Kali's CSRX 300: Now Worse Than Ever! - Rainbow Six Siege

Patch Y5 S4.3 has been rushed onto the live servers in a desperate move to fix the loadout reset bug but as a consequence, none of the changes have had the chance to be tested properly. The update to Kali's CSRX 300 sniper rifle (removing the 1-shot-dbno mechanic and increasing the base damage to 122) had already been flagged as a questionable move that might make her borderline unplayable and now for better or for worse, that change is on the live servers. In this video, I will be breaking down the damage stats to explore why exactly the new change is so bad for Kali but that's not all. During my tests I discovered a major issue with the damage multiplier stacking for the CSRX that results in highly unreliable damage output. In short: the CSRX damage model is completely broken and even if it worked as intended, it's a terrible change for Kali players anyway.
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[@durchfaII]

The buff that nerfed an operator.

[@st_420]

Ubi has experience with that. Remember Ela.

[@faj2600]

only ubi would pull that off

[@rominnoodles]

@@faj2600 they are dumb as ever

[@elaiswaifu5459]

@@st_420 Ela isn’t really that bad tbh... I play on console and can control her recoil very well... Tho I will admit the new upcoming nerf isn’t a good thing.

[@elrymoe]

Its just a buff

[@TheGodlyNoob]

Yet again, proof that they do NOT play the game

[@yoink2068]

IKR it’s literally like they don’t even think, they just throw random shit at the game.

[@Kuzess]

@@yoink2068 well, not so random, they are still have game statistics and some feedback but yes, it is not enough to understand, what changes for game are need

[@Mekel01]

More like the dev team, as a collective, got Cs and Ds in maths

[@denomanos7251]

And, what do they do? They push the update out with barely any time in the test server. Kali is one my mains and I'm salty mainly because a bolt action sniper in this game is already a disadvantage. Come on guys.

[@Alecfisher01]

Only a Canadian company would think giving a sniper rifle damage drop off is a good idea lol

[@BananaGamingMatthew]

It takes more bullets to kill enemies and they didn't even increased the amount of bullets you have...smh

[@bastablax91]

Damm right dude

[@thetaikasaapas6318]

Now i feel like every dmr is better than csrx

[@lucasweolopez]

make it a machine gun smh

[@abhinavap4146]

@@thetaikasaapas6318 csrx is now closer to bosg territory

[@EliGlukhov]

the buff that nerfed

[@supermarine2493]

**Gets shot from 35 meters with a highly destructive sniper rifle** "owie"

[@Ruvaakdein]

Didn't need my left lung anyway.

[@aleksandrazaryanova1677]

What I feel is the most mind boggling thing about this is that the further away you are, the less dmg you do... on a bolt action *sniper* rifle.

[@Ruvaakdein]

@@aleksandrazaryanova1677 Every primary weapon in the game has hundreds of meters in terms of effective range, in game they lose damage after 20 meters like everyone is using airsoft guns. Actually even considering airsoft guns, pretty sure they have longer ranges than that too. Everyone has the effective range of Nerf guns.

[@dalan2963]

*laughs in doc*

[@alkestos]

@@Ruvaakdein yeah real life airsoft guns have better range than r6s supposed realistic rifles. Chew on that.

[@KillShot-gt2wu]

Ubisoft: Kali is underperforming and underpicked because of her bad gun Also Ubisoft: let’s nerf kali’s gun

[@Neogears1312]

Remember; They thought this was a buff.

[@Sgil97]

@@Neogears1312 This is why they need to test their own game

[@minhhieuta4794]

haha, that's an intriguing and brainless act of R6s dev team =)) they just only listening youtuber, streamers, pro players, blabla and ignore/neglect the whole opinion of community. We should make a boycott campaign aganist ubisoft to make them clear who is contribute majority to their fortune.

[@Sovann_the_Mighty]

@@Neogears1312 no, they try to (and fail to) hide it as a buff. Of course they know it's going to be a nerf

[@Neogears1312]

@@Sovann_the_Mighty they announced it as a buff, explained it was to make the character better and said she wasn’t picked enough for their liking. They’re just really bad at buffing.

[@ryduann]

a slug round shotgun, the bosg with an ACOG, is now statistically better in every way than a 50 caliber bolt action custom sniper rifle.

[@R4M_Tommy]

Technically it's a 300 winchester magnum.

[@williamclougherty3382]

the actual gun is a .308

[@bostonian4650]

.300 Winchester, but close enough

[@siri_uos8246]

LOL, Dokkaebi is superior to Kali Now

[@ToxicSkull0]

@@R4M_Tommy it’s not technically it IS indeed a 300 win

[@ark4269]

Kali was underperforming, so we nerfed her to reduce frustration of the enemy team.

[@frozenmagicaster2724]

Just let pros complain then ubi will get on their hands and knees to appeal the pros

[@the_tube2]

@@frozenmagicaster2724 i have never heard a pros say that kali should be nerfed

[@frozenmagicaster2724]

@@the_tube2 not kali, but things like goyo, zofia withstand, ect

[@zannabia9212]

Clash be like

[@the_tube2]

@@frozenmagicaster2724 yeah because goyo was fucking with the comp scene too much like there had to be a nerf or goyo would rule the comp meta ,and zofia withstand ALRIGHT, she didnt need her withstand it served no reason to be there why? Say a new player asks me "why is ash an entry fragger" i would say " she has a good gun, a 3 speed rating and her gadget helps with enemy gadgets but not waith important stuff like opening walls and shit like that" Than he ask " why does zofia have withstand" How do i answer this, "just because?" Doc has it as he can heal people and himself and it would make sense cause he is doc, doing doc things. Hell it wouldve made more sense if finka had it than zofia So why did zofia have withstand? Idk you cant explain it without logic. Basicly im saying ubi doesnt bend over for pros, im saying Ubi looked at the op like zofia and said "why does she have withstand" doesnt really make sense in a comp game where balance and fairness is the number 1 thing the devs gotta maintain, Same with goyo ubi looked at the data and saw goyo being basicly picked everytime and did what they had to do. Im not saying its perfect but wtf does withstand add to zofia? Nothing its just dumb and stupid like how the lore mechcanics were, just there because

[@Fortune.5]

*Glaz quietly laughing after sneaking into Ubisoft headquarters and nerfing Kali:*

[@i-Melika]

Damn right😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ettubrute197]

@@i-Melika BOSG HAS ENTERED THE CHAT

[@i-Melika]

@@ettubrute197 even bosg is more lethal than kali's sniper now

[@ettubrute197]

@@i-Melika I’m saying they made kali LITERALLY useless now her sniper is trash and replaced with the bosg they might as well remove kali from the game

[@outdater9302]

Glaz is good if you can control the recoil, change my mind

[@RandomBeing]

"We want to simplify Kalis Sniper Rifle so we replace the mechanic that works the same most of the time by a bunch of wierd random damage numbers."

[@agletuser6738]

Ah yes she’s getting the Montangue treatment of “She’s slightly underpowered but people find her a bit annoying to play against so let’s buff one tiny aspect of her that will almost never be utilized and nerf almost everything that gave the operator their identity and call it a good change!”

[@stoptakingusernamepls6381]

You just described almost every operator nerf perfectly m8, cav didnt deserve any of this :(.

[@Betroid]

She takes a shit load of skill to play effectively

[@lilmisssinz]

“You are more likely to catch COVID than you are of getting a 1 shot kill with Kali.” Nah bro I’m never using her again that’s ridiculous

[@Dude-do8vo]

me neither and I really liked playing as her :/

[@mu556]

She's a really good alternative when Thatcher gets banned but she will get next to nothing playtime with this messed up nerf. Ubi PLS

[@JohnNowakKindSir]

Now I feel bad about buying her

[@justalpha9138]

I won't use her in protest until they fix it. This was beyond unacceptable.

[@Chasodey]

She was difficult, skillful but rewarding operator. Every Kali checking corridors with smg could be named Pussy as true Kali always trusts her steady hand. And now it's nonsense. Now if you meet a 3-armor a boy from Simpsons would tell you "I'm in danger" coz besides headshot you have no chance against him.

[@Striker11v4]

Reducing confusion...? Really...? THAT'S the logic behind this? Saying: "the massive sniper always downs in one bodyshot" is about a simple as it gets. Having a complex damage curve with a variety of outcomes against different armor types at different ranges is way harder to keep track of.

[@supdude1498]

I literally shot a Jaeger 2 feet away from me and I died because of this Fuck this game

[@delamovies]

Well, why would expect things to have logic and make sense when the game is made by mouthbreathers?

[@funkycord1336]

@@supdude1498 same i literally shot pulse shoulder off around 10 meters away walked it off domed me and had a quarter of his health left a 3 speed 1 armor survived a sniper rifle shot from basically point blank range

[@0racleisuppose]

Ah yes, getting shot by a custom *anti-personnel rifle, designed to basically cut holes in people with just one shot* will now cause mild discomfort to a fat french guy using a dinner plate to pad his kevlar. Makes sense, thanks ubi

[@lukasm5301]

lmao

[@thetaikasaapas6318]

Seems balanced😂😂

[@charleouel9012]

fat isn't material right?

[@battleaxealex4449]

I don’t think its an anti mat rifle but in any cause ya you wouldn’t take more than a single hit for most calibers coming out that barrel

[@0racleisuppose]

@@battleaxealex4449 Given what it does to walls, I'm inclined to say it's anti-mat

[@jewelgem8074]

Jager: *Got a nerf that was actually a buff* Kali: *Got a buff that was actually a nerf*

[@antonitog3871]

For jager it was def a nerf, but yeah kali got nerfed for legit no reason

[@massonfink4522]

@@antonitog3871 he might be talking about the recoil not the mag size. The new recoils kind of nice actually, the mag cap though…….. not so much.

[@alexanderflack566]

@@antonitog3871 Might be referring to changing the device from 2 shots and empty to 10 second cooldown with infinite uses.

[@st_420]

Imagine a Doc with Rook plates now needs 3 body shots on certain distances, than goes down and revives himself with 75 HP. KEKW

[@pascalmeyer4275]

So Kali wont have bullets left After she killed Rook and Doc

[@CopeAndSeeth]

What does KEKW mean?

[@Zakro116]

Ubi: We don’t want people to use their secondary weapons like primaries so we’re nerfing the recoil of the secondary machine pistols Also Ubi:

[@trevor5834]

Thatcher is consistently banned on any rank above silver so having substantial nerfing Kali like this makes zero sense, especially when the "confusion" from her gun is a non-issue. I'm new to r6. Learned what her gun did by day 3 of playing using this magical thing called Google

[@muchluck7981]

It wasn't a nerf per say, they tried to make it easier for people to understand the gun better but in the process unintentionally nerfed it.

[@benbenson1466]

Confusing: Gun downs opponent except Limbshots and thicc Bois. Straightforward: Gun kills some, except limb shots sometimes. Downs some, damages some, except if they have extra armour. Effects may differ with range. Perfect Logic Ubisoft, hats down to you.

[@goblindan2555]

@@benbenson1466 I agree ... I was perfectly fine with her 1 shot down mechanic... >: (

[@Hollycalvey]

@@benbenson1466 this is exactly what I’ve been saying... how is it’s current performance “confusing” and how the fuck is this new system better

[@muchluck7981]

@@Hollycalvey Maybe they can adjust the numbers easier? They can increase the gun's power so that it can outright kill a 3 speed and down a 2/3 speed then rook can at least make sure they only get downed instead.

[@MonoMori]

"Hey guys, Kalis pretty weak. We decided to nerf her weapon even more, making her even worse than she already is."

[@toxicgreen8833]

They should give her more mobility with the sniper sos for a year late reply

[@rookie2128]

Love how time and patches go by rogue becomes less and less forgiving towards the devs

[@youcantcme2]

Well it's more likely he has no friendship with them and how he feels hard done by ubi he doesn't care anymore.

[@tthreepo4291]

We are about 6 months from video titles like: "CASTLE Rework: Ubisoft can suck my dick"

[@Matevoz72]

It’s prob cause ubisoft acted really shitty towards rogue so now he doesn’t care if his words to ubi are harsh or jot

[@BabyRooth]

@@tthreepo4291 lolol I was thinking the same thing. The next thumbnail will be a pic of Zofia and the title "I'm glad withstand is gone... Also Fuck Ubisoft"

[@ZachAndFriends1996]

I mean personal beef he has with them aside, it's the same shitty balancing decisions being made time and time again. I think everyone is pretty fed up with them at this point

[@CrushableDread]

“We here at Ubisoft want to lessen the confusion that getting shot by Kali will result in a down, by adding unnecessary layers that complicate her performance and ultimately undermine the operator’s existence.”

[@antonitog3871]

"We here at Ubisoft want to lessen the inconsistencies in the game, specifically Kali, so we made her more consistently terrible!"

[@dalton9497]

Rook is too strong, so i would take away one of Blackbeards shield to balance the game

[@Creepersuppe]

And a Goyo shield while they are at it.

[@kozuu8024]

While also removing mp5 from doc.

[@thefallenglass6103]

@Nico Schilling that was Pretty Savage 😂🤣

[@nathanchandler18]

@@thefallenglass6103 everyone makes this stupid comment one every single nerf video.

[@AT-ob8xr]

They should take away both if they want to balance the game

[@1011約束]

As a Kali main, this broke me. It made me question if i was truly hitting my shots.

[@theodorethanos2038]

I still don't get how this went straight to the live servers, even with the backlash from the moment it was announced.

[@BigBoss549]

Well it went to the test servers first but they’ve had this in mind for awhile

[@Neogears1312]

Because the test server is just for stability checks and youtubers to advertise the game for you. They don’t care about what they put in the game at this rate or the community reacts. In their minds they can do no wrong.

[@Asdf-wf6en]

because ubisoft is incredibly dumb

[@Gypsyshaman]

I already had a bad feeling when I was readimg the patch notes, but I thought "nah, let's wait for rouge's analysis first" Well, fuck

[@SpoopyChicken]

At Ubisoft HQ: Employee: "Sir, this gun is underperforming what should we do?" Boss: "Oh, well simple really, all we do is buff it." Employee: "Oh! Ok, then sir, how about we make the gun kill three speeds?" Boss: "GOOD IDEA!" Employee: "nice, well we'll implement this right away si-" Boss: "AND WE'LL REMOVE HER GUARANTEED DOWN ABILITY ON HER GUN!" Employee: "I- what, sir-" Boss: "AND WE'LL MAKE 3 ARMORS SURVIVE A SHOT TO THE CHEST FROM HER GUN!." Employee: "No- wha- Sir she needs a buff not a ne-" Boss: "OH OH AND LET'S MAKE ROOK COMPLETELY COUNTER HER WHICH WILL ALMOST GUARANTEE THAT SHE'LL LOSE EVERY GUNFIGHT!" Employee: "Sir, I really think tha-" Boss: "OH BRILLIANT! GO IMPLEMENT IT NOW!" Employee: "I... of course... right away sir..."

[@WhiteHawke8]

Bold of you to assume the Boss here knows anything about how the weapon actually works now...

[@godlovesyou1995]

Yea with his 2x scope he can out- snipe kali now it takes 3 body shots to kill. Probably 4 shots if one hits his leg

[@christaincarvalho]

*slaps dev's ass* Good job, son.

[@alannn7108]

bruh cringe

[@clonescope2433]

This just proves Ubisoft listens to a few whiners and doesn't play their own game.

[@IIIWynnerIII]

💀💀💀

[@Francesco-bf8cb]

"Your character is more likely to catch COVID than to die to Kali"

[@sneakylilcav4373]

Thats a big oof from ubi.

[@lunchpin403]

Covid would kill them quicker too

[@fojjed]

Rouge, now free of the concern of the R6 dev team's feelings in his videos, rips Ubisoft a new one and I love it

[@JusFoNo]

The description change would look so damn good, that's legit the best answer to operators' 'hidden stats'.

[@Neogears1312]

Yeah but then how are ESL players gonna blame the game for their incompetence?

[@JusFoNo]

@@Neogears1312 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@ridhosamudro2199]

@Zhelesnyy Volk I think Ubi just want a scapegoat for the change and already wanted to remove it for quite some time. Otherwise the option to nerf withstand is pretty obvious: increase the time to complete it, or better yet, make a sound cue for it.

[@christaincarvalho]

@Zhelesnyy Volk yes, siege's object penetration is very strange, i remember those fucking metal beans in old Oregon's basement stairs, they were literally 2mm thick and solid as a vault door

[@chunkyrabbit1032]

I mean to ubisoft it doesn't make sense that a sniper that fires a bullet the size of a car should one hit kill anybody to the body or even one hit down them so they just nerfed it in the ground

[@birubu]

Rook: literally softcounters every attacker Ubi: “he needs a buff”

[@maismade6013]

The king is back teaching me how to get out of gold. Ignore those certain “people” and do what you enjoy rogue🙌🏿

[@bolbster]

Fax

[@tacillo]

Well his aim is probably not gold but his tips are

[@rominnoodles]

Speaking of gold I’m almost out of there I need 9 games was 8 but teammates threw

[@abhinavap4146]

@@tacillo He puts analysis videos, where he explores and dive deep into the game mechanics, instead of opinionated videos, like the "certain people" mentioned in the main comment. For this content Im okay if he's a bad player or if he even doesn't play the game as much.

[@travisbroneske3711]

Great video! The Devs "could" balance Kali's rifle well, but I am almost certain they will not. As you mentioned: Dev statement: "we are adjusting due to confusion" Actual result: SIGNIFICANTLY MORE CONFUSING Mid season patch: Devs: "we are getting away from hidden abilities" Literally the same season's operator: ->"hidden" soft destruction ability Personally, I am: A) tired of the devs nerfing this game into oblivion. B) tired of the devs saying 1 thing and LITERALLY doing the opposite Thanks for the excellent content, in addition to the research and testing you put into your content!

[@qnethe8014]

Ah yes, they changed a worse AWP to an even worse SSG08. I might as well play BOSG ACOG because it is just statistically better LOL this gun is a massive joke

[@DuskYokai]

Ikr like bosg is inconsistent with damage but hell ill take it over kali at this point

[@abhinandhari7812]

True true, it's fast and atleast fun to use

[@xTheNameisEthan]

Anyone with a dmr and a 3x has a way better gun that has the same kind of range at this point

[@godlovesyou1995]

Bosg gets 2 shots u can follow up, kali's 5x scope is usually too powerful and the bosg can get an angled grip. Also dokkaebi has a much better gadget

[@winter6407]

@@godlovesyou1995 Kali doesn’t have a 9x Dokkaebi’s gadget is not similar in any way so comparing them is stupid Also, why are you using the bosg instead of the DMR anyways?

[@YokaiFoxy_]

As a kali main, it hurt me physically to read the patch notes, I already often had clunky game mechanics screwing me over where body shots didn't cause a DNBO before patch (note - this happened to operators without rook armour) but now whenever I hit body shots on 3speed operators they just walk away with just a scratch and causing me to loose the fight due to down time before I can shoot again or switch weapon.

[@arshadsiddiqui9071]

The buff really should have been 3 speeds are insta-killed and the rest left unchanged. Edit: Got armour and speed mixed.

[@kaydenphillips1094]

I 100% agree

[@dekudude8888]

Ela mains would be furious

[@D.Wapher]

Maybe you meant insta-killing plateless 3-speed ops?

[@wasw]

@@D.Wapher yeah he probably meant 1 armor

[@Spolsky101]

So bassically 125 base dmg. Still Rook makes it a joke but maybe that's fair counter

[@Tyler-ko6kc]

"We buffed Wamai by removing one of his magnets"

[@knavishknack7443]

Saw the patch notes and convinced myself that Ubi is trolling us. Turns out im wrong. Best way to balance the CSRx is 1 shot insta kill against 3 and 2 speed. . 1 speed goes into DBNO. Remove all the nonsense with Rook armor and remove the speed penalty when running with the gun. The only way to increase her pick rate would be to give her another secondary SMG which I dont think is a good idea. Just rework thatcher or introduce another thatcher alternative operator.

[@alguienxdd9630]

I could see this working, but if they get a rook is a dbno, for 1,2, and 3 speeds, and the gun speed is fine imo

[@sademo2656]

Just make it insta kill and when someone has rook armor u get down simple

[@DustyOrange]

Ngl, probably would have been way simpler if they made her sniper ALWAYS dbno or kill anyone 80 HP or under and ignore Rook armor. It's an anti-material rifle, shit gonna ignore armor IRL anyways and it would make the gun super consistent. Would allow her to be a real threat in the right hands and area deny HARD, forcing defenders to push her. Meanwhile, her weak point is doing the actual pushing. And if you suck with aiming, you're fucked from the 1.2s of weapon switching or chambering unless the enemy has even worse aim. If she's still too weak, maybe allow her to shoot through reinforced walls but create no holes and lose 1/2-3/4 of her damage with no headshot instakill, dealing 25-50 damage to someone behind the wall? It'd be hard to get a lucky wallbang with a bolt action and it'd be stupid to waste your limited ammo too unless you know you can hit them. Allows her to destroy some gadgets or prevent tricking, to an extent, or at least makes it riskier to trick.

[@bluehawkbill5445]

I think the best balancing would be: 3 speeds - Kill instantly W/ Rook armor - DBNO 2 speeds - Kill instantly W/ Rook - DBNO. 3 Speeds - DBNO W/ Rook - same. The gun shouldn't ever experience damage drop because of surfaces, that shit can tear huge holes through 5 surfaces in a row normally, I don't think human flesh is extremely more potent than 5 layers of wood, or if shot through a surface, 4 layers.

[@stickdrip_7581]

Id say 3 armors get dbno, 2 and 1 armors die.

[@UnPokemon]

"Kali's gun being difficult to use is what makes her unpopular in the community, so we nerfed the gun". FUCKING. BRILLIANT.

[@petarkrtolica9349]

lesgooo rouge is the only reason i watch rainbow 6

[@fezthedracky8468]

Same, I haven't touched siege in almost a year and yet I'm still watching each and every of Rogue's videos, top class quality

[@snap_oversteer7483]

This man is the only reason why i am still interested in siege love him

[@Crishz]

He's our representative in this everlasting fight with ubisoft

[@MadameMinty]

One shot DBNO mechanic was more intuitive to me than weird damage drop-off with THAT rifle. It's AWP-I thought everyone acts like it's AWP-so I'm surprised Ubi decided something is confusing to someone. To who?!

[@budgetbajur]

"Kali underperforming, Rook affected the most"

[@leonardo6409]

10:05 THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN!!! really tho why don't we apply that solution to literally every god damn thing? Zofia's withstand, Ela's DBNO stun, Rook plates guaranteeing DBNO, Doc's health boost, Lesion mines blocking running, explaining Finka's boost better since the current explanation doesn't say even a third of what it actually does, give back Echo's immunity to cellphone ring, and so on and so forth, if confusion is such a problem we need to inform, not dismantle if a mechanic wasn't understanding an engine you wouldn't start taking off parts until they did because then the engine no longer works, they're trying to oversimplify a game that has thrived due to its more complex and adaptable gameplay, this will not end well

[@amnaah653]

I only realised, a lot of the footage has the old bombs also the SAS Pistol, I don't think Rogue uses Kali very often lmao

[@strikervx4435]

why would people use kali often lol? she is just a thatcher substitute in case of thatcher is banned

[@amnaah653]

@@strikervx4435 the operator who is banned in 70% of games. Answered it yourself

[@kempo_95]

@@amnaah653 there are better alternatives though.

[@daemonlordmagnusthered6213]

@@kempo_95 Way better alternatives in most cases. The most Kali I have seen for using her gadget is Chalet or Consulate, or Coastline for shooting people from Ruins.

[@derdrakkar]

@@amnaah653 Nah, in those cases I'm just gonna go sledge/buck or something to destroy stuff from below/above, not dealing with the sniper rifle.

[@Katster]

How many shots would it take to kill a Doc with Rook armour, who is over healed (140hp), who is also behind a soft wall from 34m away. I need to know this so I can laugh at ubi. Good video Rouge!

[@noctanix1227]

I love how they're making Kali's gun less lethal leaving on people on 3 health when one of the hottest topics rn in siege is removing withstand because of 1 shot headshots

[@Neogears1312]

It never was about the game. It was about pros saving face and having things cater to them.

[@thegloomyglizzy9968]

@@Neogears1312 Ubisoft had the Withstand nerf talked about way before the pro-game.

[@donvalentino9822]

I mean if Ubi ever wanted to prove even after this that they don’t play this game, they could give Rook armour helmet to stop headshots because “that will finally make him useful against everyone”

[@Wrevex]

I want to know why there was confusion with a head shot kill

[@sheikfrankicechibu1827]

dude hope you are well don't stop doing what you do!

[@DearMink_X]

2 Speed: Shot by various bullets and falls to the ground Guess i'll crawl 2 Speed: Gets Ribcage and organs shattered by sniper over 25m away. I will spam running, crouching, leaning, and shoot them to death.

[@DanDennisRobloxman]

CUSTOM Sniper rifle I may add.

[@tiltfuse4020]

It’s almost like Bungie is balancing this game...

[@panickal]

There is one solution to this. *Full auto 50 cal*

[@ThePilgrimLad]

it's been done ;)

[@wimpyhugz_TGK]

Demolition Ranch made an IRL full auto version of Maverick's AR15.50 DMR. See kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZ28gGBroaaWh6c (skip to around 4:00 to see them start firing it). If that was in the game, gg anyone facing off against that kind of weapon...

[@mikeakersa8566]

Ma deuce

[@lark7628]

@@ThePilgrimLad lovely seeing you here heh

[@banishedpest115]

Barret spam intensifies.

[@axelarkamg196]

They needed to make damage range falloff up to 50 meters. That also would clasify gun as the sniper and made sense of it dealing damage on distance as all the DMR does.

[@speedtree]

We love you Rogue! :-) Just came by the idea, why not have kali cause a nomad effect on the enemy, that would give her enough time to chamber another bullet

[@devor110]

that effectively kills the target, so why not have it be a DBNO? also it could in certain cases lead to an enemy falling through a wall to safety

[@g8x2keeper]

@@devor110 dbno could also help them to safety, and if they have a finka or Ally it’s the same way. I personally believe it should be one shot with no exception but speedtrees idea would also be nice

[@Coconut1087]

@@g8x2keeper Finka? Is Kali a defender now? ;)

[@Sgil97]

@@g8x2keeper I think you mean Doc

[@speedtree]

@@devor110 exactly, it will be very strong but not broken, as a direct DBNO is in the eyes of UBI. I think it is a great alternative to DBNO. As long as you are constantly hitting your shots you are not going to eat a bullet from your target.

[@Ghoastly]

You might as well bring glaz. The games literally Nerf Clanceys: Nerbow 6 Nerfge

[@VolodyaTheFroge]

As a Kali main, I was so mad when I heard about this change. The point of Kali was "you hit - you win, you miss - you die", but now it is impossible to duel 3 armor defenders, because it will take too long to kill them. You can't deal with spawnpeeking rook now, he is too chonky. Moreover, you can't play Kali as a sniper now because the damage reduction will make her shots pointless.

[@joe-ug6fn]

Right, none of these youtubers even mentioned this, you miss a 3 amour you die you hit you die shits dumb

[@justalpha9138]

I'm surprised as to just how many people main Kali besides me.

[@Chasodey]

@@justalpha9138 I will stand for it. Maybe not main, Iana is bae for me with supressed ARX but still I love to take Kali with warmed-up hand and shoot some weirdoes. Not anymore.

[@I39393I]

with 35m drop off u cant deal with any spawnpeek if ur not landing headshot

[@Cydoniaaa]

I just got into using her and then they do this..CANT HAVE SHIT IN THIS HOUSE

[@Demon__Killer007]

Ubisoft: making good things bad and bad things worse.

[@Gra5ss]

Kali has been my one main on attack and it’s literally unplayable now

[@noir6384]

I know your pain dude, i know...

[@LifeFlight22]

Its truly sad, because I just got her and she's worthless...

[@schlopsker.mp5]

Glaz players rejoice.

[@KNlF3]

Making things more complicated makes her easier to understand and use yes

[@Pouncingpuma7]

Ubisoft: "We noticed that ________ is causing frustration for players. Therefore we're nerfing _________ to be completely useless."

[@Buginskin]

Example, sheilds, lion (was needed but was a little too far) , kapkan, and a couple others that i seriously cant think of

[@Territorialist]

Just you saying her gun is "Literal dog water" forced me to like.

[@Z3nryu]

Nug moment

[@RogueBipolarDemon]

THANK YOU, I've been saying for days, since they revealed the Patch notes, that this is a massive nerf for Kali and you've just confirmed my every fear and worse. As the Kali Main in my stack (With that 70% ban rate of Thatch) this pisses me off so much that they tried painting this as a buff.

[@JackJones-pw6cw]

An easy buff would’ve been to just make her instakill 3 speeds unless they wear rook armour and down everybody else. It’s not like rook was underperforming before this change he was already pretty good. Why all this inconsistent nonsense ubi?

[@dirtiscake4701]

I was so exited about hearing about her buff. Then, it turned into a nerf.

[@TheMihig]

When i read the dev blog, i was like "Lol what, Kali nerfs?" Then i heard they were supposed to be "buffs". Who the hell let those changes get through thinking they would be a buff to Kali???

[@MickDeaks]

Oh and has Flanked said "sorry" yet? Rooting for you, brother.

[@xxyyzzxyz-y4i]

Ubisoft needs to learn to code. And then make good games again

[@julius855]

I stopped playing when the new dev team came around and i think it was the right Decision because everything since than has either been ridicoules additions or just stupid balance changes

[@motalux]

love how Ubi's strat to remove hidden stats isn't to explain the stats, but to remove them ubi really need to reverse this dumbassery

[@fluffyspark798]

I was playing as kali yesterday in unranked and died to a spawnpeeker because they didn’t get downed in one hit. I was very frustrated with this new change

[@bakagamingcommentary]

she gone from being super situation operator into now a operator you dont touch with a 10 mile poll.

[@temhunter6341]

Essentially turned into pre rework tachanka...

[@drndarevicstefan2396]

In what world do kevlar and plates stop a anti material 50 cal sniper rifle? And how the heck can a semi auto 5.56 dmr have better range than a bolt action 50. cal

[@worthlessisopod4628]

Every character I love gets neutered.

[@MemeNabber]

Damn, I come back to this channel sometimes and it reminds me why I quit playing siege before year 5

[@titanfall3news913]

As a kali main im going to do a triple backflipoff the empire state building, why ubisoft, why?

[@CynralKynathel]

God I love the shade Rogue throws at Ubi for removing “hidden mechanics” rather than just adding an in-game description.

[@wisemadprofessor77]

i'm sorry why did kali need changing that much? she was fine after they gave her clash's machine pistol, i never thought i was being injusticed when killed by her. slow fire rate, slow movement but high damage is balanced, sketchy damage, slow fire rate and slow movement is not

[@sbsnate2312]

Why didn't they just increase the health after a DBNO to characters downed by Kali? Maybe from 20 to 50 hp or something like that...

[@avitus5770]

I remember times when Glaz did this much damage with his semi auto. Man I sometimes wish they just reverted him back to how he was in the beginning, heh.

[@PrivateMemo]

What? How was the guaranteed down confusing? To me it doesn't really get any more straight-forward.

[@darioschottlender]

Literally the most consistent gun in the game

[@vitalianovitiani5109]

I love how you grew more savage with each passing year XD. And rightfully so if you were to ask my opinion.

[@jolynecujoh162]

As a kali main I dont think I'll be playing siege for another month or so until they fix this

[@cerjmedia]

8:51 Proof that Rogue is a Pro MLG Quickscoper

[@dominikstratford7301]

nah, he didn't do a 360, mate, not MLG enough

[@alishaabani83]

I really don't know how the 1-shot DBNO mechanic could ever confuse someone. You hit in the body, you down the opponent. That's it. It was fine the way it was. And I even think they needed to buff the aiming speed our sth.

[@zacharynewcomb6382]

Love your data analysis. One question, when armor and speed are always related to one another, why do you define 3 armor operators as "1 speed" instead of "3 armor". They're synonymous, but when the focus in the data analysis is the effect against armor, why do you define them by their speed?

[@Rogue9]

Haha, in literally every one of my past videos, I always called it by armour rather than speed, even though the general convention amongst the r6 community is to go with speed. This is the first time I changed it up. But I see your argument, maybe armour is more intuitive for the purposes of my discussions.

[@supersonicstrat]

Ubi in Kali's patch notes: "Oh no! Anyway..."

[@DEUKRO]

Finally I missed your vids

[@marty8765]

Ubisoft: let's simplify the mechanic that is very self explanatory and no one has confusion with

[@Rei_VAL]

Ubisoft is legit turning into valve now Just Adding shit without testing it.

[@JinxDaCat]

Switch the CSRX so if you hit a leg shot, it triggers a speed debuff (slowing down the operator for 10 seconds by about 30%), and if you hit an arm shot, it triggers an ADS debuff (slowing down ADS time by about 25% and slightly increases recoil) and bring back the one shot down body shot, and if you down someone, there will be a massive bleedout debuff which decreases DBNO time from 60 seconds to 20 (when holding down wound) and from 30 seconds to 10 (when not holding down wound). This makes it so players can't crawl away after downing them long range (or atleast give them a smaller chance of getting away).

[@Issi808]

"Fancypants straight-pull bolt action" 😂😂😂

[@DaniDuffMan]

Wow. Is Kali still like this? Or they changed her again?

[@user-Kallar]

Same question

[@h73x95]

This Kali change just makes zero sense. Hopefully this will be reverted soon.

[@justalpha9138]

I KNOW!! IT'S SO FUCKING DUMB. XD

[@hbrtoni414]

They will take their time until the next season or longer...

[@durchfaII]

Yup, let's wait 1 year or 2 to see it!!

[@sademo2656]

Just make her sniper 1 shot 1 kill and when theres rook armor u get downed

[@hbrtoni414]

@@sademo2656 i think that would be too good. Maybe only for 3 speeds and instead giving he gadget more damage so she can finish downed players more easily

[@zacknightthefifthking]

If they wanted to make Rook a counter to Kali they should have made it where if a defender has a plate, the sniper takes 2 shots to down. This way the chest, one hit down mechanic will stay and keep Kali somewhat viable. If not this they need to make her bullet reset faster so she can fire shots off more consecutively. But to be honest they should have left her alone, maybe just make her reset faster.

[@beedo4850]

HE'S BACK!!!!

[@supdude1498]

My fucking issue with this entire nerf is WHO THE HELL THOUGHT THAT THE BIG BOOM BOOM RIFLE ONE SHOT DOWNING PEOPLE WAS CONFUSING??????

[@BDKing77]

I'm so early that I got fired form a job interview

[@spookyboi1181]

Is it, maybe, because you massacred thousands

[@game-zer0387]

@@spookyboi1181 lol dat username.

[@Scion15]

@@spookyboi1181 thousands? Do you know anything about genghis khan? Lol

[@spookyboi1181]

@@Scion15 I know he probably killed more than thousands, but it was a pretty rough estimate

[@Scion15]

@@spookyboi1181 just a little more than a few thousand. It was millions.

[@Starlesslemon]

I mainly play on console where already absolutely nobody uses her. I don't expect that to change.

[@Agent_Deko_]

Oh Ubisoft has made us Kali mains very angry! Us 12

[@noir6384]

Yeh, i m a kali main and ai am ver angry

[@ellisfinnie4279]

brother how could they do this to us

[@noir6384]

@@ellisfinnie4279 Now, one part of my heard broken, i am so sad ;-;

[@andrewcosta5001]

As always, love how in-depth these vids go, Thank you Mr.Rogue9