She Said Their Baby Died But She Really Gave It Up For Adoption! | KARAMO

[@jollymollyramram9702]

Didn’t he lose a son? And she told him their baby died “to hurt him”? That’s DIABOLICAL.

[@yagirlshon]

My thoughts exactly 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@curlyqween34]

Men don’t really care abt children be fr

[@yayaprettyy]

@@curlyqween34u sound ignorant

[@firstclasstrashbin]

@@curlyqween34who hurt you

[@pmerancier]

inhumane

[@enhvisualz5808]

I don’t give af about what he’s done, how tf can you lie to that man knowing his son was dead? She’s evil.

[@Shania-od5pn]

He didn’t want the first kid n now he wants the next one because it’s a boy😂😂😂 selfish asf

[@Shania-od5pn]

Ofc you don’t care 😂

[@sewingmishaps]

Face tattoo 😅😂

[@keishahouinsou2435]

Wat kinda shit is this??? They should have stayed they asses home ain't no telling y dat son took his life afta seeing this foolishness !!

[@enhvisualz5808]

@@Shania-od5pn okay and what about her? To maliciously give a baby away because you want hurt the father? She’s just as bad as him.

[@julietpaden6025]

Lying about her second child dying proves she had no emotional connection to the child, she's stone cold

[@keycrum4218]

She cares more about hurting him than anything else. It’s sick! A lot of folks will stay in relationships and produce life just to ensure the other stays miserable.

[@marylee19941994]

Exactly bc wtf

[@MylezNevison]

Sadism

[@jettahare9559]

Facts heartless ass person

[@christywilson2429]

Please stop expecting people to be you. EVERYTHING so not express their emotions the same way. I understand her She has lost so much she refuses to allow anyone to break her. She is doing what she has to to survive.

[@rozaz1186]

How did Karamo not call out this woman for lying about the baby dying . That is absolutely disgusting.

[@LeahBayaka]

Bc he knows how these ninjas act

[@claireworld_]

I know

[@ms.undastood2586]

I agree

[@yayaprettyy]

and this is why people are saying he always favors the female

[@mssoulsister2186]

He never calls out the female.

[@Kei_sey]

She was casual about saying she gave a baby up.... but the worst part is lying saying the baby died when you know his son died.

[@Quonax3]

That part 😳 that was my comment you gave your baby up to hurt the father ?? 😐

[@miekaxiii]

“To hurt him” like wtf the man’s broken already 😅

[@Oneakaell]

She’s so evil!

[@yazajag]

That made me so upset 😡

[@tristonholley]

I don’t think she was casual about it. She was hurt she just a tough woman, but she didn’t want to take care of another child by herself. She was dead ass wrong for one of the reasons she gave up the baby but at the same time the other reason is he can’t take care of the child she has with him now, so how would he take care of another child?

[@نويره-ه6ذ]

the way karamo just brushed over the fact that she said “i wanted to punish him” and said “got it” that’s absolutely disgusting. this man deserves better.

[@Hannahrk9]

Lying about your own child dying is really low.

[@collegestudent1563]

Ain't that the truth

[@donnapug]

And giving your child a balloon & a cake and that’s all pretty damn low as well. He wasn’t supporting Halo, he wasn’t gonna be supporting the other one

[@jefferyhartwell9102]

Very

[@gregorymontgomery2717]

You damn right!!!

[@Yo-yo-dt5ze]

This was hard to watch the fact he cried talking about his son and she sat there emotionless and then lied about her baby dying was wrong on so many levels

[@quetta561]

For her to be that way u dk what he did to her or what they went through when we emotionless it’s for a reason. Maybe he didn’t care bout her pain or tears and she have grown to be just as cold towards him. When a man cry it’s Hail Mary when we cry it’s here we go again

[@bathos22]

​@quetta561 Except, she still wants him.

[@KeelaHughes.]

⁠@@quetta561stfu… honestly. Ts is inexcusable

[@LeahBayaka]

Fake cries. We don't know his true behavior

[@honeyblunt4201]

@@LeahBayaka So how do you know its fake tears? You don't know him.

[@cedchalmers]

Her price tag under her shoes got me 😂😂😂

[@jaszie07]

I made this same comment! I thought I was the only one that saw it.

[@karenmcgee1869]

And she said the woman was brand new with a price tag.

[@FrankieG-x5h]

Payless, 29.99.

[@Amen0507]

Cheap😂

[@vernamurray1161]

Did you see the price

[@itsmorgannp]

He don’t even look 47, he look good! But she dead wrong .

[@Ms.Divine2024]

Fr fr

[@c0cobr0wn504]

Yes indeed!! Looks damn good

[@averageatbest6917]

Yesss he’s so handsome. I hope God heals him of his hurt and he moves on from her.

[@mirrbaby9854]

Don't he? I thought she was gonna say she was older if anything...Or say something like 5 years apart lol!

[@altovisemiller9900]

Actually, I thought she was older than him, but she's cold-hearted. Such a sad situation 😢

[@i.anthony1247]

He lost a child before and she still proceeded to tell him he lost ANOTHER one??? A son at that? She should have just given up her own parental right to him and kept moving. Evil.

[@rosieb9]

Unfortunately, the cruelty was the point. 😢

[@roselandebazelais8236]

21 years old on top of that.SUICIDE TOO.Imagine the guilt he must feel,thinking that he missed all the res flags regarding yhe Suicide.etc...

[@sattasana7753]

This story has troubled me. How can people go this low, this low.

[@thabsmkhize2481]

How lol when the only thing he’s ever done for the first child is buy a balloon and a cake? 😂

[@thabsmkhize2481]

@@rosieb9 so true. That was exactly the point. It’s another level of cruelty but that was her intention based on whatever she felt he had done to her.

[@u-no-me7218]

So they have a daughter that he doesn’t take care of but he wanted her to have the other baby when he’s already not claiming the other one or helping out with financialy and was cheating on her during that pregnancy

[@MrsParham808]

Right!?

[@markydan1232]

I wouldn’t help with a damn thing till I got some test results. That woman is trifling, I would only trust her as far as I could see her.

[@kadeshaanderson59]

@@markydan1232then get a test first when the baby is born don’t wait till she’s already totty trained and can feed herself and in school to get one! He decided to not get one because if I was a man and had a baby otw. Ima get a dna test through the courts then I’ll ask for joint custody! A lot of men can do but they don’t!

[@Molly_Oscarsson]

This woman is immature I only feel sorry for him He deserves better❤️

[@lurker616]

She’s disgusting!

[@cocochante6685]

Don’t feel sorry for him, yes she was horrible and immature, but so is he

[@typicaltip0327]

​@@cocochante6685thank you!!! He is a very childish! It's sickening to watch

[@Smooveoperator55]

​@@cocochante6685how compared to what she did? That was diabolical level shit.....just disproportionate to whatever she said he did. And still wanted to sleep with him. Did you catch that?

[@cocochante6685]

@@Smooveoperator55 yes cuz she’s toxic and so is he.

[@shaharabailey]

Karamo start holding these women accountable you are letting a lot slide and if you are trying to help you need to use this platform to keep it really real on all sides.

[@princessosuji6696]

She looks 47 and he looks 30😂

[@Ohitslenci]

Definitely not lmfaoo

[@halimayusuf8828]

@@Ohitslencidefinitely so 😅

[@danajataylor8864]

I thought I was the only one who thought that.

[@JayteeGotthatheat]

No frr

[@donnapug]

You sound like a pick me

[@seawilliams7068]

I mean why give up your child when you could’ve given it to the father 🤦🏽‍♀️ that seems extreme

[@yagirlshon]

Exactly!

[@iamjohnson8294]

She didn’t want a connection or any form of accountability. She was running 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@jobdesronvil5153]

Cause she evil

[@nuellanuellah7841]

U must not kno anything about narcissist

[@jobdesronvil5153]

Cause she’s evil because the government have overcompensated in creating laws to protect women and feminism that she can do that the men can suffer and there can be no punishment

[@Dm-qi3dv]

why didn’t karamo go off on her?? he checks everybody else when they in the wrong, she needs jail time. this is pure cruelty.

[@mssoulsister2186]

No he checks men

[@woolridge2498]

He didn't want to kick her when she was down, too much trauma

[@liymaf]

​@woolridge2498 It'd be the consequences of her beyond foul actions. She caused extra trauma for no reason therefore he should've told her about herself but he tends to pick & choose who gets told off regardless of if it was necessary or not🙄

[@anndeecosita3586]

@@mssoulsister2186I have seen him check women like the mother who didn’t go backstage to check on her teen son.

[@crystalcousimano1516]

Exactly he had to force a “mother” to do some type of action. The lady here wasn’t forced to take accountability of her actions. She took accountability once she came back to her right senses and apologized. She evens says again how she knew she was wrong and apologized again.

[@token787]

She plays a dangerous game. Leave her alone. I can not believe what she told that man about his child, I hope he gets hisself together and try to find his child.

[@a.lindseyyyy]

I hate the fact that her lying about his child being dead when she gave the baby up for adoption was glossed over! 0 remorse & 0 accountability 🙄😒

[@queenbrittanydesure]

Because the baby wasn’t actually put up for adoption honey .

[@my3babies1038]

@@queenbrittanydesureWell, where’s the baby?

[@queenbrittanydesure]

@@my3babies1038 minding his business . You trying to help with him or you just commenting ?

[@my3babies1038]

@@queenbrittanydesure I have/had/and kept all four of my children. And sent three to college 🤷🏽‍♀️ And never lied and said they were dead for attention……trash. So yeah, I guess I’m just commenting, Tuh.

[@queenbrittanydesure]

@@my3babies1038 that’s okay babe , you have your opinion. I’ve kept all my kids , lied about one but that was MY mistake Miss perfect . That’s my story though , buy my book when it comes out

[@CcBeautiful94]

She is so evil! 😡 How could you give away a baby yall created just to hurt him? Using the baby like it’s regular property after he lost his son to suicide?! Insane.

[@RonikaCarter]

Guys, yall are acting like being 47 is being ancient 😭 She is something else fr. I know the feeling of wanting to hurt someone as bad as they’ve hurt you but you can’t do it like that. The power of the tongue is very real. I just hope they can learn to co-parent healthily and work towards their healing processes

[@telisaking1829]

@@RonikaCarter the baby was put up for adoption. What coparenting?

[@ewallace0812]

​@telisaking1829 she kept the one they did the DNA test on. She gave the other child up that she had in November.

[@abigailmbarga7828]

She’s actually crazy af💀

[@roselandebazelais8236]

She isn't no dumb crazy. She a self entitled NARCISSIST M

[@michelled.2112]

And also in the comments

[@lathessiastevenson8516]

She really is.....

[@my3babies1038]

That part

[@sheneedunn1492]

I'm glad someone said it!!!🙎🏾🙎🏾🙎🏾

[@Prev8ster]

Oh she’s evil. That’s the most cold blooded shit I’ve ever heard and as he continues to cry she smiling and cracking jokes. She traumatized this man with no remorse 😢 damn smfh.

[@immortal7436]

Frr

[@collegestudent1563]

I second that part! Shame on THAT H*E OVER THERE!!!!

[@saletar9018]

She’s not evil. She literally said he was NOT there for her during her pregnancy. On top of that he wasn’t claiming Halo. I can’t stand these men. They want to hurt women to the core then expect to walk away like it’s nothing. HE should’ve treated her better! She has no support. She carries her pain so well, but that woman has been through a LOT. They both have.

[@makebacaines9205]

Well said, 💯💯💯 she is Evil

[@Prev8ster]

⁠​⁠@@saletar9018uh parts of what you said may be true but how tf does that justify the fact that she decided not to keep the baby and purposely LIED to him stating his baby died JUST to hurt him, already knowing he lost his other child to suicide and was already broken. You can be mad at men all you want but no one on this earth deserves to *purposely* be punished like that. It’s sick.

[@1981philjones]

She lied about her baby dying WTF. Karamo gotta start holding these women accountable .. straight up!

[@pollyannaprinciple5860]

Imagine giving your baby up for adoption just to get back at your partner and make him feel pain? In the process of wanting to make your partner feel pain, you make one of the worst decisions of your life that pains you forever. Sending both of them prayers.

[@leticiaferreiravaz]

She’s gonna regret that for the rest of her life. It’s gonna eat her up.

[@pollyannaprinciple5860]

@@leticiaferreiravaz Karamo had a sad look on his face from this whole situation. I think he knew that this was going to emotionally bother this woman the rest of her life as you said. If she had only consulted a therapist before making this decision, she might have not given that child up for adoption. Hopefully he went to a loving home with stable parents and no drama.

[@pamelamckenzie2685]

I feel so sad for the baby that has been adopted children always suffer I pray whoever takes the baby gives the baby the love and care and does well in life.

[@dorischristopher5394]

And continues to sleep with him…

[@beautyishername4392]

Oooh honey she petty petty that’s scary😬

[@racheldorval3869]

She is evil as hell, I lost a son and I can promise you, telling him that the baby passed knowing he lost a son already is just unspeakable pain all over again...I am shocked that Karamo didn't really address that important part of this story...I pray for him and she needs help...

[@maishesbeautiful]

as much as i love Karamo, he doesn’t hold women accountable smh

[@saletar9018]

She’s not evil. She literally said he was NOT there for her during her pregnancy. On top of that he wasn’t claiming Halo. I can’t stand these men. They want to hurt women to the core then expect to walk away like it’s nothing. HE should’ve treated her better! She has no support. She carries her pain so well, but that woman has been through a LOT. They both have. He probably wasn’t even in his 21 year old son life. The mother probably raised him by herself. LISTEN to what that woman was saying. Just because he cried everyone wants to act like he’s innocent. These men are master manipulators. Then had the nerve to bring another woman to the show. Crazy.

[@IamCarrieNotBranshaw]

@@saletar9018agreed

[@4evertrue830]

Who needs help, the woman or Karamo? 🤣🤣🤣🤣👏

[@4evertrue830]

​@@saletar9018You're delusional. You should watch the video over again and hear him say, she changed her number like 15 times so he can't get in touch with her. If a woman changes her number that many times, it means she doesn't want him to be with her.

[@aaliyahrahkaim537]

my soul started melting when KARAMO said let Halo be an angel for the both of you chileeeee

[@claireworld_]

I’m disgusted by Karamo not calling her out. She is evil!

[@myeshawilson2548]

I Said The Same Thing. He Needs To Start Checking The Women Cause Not All The Time The Men Is Wrong

[@MsLuverofmusic57]

Noticed he does that alot...all he asked her was why she told him that🤷🏽‍♀️

[@ClakyNotReversed]

He didn't call anyone out, because all this was about the baby girl, Halo. Not about the woman being disgusting. He knows she is a disgusting woman, but calling her out for being a disgusting woman, would've helped him reach her and make her realize she has to leave that man alone, for the sake of the child? Calling out can be done in many ways, for many different reasons. This is psychology here, not just a petty drama show. Go watch those, if you don't like psychology .

[@thabsmkhize2481]

The woman said she knew she was wrong and apologised. How do you call out someone who’s already taken accountability? It would have been banging his head against the wall, whereas they were actually there for the DNA reveal of the other child. One which, might I add, did not take this man by surprise at all because he knew all along that it was his daughter. He too, was denying this baby to hurt her. As far as I’m concerned they were a lost cause and the time was better spent advising them to just break up than anything else.

[@NoDeductions]

Even if she did take accountability she still has to acknowledge how to deal with the consequences of it ​@thabsmkhize2481

[@voodoohead]

She is so immature

[@cyniahturner3556]

Yes very immature

[@SinaHarofie]

Annoying af

[@Zee-ob1pe]

She’s right she is a “young girl” mentally

[@RawVeganJenNYC]

Very much so

[@mslindsayh]

Shes gross...

[@truestkiss3699]

Squeezing tears out is crazy

[@vikingrolloishot1789]

Exactly i saw that too. They both the same. He has everyone fooled.

[@aglightskin]

Yeeeeoooo I thought it was just me that peeped 😅he gotta chill 😂😂 😂

[@hcsuperb9314]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one suh cause huh?? D;

[@AlyLatrece]

Exactly!!! It took the entire segment for that drop to trickle part way down his face 😂

[@ishabah5610]

I was cringing 🫣😖

[@SiNCERELYTAYY1]

Shes sitting there with a smile on her face while he's crying

[@Stephanie-007]

That says it all.

[@Ohitslenci]

Girl LMAOO

[@a.j.g1696]

​@@OhitslenciWhats funny about this?

[@kitleecaplinger2987]

She a devil

[@Luzgoishzre]

Ok lol

[@sibslawrence2335]

I would NEVER have guessed there was a 17 year age gap!!

[@annforeman1231]

Because she def doesn’t look 30 tbh

[@saletar9018]

She’s not evil. She literally said he was NOT there for her during her pregnancy. On top of that he wasn’t claiming Halo. I can’t stand these men. They want to hurt women to the core then expect to walk away on to the next to hurt them too. Creating broken homes, leaving mothers to take on everything alone. HE should’ve treated her better! She has no support from him or his family. She carries her pain so well, but that woman has been through a LOT. They both have.

[@_LifewithLiv]

Thank you!!! Karamo I asked what he needed and he needed a damn LICENSED THERAPIST! She’s not that!

[@nathanielofori83]

Don't be a hypocrite Sis, it's not cool

[@jaydestevens257]

I was looking for this. Everyone’s minimizing her pain like she wasn’t also grieving when he left her with the baby…what she did ain’t right, but I can see why she did it. They both need extensive therapy.

[@nathanielofori83]

@@jaydestevens257 forget abt that grieving bllsh*t, does that give her the right to intentionally be that wicked and evil?? If you grow up as a child and you found out your mama gave you up for adoption and lied about you dying to your father, how will that make you feel..? Don't condone this nonsense it's not cool..

[@MylezNevison]

The problem with saying *"these men" want to hurt women to their core and just walk away to the next* , is that it doesn't factor in the reasons WHY the so called "these men" are deciding to hurt the women in the first place... If you &​ @@jaydestevens257 are going to explain her hurting him back as being a result of his cheating and neglect, then your argument falls victim to a similar defence being applied to his cheating/neglect. In other words your logic forces you to accept the defence/explaination that he cheated and left her because she hurt him too🤷🏾‍♂️...see? & the same logic wouldn't allow you to minimise or demonise the pain/grief that led him to cheat/neglect her. I hope you see why the tit for tat mindset you are using to explain her actions never works. Because it can go both ways & one can always find something you did to them to justify their reaction, and you can do the same to infinity... It just opens the door to perpetual buck passing and lack of accountability. Being hurt doesn't give one any right to hurt another unless you want to start an endless war of get back & tit for tat.

[@enhvisualz5808]

Why tf would you want to sleep with someone who said he hates you?😂

[@LeahBayaka]

Exactly

[@4CQueen]

Why would he sleep with someone who claims his baby died just to get back at him? He has every reason to hate her, I hope that he moves on and forgets about her.

[@FaCeSays]

@@4CQueenhe won’t he seems like he’s weak for sex….he’ll use and misuse the one that had his back in the audience to be in a toxic relationship with her .

[@keantheking4705]

that's BMS For u 😂@FaCeSays

[@t.c.5456]

Same reason he said it and slept with her 🙄

[@snickers8970]

She said her baby looks like her dad is 47. Meanwhile she looks way older than 30, closer to her mid 40s actually. He actually looks younger than her with great skin.

[@LilacStar82]

I thought it was just me! I was surprised she said she's 30.

[@nicoleanderson4076]

She looks damn near his age and trying to throw shade

[@Browneyezish]

I was surprised by her age- she looks around 40

[@CallmeQuayZ]

I thought she was going to say she was the older one

[@msjustifyed864]

she will keep looking old and older cause of her wicked ways too

[@theeblkmermaid]

Why is everyone blaming this women? This man keep crying ….he can’t communicate…..he keeps making babies . He has random female friends that speak disrespectfully to his girlfriend. He has random women inboxing her . I’m sure she’s also hurt about giving her baby away . He’s a deadbeat that hides behind his dead son . Why hasn’t his “financial issues” stopping him from making babies ??? Why wasn’t he there when the baby was born ? He would know that the baby was alive ! Too many excuses for a 47 yr old man .

[@dkennerlydk]

No Matter what He Did This was too low that’s the problem with Women sometimes do stuff out of emotions not thinking about the consequences so what she years later when that Baby Boy Grows up and ask “Mom You gave Me Away Just To Hurt My Father” 🤬🤦🏽‍♂️

[@candygurl084]

I was thinking the same thing 🤔.

[@Asiatic1]

And she could’ve saw the red flags and avoided but she’s just as toxic smfh

[@Nenekenneth]

This man can't lead as a man...

[@Silentshadowking]

Tbh you trying to justify a baby being given away when the father was right there

[@Chasme_please]

He looks good for 47 thought he was younger than that

[@Bugs4419]

Me too !!! Way younger!! Good genes!!!

[@harriettubman337]

And she looks older than 30!!!!

[@dee6524]

Yes, he has a baby face, which means, he's living right some way.

[@franksmith3568]

To know he lost a son and then to lie and give up his other son…that is the absolute worse kind of behavior ever.

[@trs1harlemnyc390]

They’re the perfect example of hurt people hurt people…

[@soulmusic6049]

I’m not saying this man is perfect but my heart goes out to him for having to deal with this crazy ass woman forever.

[@zaubererlauch535]

he started the whole shit with his cheating and neglecting

[@teehee83]

Sooooo we just gon act like she didn’t lie about her baby being dead when she really gave it away?!?! 🤔 Karamo you dropped the ball on this one!

[@Adrienne-wv7qo]

And we also gonna act like she didn’t lie about her age?

[@linealjr07]

Yes he did, I was like wtf. Karamo always protecting women in their wrong, the shit is backwards as hell. He can’t say he help to unite families when taking up for the women when their wrong. He needs to start checking these low down females.

[@crazycuttee]

Wait didn’t she say she had an abortion? She had an abortion but told him the baby died .

[@OneJennifer247]

I don't think the father could handle talking about it he was really crying

[@Jay-ir6ng]

@@crazycutteeadoption

[@Adventures-of-a-roadie]

So he abandons her while she’s pregnant and left her with a child already. But she’s at fault for making sure that another baby isn’t abandoned by this man. Yall can go kick rocks.

[@kaisprint]

But she continues to sleep with him. Both of them are batsh*t because there’s NO way I’d feel I had no other option but to carry a child to term and then put myself in the same situation and with the same person no less. She’s a 30 year old woman with 2 children, so even if she doesn’t know better, she should be deadset on learning better at this point. And he’s just as bad for abandoning a child after losing one and then again sleeping with the woman that gave one away. She didn’t give that child away so that he could have a better life. She did it to be vindictive and would do it again. I feel bad for Halo.

[@_Justann]

all that is valid. but for me i think it’s the fact that shawty said the baby died. that’s a whole other level of wtf 😭

[@Mannymoe3]

@@_Justann not only that, she said the baby died from being choked by the umbilical cord likely to mock his son that ended his life which might of passed by hanging. I have no doubt thats why she said it,

[@laqueshasmith1142]

She is really mad that he moved on!!

[@vanessanessa7168]

She can close her fing legs.

[@gabbypoooh]

Her gaslighting him and he’s already in pain from his past. She doesn’t care, that’s pure evil. Don’t ever be that hurt to lie this way to someone.

[@CNae03]

You're right ! There is never an excuse great enough to do what she did ... She Is truly evil , it's infuriating

[@TF-gf3fs]

Karamo never called out the woman for lying about his baby dying. Just like I thought. He never holds the woman accountable like the man's feelings don't count. I wouldn't be surprised if the real reason is because she knew that baby wasn't his.

[@jamiejackson6870]

My thoughts exactly

[@cgargoddess]

Preach

[@chrisveness-butcher9841]

Its the same as Steve Wilkos!! They never held women accountable for her actions

[@KayTalkNYC]

He asked her why she did it. Karamo addresses people's wrongdoings when they don't take accountability, acknowledge what they've done, and how it's impacting others. She did so there's nothing that needs to be said to her, from him, regarding that. Men are usually the ones who don't take accountability on his show so they're the ones that get called out the most. And he has called out women similarly.

[@Thegirlie0406]

he holds literally everyone accountable thats just not true lol

[@jeromelubabalojacobs8872]

As a mother I can't imagine the pain she had to endure to give her child up for adoption.

[@GangstaBoo7]

She tried to brush past the convo about their son..🥴 the fact she did that & her actions was SICK but didn't stop & think about their son. When he grows up to ask about his dad 💔🥲

[@mariacrouch7109]

HE IS THE FATHER OF THE CHILD WHO WAS ADOPTED WITH OUT HIS KNOWLEDGE SO THIS FATHER SHOULD GO TO COURT IF HE WANTS HIS SON GET A LAWYER

[@chinyereajiero2243]

Facts💯💯

[@asiajae6763]

Everyone wants to call this woman evil.. she is hurting under all of that!! She was not right for what she did and she admitted that.. there was no need for Karamo to bash her for that. She already admitted she knew it was wrong and that’s she apologized ..there was nothing more that needed to be said. She is beating herself from the inside out.. you can see it. That’s why I’m glad that he offered both of them therapy… because they TRULY NEED IT.

[@victoriaaa4865]

i get what you’re saying but even in her demeanor, she doesn’t come off as she truly cares that this man is hurting. maybe that’s just a wall she built to hide her feelings..

[@asiajae6763]

@@victoriaaa4865 To me it seems like she’s an avoidant..like she tries to burry all her trauma as if it doesn’t exist to keep going. Either that or she might be a sociopath 😅 but I’m thinking she really has been through so much but can’t deal with it emotionally so she never fully brings it to the surface.

[@victoriaaa4865]

@@asiajae6763 yeah i cant definitely see that. hope she invests in some therapy.

[@lovelydre868]

Who gives up their child for adoption for no other reason but to be malicious to the man that fathered him. She smirked the entire time he cried! How is that not evil??

[@asiajae6763]

@@lovelydre868 I said what she did was wrong, evil.. but I don’t think she is an evil person. I feel like she is an unhealed person dealing with a lot of trauma that caused her to act maliciously and I feel like she understands that to an extent but therapy would help her understand on a deeper level

[@4CQueen]

He can do better than sis, she ain't right in the head & Karamo is wrong for giving this woman a pass for being so evil.The Double Standards on these daytime shows is crazy.

[@queenbrittanydesure]

Well baby if you are better than me then by all means , inbox him 😊

[@jackiebennett6304]

Men treat women bad

[@lenaesmith7393]

I cannot imagine telling someone that my child died just to hurt their feelings. I’m not familiar with the adoption process, but how can you give away a baby without the father’s consent? then to still have him around after giving away his baby is crazy

[@angelawashington5569]

Absolutely crazy. Not sure how she was able to do that without his consent either. Both parents have to give up their parental rights. Maybe he didn’t feel like he was in a position to fight it since he said he’s having personal problems.

[@quanedrajackson8078]

She must’ve said she didn’t know who or where the biological father was or maybe she said he was deceased but he should be able to go and fight for his kid since he knew nothing about the adoption he can also use this as proof

[@marimarielove]

She likely said she didn't know who the father was or she did give his name, they would have to do a public publishing asking for the father to come forward, the chances of him seeing the publishing are very very slim

[@chocolatelover3926]

It's actually not that hard, I know women who did it by about lying about who the fatheri is and all kinds of other things. So it can be done.

[@blessgg]

Maybe it wasn't his? She wack on all levels

[@ccb.8603]

If anybody was wondering, he might've said some things and showed hes not mentally stable, and could have told her he didn't want the baby. If he didn't help with the pregnancy then hes deemed not fit. Also before adoption, all adoption agency and lawyers have to put out a national search for the father to have him contest the adoption. He has a certain amount of time to respond and if he doesn't, then the adoption will proceed without him. He said he hates her she said the baby died to protect herself and probably that baby. They're even. She learned her lesson and refused to go through it again. He needs to do some soul searching. The blame isn't all on this woman.

[@MsAcaciab14]

Karamo you just enabled that girl like no other.

[@BigBossKandie23]

He did. He often feels the need to validate a woman's feelings. On many occasions when a woman intentionally hurts people, it's never a matter of that's just who she is a a person. Its always seen as a front, a woman trying to be strong, or a cry for help. When it's a man that hurts someone that's just who they are, and they need to change. Their actions can never be a result of a woman's actions but even if they are he needs to control how he reacted to it. because it's not becoming of a man

[@Mothermoon420]

What a WEIRDO. You told a man who already lost a child. That another child of his passed away as a joke to make him upset?!

[@thefirstlady6679]

Thats my thought also. How evil can she get. To what end.

[@kin9shaq]

Dude is insane for not calling shoety out for being evil af, but he quick to call out a dude for being wrong

[@rosegreen8441]

This poor child!!!! She robbed the baby of knowing his dad bc she was angry at her ex? Wow ...

[@marymansfield8278]

He probably has a better family and life than what he could provide

[@Mannymoe3]

@@marymansfield8278 You're probably right but imagine if you just found out you were adopted and you finally speak to your real parent and they say, "I figured you would be with a family that could give you a better life than I could". Would that be good enough for you?

[@poisonivyheart6621]

That part, I feel she gave away their son to rob him of another son.. she’s sick, he probably would have taken care of that baby..it possibly would have helped him ( not that a baby is for that) however if he keeps sleeping with this evil baby mum it takes two.

[@dayum_mi]

Heffa you told this man his child died and now you want to cry about letting him go. Karamo why didn’t you say anything to her about her diabolical ways.

[@blessingscampbell103]

Whether a person is wrong or right Karamo doesn't like to judge

[@Opinonatedopp]

@@blessingscampbell103no, he only has smoke for men… he never calls the woman out on they BS

[@AQUAFONIC]

@@OpinonatedoppYEA HE DOES !!! His done it loads of times on this show !

[@matthewperry9811]

@@AQUAFONICIn situations when it’s 2 women yeah but it’s rare it’s never equal

[@odellbaker2083]

​@@OpinonatedoppAmen, he is so biased when it comes to men!! If a man would have done what this "piece of shat" woman did, he would have been damned in hell!!!

[@michaeldlane-gw4ns]

Disturbing, when I watched him break down over losing his son, and she sat their UNEMPATHETIC in his grief was DEPLORABLE.

[@stephaniej.stanley2141]

She’s super immature. He doesn’t need to be messing with women that young… Sounds like they were both in a very vulnerable place when they met each other

[@sewblue187]

Trauma bonding never ends well

[@yvetteliggins4980]

Her joking and saying “maybe one last time?” Was the nail on the coffin for me. After all that she was just saying and being rude and immature, making a joke like that is just sad. It’s interesting to see how two broken people can be so different. I don’t know all the things either of them have done in the relationship, but I can’t say for sure in this video that she is in the wrong. And I’m scared for her child. Lying about a child’s death (while someone is DEALING WITH LOSS) is evil, idc

[@cleobuck7717]

She is very attractive, she have no problem in finding a another mam , may God bless you! And your baby"s father, love and blessing to you both.

[@meicolar1724]

He can use the law to get his child back, but he needs to use this to gain custody of the child they have now. She does NOT deserve to be anybody's mother.

[@mimiford2]

I’ve never hated a complete stranger as much as I hate this woman. Lying about a child dying to a man who knows the pain of losing one is nothing less than pure evil. I wish nothing but the worst for her. I hope he can get custody of his daughter.

[@myeshawilson2548]

And Find His Son To Fight For

[@tamekajenkins5409]

I hate your momma for having you

[@distantrunner1587]

Dam!

[@denniscokley3885]

brand new still got the tag on got me weak 😂7:40

[@shannonhines5599]

She Minnie Pearlin😂

[@cocoluella]

karamo you should’ve called her out for what she is, i’m disappointed. what a disgusting human being. having the mindset of wanting to “punish” him was completely evil considering what he has been through. he deserves so much better and my heart goes out to him.

[@saletar9018]

She’s not evil. She literally said he was NOT there for her during her pregnancy. On top of that he wasn’t claiming Halo. I can’t stand these men. They want to hurt women to the core then expect to walk away like it’s nothing. HE should’ve treated her better! She has no support. She carries her pain so well, but that woman has been through a LOT. They both have. He probably wasn’t even in his 21 year old son life. The mother probably raised him by herself. LISTEN to what that woman was saying. Just because he cried everyone wants to act like he’s innocent. These men are master manipulators. Then had the nerve to bring another woman to the show. Crazy.

[@cocoluella]

@@saletar9018 LYING to him about his baby dying after he just lost another child to SUICIDE is most definitely evil. You can change the scenery all you want to but it doesn’t change the situation. It’s not up to you to decide “well he probably wasn’t even in the other sons life” do you hear yourself? Are there decisions that he made that were completely wrong and he should’ve acted like the grown up he is about it? Absolutely. But for you to make excuses for things like that especially when suicide is involved in the matter is sad.

[@susaneregis]

@@saletar9018bingo!!

[@lifeasmalaysia8580]

She knew what she did wrong understood it and the fact that nothing she says will make up for it ! He’s obv not over it why open that wound on stage when she already took accountability!

[@blackqueen3526]

Oh she is disgusting. How you 30 something and acting like a teenager?? Then say a baby died but gave it away?!? So EVIL!!

[@queenbrittanydesure]

I’m 31 baby ❤

[@blackqueen3526]

@@queenbrittanydesure congratulations…🍪

[@queenbrittanydesure]

@@blackqueen3526 I like macadamia nut cookies 🙄 from subway to be exact

[@blackqueen3526]

@@queenbrittanydesure sounds good right about now…how many you want?

[@queenbrittanydesure]

@@blackqueen3526 2 for me and 2 for you ?

[@elliegoulding744]

47? This man looks great for his age.

[@cocochante6685]

The child she gave up for adoption dodged a major bullet. I hope he has peace and love in his life. He will not have parents that are toxic.

[@eluxurycarrental9018]

FACTSS! Everybody blaming her but I’m glad that baby is NOT with either of them!

[@chelseaalexander2899]

I hope he can get his child! At least visitations because that's messed up. The dad could have loved that child like no other. Especially having lost a son already. My opinion. He was robbed.

[@etiennemind4703]

Gosh, to have your baby adopted out without your permission is more than "getting back" at someone. He should have had a chance for a paternity test to take custody on his own! I feel both of their pain, though. 😢

[@lakeitajohnson7874]

If he wanted the kid he wouldn’t have left her with their first one.

[@marshalettewebb2023]

@@lakeitajohnson7874he didn’t leave her. Did you hear that comment “she loves her daddy” How is that if he hasn’t been a father? I don’t think the baby she gave up was his baby. She would already be justified giving the baby up for adoption if he really abandoned her with their first child. Why go through all that to make sure he can’t stop an adoption of a child she didn’t want? 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@TrueStrategicEyes]

2:30 she looks way older than 30. This lady is used up

[@TinkbooBoo]

@@TrueStrategicEyes I'm 45 I thought we was around the same age,she looks old for 30

[@jorgealejandro672]

Wow this woman is full blown evil. Just cuz she got rejected and couldn’t handle it or move on. I was on her side the first 3 mins. Then all her evil came out and switched up. She needs Jesus.

[@destinywilliams9387]

Aside from everything else, claiming that a child has passed that you actually gave up is just way too extreme, especially knowing that he lost a son.

[@spreadlovenothate5017]

She cried for that man but not for her baby that she casually gave away and spoke death upon? 😭😭 I hate this world.

[@deidrapeters635]

Hate it! She’s pitiful

[@brynnk2518]

This is off topic but he looks really good for his age. I wouldn't have guessed there was a big age gap between them.

[@ariamason9324]

She looks old because she's evil.

[@lesley5380]

Same.

[@BrittanyHunter-f6w]

Me neither…he looks amazing

[@d-sno9715]

If that baby she claimed died was given up for adoption and the biological father didn't sign off in agreement to it, being that he thought the baby was dead. Doesn't that make it an illegal adoption that he could contest??

[@Slimsupremacy]

It definitely does

[@maryjanemantshiu9859]

It does

[@dianne448]

Yes

[@Janubia68]

Indeed 💯✔️

[@dwaynemorris6190]

She gave the baby up for adoption?

[@GodsChosenMekAmoR]

I really appreciate the hosts genuine advice and compassion. He said some good gems. Get yourselves together so the angel "Halo" doesn't inherit your trauma.

[@mikaelah8904]

this poor man, my heart hurts for him :(

[@elev8tedconvers8tions71]

I used to tell my ex this all the time. So many women walked away from him without seeking revenge including myself. Then he finally met his match and she was almost successful at killing him 🤦🏾‍♀️ can't play with everybody like that

[@BlackButterfly504]

A narcissist meeting an even bigger narcissist, all they will do is destroy each other.

[@vikingrolloishot1789]

Exactly you cant play with everyone

[@Armelleee]

Fact.

[@NokiGirl83]

Karamo has to pick his battles carefully, that lady is insane!!

[@mssoulsister2186]

Karamo seems like he has an issue with men. No matter how wrong the female is he always sides with her.

[@LilacStar82]

Well knowing his sexual orientation, I'd doubt that.

[@Opinonatedopp]

@@LilacStar82that dnt mean anything gay men think they women

[@MercedesAlluree]

He is gay so it isn’t surprising , if he was a gay girl he’d probably have that issue with men .. from a former gay girl person , I do see that as the problem but I’m no dr

[@KayTalkNYC]

Karamo addresses people's wrongdoings when they don't take accountability, acknowledge what they've done, and how it's impacting others. She did so there's nothing that needs to be said to her, from him, regarding that. Men are usually the ones who don't take accountability on his show so they're the ones that get called out the most. And he has called out women similarly.

[@Opinonatedopp]

@@KayTalkNYC shut up… you know damn well he favors the woman no matter how evil and how much shit they have done. Stop playing dumb

[@Thatgirlnayja]

I love you Karamo ❤, but please start holding these women accountable just as much as you hold the men accountable ! Lying to that man about his child dying knowing he already lost a son is crazy.

[@KayTalkNYC]

He asked her why she did it. Karamo addresses people's wrongdoings when they don't take accountability, acknowledge what they've done, and how it's impacting others. She did so there's nothing that needs to be said to her, from him, regarding that. Men are usually the ones who don't take accountability on his show so they're the ones that get called out the most. And he has called out women similarly.

[@yvonnebrendamiller6305]

Both need complete healing inside and out.

[@neashahorton9754]

She is a wicked person, she has no feelings, no remorse. He need to watch his back from her!

[@ShanellWashington-f3j]

He can use this video to go get his child back.

[@queenbrittanydesure]

He don’t have to , I asked him months ago to produce me something . A car seat or some diapers for the baby and he can see him immediately but still nothing

[@benjaminbryantjr4262]

@@queenbrittanydesureare you the women in the video?

[@benjaminbryantjr4262]

@@queenbrittanydesureyou are a beautiful women but your insides is so evil I get he hurt you but giving his son away and telling him his son died when he already had a son that dude is evil I hope you watch this episode back and change some things

[@queenbrittanydesure]

@@benjaminbryantjr4262 yes

[@queenbrittanydesure]

@@benjaminbryantjr4262 I totally understand where you are coming from and I take sole responsibility for what I did . At the time it seemed right said out loud at that moment I knew . It was a lesson learned and I wish full healing on both parents. No adoption was done

[@shontelledwards]

Why isn’t she being held accountable for lying? She told him the baby died but instead put the baby up for adoption without the father’s consent. He needs a lawyer.

[@Ilovemylife98]

Ok this woman so evil😩Can’t even type anymore

[@moy16ful]

He said he might hate her for life and I don’t think they caught that, baby this man wishes you weren’t around.

[@YawOwusu-p2n]

Don't be feminist and a hypocrite did you watch the program.Come to reality

[@queenbrittanydesure]

Interesting because he’s asleep on my couch right now but okay 🤞🏽

[@moy16ful]

@@queenbrittanydesure if you think sleeping on your couch means he doesn’t hate you, you aren’t wise enough for your age.

[@queenbrittanydesure]

@moy16ful I would never go around someone that I hate but thats just me . Maybe you are right but I’m not forcing him to come around . He’s more than capable of blocking me and moving on with his life

[@THEMONITOR72]

@@queenbrittanydesureyou are one nasty piece of work!!!

[@juniorchrisopher7617]

The level of comfort she feels saying all of this right next to him without fear of a physical reaction is disgusting. Especially when she was quick to resort to violence with a stranger.

[@ariamason9324]

He look great for 47. She looks much older than him.

[@queenbrittanydesure]

Oh girl please 😂😂 I look good stop it

[@DarthFurie]

I couldn't get over the fact that he's 47, he has great skin AND young-looking features

[@Lenasevilla-yb4ei]

@@queenbrittanydesuregirl you look hard in the face

[@queenbrittanydesure]

@@Lenasevilla-yb4ei I definitely don’t lol that’s just my natural beauty. You can come for what I did but never the looks ♥️

[@queenbrittanydesure]

@@DarthFurie he naturally does , it’s the inside that matters though ♥️🤞🏽

[@priscillal5428]

DANG that child will see this video one day and know he was given up for adoption to be vindictive. That's crazy

[@queenbrittanydesure]

He wasn’t given up for adoption

[@aliciaaa6021]

@@queenbrittanydesure this your business but it sounded like that was the case. When you said you gave him up what does that mean

[@ameseadior]

@@queenbrittanydesureso where is he ??

[@eluxurycarrental9018]

@@queenbrittanydesurewhat’s your zodiac sign?

[@TeeTee_709]

He cried the whole show and didn't produce not one tear... They deserve each other.

[@TaxProGirl]

OMG!!!! She gave her baby away only to have another baby by the same man. Then, she told the father another one of his children died while he's still grieving the 1st child that died. She is the worst kind of evil. I would keep my distance from her. Her get back has no limits.

[@cutejokn1]

Dam she is wicked 😮

[@jackwalter5970]

Beyond evil.

[@donnatolbert6141]

That's an understatement....Horrible on every level

[@ondomichael9991]

@@cutejokn1 she's not

[@latyshal.2286]

Hurt people hurt people. 💔 I pray that both can forgive each other and heal. ❤

[@essence64111111]

She is trifling

[@dakota7555]

She is one of the worst guests Karamo has had on his show

[@nflglo]

She's very messy very immature has some growing and self love to do...Her father grieving he will love his daughter and take care of her...the lying is what hurt no communication

[@samanthajackson8510]

The lady he came with should have some respect

[@taytriggs9065]

When you trauma bond with someone it can be helpful but you will always be reminded of that trauma.

[@lifewithyana2924]

Man this is upsetting me SO much! I have never been this infuriated with a woman before and disgusted with her behavior. It completely broke me how she was so nonchalant and could never accept her wrongs. That poor man. Of course he could have made mistakes, but she is cold hearted and is jealous of him and him trying to grow. The way he was crying broke me so bad. He deserves so much better and I can tell he is a strong individual who wasn't afraid to show his tears and trauma. She is SICK. Her behavior is not excusable and lying that a baby is dead while also knowing what he's been through with his own son is TRASH.

[@MsLuverofmusic57]

Exactly! 👏🏽

[@Angel-AB1421]

She is a cold-hearted human. He needs to leave her so he can grief and heal. How can she give away his baby to punish him?? The man is in deep grief, woman! 😢

[@lumbeenation8169]

That's why she look well beyond her years, living a life of hate and vengeance....pregnant for more than 6 months I'm sure just to wait to give the child away to hurt him...she is diabolical! I thought she was at least 40.

[@patriciamoss4964]

They need counseling ASAP

[@lunacy3]

Lying about your baby dying and putting them up for adoption just to hurt his FEELINGS like you didn’t just ruin a child’s life is crazy asf🤨 then smiling and trying to flirt with him afterwards is even more insane