ITS SO DEEP!!! | The Undertale Iceberg Explained - A Deep Dive Reaction

[@keyblaed]

oh also toby referenced the SANS (steven after not surviving) thing in a spamton sweepstakes event, as ‘spamton after not surviving’

[@leritykay8911]

Also Matpat made a whole video (fnaf related) about giving proper credit, with the topic of Help Wanted official art using fanmade assets, and just talks about how now he credits every asset

[@loogis2913]

Just fyi as for the ‘beef’ between matpat and Toby fox, there isn’t really any anymore. When Toby called him out Matpat started leaving links to the games they play from then on, and as of recent, Toby and Matpat have interacted after Matpat announced his retirement. Look at Game theories most recent deltarune theory for this btw

[@imjustsomebunny]

Back then, people (especially in the UTDR fandom) really hated him, huh? Now I bet some of those same people are going "OMG MATPAT, YOU WERE ALWAYS MY HERO. WE'LL MISS YOU 🥺"

[@JaydenCollins196]

"and as of recently" 😥

[@GuilherminoPlays]

1:11:50 Since the previous year, Toby Fox has been releasing Newsletters through the year, sometimes this Newsletters comes with a comic, so we could say that now we finally have official comics. (I guess)

[@UnderTheUmbrella_]

Honestly I recommend you watch the "What I Got Wrong" video before the next iceberg and the "What Chapter 2 Changed" video after it. Both go into correcting errors made in the two videos.

[@ketsutara2854]

i think he loved the greenscreen

[@alpha_0277]

The song at 1:20:47 is *absolutely* a deltarune track. I don't know wich one and my brain auto completed the melody in my head so i know i heard this

[@mariotheundying]

I have a completed melody too but I think it was from a fanwork, or something not undertale related Edit: well, theres this: "Undertale Ballchime - Mystery", very similar to the melody I had in mind so I prob heard this somwhere, and yes it's by toby apparently for a game named "ItemHaver", and the song was found in an old website where toby posted WIPs Edit 2: "Item Haver Music - Mystery" that's the one, not putting links in case youtube deletes it, even if it's on yt

[@correia05]

I think it’s from attack of the killer queen but idk it remind me of this song

[@45hAsh]

Yes! I thought so too! ​@@correia05

[@45hAsh]

​@@correia05it is, right before the song loops

[@CabooseGMS]

attack of killer queen

[@RedLordOfAlagadda]

I find it funny how Toby made one post saying he thought Matpat did one slightly not great thing, and the fella making the iceberg video decided to make hating Matpat half of his personality.

[@darkm007]

Yea he was kind of a little ass about it all.

[@RaiyanReetom]

@@darkm007 He probably just dislikes Mattpat.

[@Bleats_Sinodai]

28:05 also, Papyrus is the only enemy that doesn't move around, and if you ever pay attention, when enemies move more, their attacks get faster/stronger. And it's not that Papyrus can't move in a fight, because he moves all over in the Date fight. So, it's theorized that Papyrus is actually the strongest monster in the underground, as well as the one with the most precise control over his power, constantly holding back to not delete you immediately, and that the real reason why Undyne didn't want to train him to be a royal guard is because she fears what he might become if she did.

[@ssomenerdd]

(he is also one of the only characters in the game to get Tired from fighting you on both Neutral and pacifist + if the whole "Papyrus dosen't move" thing was correct, it would mean people like Whimsum, So sorry, or shyren actually try to kill you which is just objectively wrong (shyren's movement also dosen't get any faster when you make her attacks stronger so there's that))

[@Shuraiki]

he already watched that theory

[@ccfffvbbbbbffg1774]

1:05:00, The main one I know is 'Dweller's Empty Path'. I don't really know much about it apart from that its an Undertale-type rpgmaker game with no real story mainly developed by Temmie Chang. I only know it because one of my favourite artists of all time, Camellia/Cametek worked on the soundtrack along with Toby and Temmie. Despite that, though, the ost isn't anything crazy, which sucks because Camellia and Toby's other crossovers all go hard as hell (Myths You Forgot, a Camellia track featuring Toby, and a handful of remixes of Undertale and Deltarune tracks in Camellia's style). I don't know whether the game's good or not though. Edit: Just looked it up and Dweller's Empty Path is actually an 'indirect sequel' to a game called Escaped Chasm, also by Temmie and also composed by Toby.

[@AmaiarAiramand]

I'm at "that specific point on this video" and while I don't remember everything Toby's worked on himself, I do remember the most notorious like the Halloween Earthbound HackROM, a few songs he made for the Pokemon franchise (namely, Sword/Shield and Scarlet/Violet) and the heavy influence he had on Homestuck. And while Homestuck is not a game per se (it's more like a web comic), it does have official games like Hiveswap. But the whole Homestuck rabbit hole is another story, and it is LONG as fuck. I do recommend checking it out if you're interested, since the influence Homestuck had in Undertale and viceversa are very clear, but be warned it's a ton of content that would take a while to cover entirely.

[@luisa9102]

There's a sequel to this iceberg by the same channel, that's also pretty interesting. It's pretty long, and it has a lot of dated theories that were proven wrong by chapter 2 of Deltarune, but i still find it worth watching.

[@rangedweevil6150]

They also did a video to cover what they got wrong after chapter 2 came out

[@UnderTheUmbrella_]

If you're looking for a good video about the "beef" Toby had with MatPat, Goose Boose on youtube has a good video on it. A lot of the situation was blown out of proportion by the fandom if I'm being honest.

[@vic2006]

1:06:30 The tree of the ruins DOES have a meaning. It's supposed to represent Toriel, and how every human that has fallen into the Underground she tried to protect it and failed, just like she did with Asriel. She tries to be a good mother, but all of the children she either has (Asriel) or adopts (the human souls) end up dying in some way. The tree is literaly Toriel's character resumed in a sentence.

[@shradibop]

for your request for other games toby's worked on, while he's only composed one song for it, the game OMORI is excellent and i think you'd like it

[@45hAsh]

I think the "ball" audio was later reused in deltarune's "attack of the killer queen"

[@penntopaper9305]

1:03:49 OMG!! cucumber quest! you should totally read it you would 100% love it. its a comic, not a game, but it has very similar vibes to undertale. though, as of now, its on indefinite hiatus so we dont really know when its gonna be finished per say. you could do a reading reaction instead of playing it or something, tho i cant imagine itlll get a huge number of views. youd totally get all the cucumber quest fans tho, since its a fandom with not much content (also, i do think youll particularly love noisemaster. hes a fantastic character)

[@disgustingsmell1970]

Gigi, the creator of cucumber quest is also a character design and concept artist for deltarune! She also helps make other art too. She recently released a visual novel game which has music from Toby in the soundtrack too!

[@penntopaper9305]

@@disgustingsmell1970 yeah! i actually was deep into the whole cucumber quest connecting with toby fox stuff about a year or so before deltarune came out. somethgin thats funny is that, despite me having been an undertale superfan, i actually found cc seperately through the actual physical copies of the books that were in my schools library. only figured out after the fact through searching for fan content of it that it was connected in that way. fun stuff

[@theguitarassassin6639]

i’m glad i’m not the only one who thinks that toby’s cucumber quest theme is a BOP

[@Envix1]

'ITS SO DEEP' 💀

[@Buff_lancer]

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[@Buff_lancer]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@Buff_lancer]

Clip it.

[@Avysilvasan]

ayo

[@Avysilvasan]

oya

[@evan9811]

Calling an image of Sans “demonic” is crazy😭

[@TentisSH]

You should watch "The Choice" it has all undertale boss battles animated and its really well done. 30 minutes and perfect for a reaction video.

[@charlotteturner8349]

1:20:45 i think the ball sound sounds really similar to a part in Attack Of The Killer Queen so that might be why it sounds familiar

[@thelnr2]

Toby worked on a web comic called Homestuck if you wanted to read it. It's a very long web comic and it's definitely not for a lot of people. Just if you were interested in more of Toby's work.

[@disgustingsmell1970]

I'm pretty sure Toby helped make music for parts of Homestuck - I don't think he wrote/drew it like he did for undertale, seeing as most people just knew him by the Fwuradiation moniker for his earthbound game + the music

[@thelnr2]

no he didn't write or draw for homestuck he did just make the music. However the humour is very similar to Tobys and Temmie did do art for the very final animation.@@disgustingsmell1970

[@joshuabowman4702]

YOOOOOOOOOO!!!! I’m so up for you getting the undertale art book and reading it. It’s probably not in your style to do a review but a video of just random about the book would be very nice.

[@keyblaed]

at the part ur talking ab at around 1:05:00, that song u listened to is noisemaster’s theme from cucumber quest. a webcomic by gigi dg, a friend of toby. recently, they collabed on the soundtrack of soul of sovereignty, gigi’s new visual novel game. i enjoyed it, story was good and of course the soundtrack was good. if ur into visual novels id say check it out, its like 2 hours long

[@bigshotrobi]

love how immersed you got into the utdr universe, been into the fandom since 2020 and i probably will be the rest of my life, props!

[@kirisakicatsune9983]

I've never been this early to a vid... I already know everything about Undertale and deltarune but it's fun to watch you react and learn more about it

[@shradibop]

"it's revealed that ralsei is actually asriel" uhh yeah sure

[@imjustsomebunny]

It's okay, immediately after chapter 2, people were like "OMG KRIS IS THE KNIGHT 😱😱😱" which is a statement that I'm sure is totally true and won't end up being disproven later considering that not even half of the game has been released yet. 😅

[@toxicrepeter8607]

@@imjustsomebunnyActually many have debunked that already, I mean Kris literally battles people who've already met this "Roaring Knight". Kris couldn't have created the cyber world dark fountain either since at the end of chapter 2 we learn that Noelle and Berdly had already started studying when it was created and from when we last see them at school we were always in control of Kris. Its also hinted by the closet's flavor text that someone was hiding in the closet at that time.

[@imjustsomebunny]

@@toxicrepeter8607 Sorry, I was being sarcastic. I wasn't trying to insinuate that I actually believed in the "Kris is the Knight" theory. 😅

[@toxicrepeter8607]

@@imjustsomebunny I know lol, I just wanted to point out that we don't need to wait for the rest of the game to release like you stated, its already disproven.

[@imjustsomebunny]

@toxicrepeter8607 You might think. But there are still people advocating for the Kris Knight theory despite how little evidence there is backing it up. It's all just circumstantial "well, they could have done this, or set this up ahead of time" and none of it really feels believable, and most of it contradicts what we already know. Like, some of these people want me to believe that this random teenager ripped us out of their chest, staggered to the library in the middle of the night to create the Cyber dark world, and then came home and ate an entire pie before going back to bed? And somehow Berdly and Noelle were able to do any studying there without just immediately falling in when it's established at the end of chapter 2 that darkness immediately subsumes an area when you open a fountain? And apparently at some point between chapters 1 and 2, Kris plugs in the TV as some part of their 4D chess move because they... just already know it's going to be relevant in the next Dark World? Or maybe Susie plugged it in to watch TV lol.

[@Xisareallygoodletter]

1:20:48 I instantly thought of that one "flute" sound from that one game. My brain is saying it's Mario cuz of the old Mario's Madness having the Flute and it makes a sound similar.

[@Mrkraken303]

Yup. Another banger reaction king.

[@Kenzie-Soup.n.Squash]

47:05 HEARTBOUND RAAHHH I love pirate software he’s so fucking awesome

[@correia05]

1:20:49 the start kind of remind me of attack of the killer queen

[@PlutoIsntReal_]

Another fun fact is that the door at the very end of town in Deltarune plays the Gaster theme slowed down by 666%. Literally. Is Gaster Satan or something?

[@notcreator02]

1:05:37 i dont know if this is what you meant but he did compose a song for omori which is a pretty popular indie game, dont remember what the song was actually called though

[@charrii-san7403]

My dad actually noticed the serial murderer anagram whenhe watched me play his fight and his name showed up on screen, he pretty much banned me from it 💀 Also on behalf of FNAF books the game story is so in depth and independent that Scott prolly didn't want to throw off the canonicity by making a seperate story in the same universe accessible to people in the meantime while waiting for another game by putting them both in the same form of media(which would lead poeple to believe it's related). That, and games are just harder to make, So I think the FNAF books are ideas he had that he wants to write while giving the fans something to chew on while we wait for a new game which is part of the bigger story.

[@stolentoast19]

I paused the video to search up the noisemaster's theme it goes so hard bro.

[@TentisSH]

1:03:05 you can hear gaster's theme in the background of the song if u listen closely.

[@alpha_0277]

nah bro it's just "Luigi's Mansion [Remix] by qumu" at 0:18 seconds of the remix

[@SeasonedFries]

There is a sequel for this that goes even deeper might be worth checking out

[@shradibop]

uhh the creator of this video definitely hates matpat for whatever reason but the general fanbase opinion is that matpat's alright.

[@shradibop]

also COOK with your fnaf book opinions they're so aggressively hit or miss

[@mikolmauZ]

1:21:24 isn't that melody from berdly's song? It sounds slightly different tho

[@kirinkirin2]

Anyone else thinks that the end of noisemaster's theme sounds a lot like lancer's theme?

[@lott_hf134]

I recommend a channel called TheSoph, she makes a lot of videos related to deltarune and undertale.

[@devlinmcguire7543]

That's what she said

[@45hAsh]

1:22:40 never knew about this, but it looks beautiful

[@hichammessaoudi7372]

I swear I felt something weird about it

[@RaiyanReetom]

I thought the anomaly was Flowey, and Sans mistook him for us. Because you can get the same dialogue, even if you fight Sans without resetting even once.

[@justinbrentwood1299]

"The birds are chirping" *sans intensifies*

[@flo_bato]

me waiting for him to finish the undertale deltarune videos so start recomending him to play omori

[@SprayInk-Kreatïv-Nouveau]

The Thought comic (Starbot Dubs) next please, I mean, if you want.

[@LaurieLawson-c2u]

I believe the fnaf books arent entierly based on the games, they are there own seprate stories

[@punkcrowns]

I really do hope you consider checking out Earthbound, the soundtrack is absolutely phenomenal and its no wonder Toby sampled so much from it :D

[@Tundra144]

You can watch "Handplates" by Starbot Dubs and Calysto. It's a comic dub that try's to explain the skeleton brothers backstory.

[@eligozdiff5038]

Definitely would love an earthbound/mother 3 playthrough on this channel

[@JazzMaster01]

I don't have that much of a problem with the 700 Club clip, but the thing about a lot of older christians is that they typically blow things out of proportion with "evil" things. I am heavily religious, but I also love Undertale, Doom, Black Butler, etc. I can use my brain to know that it is just entertainment and I'm not gonna just start worshipping Satan after watching one anime lmao

[@Pixilpawzz]

you should definitely react to mad mew mews fight!! its a switch exclusive

[@MrMercento]

1:21:50 I have heard that sound before, but forgot where it comes from

[@darsterz]

wait but isn't there an xbox port already? or when was the video made?

[@Kale-1257]

Wait guys what if the Machine in sans room created delterrun

[@45hAsh]

Maybe thats the same machine gaster used to make his darkworld/fountain/creation and it sealed off, and sans is trying to get it to work

[@ItsMadLadSir]

First I heard about the GTLive drama...

[@joshuabowman4702]

My king. I’m just giving you a heads up to a certain section in the next video. Just get ready for people to argue because a debate that has Truly never been settled and has been around since the beginning will show up in the next iceberg. I don’t wanna say anything in case you haven’t watched the video yet and I don’t wanna spoil you.

[@Mrkraken303]

Someday you gotta check homestuck, since you hear about it a lot from tobys participation in the work, great music in it.

[@Teaspoon621]

THATS WHAT SHE SAID

[@realpartypl]

the title 💀

[@matchatoasty]

spamton sweepstakes vid when

[@ssomenerdd]

1:20:40 (there is an Xbox port)

[@_FlRE_DRAG0N_]

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING

[@Christopher01906]

That title bro 💀

[@TheShowCrow_Main_Channel]

It’s literally a normal title?

[@Christopher01906]

​@TheShowCrow_Main_Channel it says 'IT'S SO DEEP!!!'

[@SprayInk-Kreatïv-Nouveau]

​@@Christopher01906 yea, whats wrong with it

[@Christopher01906]

@@SprayInk-Kreatïv-Nouveau you're too innocent

[@ViniciusDiasissy]

​@Christopher01906 you're just too dirty minded

[@Buff_lancer]

7:32 💀💀💀💀💀

[@ShinSnipes]

pause on the title

[@joshuabowman4702]

Hmmm. I don’t really know if Toby’s contributed anything other than music to any games. Correct me if I’m wrong tho.

[@joshuabowman4702]

It’s time boys.

[@nedankar]

Wordernope be like...

[@RenlyIsDed]

HELLO KING!!!!! KANG? KENG? KINTH??? IDFK... BUT HELLO!!! I HOPE YOU'RE HAVING A AMAZING DAY!!

[@ForestArbuz]

Undertale is Deltarune's spinoff

[@AVJV]

bro gotta pause on the title 💀💀💀

[@VenThusiaist]

thats what she said

[@zolline]

Heck yeah

[@gabrielpopescu8080]

Bro you gotta play TS!Underswap

[@KynG5]

DUDE YOU *HAVE* TO PLAY MOTHER 3!!! Or, Earthbound 2, if you wanna get technical cause the first game was called Mother, then Mother 2 came out but got retitled to Earthbound here in the Americas, so Mother 3 is just Earthbound 2 because Earthbound is just Mother 2 but nobody calls it Mother 2 because everyone who's played it has called it Earthbound but nobody calls Mother 3 Earthbound 2 because it's totally disconnected from Earthbound (Mother 2) * inhale* yea its a very good game, Mother 3. _Don't cry till the end._

[@NoahGreen-yo7hk]

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[@crentomalla9907]

You should react to the ULTRAKILL ost

[@RayAkuma]

Bro, i forgot what games he work on what yoh asking me for, rewatch yourself😂

[@Aziruf]

Noisemaster fireee

[@Bonfire18]

Pause 💀

[@pablojimenezarjona4755]

There are a couple of facts wrong with this iceberg I dont know why this happens so much with the iceberg videos in general but it just a couple of things so meh

[@nighttorcher]

I mean, the creator of the video has made another video about the wrong facts in this one.

[@pablojimenezarjona4755]

@@nighttorcher ah cool

[@GeoBlitzy]

Pause

[@Memniy_tarakan]

Hello

[@laugh358]

This is just a comment

[@NoahGreen-yo7hk]

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[@NoahGreen-yo7hk]

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[@NoahGreen-yo7hk]

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