thing - but since they did the stupid ass pay portal, I have lost interest in even wanting to watch it. Could care less. 80% of surfers will get more out of Kale, than just watching the pretty visuals of a pro do their thing. Of course, most of us enjoy both. But Stab are really losing the core of their audience - the 80% of them - and Kale is catering to them. Ain't rocket surgery.

[@ChrisGenau]

You basically doing "stab in the dark" for ordinary people, even getting the board manufacturers to deliver for free - is probably the reason stab felt like throwing shade at you on instagram today :D Keep it up and shut them haters up Kale 🤙🏽

[@carcorr]

Got a link?

[@ChrisGenau]

@@carcorr it was kinda indirect, but he was in one photo collage and it was enough that he felt like commenting underneath himself - here’s the link instagram.com/p/CN4F2IfFEMz/?igshid=egza0d0taomz

[@KalesBroccoli]

Haha they’re just doing their thing

[@josesnowsneves5132]

and no paid subscription required... ;)

[@ChrisGenau]

@@KalesBroccoli but that thing should spread love instead of shade :D

[@jedfearon]

As an official old man - 55 - I can’t imagine surfing for seven hours. I’m envious of your energy and I loved this review. You crushed those waves.

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thank you Jed! Haha I felt like an old man after!

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thank you Jed! Haha I felt like an old man after!

[@jodiah5]

I’d love to find out how well I’d be doing after 7 hrs of surfing!!!

[@andreas.619]

Sharpeye is going to be top 3 if not the winner. Best surf series on KZbin dude well done!

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thank you so much!

[@surfcoach]

It's so hard to give a board a good review in one session though. I was surfing the Pukas Dark 5'10 1/2 epoxy a year ago for the first time and it took me a good 10 sessions to get used to the responsiveness of it. And it now is my favorite board ever. Would be interesting to see you surf some more HP models in bigger surf in the ocean. Great video!

[@spinafex5729]

I think the Red Baron is meant to be ridden with keels - I'm thinking keels would help it hold rail off the bottom and not feel too loose,

[@dvfallon6345]

Agree

[@shalevmoshearonson5640]

Amazing series! Thank you! I think a board you missed is the al merrick OG flyer.. best in the market for smaller waves. Great speed get up and go and very predictable maneuverability

[@Real.Australia]

I love these reviews kale its always been a dream of mine to try every board in the surf shop in a wave pool . STAB trying to dis you was ridiculous . you were one of the KZbin pioneers to dedicate your channel to helping beginners and intermediates learn and improve . I prefer average Joe surfers board reviews, the pros rip on any board and are always going with who pays them . keep up the good work .

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thank you!!

[@brand-ahoy1039]

I have really been liking this series keep it up! I also purchased a sub-driver 2.0 not too long ago and it seemed to be very sluggish or “sticky” as you said. I had a new one crafted at 30 L instead of 27 L. I haven’t had a chance to take the board out yet, but was hoping that I don’t have the same experience as before. Anyways I look forward to seeing part 3 of your search.

[@nathanmaurice4103]

brand ahoy....have you surfd the newer subdriver you got? I have just got a 6.0 light speed. 32litrrs. not picked it up yet but the reviews (all by pros) say its quick and rate it. noel salas too but then he never gives a board a bad review really as he surfs everything well. what fins did you have ? what fins did Kale use do we know? fins do make a big difference i feel. not heard any mention of fins that Kale used in the video. would be interested to know....

[@seanlove5602]

I had the same experience with subdriver 2.0. Tried JJF mediums and Larges and still kinda funky with both

[@jonniejlo]

Nice work Kale! Surprised about the Pyzel and Lost results. But that's what this series is about! Good stuff.

[@Offshore52]

a test of Grovellers would be great too and even better in less than average, windy summer conditions.

[@IamtheWV17]

That's what we really need! Hybrids and fish in the wave pool on intermediate.

[@caseymccormack2000]

Awesome round 2... I love the honesty regarding the boards. You are a really good surfer so it is interesting how you are choosing boards that are fun and easy to ride. Like you said... No one is paying you to ride these boards... I think a lot of us choose boards on marketing hype or some other factors that don't take into account our own riding style, ability, and needs.. Just a great lesson for us all that even someone like yourself didn't like what would be considered "Pro" models. Great job Brock. Have a great trip down the coast. Wish that Cohort was FutureFlex but what can you do. Bet it goes sick in the ocean.

[@KalesBroccoli]

(See the cohort FF in the next episode 😛😛) thank you so much mate!

[@dudesweetpro]

You should talk about the bottom concave in the next one. Interested to know what you liked/didn’t like, double vs single for these smaller wave boards.

[@salitre511]

Totally agree.

[@KalesBroccoli]

For sure! We did actually film that on every board however found that it just stretched the episodes too long and became a little disengaging

[@surfershaper]

@@Patrick_whittaker1 single to double to promote extra lift, drive and responsiveness. Especially in smaller surf✓

[@MrRobinski]

@@KalesBroccoli Not for those who are interested in design.

[@salitre511]

@@KalesBroccoli Also the rocker. Probably the rocker is the most important feature in surfboards design.

[@morgshopping]

Very refreshing to hear honest reviews. We all know that some boards suite different surfers and waves but rarely is a reviewer bold enough to say it just isn’t working for them.

[@death_knell]

You always make the cleanest videos, if that makes ANY sense 🤣

[@KalesBroccoli]

Ha ha thank you very much!

[@geoffreyl_]

So helpful. I honestly can’t believe your channel isn’t bigger with how great these videos are, but I’m sure the subs will start rolling in soon. Thank you, and keep up the great work!

[@MrYannickVincent]

Great quality content again, much appreciated! Just wanted to mention that the red baron is meant to be ridden with a modern keel template which would potentially give you that hold you were looking for

[@KalesBroccoli]

Oh thanks!

[@louisanthony266]

This was better than stab reviews. Loved this. I personally own a 5’8 sub driver 2.0. It’s a fun daily driver for our SoCal beach breaks. Takes a little getting used to though.

[@christianpenland8667]

Love this series so far!!! Your commentary was spot on. I could tell by the way you were surfing that what you were saying was totally in line. Cheers from San Clemente!

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thank you Christian!!

[@adamhutchison7500]

I mostly surf a pool in the UK which is basically the same as urban surf and I was beginning to think HPSB’s where the way to go on the bigger settings in the pool. But as you explained and I could see in your surfing the faster wider style boards seemed to work much better for you. Defiantly something I will consider when buying new boards in the future. Brilliant content as usual kale. Yeeeeew!

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thank you Adam!

[@evancrown5657]

Awesome - very timely video. Been eyeing an Album board for the past few months and this has helped me make the decision. Question: How thick a wetsuit do you recommend for August surf sessions at the Urbnsurf? Hood/booties necessary?

[@mw7178]

Loving this series! Thank you for living out our board dreams and the helpful content! I do agree that the Pyzel Shadow was not the best choice for them to send. The P2 would work well or even the High Line. I personally think The Shadow is going to be better closer to your height in stronger waves.

[@Dany-rf7up]

Yo I’m glad the HS Cohort made it! If all goes well from the next video I’m defo gonna get one! Yew can’t wait for the next one!

[@maxrobinson6233]

"squirty, drivey, stiff" 😂 brah can we get a lowdown on the vocab?? What do these words mean, what do they feel like? Love your work dude 🙏

[@chrismoore2409]

It's surf buzzword bingo.

[@KalesBroccoli]

😂

[@KalesBroccoli]

Squirty = alive, energetic, zippy Drivey = squirty in a forward motion Stiff = knees feel like they’re guna break because board not squirty enough

[@maxrobinson6233]

@@KalesBroccoli epic cheers!

[@mattclem382]

Great stuff Kale! Loved the side by side footage and your simple clear feedback. Looks like a blast!

[@KalesBroccoli]

Awesome

[@captainwax5272]

Finally an honest video¡¡¡ I keep looking at your videos and learning. Thanks for sharing so much value. I will get into your platform soon.

[@beaux7037]

Hope this gets millions of views mate

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thank you

[@JBOsurf]

good content young man. try a christenson when you can, also Haydenshapes LOOT using MR 2+1 fins...best board ever!

[@KalesBroccoli]

Maybe next year!

[@j.mach1133]

Killer work, Kale! For what it’s worth, I thought your surfing in first Shadow clip was unreal. It was super critical and sharp. I’m not a pyzel fanboy or anything either haha

[@KalesBroccoli]

It definitely had moments and I can see it being a fantastic board in great waves

[@j.mach1133]

@@KalesBroccoli right on, Kale! Keep up the great videos 🤙

[@daviddalzell7057]

I agree

[@charlesrooke3946]

loving this series... thank you! One constructive comment... the Red Baron would have felt more predictable/controllable with less upright fins than those MRs - some AMKs (or similar) would have given you a better experience imho whereas the Twinsman is designed to be used with the high aspect twin fins such as those MRs.

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thank you! It’s still a super fun board !

[@Connor-kv5cm]

Really enjoy your laid-back honest style kale. Very talented communicator : )

[@olilaedward]

Great Vid, looking forward to the final. Did you try a SMTH Shapes?

[@KalesBroccoli]

No didn’t get there!

[@derekfagan8278]

Hey Kale, nice to see you yesterday In Byron and thanks for the tips on Board choice. I'll be trying out the new board in the pumping Victorian well this weekend ahhhhhh. Derek

[@KalesBroccoli]

Nice to meet you Derek!!

[@buttersnow]

Great series, great insight! Having the Pyzel Shadow myself, it was so interesting to see what you think about it... your analysis was on point. Looked amazing under your feet! Definitely a sick board for good waves ... as you said 11:43 this board is "a master at controlling speed" : 100% agree

[@KalesBroccoli]

Definitely felt like it wanted a bigger wave to spark it up! Great fundamental shape

[@dustystarr2297]

Mayhem should have sent an Uber XL or Puddle Jumper HP. I think that would suit your style and the pool better. but oh well. Great job on the reviews btw!

[@KalesBroccoli]

For sure! But it is also great to highlight how sometimes the performance short board scene Has its limitations

[@Brointhepow]

I love your reviews Kale ! I'm agree with you, the Red Baron is a great board in small conditions, very light and playfull specilly with keel fins but it is really too fragile and has too many bumps on the top shep from the first uses.

[@simon_ashford]

On a side note, it's great to see such great footage of someone ripping at Point Concrete. Really useful. Thank You. Loved this.

[@JessicaAmirABC]

Ledgey! Loved this review brock. What do you think of Ainsley’s Tiger shark? Also brock where is that wave pool? X

[@nathanmaurice4103]

hi Kale... what fins did you have in the subdriver and the sharp eye... the sub driver seems similar to thr Dominator2 in bottom contour and wide point have you sirfed the dominator2 in the pool ? i would imagine small pivot fins in the subdriver would go well in the pool, to loose the stickyness ?

[@mattfrench9901]

What fins did you try in the twinsman? Excellent series by the way!!

[@adamwaz5615]

Awesome work mate 🤙. Let's see if the Album takes out the win 😁. Did you surf 8ft Winki by any chance?

[@jamiesonmadgwick2496]

Question here I'm 5'9 71 kgs adv immediate lvl surfer should i get the 5'6 stock neck beard 2 Spine TEK which is 26.8 L or the 5'7 NB2 28.1 L

[@ingoFX]

Awesome video as usual! Love your videos... But just wondering what your thoughts are on different fin types - If a board feels too loose or stiff, maybe it'd go better with different fins? before writing it off completely 😉 Though I guess if you only have an hour per board, that limits the time you can spend dialing in the right fins 🤔

[@KalesBroccoli]

Just didn’t have enough time - next year we will make the shaper suggest and provide the perfect fins for their board

[@cparksie2231]

Love these videos you've been doing. As an everyday kook it's nice to see some honest reviews of different shapers/boards

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thanks mate

[@gregstarr2878]

Digging the lid buddy first off. Love a good twin. My fav board is an 1981 Carl Hayward twin! Loving the board look mate. Well done Kale, keep it up🤙 G⭐

[@KalesBroccoli]

🚀!

[@gregstarr2878]

@@KalesBroccoli indeed sir🤙😎 G⭐

[@Hotwire_RCTrix]

Very entertaining, so many board reviews are dead boring. Can't wait for episode 3. 👍

[@raggaroaringsound]

Hey Kale. Just curious as to your height and weight? Been looking at Album's Twinsman in a 5'8. I'm 5'8 185 lbs and surf mostly beach break Florida not so good surf. I'm an intermediate to advanced surfer/ weekend warrior/ I used to surf a lot better haha type surfer. My normal everyday thruster shortboard is 5'8 32 liters epoxy and floats me fine, but looking for something a little more fun. But looking for an everyday driver that's an easy choice even if the waves get good! Do you recommend going your height, or shorter? What construction is the Twinsman you're riding? Thanks for your great videos!

[@KalesBroccoli]

At start of episode

[@raggaroaringsound]

@@KalesBroccoli i see, oops i missed it the first go around

[@surfershaper]

You said you wished so and so would've sent a different model. That leads me to ask, did the shapers know you would be judging their boards in a small wave pool? If so, they may have sent an alternate small wave model. I think you said in your first test video that you requested their best current high performance surfboard to be sent for testing. Which makes it even stranger the assorted variety of shapes you received!! Excellent production as always. Cheers

[@KalesBroccoli]

The brief was “a surfboard for every day waves for every day surfers at Kale’s dims”

[@travisguide4516]

I remember kalani robb saying he only had one board he likes in Kelly's pool I don't know if pools could be accurate at getting a impression still it was a great comparison

[@alikajohnson9250]

That album looks so fun. Ya I got a pyzalien 2 and it's so much fun. Fast and forgiving.

[@KalesBroccoli]

I’ve ridden before and loved !

[@jollystuff6775]

incredible content...benn following you since first how to rip tutorials... I´m missing a seaside and a pukas here !!!! besttt

[@nottherealChickenJoe]

Your surfing on the Pyzel looked insane

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thanks

[@daviddalzell7057]

I totally agree, can we have a viewerʻs poll?

[@seanmack5459]

The pool itself feels so different ,nearly like a stationary wave ,i found it hard to get drive of the bottom of the wave

[@rhidiandavies1991]

Wouldn't the phantom be the better pyzel to test as a daily driver? I might be wrong but I could have sworn that the shadow was advertised as the more performancy, good-wave version of the phantom.

[@KalesBroccoli]

I’d say so

[@SkipperSurfReview]

Awesome test in the pool. Album boards are becoming my favorite now :)

[@Robwhat]

I had a Sub Driver a while back that I was not a big fan of either. I’m pretty sure it has a very low tail rocker and that is what I attributed it to. I also had the standard Driver model and loved that board. Completely different animal. I bought a Twinsman a few months ago and have been loving it. Not sure if you tried it on the left but I think it also goes great backside which is usually not ideal for a twin.

[@KalesBroccoli]

Awesome!

[@MrRobinski]

What fins were you using and how do you decide the left or right for which board? Sounds like you would have been better to try a smaller rear fin in the lsd

[@orionashdown4828]

You should look to the Hawaiian boards. T and C been at it long time. Much respect

[@genomcnerney9673]

Much appreciation kale! But wrong mayhem and pyzel to test in tiny pool waves. You cant compare a fish to a board like the sub driver and shadow! Please compare similar board types next time perhaps the pyzel astro pop and mayhem rnf 96

[@coltonashby8760]

I love your videos. I have watched almost all of them, it has helped me a lot.

[@KalesBroccoli]

Awesome!!

[@cadocosta]

Waiting for it 🤙

[@aaronchang2012]

2:19 "FLAT DECK"... damn why'd you have to remind me.

[@oliverstewart3124]

You really missed the mark on the Red Baron mate, putting in an MR upright twin set in it, especially with the more flexible neoglass construction, is begging for it to be too loose. Otherwise well done!!

[@vimeosux]

I reckon the JS would go better with proper keels not the MR twin... They do look like they suit the album shape though

[@HamptonPearce]

I feel like pros would know the difference in foot placement not only on different boards but different finbox placement and how the acquired taste isn't just about jumping on and ripping. It's definitely your approach to each wave and desires that set your stance inturn defining the boards compliance with your thoughts. They're not mind-readers. U have to actually adjust accordingly. Plus if your one of the guys that loves the way a huge swallowed out twin rides and yes they tend to just go with the flow unless u want to truly engage with the wave no wasted energy and movement and ur not one of the minority that make a living with that laid back style or the pure talent pros that ride em on lay days your not going to get the same idea that ur ripping with a board right out the box without a bit of adjustments. Especially with the variety of sick boards u were given. The deminsions are easy to grasp but the suddleties like rail pinch and concave or even where the volume is like the fin placement is as paramount as flex from different build materials and where / when they were shaped. These shapers weren't making u step up or downs or even clones of previous successes but seemed to have a consensus of ur generalities based of height and weight I assume and that works generally if each is given the proper considerations and would be in normal circumstances by the average surfer who footed the bill for any one of those wips. I get the clip and am astonished you were hooked up so well. I just don't think u gave justice to any of them really even the doormats of course are going to all ride the same. There for anyone to jump on and feel like there going ham right out the box. There called fun boards for a reason. No offense ment and in person I'm sure I could articulate it much better if this is truly news somehow. Maybe I should read the other command because I'm just tripping and there were more or less factors than I know. Be stoked off ur ass u got hooked up with so many sick sleds bud.tnars a dream quiver for above advredge surfers . The u tube genie hooked u up and I hope u realize that.

[@davewarland1680]

Great reviews, would be handy to know which fins are being used in each board.

[@NateGfit]

This is so good Kale!

[@andreas.619]

Just drop the video 😂

[@brandoncuts82]

I appreciate your genuine opinion for a chlorine Wave pool but Salt water and decent waves make the world of differences.

[@michaeldepalma8616]

Kale your videos are some of the best on KZbin, on any subject. I'd like to suggest a small tweak for this series. At the end when you give your star ratings if you could include which board it is on your graphic it would be a big help to other stupid people like me! Thanks for existing man

[@KalesBroccoli]

Ah sorry Michael! We found it just made the screen too busy with more writing and thought if we did it chronologically after the board’s reaction it would make sense - will see what we can do! Thanks brother appreciate it

[@michaeldepalma8616]

@@KalesBroccoli that definitely makes sense. No worries I'm probably in the minority anyway! Cheers

[@surfratducdive]

Quite Interesting - ''Can't Wait 4 Finalizing Results'' - 🔥🔥🔥 👌😜👍 😎🤙 - Much Love & Respect - Thnx Kale!

[@MrBarrelborg]

Great series well done! Can I ask you what your dims are? Height and weight?

[@KalesBroccoli]

Yes it’s at the start of the episode

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thank you!

[@kaydenrodgers3025]

Finally been waiting for this video

[@3rdtonefromthesun]

Hey Kale, how much do you weigh mate? Just hoping for a reference I can use as I surf most of the year in a thick winter suit and accessories. :D

[@KalesBroccoli]

First two minutes

[@3rdtonefromthesun]

@@KalesBroccoli I honestly have no idea how I missed that. Cheers! 😅😅😅

[@Sp4wnK3lla]

Great series, I am really enjoying it! You should do it annually and keepin' it free!

[@KalesBroccoli]

💯

[@iampetrunin]

Kale, can you make a similar video about mid-length boards? Ot just you recommendations

[@victorchu7594]

wish you did a review for the pyzalien 2!

[@kiwigus1953]

Bring on round 3 🥊

[@aaronfasching9107]

dont you think you didnt ike the sub driver because it was way to big for you? they recommend using it 1 to 2 inches smaller than ur usual performance board

[@nicozx191]

Excellent video! I see you put your biometrics also, nice!

[@shredmaxi]

Really enjoying these videos 🤙

[@roberthalvorsen429]

Insanely well done, excellent videography and reviews.

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thank you!

[@xx_PCCR_xx]

Nice vid! Aaaaw, how I wish to have a wave pool like that close to where I live...

[@TheBluesmon]

Kale, what's your height and weight?

[@rosesurfboards7353]

Really interested what you think the difference would be if you used the Red Baron with keel fins. The fin box placement on it are designed for keels, not uprights like you used, but even so just interesting if it would feel any better!

[@KalesBroccoli]

For sure wish I had some!

[@darrens2258]

Great job. Format really works!

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thank you!

[@brianfischer4422]

Great review and well said, sir!!!

[@kirstycassidy9196]

I have been wating for this vid all week .could you do a vid of how to get used to bigger waves

[@KalesBroccoli]

I have scroll through the feed :)

[@soulsurfer3102]

Waiting for this.keep on.more and more please eee.album look sickkk.you must do album."insanaty" model.and lost umber driver xl.

[@mikelong6241]

You nailed the Subdriver 2 !, Ive got a custom Lightspeed Swallow Subdriver Lightspeed ( not Subdriver 2 ) and its awesome in the pool. I bought a Subdriver 2 same Dims aswell when it came out and it felt really hard work compared to my original

[@KalesBroccoli]

Interesting! Glad it’s not just me

[@martinsuter3240]

shit and i order 2 new subdriver 2.0 after my normal subdriver is the best board i ever ride

[@mikelong6241]

Don’t rule it out, I just think the original is really good, also my custom was made in Oz and it’s a super lite glass job in light speed. The Sub 2 I got was made in Thailand and it had heaps of glass on it , looked like a thick coat . And felt heavier

[@ToxicGopher]

Thanks for this mate, really enjoyed it.

[@Popefrancis58295]

The video quality is second to none!

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thanks !

[@martysimpson2199]

Interesting Survey Kale, BUT there is one very big factor you seem to overlook ........ it appears that You only use one shape and size fin set in every 3 fin board you try ..... then complain that some boards are too stiff or not drivey enough - when by simply adding a smaller rear fin to loosen the board up, or by using larger/different shape fins for extra Drive could have transformed an average board into an Excellent one very easily ........ I know in my own quiver how a set of fins that goes fantastic in one board completely bog down in another, and I've very nearly dismissed some designs as "pigs" if not for a simple fin change.

[@KalesBroccoli]

Next time it will be shaper recommended fins. Just don’t have time to change fins for every board it takes it from 11 boards to 30+ which is logistically impossible

[@llewellynvanessen]

Awesome content mate!

[@daviddalzell7057]

#1 Pyzel, #2 tie Album and Aipa imo on the way your surfing looks on the video

[@hanohbl9341]

Wondering if you had to send back these boards after making this video :-) Keep it up!

[@KalesBroccoli]

Described in first episode :)

[@williamcamp7665]

Hayden shapes hypto crypto is a board I rented on a surf trip, it was insanely fun and the rail game was awesome. Surfed it more volume than I usually ride and still felt loose. Would recommend it to anyone, next shortboard I buy will probably be that one

[@ODL957]

Thank you so much for putting out such a great vlog

[@KalesBroccoli]

Thank you for watching these videos!