Can YOU Pull This Off? ｜Yusuke in Okinawa Season 2 Ep.12 【Shogen Ryu Karate】

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[@KarateDojowaKu]

What's your thought on the "axis placement"? Previous Episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqWqpYqKj8l3oNE Yusuke in Okinawa Season 2: kzbin.info/aero/PL6uceGkw5VFmFMlNwF9ra2yPvZSsuqZXT Yusuke in Okinawa Season 1: kzbin.info/aero/PL6uceGkw5VFkSWeQVK8hnrXt5LEwiV6JD 🥋FREE TRIAL｜Online Group Lesson🥋 karateintokyo.com/ 🥋Online Private Lesson🥋 karateintokyo.com/online-training/

[@MMABeijing]

I think you should train without the kimono, because you are in love with the cracking sound it does and you miss a lot of fundamental basics. Loose the expensing gi, loose your attitude.

[@ivansa9669]

@@MMABeijing I am not a karateka, but I think what Yusuke wore, is not a kimono. Karate uniform is called Karategi (空手着 or 空手衣). In regards with axis placement, What Naka sensei did was to land a punch at the same time his left foot set on the floor. What is interesting from this episode is about make your upper body like blank paper. What do you think about that statement?

[@redskullfire706]

Geometrically it will in the end make powerful punches when merged with the twisting to reuse the energy of the last. Your moving into the punch to keep momentum. Looseness is needed to full utilize the twisting motion before the step in. The shaping of the gi might be throwing you off. At home when practicing I would say loosen it a little bit as they had it or wear pajamas. The point is to make your body more like flowing rather than forcing. The sway from back to front and side to side is a built up force meant to force more power into each fist. If you are not loose you can't maximize that force. Your like a skinny glass sloshing water than a hefty one of the same height. It needs to come from that tendem point up to the fist. You need to break the visual of your shoulders being a square in your mind. Relax while you practice this and forget about form. Put your mind in a state of full and total peace while practicing the movements. Then while retaining that, let your shoulders rest and only bring your form back half into first punch, do steps one and two all the way into second with Barley a sec to pause. Your body has been trained to remain in form, you need to be able to liquefy and solidfy your form. One because it brings more swing within the bodies punches, two it makes your actions less readable. Naturally as you do use a tight form you need to be able to losen back into that form. Then the movments will be instant and the inertia will be recycled. In the form of a water glass the tension point is in the middle for an axis. So definitely the stomach area needs to stay solid and unmoving. It's the glass in this situation and meridian point for the water. The rest just needs to expand and liquefy back into a solid at the last instant. 😉 hope this helps

[@badooasu9406]

just focus in tanden. i tried in the gym what sensei said in video, yes its really hard, mid body and hip placement first , then limbs movement. really hard to do if not relaxed, sometime your limb move faster when your mid body tanden not ready for movement you would execute. i sure sensei does repetition for decade to have kins kind of relaxation to have mid body control first then limbs asosiation.

[@jamesfrankiewicz5768]

@@ivansa9669 The top of the uniform can validly be called a kimono, in Japan. The rest of the world thinks of "kimono" as formal wear or full length robe-like clothing, but that's not the actual case. Joui (jōi) is another name for the top of the uniform.

[@MJRLHobbyStuff]

Gotta love these Sensei! “Don’t do this” (show move) “Do it like this” (shows move that looks 99% the same) Classic.

[@coha348]

That 1% is the difference between mediocrity and greatness

[@MJRLHobbyStuff]

@@coha348 very true. It’s just that the difference is so subtle, and difficult to pinpoint exactly what’s different. Someone like Yuske Sensei, he’s very good, but adjusting on the fly with something like that is very difficult

[@brunodipietro7312]

His 50 years of training really shows ; looks so relaxed but moves like lightning

[@danielsanmetzger]

This is what we refer to as being “rooted” when we teach Goju Ryu. We use this to explain principal of Hard and Soft “straight and circular movement”

[@karllohmann4718]

Really beautiful karate. I wish I could see more of Tamaki Takeshi sensei & Tokashiki Masahiko sensei. It is rare to see such relaxed & connected bodies, which is needed for maximum efficiency. Xing yi quan, baguazhang, tai chi... Chinese internal arts use the same principles. Again, really beautiful.

[@MZH47]

It helps a lot when we practice these drills along with hitting something. You can feel the difference in power and how much effort it takes. Without hitting there is too much thinking and overthinking.

[@Justobserving3684]

The way these Karate masters move and the way they explain the internal aspect is the same as its done in many internal kungfu systems. It takes time to get right but once you understand how to move from the Tanden/Dantien then a whole new world of martial arts opens up. The trick is to learn how to do it while sparring.

[@mikaelserviam7329]

I remembered practicing wing chun before. It is all about relaxation. When punching in wing chun, the fist must be relaxed. It's like, thinking about your elbow only. Try to make the elbow and other joints follow the center line. The arms and fists are just like a leaf or blade of grass that follows where you swing its stem. The whole body is basically "dangling." Just focus on the centerline.

[@sentinel011]

That's right. I imagine my entire arm as more of a spring or rubber band, holding onto a stone (fist). The result is an internalised whip with a hard point. This form of karate in the video reflects on a system or pulleys and gears made out of rubber band like structure, utilizing force by circular momentum created by relaxation on the ends of the muscles, and causing additional force when you tense and stretch them accordingly. They all need to work in tandem, and for some people, this concept can take years or decades to perfect

[@BLenz-114]

Boy I just LOVE this set of videos SOOO much!! These two old guys have been doing this for so long they don't even know how to explain it. This is some Oogway level sh** right here.

[@jamesfrankiewicz5768]

So, Sensei Seth just put out a video wear he tried out Systema. One interesting point in the video was the coach illustrating their punching form. He exaggerated the movement a bit to show how it worked, but I think it was similar to what the Shogen-ryu instructors were trying to teach you here. One thing you might what to try here: instead of doing the typical chōkuzuki-hikite form with these exercises, try doing a ridge-hand targeted at the lower ribs, which should remove your shoulder muscles from the movement to a large degree. Start from a lower and looser hikite position than you are used to (you might even be inclined to think of it as sloppy form), with your hand resting on top edge of the pelvis, then make it feel like your pelvis is launching your hand forward when you start the strike. Think of the whole form like cracking a whip, with no pause at the point of impact, with your hand flowing back to the hip at the end. To begin with, try it with doing with just the first hand, rather than trying to do a 1-2 combo.

[@mikemahoney682]

I think one of the things that makes them cues them in is that alot of times you were still trying to have some kind of "kime" moment but all that would do is cause your shoulder muscles to hit the brakes and then that causes that lag that they zeroed in on.

[@robertjohn3260]

Part of the problem is that the relaxation they want you to do is a result of their conditioning, so it’s not something that is easily fixed. When they talk about a connection to the Hara, they literally mean a physical, elastic connection - which is again a result of the inherent forms and conditioning methods in their art. Until you’re able to create a physical centerline, get some actual elastic connection etc, they’ll say you aren’t even close to doing what they’re doing. I think it’s notable that most of the southern Chinese fist styles - which all offshoots of karate are derived from, don’t have Kime. Kime almost seems like someone’s interpretation of the expression of power seen in those methods, and then went on a tangent…

[@cahallo5964]

@@robertjohn3260 Kime is absolutely Funakoshi's fault lol

[@michaelcraig5295]

“Punches are softer now.” “They’re better?” “They’re softer now”

[@Fatherofheroesandheroines]

Very interesting. It becomes more and more obvious how different Okinawan and Japanese karate truly is. Makes sense since Okinawans invented it!

[@DragonDreamVNY]

That last Q, I think GojuRyu or Uechi Ryu styles have a concept of a rooted form, then a "moving root". If the alignment and structure behind is solid, then a Shotokan master like Naka-Sensei can make use of that momentum also crashing that Strike into the target.

[@georgefoley9793]

You are right; I was going to make a separate post, but then saw your comment. I practice Goju-Ryu, and my instructors often tell me that I punch or kick too early without first settling in a good solid / "rooted" stance first - the lesson for me is that without a rooted stance, the technique will fail to cause sufficient impact because the power is not being transferred from the ground through my body into the movement.

[@iamsh1han797]

A relaxed mind is the key to a relaxed body. The body can not exist without the mind. Do not give up Sensei. Just try to learn again and implement what you already know. And your Sensei is right, concentrate on your lower half and your torso will catch up.

[@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812]

It's also honestly more about properly transferring the force into the target rather than how much force you generate

[@hrist34]

Exact same theory in taekwondo pomsee (kata) practice: relax shoulder/body , place weight move ... Physiology is the same in all martial arts .. That s why i love watching your videos. Keep on doing those !!!!! Thanks

[@GwennDana]

In your example at the end, the quick Oi Zuki, there's no need to "settle the axis". It's a straight forward movement that only "unwraps" your body. If it's a one-shot technique, backleg support is sufficient for that motion. It gives up stability though. From the perspective of the Tanden: left hip and shoulder go backward (and with the foot on the ground that will propel you forward), and the right shoulder and elbow whip your fist into the target. One single rotational movement can bring your body into a straight line between your back foot and your front fist. All you need the right front foot for in that case is to keep you from falling down after the impact. So then if the goal is just to score a point, not to get back out quickly, ... I suppose in a fight over time, not Jiyu Ippon, one wouldn't give up balance like that and would want the front leg to be rooted so one can get back out after the punch.

[@TrueSighted]

Theres not a single teach worth their salt that I've ever known, that doesn't critique their students almost relentlessly on their footwork and micro movements. Dont take it so personally. They aren't there to berate you. They are there to show you the next step on the path, and help you elevate yourself. It takes time, and much practice. But the movements, they all have their purpose. If they didn't care, they wouldn't make such an effort to help you understand and add their skills to your own. Just take some deep breaths, and calm your anxiety. You can get through it. Just calm your restless spirit. And take it one moment at a time. It will add up.

[@jacksmith4460]

This is like Tai Chi (Focus on internal movement and relaxation)

[@fulcifan6946]

You could do it 100% perfectly and they would still tell you you’re doing it wrong. I wouldn’t worry about it.

[@Ishowspeedshorts488]

I think they are messing you up, more than helping. Maybe I just don’t see what they are saying, when you are punching your fist is not even closed. No way would any place I ever trained would they let you get away with that. Your explanation at the end helped. I am probably to stupid to understand. Or it could be a case of the kings new clothes, only real smart people can see it.

[@johnlloyddy7016]

It takes an experienced eye to see the difference. I'm by no means a master, but due to my background in different martial arts, I can actually see what they are talking about. His body is so trained and conditioned to his style of Karate that he can't relate to their references in movement. In simple terms, it's similar to a Golfer teaching a hockey player how to swing a golf club, they are trying to teach him the mechanics and nuances of a golf swing, but because he is so used to swinging a hockey stick, his muscle memory kicks in midway thru the swing and he ends up botching the attempt. He needs to unlearn his way of swinging to learn their technique and that would actually take longer than if they just taught someone who never swung either a golf club or a hockey stick before in their life.

[@GwennDana]

@@johnlloyddy7016 Well... Our typical moden, "algorithmic" way of thinking about complex motions and the fact that what "feels effortful/strong" isn't what's most effective will probably also make this a problem for a beginner -- as soon as they start thinking about the "how". Practice has to bring you beyond thinking about "how" then for the rest of your life :)

[@RadicalTrivia]

I do jiujitsu, but these concepts seem similar to things I understand as well. To create power by shifting weight forward, then using the impact with the ground as the beginning of a whipping motion with the hips that are locked to the elbows. Or, at least, that's what it looked like. I dunno, I don't do karate. Haha

[@SenseiMaharaj]

Yup i agree with your point sir! Yawarakai柔らかい is more important here... 😊

[@RadicalTrivia]

@@SenseiMaharaj I had to Google that term, but YES! Haha. Definitely gotta stay yawarakai

[@SenseiMaharaj]

@@RadicalTrivia柔 This kanji is - Yawarakai, yawara, yawa in Kundoku and Ju in ondoku. Jujutsu 柔(Ju). It means "Gentleness", Soft. You can relate now. 😊

[@RadicalTrivia]

@@SenseiMaharaj Thank you! I'm actually working on learning Japanese!

[@SenseiMaharaj]

@@RadicalTrivia You're welcome sir! And all the best... 😊

[@karaterevolutionkaizendojo]

Time makes it perfect💯

[@onoviktor7867]

ありがとう🙏🌸🙋

[@MarkoObradovich]

This is so interesting. Thank you for sharing this. Although as someone who trained karate for 20 years and now for 15 years and still training kickboxing, I agree with you that this knowledge has to be individually adjusted to make optimal performance. But the point the masters are teaching is true.

[@janfransen9138]

what i believe these great men are trying to convey is the concept of relaxation creating natural movement wich is something that is very rare in classical martial arts these days something i would very much like to discuss at length with yusuke

[@davidsiqueiros4340]

In Kenpo we start most of our movements the second our feet hit the ground. The setting motion makes it stronger and more solid; more practical. Dynamics are so interesting to learn

[@amyshevchenko2476]

(Using mother’s account) So, axis placement is very important to this style. The axis is in your hips. That is where force comes from. Although I still recommend using your shoulders, the hip is more important. The hip in the axis. This is what goes between your torso and legs. Your legs are support. Place them correctly. Also, your center of mass is also in your lower hip. Meaning, you need to use your axis to move your legs correctly. Meaning a subtle pivot of the foot. And your balance should go right in the center. You seem to roll forward or backward. So, a stance with your weight in the center is crucial. Think of a book on your head. The smallest “whipping technique” will cause you to become rigid. I recommend a book called “Fight like a Physicist.” This is where I got this information. You probably know what I said already. I hope it helped. Maybe I am missing something. BTW, I am a second Dan in taekwondo. (World taekwondo.) I hope you quickly learn this relaxing technique. Love your videos!

[@GwennDana]

You don't "use" your hips or shoulders in this approach, if I understood right. It's just the first two "loose" joints that are affected when whipping the motion from the Tanden. And from there it follows they always act in sync, as they balance around the Tanden. If the left hip goes back, the right shoulder will go forward. If you don't want that you'll again have to recruit additional muscles to "bend" your body into a different shape. They are thinking of the tanden like a floating ball that gets a rotational impulse to whip a chain reaction through shoulder/elbow and hip/knee that should mostly self-stabilize. The floor is just an "obstacle" to this motion that keeps you from falling down or the reflexive contact with the ground when setting the motion in place propels you forward (or in any other direction). The key is bringing the body into a configuration at the beginning and throughout the motion with minimal effort, so the rotational impulse will move your body into the desired end configuration. It's a complete reversion of awareness for body and motion from "I do this motion, then this,..." to "there's an impulse from the Tanden, let that flow that to the desired end state". That's why the emphasise Naihanchi. Every technique in Naihanchi is whipped, and one can learn that whip without worrying about the legs. They're just wound into that flexible but stable stance to so the legs build a somewhat restricted but flexible enough base for the Tanden.

[@janpeterjensen7846]

Wonderful sessions with these two masters. To punch before the axis settles, will minimize the duration, camouflage the punch and allocate a lot of weight into the punch. If you punch just when the axis settles, there is ground reaction force, which will accelerate the punch. The balance is also better.

[@scottgarner6110]

Having the eyes closed and feeling the movements is a good idea.

[@nohhknowwyeww]

2:45 move like a w.ave the force ends at the end of the step and strike. The front stops completely. The back begins moving--caterpillar-like...the back comes forward and supports the forward. The front moves when supported.-Ernie Moore Jr.

[@huanliu6354]

I think this training is focusing in improving your Gyaku goshi. Gyaku goshi first then the punch follow the movement of Gyaku goshi. And the perfect timing for the punch to follow the movement of Gyaku goshi is when your advancing foot touch the floor/axis placement. Btw can't wait for the naihanchi video 😁

[@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y]

I get the feeling the sensei teaching you is very funny outside the dojo.

[@mituc]

Indeed, one of the problem these days is that students are taught to use the body to throw the arm in a punch (which inherently leads to disconnecting the arm from the body) instead of using their arm as an extension to punch with the body and keep the whole body connected. Watching this video made me realize what other mistakes I do in my technique, there is a very high value of information in this video. Yet I think I have an easier and more intuitive way of explaining these simple techniques which can then be used as a base for progressing further. Probably I will have to make a video on that, even start some collaborations. We'll see.

[@mustafanawaz243]

Lovely episode. I have been so curious about the concepts of timing and weight shifts in martial arts and watching this was very satisfying.

[@qaannat]

learning to relax is hard, this was some good insight

[@epramberg]

I am enjoying these two instructing you, and I am trying to internalize their commentary. They know a great deal. Their karate isn't flashy or dramatic. Instead, it is good. Good karate is ugly.

[@DragonDreamVNY]

Some of the timing and coordination reminds me of Inoue-ha Karate. Efficient and all from the centre/tanden. 🤔💪

[@BelloBudo007]

Are you referring to Shito-Ryu karate of Inoue Sensei?

[@DragonDreamVNY]

@@BelloBudo007 yes. I saw some of those Karate shorts uploaded by an Italian Karate channel. In one of them Inoue Sensei was showing as his foot lands how he times the punch for Oi-Zuki. 1-2, 1-2, ✖️ "1" ✅

[@BelloBudo007]

@@DragonDreamVNY Thanks for the info. While not a Shito Ryu karate-ka myself, I watched many videos of Inoue Sensei. He was an excellent karate teacher.

[@art.of.segura]

These have been really cool episodes. All the things you're being taught are high level martial concepts. From personal experience ... you're gonna be working hard at this for the rest of your life. Relaxation is not the same thing as loose but they're teaching you that way so you can get the gist of it. The big take away from this is you should be unifying and coordinating your whole body. My recommendation is to practice all your katas very slowly while focusing on all the principles they're teaching you. In time you'll start to get the general feeling and you can gradually speed up.

[@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812]

I most certainly can, but so there's alot going on here, also alot more that can be added to these concepts. But as mentioned below it is very similar to the systema movement, and these aspects comes from the same type of Chinese arts that systema got it's methods from. But just a surface level simplification, using your "center of mass" aka center of gravity for power, as well as the "relaxation" is a precondition for using the internal power, when you tense up or strain exerting alot of muscular effort etc you energy does not flow past your shoulders thus you are just physically clubbing the target with your hand rather than actually transferring your internal power inside of the target

[@terrysanders2817]

Just discussed this video with a friend and here is the essence of that conversation. Those two Okinawans were very disrespectful of you and Shotokan. They are probably envious of you skill intelligence and youth. Have you ever seen a sensei laugh at astudent? With respect for your skills, Terry.

[@taroultraman1]

They laugh because they've experienced it before and know this will be very hard to teach unless you commit fully to learn under them, almost throwing away your Shotokan experience for a few years until you get what they meant.

[@108buddhas]

Wu wei is a concept that can help! Wu wei means being effortless. The reason why soft overcomes hard is because it is illusive. It is like water flowing!

[@alexd.626]

You're very fortunate. Those Shihan are giving you really advanced concepts.

[@dieserjason]

Hi Yusuke, love your videos! Could you do a video about your diet?

[@PhilDancer]

Yusuke Onegaishimasu! I would say its similar to the Chinese concept of heaviness through the feet with a slightly tucked pelvis on the point of impact using the rotation at the last moment for the whipping motion.

[@aaronsensei7637]

I think when you have to un-train from years of martial arts development in specific styles. In order to train with a new or different concept is difficult. This method is more similar to my training although my background is Goju Ryu and wado Ryu. In my training it is known as rooting.

[@kinrath1987]

Again, the one point is the center of balance. If you practice moving in a way where you "spill" balance forward, you will find that at the point of impact that you will make a type of wave from under the impact from foot to impact. This requires the relaxation and enough ridgitity in your frame to not be overcome while redirecting linear force in a more desireable direction

[@MariaTCosta-kz5ry]

Yes, use your hips movements.

[@BelloBudo007]

I am really looking forward to this video, because our dojo is practicing similar ideas to get rid of tension & move more smoothly. So of course I am keen to see if the ideas of this dojo are similar or perhaps have headed off in a completely differently direction.

[@daosnet]

In taijiquan there is the concept of “Zhong ding”. That is the center of equilibrium. This axis settling means maintaining the center of equilibrium. That way you are always in balance. If you are in balance, ie yin and yang are in balance, you will generate relaxed power. The gliding is to not telegraph your movement. Moving from the tanden/dantien is so the entire body moves as one whole, not different body parts moving at different points of time. These are all principles contained in the taijiquan classics.

[@owenli7180]

RE: axis placement, I think it's a matter of why and when. Like so many things in martial arts, it's a compromise you need to make depending on your goal. Having an axis set as the blow lands gives that blow more power, and is particularly good if you intend to take the opponent's position, but if your blow does insufficient damage to incapacitate or distract your opponent, you are now very close, with your feet set, and you must be ready to follow up immediately, or defend yourself. On the up side, if you are successful, you can now dominate that space, and steal their balance with greater ease. In real combat, I imagine this strategy being of greatest use when you need to defend someone else, and also if you have a strong wrestling/jujutsu/judo background (that last one also applies in a sporting context if rules allow). Striking BEFORE your axis is set I feel has its best use (outside of point scoring competition) when you intend to flank the opponent or move out of range, but NOT to take their position. Hitting them while your lead foot is off the floor means you must rely upon the speed of your arm to generate power, so it will be a weaker punch than when your axis is set. But if your intent is mostly to distract while you get into a better position, then that is also a valid strategy. In real combat, I imagine this would be of great use when you are not sure if they have a weapon, and you just want to stun them and run. In a sporting context (again if rules allow), I'd say this is a valid strategy if you know you DON'T have a strong wrestling/jujutsu/judo background, and you need to keep your distance. Also a valid strategy if the opponent is much larger and heavier than you, I think. You don't want to be stuck under/in front of someone who out-weighs you by 30kg, even if you manage to land an incapacitating punch. I'd almost think of the first being the equivalent of a spear, and the second the equivalent of an arrow. One requires you to be rooted into the ground, but has immense power if it hits, the other gives you the benefit of distance and speed, but does not have the same power.

[@nohhknowwyeww]

It's lik-move during the transition. be finished when you get there. You get there and start. During the move-begin the technoque in between the stepping.-ish.-Ernie Moore Jr.

[@joejacquesschulz8514]

That goes against everything I have been taught when I trained Karate as a schoolboy. Our trainer was a former soldier who always told us we had to move like soldiers. When he joyfully screamed his commands he demanded that we would react precisely to his commands. We were asked to show maximum effort. He demanded we would stand still when he didn't command us to execute a certain move. It was all about obedience and the discipline of the group, as he openly admitted. I couldn't do that. I wanted to move like these senseis, fluent and without telegraphing and without an all too obvious rhythm. Yet that he condemned as weak and lazy. So, yes, I can pull that off. I struggle to NOT pull that off. ;-)

[@Noone-rt6pw]

While you're on Okinawa, would you stop by and check out Isshinryu by Tatsuo Shimabuku? Then with white floors could you change the color of words translated into a darker color?

[@Burvedys]

The hardest relaxing so far... :)

[@fredricclack7137]

after training in MDK Tang Soo Do 👁️ had2 change my approach to 👊 & 🦶 in Shaolin KF ☯️!

[@mburns1210]

If your axis in not set, you will have no power behind the strike, only momentum. This is good only for specific targets. Other targets require power to push through the target, not just touch.

[@hugopedroso5247]

Once more time, is totally valuable your experiences with other styles and masters. All of them has a lot of knowledge to share. However, it´s still important to question and criticise. For many moments, the master´s correction said Yusuke san was wrong, but the execution was exactly made as he explain and also, what he said, for some moments were also different from what he execute. Karate is complex, but sometimes people like to put complexity where it does not exist to show how hard it is. It´s a life long path but it doesn´t mean you need to take a whole life trying to train something that is not learnable. Simplify is a way to reach more people that would like to practice. If its a humility philosophy of practice, it should be developed to everyone.

[@quickstep2408]

also notice that they don't fully extend their arms for strikes. they're feeling it with their centre and not focusing on arms or fists. there is still a time and place to focus on upper body but first getting this down is a good reaction to condition into someone. this style was meant for explosive reaction, close range. honestly, maybe not the best way to start with someone. should be doing exercises that isolate the hips so that the student knows how it 'feels' first. striking with movement and footwork should come later. time constraints and the fact that he's yudansha unfortunately means throwing him into the deep end from the start lol

[@hamasathecold7842]

I can only imagine how much harder this is because of your training in shotokan. Unlearning years of habits

[@williameubanks8078]

The Sensei are correct. My instructor teaches the same.

[@UatuEd]

Interesting to see tanden (dantian) taught in karate.

[@scottgarner6110]

looks very difficult and even harder to perform. They are right it takes years to develop if not use to it.

[@nohhknowwyeww]

1:14 sounds like Chinese Six Harmonies.-Ernie Moore Jr.

[@nohhknowwyeww]

Mind below the naval-above the waist you move like the wind.-Ernie Moore Jr.

[@stevenedmund5680]

Like I commented in the last video. As your front foot touches you are making contact with the punch. Just watch Bruce Lee in Enter the dragon when he is asked by Ohara to go outside ...when Ohara leaves Bruce does this whipping motion that you are practicing with a throat strike followed by punches. Same theory.... different brush stroke. @8:05 was good ..the first one after the small break.

[@robbstat]

This is just like practicing meditation in karate form

[@greg6509]

5 loosening exercises from Fujian White Crane and Yang Tai Chi Chuan Master Huang Sheng Shyan may help to get this.

[@ruiseartalcorn]

Great stuff! Very interesting :)

[@davezen8355]

I am a green belt from matsubayashi ryu and my sensei tell me exactly the same about being relaxed and when must strike or block. First the step then tsuki, must be always relaxed.

[@salahadinhadin7137]

Where do you train??

[@davezen8355]

@@salahadinhadin7137 i am from argentina. Dojo ken zen

[@Docinaplane]

They have a point with the need for relaxation versus tension. They would really have a problem with my use of independent weapon first striking, lol However, without seeing how they fight, I cannot assess their skills. If the fight with hands low and chin high, they are a KO waiting to happen.

[@kevionrogers2605]

More distance and more mass is transferred into the strike it is conservation of motion.

[@MarginalSC]

Just leave your shoulder relaxed, and punch/block with your hip/torso motion. You really don't need to employ your arm muscles that much at all. You tend to overthink it too much.

[@nohhknowwyeww]

axis placement?? focus on the dantien?--notice here you move effortless ly after mind on middle the rest moves with.-Ernie Moore Jr.

[@rightfootlefthand]

Matsubayashi Ryu and other traditional karate styles stress "settling the axis" prior to locking-down momentarily. With practice, this delay can be minimized to a fraction of a second. The advantage is delivering the technique with full power, as your feet, legs, and tanden are in the correct mechanical position, and internally you are relaxed prior to tightening (momentarily). By contrast, especially in sport karate (e.g. Shotokan), settling the axis prior to locking down is not necessary, as the few hundred milliseconds it costs can result in you not obtaining "the point". So it is not unusual to observe punches and arms preceeding the tanden and legs in sports karate. This trades off time to reach vs. power. To test this, you can try to break a board while punching without settling the tanden axis: it will be more difficult. HOWEVER, there are many moves in traditional karate that need to be performed while in motion without settling the axis. For example: uke, which are "receiving techniques" that need to be performed while in motion. Personally, I think one needs to master both ways of execution. Be aware of what you are doing, and why. If you can master both, then you can control "time" and "power", just like Dr. Strange 😊

[@kevionrogers2605]

Also it seems he wants you to use the momentum of the stepping to propel the strike.

[@uglystupidloser]

and the twisting of the body that follows after grounding your feet. yusukes just too stiff for their taste, i think.

[@kevionrogers2605]

@@uglystupidloser that happens in Japanese styles such as Shotokan, Shito, Kyokushin, GojuKai, and derivatives. It took me years to relax and it wasn't until I learned boxing at w professional gym did I truly learn to relax. The tension helps to buttress and support the strikes to reduce chances of injuries at the expense of absolute momentum.

[@uglystupidloser]

@@kevionrogers2605 yeah the whip to propel and the baseball bat to land. this is one of the few things i naturally do, and was noticed for by adults when i was a kid. i sucked at everything else though. anyways, harder for me to do when i cant use my legs that well now.

[@SlickTim9905]

It's the drunken limp beatle technique. You have to dangle, then dange some more. I think he is illustrating that point by Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon. It has to be like light flowing across the deck. One thing I can't see is are you pulling forward with your front toes at the moment of contact with the ground? I start to see it and then your focus shifts and it's gone.

[@ytb460]

I had a teacher who did karate and went to Japan and said they taught him to be relaxed and move like this so he switched to Yiquan as this is the focus from lesson 1. The whole body needs to be connected. It seems yours isnt. Do zhan zhuan and connect everything with the middle point in the belly. Then do small connected movements and slowly start moving. You have skipped all these points which is what most do. In yiquan the 'form' is actually an expression of inner power and personal for each person. I think this is what many forms were but then became concrete and copied with no internal aspect. Sawai Kenichi switched to yiquan and used these principles to influence Kyokushin apparently. It goes to show that we are all doing the same things really and need to understand and connect our bodies and use who body power en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenichi_Sawai

[@Smokie1306]

there hips are open, you fokus 2 mutch on the Form. Open your Hips - little ! bit like in WC-and you have a red Body line. Your Style is 2 seperate the upper and the lower body, they connect the Body and 2 do that you need 2 open the hips, so the energy can flow, ita a feeling. Take a pillow, take the inside out, newspaper in, nail this on a wall, stand before and punch it, your fist is a mix between vertical x horizontal. Focus on the hips and you know what they mean. With this exercise you train a lot, just be open and try this.

[@brunocaroortega3146]

Dud, I really can se the change in your speed.

[@ronski50]

In a Kuro-obi video, Katsunori Kikuno said his power has increased by knowing how to relax. Now I know what he means.

[@flashrun6093]

I think that Nakas punch is more like a faint to setup the throw.

[@kingsman8475]

Wow!! I did not realize after these years the obvious but subtle difference of Japanese karate in contrast to Okinawan karate.

[@stuarthughes3747]

i think no matter what you do it wont be right for these guys ..they dont seem to encourge at all .. best part was seeing naka sensei for me

[@uglystupidloser]

sensei seth just released a video about systema. it might give you a hint on loosening up and relaxing for your movement. if you want to check it out.

[@waldorfmartialarts8320]

The technique is not released until the front foot touches the ground? The breath from the tandem is released at the same time? Is this right? The body remains relaxed until impact and then relaxes immediately?

[@lucamarcucci2142]

I find the lesson on not telegraphing the attacks, very valuable. I'm wondering if they've gone too far in this slippery slope that is relaxation. Without finding a balance In the tension and extension of the body, is it very hard to make a natural and elastic movement and moving your body mass in the most efficient and effective way. In my opinion, the modern interpretation of shotokan that I have found for example, in the teaching of scott langley sensei, Naka Tatsuya sensei or André Bertel sensei is a way smarter and efficient way of moving the body. This is of course based on my personal fighting inclination but to me calling shotokan a watered down version of okinawan karate is not correct at least in the body mechanics area (kata interpretation is another matter and I admit that is not the style's best thing)

[@Noone-rt6pw]

You know, the fellow was constantly leaning forward. What would the purpose be? Others lean as they punch which I assume is to put a little more oommf in their strike. Tatsuo Shimabuku did that punching, unless there's another intent.

[@gndolapsakis1]

I think you turn hip joint too early in oi-zuki ,you need a less agressive aproach and the support leg for a moment needs more weight to stabilize the mooving joint, there for should be pussed downwards a little bit more witout trembling.Speed will come from a tiny floating moment- more of a sense- which you can accelarete the step with stability and neutrallity.

[@ekitai-budo1529]

t has everything to do with 'feeling' you can't learn this by just copying the movements. After 25 years of Shotokan Karate I've been training Tai Chi and Chi Kung for 17 years, I found out to learn to 'feel' in your movements and to scan your body as it were....The mistake we make is that you want to make your focus on the movements too beautiful

[@andrewblack7852]

So if the motion is too hard, you soften. If too soft you add tension. Both are pointing at the same thing, the middle. The middle is not soft or hard. How can you know it?? It’s already there in daily life. Natural state is like a wild creature. Watch them. They aren’t ever stiff nor ever soft. They can always move incredibly fast at any instant. They know the truth, something is coming ,( the next moment).

[@Deoxys_da2]

I don't get it what is point of that relax movement while in a real fight

[@eatingbitter1756]

"Down Below"

[@frasera11]

ya right,,what good is that relaxation going to do in a real fight,,ask one of those sensei's to hot a bag while relaxed and you'll find the bag doesn't move,,that is not karate put thats my opinion

[@nohhknowwyeww]

Try to move while bent over..carrying your torso or shoving it inhibits movement. Placing the axis aligns the spine. Once aligned stay together. Move your core and you can act from stability.-Ernie Moore Jr.

[@sassuki]

I think the relaxation principle shown here is not realistic, as the Hikite is ment to pull the arm of the opponent, which means muscle will be involved no matter what you do. May be the ultimate goal is to have half of the body tensed to pull, and the other half relaxed to punch. But I am not sure this is even doable!!! :D

[@edojanic2942]

It is obvious that you make a step forward first and after that punch .Step forward and punch have to be finished at the same time,not one after the other.

[@addeside]

The same way we move. I'm a wadoka.

[@YoukaiSlayer12]

Fascinating, it’s going to be interesting to watch when you guys move into doing katas.

[@kdefensemartialarts8097]

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