Kam & Napoleon discuss their differences about ISLAM

[@dodosback]

My brother Mutah represented Islam very well in my opinion. I am free from the belief of the other man. Mutah I got love for you brother for the sake of Allah.

[@cccc3803]

It's nice how respectful you are

[@solidgaming9815]

Cam is a very respectful dude, you got my respect for your way of debating, but clearly Mutah is speaking facts and sticks to the quran and sunnah

[@LiveReality19]

Mutah sounded foundation less

[@samboy90]

@@LiveReality19 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@ndesdsadfd]

@@LiveReality19 Dude, NOI is a very recent American thing. What Mutah is following is the true ancient doctrine. Do you realise how old Islam is?

[@Bro.DerylMuhammad]

@@ndesdsadfdIslam is as old as Allah Himself because Islam began with Allah.

[@DASMART]

I loved listening to this, great job dear brother.

[@OGKingPimpin]

The nation would be so much stronger if they accepted Islam

[@fredmcdaniels2912]

They do and they did you late just protocol

[@LiveReality19]

Arab Muslims wish they could do the work of the Nation of Islam. They been investing in prison for 6 decades trying to reproduce just ONE Malcolm X! They can’t do it because they do not have the teachings of Elijah Muhammad from God Allah

[@normjr629]

Kam represented, Napoleon is fire the brothers are good I need to get my s!@# together

[@purveyorofproof]

I enjoyed the respectful conversation between the brothers. It was informative. I agree with brother Mutah however. I studied under Elijah Muhammad's son, Akbar Muhammad, in NY and his views were in accordance with what Mutah said and the what the rest of the ahl sunnah wa Jamaat hold firmly to be the truth. Peace

[@chrisblackk5400]

Love the track my brother,,can we get more information and knowledge

[@koolmoe1971]

Shout out to both brothers. Much respect. I am like Mutah. I represent the Muslims of Sunnah Wa Al Jammat.

[@mathematical_theology]

In the Pittsburgh Courier The Lamb said the “black mud” is the sperm of the Blackman. Also, the law of gender (immutable universal law) can’t be broken. You can’t even plug in a laptop without a male and female port. Great build.

[@firstnamelastname1453]

Al-hamdulillah, Al-hamdulillahi rabbil 'alameen. Masha Allah wa tabarakallah. I love brother Mutah. He is upon the quran and sunnah. When I see brother Amir and brother Mutah, they warm my heart. Al-hamdulillah, May Allah guide more Americans to Islam.

[@MitchMarley1]

This was so good

[@HighBearChief]

Sometimes you stumble across a gem and see the diamonds after all the pressure....Inspirational.....Salute!

[@MuslimProphetscom]

The Quran was revealed in Arabic. English speakers HAVE TO go back to Quranic Arabic scholars to understand the rules of the language. Why did Allah say this word here and that word there. There are deep rules to the language. Its not a mongrel language like English. I think you are trying to explain terms such as "I" and "We" using your own grammatical thinking. It don't work like that.

[@amaanmuhammad4075]

MuslimProphets.com Elijah Muhammad also said you need a real Quran in Arabic. So what did the scholars do? Allah never said a damn thing about a royal we. That’s the interpretation of no divine man. Imam Mahdi has not said this nor prophet Muhammad. Those who GUESSED at the truth said that. Not saying their guess was uneducated but it’s not necessarily so. We care not for the scholars interpretation we want Allah’s interpretation.

[@amaanmuhammad4075]

MuslimProphets.com you all submit to so called scholars we submit to Allah

[@carlmuhammad3938]

MuslimProphets.com I & We is what it is it doesn't mean other than what it is

[@mkkm5489]

@@amaanmuhammad4075 I don't know where you get that from hahahaha! When ALLAH is using we he is showing his power,when he speaks and says I he is usually showing mercy...ALLAH is always saying that he is 1 in the Quran and from the sayings of the prophet. This guy is saying we are all ALLAH hahahaha! Completely against Qur'an!

[@abdullas100]

Prophet Muhammad did not speak English, nor was he ever sent to America. Holy Quran 14:4 And We did not send any messenger but with the language of his people, so that he might explain to them clearly; then Allah makes whom He pleases err and He guides whom He pleases and He is the Mighty, the Wise. Holy Quran 10:47 - "And for every nation there is a messenger..."

[@Nigmatics]

Peace to both brothers. Great discussion

[@AliKhan-jr9cd]

This guys arguments can be dismantled in 2 minutes

[@eddieg3287]

Kam..good lookin out on this 1. Im n Saudi Arabia 6 months out of the year and in the U.S. the other 6months so i see the difference and that perspective is evident in this conversation.

[@kingofwilcoxstreetkows8351]

Love both of yall brother's glad to see yall together!!!

[@bossnutt]

Good Build... 💯💯💯

[@taz9371]

Got a lot of love for brother Muta.

[@MrQwizman]

He Sounds Like Hes More Intent On Being Arabic Than He True Self A Black Man 🤔 So He Base Every Thing Through The Eyes Of People Who Don’t Even Treat Black Arabic’s Right 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@freetownmkteer]

You’re being disingenuous Islam isn’t a “Black” or African system no matter what Wesley Muhammad wrote. The Arabs brought it the Africans and a White /Indian man re-introduced it to Black Americans.

[@koolmoe1971]

Don't be foolish.

[@koolmoe1971]

Arabic has nothing to do with being Muslim.

[@koolmoe1971]

@@freetownmkteer Wrong. Blacks were apart of Islam since the beginning. You know nothing about Islam. That is VERY APPARENT.

[@quickhands6347]

Nah. It's that interpretations get mixed up without knowing Arabic. Because like he said certain words in Arabic cant be translated to English. So the closest term in English is used even though it's not as accurate.

[@AnupKumar-ru1ee]

Asalaamu alaykum bros Great conversation. Brother Mutha there is a book called " The Messengers and The Messages" in the Light of the Qur'an and Sunnah. By Dr 'Umar S. al-Ashqar. Brother please try and get this series from Darrusalam. In shah ALLAH

[@hydro8sixty]

Peace To All Allah Suns this was dope

[@yusufmusa316]

The nation of islam guy also said that Arabic is the language of God,he misunderstood the Quran,Arabic is the language that the prophet Muhammad spoke and understood,so it makes perfect sense for Allah to seen the Quran in the language that the prophet Muhammad spoke,Allah said He always seen His revelation to His prophets in the language that the prophets speak.this guy likes to twist the Quran to fit his distorted way of thinking.and he mention moses and said that Allah said you can see him,Allah clearly says in the Quran no vision can grasp Him but Allah grasp all visions.when the nation of islam guy quoted those who have perversity in their hearts take the allegorical parts to try to mislead people he was indirectly describing himself,Alhumdulillah.

[@woodymacmusic5295]

Both of you brothers are very deep and educated, Im learning!

[@bahmed6721]

Kam is knowledgable in the bible and what he thinks just to justify that the black peoples have no beginning and no end than saying Mary had sex cmon he’s trying to explain how humans are created by having sex god created Adam without parents kam is not Muslim and know nothing about Islam mutah speaking the Haqq

[@boycott18]

And you're Allah? You know best who is accepted by Allah that you can say someone is not His servant? I guess it's true then that Allah can truly come in person!

[@bahmed6721]

boycott18 luv sorry ur last txt don’t understand god will never come as a person cus god has no beginnings and no end god can’t be human and god at the same time cus humans we are limited and god has no limits can a square be a circle at the same Time no

[@boycott18]

@@bahmed6721 Apparently you don't study the Bible. But have a good evening

[@boycott18]

@@bahmed6721 God says he is the supreme being! When you use the in front of an adverb gives it a definitive meaning. The is the (definite) supreme being, doesn't mean there aren't other beings. You cannot be supreme when you're not in the same category

[@williewatkins9778]

Kam is leaning to his own understanding while Mutah is simply reading the Qur'an, what is in the book. Leaning to your own understanding causes confusion. Kam is on 1960' Islam while today even Minister Farrahkahn understands and uses the Qur'an along with the Bible, Islam is Islam you cannot change it or The Qur'an.

[@josiahx3883]

We cannot call the teaching of the teachings of Nation of Islam 1960 Islam without saying orthodox Islam is 2000 year old Islam.

[@williewatkins9778]

How do you explain any Muslim 5% or not not being familiar with the Quran the way the brother appeared to be while debating what is clearly stated. When i said 1960's because then it was more about seperation and more gang like being that most brothers came to be 5% ers through going to prison and or just the effects of slavery to which we try to find ourselves in this country, our religion etc. If you listen to Farrahkhan he praises Elijah Muhammad yes, but he reads from the Quran because like Malcom X he learned what true Islam is. Personally if I am not 3/5 of a man and am in fact a whole man then how can I be 5% of anything? Listening to Kam's lack of preporation for his own live posting and debated the word of the Qur'an with his own understanding it made it difficult to listen to him .

[@boycott18]

Your misunderstanding of the teachings of The most Honorable Elijah Muhammad is where the problem begins for you. There is no separation from what the most Honorable Elijah Muhammad taught and what The Min mister teaches today. The Minister tells you himself his understanding if these Holy Quran comes from the most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, who taught us Islam and is still teaching us. Everything the Minister teaches on comes out of his study of the teachings and the guidance he received under his teacher the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. There would be NO Farrakhan without Elijah. Just add there was NO Malcolm Without Elijah.

[@williewatkins9778]

@@boycott18 The video and the conversation speaks for itself. No misunderstanding on my part.

[@fredmcdaniels2912]

We who we are now

[@hunabuggy9712]

Poor Guy he’s so confused I don’t know how he came to his conclusions May Allah guide him to the truth May Allah bless Mutah he speaking the facts!

[@xman9697]

That poor guy will be right when it's said and done...You will see

[@TheBlaccGod7]

Good discussion Brothers.

[@joshsanchez6420]

Appreciate the content✌️✌️✌️ WattS up wid it 😀

[@OGKingPimpin]

The well made man was an angel bring the good news

[@rachaelray3291]

Great, brothers, Kam salute

[@mathematical_theology]

Send that brother Brother Boris and myself debunking that Alim Bey assertions.

[@mopetemusic]

I love Kam but the brother Mutah made him look a bit unprepared for this conversation. Mutahs face never changed, no eyebrow raises, no frowns nothing, real polished brother. Kam you may need to revisit the actual book outside of the science and math that you speak of.

[@firebars3182]

Exactly

[@mopetemusic]

@Jeffrey Cobb man I'm proud of the brothers in the nation comrade, I was just speaking on the conversation these 2 brothers had. I would stand next to either one of these dudes but what Mutah was dealing with was " are you a true believer or not.

[@fitawrarifitness6842]

Outside of science and math, there is a lot of confusion.

[@mcm-inc]

Napoleon takes the word of the Quran literally as Christians do with the Bible Kam interprets it from a reality stand point of Science and Math. It's Science vs Mystical or Facts vs Fantasy

[@thevoyceofreazon7043]

The whole conversation is done after saying that Allah is the black man BUT FARAD MUHAMMAD WAS DEFINITELY NOT BLACK AT ALL.

[@thevoyceofreazon7043]

@velCROhash Some hard lyrics and much truth my brother

[@thevoyceofreazon7043]

@velCROhash yes my brother! Keep safe and stay positive 👊🏾

[@fredmcdaniels2912]

Asiatic black man!

[@OGKingPimpin]

Allah is the beginning and the ending

[@CrucialOnDaBeatz]

2 men with different pov’s discussing them with the upmost respect… 🫡 ✊🏾

[@fredmcdaniels2912]

Well made man.

[@OGKingPimpin]

Big facts

[@stephenmorgan4671]

This is what I needed to hear. From early beliefs I’ve been taught the ways of the Christian faith and there are always differences on the belief on the way it’s practiced. The opening statement is not a debate, but only a discussion that is showing power within ones voice👏🏽.

[@MuslimProphetscom]

The principle is this. A Messenger is a Prophet sent with a Scripture. All of the Messengers were Prophets. But not all the Prophets were Messengers. Therefore, when Muhammad said I am the Last Prophet. That statement is actually saying "I am the Last Prophet and Messenger"

[@boycott18]

All messengers were not prophets. Prophets are those who foretold of future events. Messengers were those who fulfilled the foretold prophecy. Therefore not all prophets were messengers. The deal of a prophet means there's would no longer be a need for a foretelling because Allah would be on seen. As he promised Abraham that he would come for his seed. Lastly, Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was sent to the Arabs in the East, not to the west because that part of history hasn't taken place 1400 years ago. Since that time 40 million+ black people had no God or righteousness except the slave making Christianity that was imposed upon them. Who is the messenger to the lost sheep of Israel? Certainly not Muhammad of 1400 years ago! Who is warning black people? Who is asking black people to stop doing wicked things and following wicked people?

[@fredmcdaniels2912]

then

[@fredmcdaniels2912]

And my message to you.

[@fredmcdaniels2912]

And

[@OGKingPimpin]

A much needed conversation

[@erminization]

They [the philosophers who apply logic] draw up a list of the conditions to be fulfilled by demonstration which are known without fail to produce certainty. When, however, they come at length to treat of religious questions, not merely are they unable to satisfy these conditions, but they admit an extreme degree of relaxation. - Al Ghazali

[@fredmcdaniels2912]

Free

[@isiahallgood9554]

Mutah May Allaah reward you and continue to increase you in knowledge & wisdom you used proof & evidence from the book of Allah very well and thorough. Kam May Allah guide you to True Islam what you were speaking about was hislam not Islam . You were playing word play games .

[@comrademazi8539]

😂😂 hislam

[@Adamu724]

Napoleon turned into a Arab mimi me, and what Blackman would name themselves napoleon any way, The Blackman is God, we’re no longer sleep 💤

[@terrencegreenidge9182]

NOI for me I ain’t no Arab nor do I wanna be

[@koolmoe1971]

@@Adamu724 Mutah is speaking facts about Islam and Farrakhan can't even deny that. Kam is not a student or servant of Allah. He is still a baby. Islam is not about those other races being devils and so forth. Kam follows a bastardised version of ISLAM ☪.

[@koolmoe1971]

@@Adamu724 You speaking falsehood homie. Prove that you are a god.... I'll Wait.......

[@Tifelg]

We have never seen any creature on Earth or in space that is "Superior" to man. Allah says He's the Supreme "BEING". Not supreme spirit, but supreme "BEING". ALLAH IS MAN, AND MAN IS ALLAH!

[@koolmoe1971]

Falsehood....

[@propittman]

Peace Tifelg

[@user-kk1vt1wm8b]

No tf its not like that im form saudi arabia born and raised allah is not a man or a women hes the greatest dont put labels thats just stupid

[@lostkittys4446]

I salute the both of y'all. Pac the 🐐 i grew up in Christianity and I've always heard Mary was impregnated by the holy spirit/ghost. Never heard that Mary was touched by a man.

[@MrCbwTV]

Respectful dialogue.

[@FULAN]

My dear brother Kam, you showed a lot of misunderstandings towards Allah's existence which could have been avoided if you learn some basic grammar rules. Allah is described as "He" or "We" out of respect, not because he is a multiple. This is called a "Royal We" in English grammar. As for our brother Napoleon quoting the ayah saying that Muhammad is the seal (last) of the prophets, and you questioning if the ayah talked about messengers as well, a standard rule in Islam is that every messenger is also a prophet, but not every prophet is a messenger. Therefore, by saying that Muhammad is the last of the prophets, it means that he is last of the prophets AND the last of the messengers, by default.

[@amaanmuhammad4075]

FULAN that’s about all brother Napoleon is doing is quoting. When brother Kam goes into the science of things. The root and cause of Allah and Islam. Brother Napoleon has no answer the nation if Islam has divine revelation from Allah. Do not disrespect the Nation of Islam. Allah raised us up. Napoleon goes on live Instagram, lies on our doctrine. Finally confronted with a defense and he doesn’t sound so truthful as he did when he spoke about us to NO DEFENSE. The Nation of Islam stands true.

[@FULAN]

Amaan Muhammad Nation of Islam is false. Islam is not there for you to try and twist and turn it as your mind seems fit. Napoleon is correct in only quoting from the Quran and from the Hadith of the Prophet ﷺ . I would take my religion from a man that only says “Allah says, Muhammad ﷺ Says” any day before I take my religion from a man who only uses his limited knowledge of the word and tries to justify these things through science (especially when he isn’t a scientist).

[@FULAN]

Amaan Muhammad Napoleon already explained that Nation of Islam doesn’t have divine revelation when he quoted this ayah of the Quran because if you have no more prophets and messengers then that means there’s no more revelation.

[@amaanmuhammad4075]

FULAN the holy Quran reaches you that Allah is forever sending messengers. We can demonstrate by way of the Holy Quran that There is aspects of Muhammad that the prophet absolutely did not fulfill. EX: the Holy Quran teaches that Muhammad will teach you what to eat what not to eat and what to store in your homes. The plagues that was revealed through Muhammad, was not fulfilled in the time of Muhammad because 1400 years ago was NOT the end of the devils reign. Brother Kam stopped him and said wait does that scripture say messengers or prophets? Napoleon tried to pass it off as messengers and prophets simply to try to disqualify our position of Elijah Muhammad as messenger. It also teaches that this prophesied Muhammad will teach of the BOOK AND THE WISDOM. Wait you people try to say the Quran which is THE BOOK needs no interpretation. Why does Allah make a distinction between the wisdom and the book? The wisdom of the book is to be revealed by the Muhammad, Imam MAHDI or the self guided one. Who comes in the end. Also HOLY QURAN further states THE GOSPEL AND THE TORAH. The holy prophet Muhammad of Arabia was not the end all be all. If he was THIS WOULD BE THE HEREAFER TODAY. But it’s NOT it’s the day OF JUDGEMENT! Go look at minister farrakhans world friendship tour it’s on KZbin. The Bonna sheik the sheik of sheiks gave him his staff and Cloke. Minister Farrakhan is respected the Nation of Islam is respected all over the world. Ironically the Muslims that Napoleon takes orders from has already submitted to this small Nation of Islam in the West. Allah has condemned the Muslim world for bowing down to the wicked foreign policy’s of America. Having gay parades in the holy land. Muslims killing Muslims and Christians unjustly and you want to come at us? When we do not carry weapons we fight with those WHO FIGHT WITH US. As Allah teaches us to. We are a peaceful people and we restore broken homes and families. You people are OUT RIGHT HYPOCRITES to condemn us we were raised up by God which is why none of you can defeat our arguments!

[@alishabazz7431]

You said Allah is referred to as “he and We” out of respect? Wait a minute.. The Qur’an is Allah’s direct Word not a prophet saying so and so. It’s not second or third person. Sorry but that’s completely false.

[@fidelnwaka9701]

Respect to both brothers. Good discussion. But I have to say, as a casual listener (and a Muslim),, I feel Bro Kam's 'argument' and interpretation of the Quran was more convincing.

[@williamskeene6818]

This is why the noi doesn't debate.. because they get there asses handed to them every time. Noi is not a religion its an ideology.

[@godflint]

Nonsense. The NOI doesn't debate because the NOI is based on the science of life and how the physical world works and operates while religion is based on nonsensical arguments that defy science, reality and logic that could never be proven or at the very least logically deduced.

[@carloschambliss1752]

I listen with an enlightened mind because the HIGHEST CONSCIOUSNESS will always be made BOTH need it be a point TO BE MADE. *It gave me connection of ISA (Yauashua aka Jesus) in the scope of Islam perspective. Because Kam and Mutah are from brother sects who have different fundamental approaches to resistence......So ISAAC is on the inside looking out trying to connect on a higher consciousness to relate.

[@alissiakelly]

Brother Kam I Juss Watched This Video..And wanted to Share my Study PROOF on Master Fard Muhammad w/ Our Brother Mutah... I Thank Allah for Presenting Himself in a Physical in Master Fard Muhammad..

[@OGKingPimpin]

There are several verses were Allah says he is not a man

[@hanihht]

Go to the teachings of Quran and the authentic Hadith. You will find the truth inshallah.

[@boycott18]

Why should anyone follow Hadith? I've read the Holy Quran and it doesn't mention Hadith, so why follow it?

[@dollaphat7338]

Binge watching all your videos.

[@OGKingPimpin]

Never take his words over the prophet muhammad

[@OGKingPimpin]

There are clear verses that explain the non clear verses

[@mich4kt]

Prophet Muhammad also said 3 generations after me will no longer be of me.

[@truthbetold89]

Where did you get that from? Reference

[@mich4kt]

@@truthbetold89 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rabQp355Z76rsK8

[@truthbetold89]

,@@mich4kt you are confusing the real Islam which was founded in the seventh century on the Arabian Peninsula by the Prophet Muhammad. "The Nation of Islam" on the other hand was founded in Detroit in 1930 by Wallace Fard. Advocating black empowerment by drawing upon the Quran and the Bible.

[@latimes2310]

@@truthbetold89 Not true at all !!!! The Nation of Islam was around since the beginning of time 💯💯💯 The universe itself is Islam ☪ The Black man is the original man of this planet and so therefore Allah is the Black man when he's incarnated in human flesh. We originally come from 13 tribes, 50,000 years ago the Black tribe of Shabazz fell asleep and that's why the world is how It is today. Prophet Muhammad Prophet Moses Prophet Jesus And any of the other great prophet's that walked this planet,have all been sent by the Most High. So whether you call it Islam or Nation of Islam,we all must bear witness to the truth.

[@truthbetold89]

@@latimes2310 I advise you to learn about Islam by reading the Quran because Islam and The Nation of Islam are definitely not the same. According to the real Islam believe, is that All humans are descended from Adam and Eve,” said prophet Muhammad peace be upon him in his last known speech. “There is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab, or of a non-Arab over an Arab, and no superiority of a white person over a black person or of a black person over a white person, except on the basis of personal piety and righteousness.” saying that Allah is a black man just shows that the nation of Islam has nothing to do with Islam. Allah the all mighty is not a man nor does he resemble any man.

[@StokelyTure]

Kam got him

[@fotelsteussentiments1608]

Nation of Islam doctrine is kinda like a mixture of Islam, Christianity, Judaism, and racial stuff. So that's not Islam whatsoever. I think NOI believers should touch up on this subject with African Muslims who been in the faith for more than 13 centuries, not just one century.

[@OGKingPimpin]

So basically kam you don't believe in Islam...the way the prophet muhammad and his companions did

[@raymondsoto6754]

lol she's the virgin mary kam. the translation i read goes...angel said, I bring you glad tidings from your lord that you shall bare a child. mary says how can i bare a child when no man has touched me, as in wow im going to have a child as a virgin..? the angel basically says yes indeed. because all your lord has to do is say be, and it is. its easy for the creator to do. may peace be upon the virgin mary. amen

[@boycott18]

The Holy Quran also says, we sent Mary our spirit in the form of a well made man. That man was Joseph. It is written in the genealogy of Jesus in Matthew chapter 1 Joseph is there direct descendant of Abraham. This is why Jesus says In revelation(22:16) I am the root and offspring of David. We're taught to be students of all scriptures because you just might miss something.

[@fredmcdaniels2912]

Well made man!

[@nolanrimson6656]

What ever makes you brothers better men.Faith is faith brothers.

[@marthafoy3776]

40. Muhammad (صلي الله عليه و سلم) is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the last (end) of the Prophets. And Allah is Ever All-Aware of everything. (Noble Qur'an Translation, 33:40) (V. 2:252) The Prophet Muhammad (صلي الله عليه و سلم) said: "Every Prophet used to be sent to his nation only, but I have been sent to all mankind." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol. 1, Hadith No. 331).

[@boycott18]

The second verse isn't in there Holy Quran.

[@south7844]

Kam is the truth. He is a great follower and a believer, but he's not a bigot. He's not afraid to be questioning and thinking! We need more human beings like that in this time...Watts Up! Much love from London

[@xman9697]

Agreed

[@bosnianmenace2286]

May Allah bless Brother mutah a make us free from te believe of the nation of islam may Allah protect us from that kind of believe may Allah send us all to the path of following the real teaching of the messanger Muhammed may peace and blessing be upon him and not to fall in this kind of shirk amin!

[@OGKingPimpin]

Yes the hadiths were preserved by the same folk who preserved the quran

[@yusufmusa316]

The brother with the beard is up on his deen,Alhumdulillah.

[@markmansour85]

Kam got me here, especially regarding Maryam al adra and the immaculate conception topic.. I’m an Arab Christian and agree with the Quran and what Mutah is translating regarding this issue.. another important point is that Jesus in the Quran is usually referred to as Issa bin Maryam (Jesus son of Mary) usually in Arabic, your the son/daughter of your father! Further proof that Jesus Christ had no earthly/ biological father

[@CarlosC-lv1gm]

ISLAM sorts out ISLAM AFFAIRS…….I’m NO REFEREE or MEDIATOR.

[@CarlosC-lv1gm]

Just like this discussion was between two brothers of same OLIVE BRANCH, straightening out their DOCTRINE DIFFERENCES. I was listening for the MEAT (Knowledge) and throw away the BONES (Personal opinions) because Wisdom & Knowledge has NO BOUNDARIES.

[@fredmcdaniels2912]

Praise be to Allah, praise be to Allah and thank Allah peace!

[@earlmuhammad2261]

Asa..I love this black man beautiful job

[@LMarieCarson]

Interesting chat. You can imagine how their different perspectives actually can help preserve needed points pertaining to the intended revelation of Allah to mankind. I.e. that Allah is in and of all things, while also, among all things Allah has manifested growth among differentiated roles at various times. Another note, if you were to try on Kam’s interpretation of Mary’s pregnancy, while also validating the scriptures portraying it as distinctly set aside as something prior to conception - you could say that what occurs is that Allah works to call people into roles within the timing of a system - set apart ahead of time, then nurtures them within those influences to be something spiritually set apart & also physically of that genetic role. Which would make sense with how scripture tends to suggest that various ones, before they have done anything within physical existence, are set within various roles in or out of the residing system to affect its holistic change unto Allahs work.

[@fredmcdaniels2912]

Peace

[@Adamu724]

That’s a trick of the Arab, the mathematical language concept went right over his head, lol

[@koolmoe1971]

No tricks. There were black men who fought beside Prophet Muhammad ( Sahlli Lahu Alayhi Wa Salaam ). The Brother Kam can't get past the NOI falsehoods taught in the past. The very verses of the Qur'an are written with mathematical models and designs.

[@latimes2310]

@@koolmoe1971 So what books did the prophets read before The Holy Qur'an ? In the bible it tells you about the lost sheep of Abraham... That will be lost for 400 years in a foreign land.... That's the Black family in America.... It said the messiah had wool hair and feet like burning brass, That's the physical attributes of the Black man... The Black man is the original man on this planet.... Islam isn't a religion, it's a way of life 💯💯💯

[@3litepker]

@@latimes2310 if the nation of black were so important then Allah would’ve mentioned it. But he didn’t because Black is just as equal as any other race in terms of respect. Simple as. There’s nothing special about black people as there isn’t white or Asian.

[@zg4675]

Murth is stuck . He said that Allah is not a he but he referred that Allah (he ) is above on his throne .

[@humpworm]

Mutah 1 / Kam 0.... Until the next phone call. Much love Brothers...

[@herk0676]

U dont know shit

[@rpsibley73]

We will never how we were created what I've been thinking is we come from Earth that's all I know

[@idrisassad9500]

Both points are mute based on the ayat that is being used. Among the clear ayats that need no interpretation are the ayats that clearly state that this is قرأن عربي غير ذي عوج An ARABIC QUR'AN that is not crooked! Therefore you cannot arrive at an argument with use of translation. The words in each language are governed by their origin. Words in Arabic have an origin that govern their meaning. In order to arrive at what is meant by the clear ayats you must use ARABIC. After the arrival at what is clear in the original language can you proceed in expounding.

[@boycott18]

What is clear to who? Spo you're saying a true understanding of the Holy Qur'an cannot be reached unless you read Arabic correct? Then how did Elijah Muhammad raise up a Nation in the midst of a great beast with only a 3rd grade English education? That you for clearly showing how ge was taught by the Mahdi the Holy Quran and is wisdom, along with the Torah and Gospel.

[@OGKingPimpin]

This language can lead to polytheism though

[@onlytruth1284]

Yahweh says we were made in his image and if you read the definition of image its external!!!...remeber that. Because that means a lot.

[@FULAN]

You said that the black man has no origin, however Adam was the first human to be created and he was created from water, mud, clay. Black people have a beginning and an ending. They began as a human and they will end when they die before the day of judgement.

[@rocharan2117]

There has never been nor will there ever be a time when the Black man and woman did not or does not exist on the Earth. Even white scientists' studies verified this and had to agree. He did not say that the Blackman does not have an origin, he said the black people have no beginning nor an ending. Meaning ALL hues of hu-man beings came from the essence of Black people. Accept it or let it alone

[@fredmcdaniels2912]

Ancient thow no time

[@columbusohio72]

Hes right about different noi ministers interpreting things different

[@OGKingPimpin]

A man dies and will be judged by god

[@hunabuggy9712]

The more I watch the more angry this guy is making me He is not Muslim He’s brining falsehood into truth Subhanallah he said Allah is a man Astafrullah! He is so dum and he’s confusing the people Allah is the one and only the first and last He never begets nor was He begotten Allah says be and it is A man eats, shits, hurts, feels pain has emotions Allah is free from Need He created man jinn and angles Allah is above the Heavens and the Earth We are His slaves Allah is the Most Powerful why would He come down to our level Ya Allah why do I need to tell a so called Muslim this This guy is causing confusion and corruption

[@fredmcdaniels2912]

Lord of the worlds!

[@OGKingPimpin]

The things kam are saying are definitely not in the Quran

[@fredmcdaniels2912]

All this is

[@yusufmusa316]

The nation of island guy joins partners with Allah,and Allah does not reside in any of His creation,whenever Allah wants to create something He simply says to it"BE"and it is.Allah does not have to be apart of His creation for His creation to exist.and the Quran tells us that the prophet Muhammad was the seal of the prophets,meaning after him there would be no more prophets.the word nabi is an Arabic word which means prophet and the word rasul is an Arabic word which mean messenger,but both of these words carry a powerful meaning in the Arabic language and Elijah doesn't fit either word.

[@fredmcdaniels2912]

We muslim chest cavities, cry herring this history A+ kam A + napoleon peace!

[@jonathanleader2009]

I don't understand how kam says he is Muslim and Jewish

[@mastergreen8492]

Daaang, Napoleon was bout to Go All In I Think👀 All of a Sudden Technical difficulties 🤪

[@OGKingPimpin]

Said all that

[@StokelyTure]

Kam always looking for a debate

[@babacoolio]

I really didn't know how far NOI went with even denial of the Quran. How ignorant would it be to question the Word of our God of being complicated. It wouldn't be just ignorant. It's straight up blasphemous.

[@fredmcdaniels2912]

Learn

[@quickhands6347]

@@fredmcdaniels2912 Learn what he say that Arabic is the language of God but dosen't know it

[@LiveReality19]

Make one reference point, to back up what you just spewed

[@xman9697]

You are a DEVIL anyway

[@firstname1831]

@@LiveReality19Dude whole argument was based on assumptions

[@alissiakelly]

Allah in The Holy Quran sent messengers, Divine Teachers, Leaders..

[@leadgenerator4392]

The Message to The Blackman in America by The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad would have ended this dialogue in 10mins.

[@latimes2310]

Super Facts !!!!!

[@firstname1831]

Why would that be needed when the Quran is right there

[@leadgenerator4392]

The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad give more details

[@LiveReality19]

The only people speaking in favor of Mutah are biased Sunni Muslims. Saying “he read the Quran” ok and doesn’t understand what the hell he’s reading. Kam spoke into the depths of the Quran. Mutah messed up when he said Elijah Muhammad’s name isn’t in the Quran. Kam said well the Quran teaches that some messengers are mentioned by name and others aren’t so we can’t say he’s untrue because “his name isn’t in the Quran”. So who’s really coming from the Quran?

[@mrjcanada5843]

Hit him with how Arab Muslims in the Middle East enslaved more Africans than anyone else...My point is.. So there are differences between The Nation of Islam and traditional Islam..But that doesn't make the Nation less Muslim because of different beliefs. The creator comes in many forms.

[@SalahSaMoorISufi]

🤔 This "Royal We"....I may need to go more in-depth on this subject. 😏 💯🕋⭐🌙

[@raymondsoto6754]

WE is just a majestic way or royal way of speaking, and how he refers to himself at times

[@boycott18]

Why? The Holy Quran isn't flawed. Allah expresses himself clearly. There more you submit to his will the more it reveals to you.

[@OGKingPimpin]

Big facts....Adam didn't pray to himself

[@fredmcdaniels2912]

Some what because him

[@JamesSims-ki2po]

This is James

[@OGKingPimpin]

Be and it is