KAMEME PROVES SORA IS A BROKEN TOP TIER

[@100organicfreshmemes5]

I didn't buy people saying Sora was only mid tier or so early on. Between his insane combo potential and a recovery that gives Pikachu a run for his money he's gotta be at least high tier. Feels like people just underestimate him because his floaty physics take some getting used to.

[@BannedfromOUin5secs]

Saying sora is high tier cuz of kamame is like saying cloud is top 10 cuz of sparg0 Sora still mid

[@ManusMeridiem]

​@@BannedfromOUin5secsBy that logic, Joker is mid....

[@dogyX3]

@@BannedfromOUin5secs But cloud is top tier. His recovery is the only thing bad about him, and its not even that bad.

[@lobstercrostini]

​@@dogyX3 I love that cloud gets bodied by cargo throw

[@DrunkPanda239]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@lobstercrostini Tbf it’s one heavy and cargo can cheese quite few high and top tiers also. Having some bad matchups to low and mid tiers doesn’t mean a character can’t be top tier.

[@DarkAura19]

All the respect in the world to Maister and Dabuz but holy hell did they do Sora NO favors for the first year of his existence. Kameme gets it. Sora isn't a pocket pick, he's a pick you want a pocket for, the other way around. He's damn good, definitely has a pretty hard time with super hard rushdown like Fox and super hard zoners like Samus, but still a damn good character, even if some may (understandably) find him annoying.

[@splish_2]

honeslty samus is pretty close to even, she's might be one of the easiest characters to combo/juggle outside of super heavies. Other than town and city/kalos, it's pretty even/winning if you know the mu well. I'm pretty sure Kameme thinks its winning or even for sora but my region has a shit ton of samus and knowing the mu doesn't make it nearly that difficult.

[@demiclick]

i remember in an mkleo video he said something about having sora practice because of fighting maister, and i was thinking "no... thats not real sora practice" sora isnt a secondary character, you either commit with him or you dont, and maister just doesnt get sora because he secondaries him

[@DarkAura19]

@Clickity Yeah on Tweek's recent Podcast he mentioned that, and then said that it definitely WASN'T practice when it came to Kameme lol

[@h2dfives799]

Soras counter really should reflect and not deflect, it even does in kingdom hearts so it makes no sense that it doesn't in smash and soras low ground speed plus air drift make fighting zoners a major pain

[@Kizunoto]

3:55 The idj’s are crazy, It took me like 3 days to chain 2 nairs like that…

[@yourheroes5874]

Leo in Tweek’s podcast stated that he treated Kameme’s Sora similar to Maister’s which that backfired horrendously

[@SuperHalo-rn4rr]

The interesting thing about that is, that's not even the first time that's happened for Kameme. I remember around the pre-Genensis events, Lui$ had a match with Kameme. In an interview before-hand he stated that he was pretty confident in taking on Kameme due to his experience training with Kurama's Sora. It definitely didn't work out as expected lol.

[@alexneuman600]

Please, no johns.

[@nathanlevesque7812]

@@alexneuman600 explaining his error is not an excuse for losing

[@JMPhotography01]

Nah he just proved everyone else wrong. I already knew Sora is broken lol

[@SamuelJohnsonYT]

Lol Sora ain't broken dude he dies to early because he is a lightweight he's either High or Mid Tier in my opinion

[@degeleagel420]

You just might be ass at the game buddy@@SamuelJohnsonYT

[@OpinionatedGamer]

I wonder if top players are going to start discovering really good counter play to sora soon. I have no idea what his weaknesses are but I've never played against a good one so that's probably why.

[@yanyan5362]

Depends on your character, but his worst spot is above you as with all floaties, and the ledge. The ledge because he can’t double jump out of the corner and he’s slow on the ground. That’s why zoners do really well against him, and moves like t-jolt, and g&w chef can just lock him on ledge

[@limitlesshoka5418]

3:56 he could’ve done another nair after that fair and then nair onto the play then either up smash or up B

[@charlyy1337]

It’s hilarious how bad dabuz and maister are at sora compared to kameme, they made sora look low tier 😂

[@killerooster]

Sora on fd just feels like sword kazuya sometimes.

[@Alejandro333777]

25:00 I swear I was watching it surprised he turned it around

[@AsaLothario]

The first thing I said when Sora came out is that he need to be Peanut(Little Mac God)'s secondary, but I'm just some nobody. I still believe it to this day.

[@itslovo]

id love for you to go over the muteace vs tg (a banjo player) it was a very good set!

[@SuperHalo-rn4rr]

A week or so ago I was checking Gluto's stream and I was pretty surprised to see him training with a Sora main in the EU. His chat was flabbergasted by the combos the Sora was showing off too. Overall, I'm glad Gluto's able to prepare himself incase he ever gets in that situation again. I'm glad to see everyone finally taking Sora seriously. 😄

[@AquaAmazake]

i really want to practice sora and kirby and luigi. does anyone recommnend where to find or what controls to use that KAMEME uses? please any help for locals.

[@flyingtree12]

Please do a Crown 3 watch party tonight

[@jaydenhohman2590]

That would be epic

[@imESAM]

i dont really do watch parties

[@igotthemunchies7292]

I remember I fought this Sora for a hour on elite smash and I only won 2 games smh

[@Myztyrio]

You mean Kameme’s Sora? Bruh, bringing him to last stock EVER, is a huge accomplishment. Kameme easily top 5 potential play

[@simonscheucher5984]

I NEED MORE VIDS FROM YOU!!! I LOVE YOUR VIDS SO HARDLY I AM WATCHING LIKE HALF OF MY TIME ONLY WATCHING YOU

[@janswhatsupdoc]

2:42 his name is always pronounced as the former, every time I hear peeps say the latter I lose brain cells

[@jankounchained4211]

I’ve been trying to tell everyone, but nobody listened :(

[@JMPhotography01]

Sora does not play like a Smash character. He plays a game of his own. That's why he is busted. You cant just out neutral him grounded he just avoids all that.

[@TheStoicMan104]

sora been crazy since day 1. i knew it!

[@-rupiedie-4962]

where is the leo joker

[@raptorg6088]

Reverse 3-0’ing Sparg0 at Crown 3 that’s where

[@BannedfromOUin5secs]

@@raptorg6088 and getting 3-0’d by jackal afterwards

[@Sancnea]

​​@@BannedfromOUin5secshat was not the Joker. Better example would be the Joker's performance at the last Summit but I guess that happened before Crown 3.

[@riceballsmashpokemongamere1705]

Sora, busted! Also first, hi ESAM!

[@caseyalbright2762]

I been playing sora exclusively since his launch. He is busted. Although i will say he benefits immensely from in person play. Online he is mid tier.

[@g.0.dxdestruct10n5]

so your saying Neo corrin is top tier

[@LukeBerserker]

From the initial release, I've said Sore is Top of High Tier similar to Byleth imo. Good enough to do great in the meta but not broken. Kameme and Leo are just pushing their characters to beyond the LIMIT

[@nathanlevesque7812]

top of high tier would mean they are broken

[@misantrope6267]

no. being the best/worst doesn't automatically make a character "broken" in any game. Ultimate is super balanced considering the huge roster. I think the only characters up for the "broken" debate are steve and ganon@@nathanlevesque7812

[@isayahjenkins8922]

How does sora do in the meta

[@janswhatsupdoc]

If your name ain’t kameme not very good

[@DarkAura19]

He has a pretty good match-up against Steve, though maybe not to the extent of other characters with swords. What helps Sora in particular is that one bad minecart or anvil into Sora's counter can cost him a stock VERY early thanks to how Sora's counter stuns. Plus having a disjoint helps. Sora also does very well against Kazuya, since he can simultaneously zone him out, outspace him with his disjoint and combo Kazuya hella easily, plus being floaty makes it a bit harder for Kazuya to combo him. Granted, it's still Kazuya and he can melt any character if he gets the chance, so it's never a hard win. Sora doesn't do very good against Aigis since they can kinda smother him, but it's doable. Sora is actually a pretty decent answer to Sonic as well, he's excellent at interrupting Sonic's flow wether he's being campy or not. Fox is Sora's worst match-up by a country mile. Just about the only place Fox can't absolutely decimate Sora is off-stage, but in every other moment Fox can just never give Sora a single moment to breath, it's VERY rough. Does good against ROB, Roy is pretty tough for him, Cloud is also hard, Diddy is second only to Fox to being Sora's worst MU, Pika is probably only a slight lose if not even tbh, Palu and Wolf slightly win, Min Min wins, G&W is about even, etc Basically Sora does quite well against the two biggest "problem" characters in the Meta right now and has a decent MU spread otherwise, but hard rushdown shuts him down pretty badly, as well as some of the hard zoners.

[@bond3161]

Please stop saying Jesus Christ or omg Has nothing to do with either just as I wouldn't use your mom's name in place.

[@imESAM]

nah

[@dtp2630]

Sora’s still mid tier unfortunately

[@KyngMK]

before i flame yo ass please for the love of god tell me your joking

[@tbandz9423]

No he isn't mid he's top tier