The True Story of Jordan and Jerry Krause

[@moseslofton8245]

Detroit was not old when they started losing to the Chicago Bulls

[@thesentinelsfootballchanne3212]

If I was mike, I'd think the same thing too. I'd hold a huge grudge and humiliate this man. Mike actually did it by being 6-0 in the finals and I'd imagine that's why Krause wanted to break up the team. Because he was sick of Michael Jordan's success rubbing it in his face. But it's his fault. We know MJ's an asshole but Krause started it. We got there because when Krause told Mike that he was "Property of the Chicago Bulls" he dehumanized him. Mike realized that immediately. You can't trust anyone like that anyway.

[@williammanket1132]

Ceno broke that down Michael was against all the move Jerry Krause was going to make to improve the team so Michael can win. Jerry was right.

[@doitall36]

Krause built the entire team that won championships.MJ tried opposed most moves that Krause made ....Jordan wanted him to draft certaim players and sign certain players..As we saw later, Jordan was not a good GM so his moves would not have worked..Mike couldnt control him that is the biggest problem Jordan had. The same problem he had with Isaiah .He couldnt beat him..He hates isaiah but not Rodman

[@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz]

@@thesentinelsfootballchanne3212 No athlete or competitor is as great as Jordan is without being very vengeful.

[@thedream5095]

When Michael was having success krause was also having success cause they were on the same team…

[@thedream5095]

Krause saying that was just business talk when you’re signed to somebody you’re their property when you’re signed to a music label you’re their property it’s the truth 🤷🏾‍♂️ it’s not disrespectful

[@leonblack751]

Krause wanted MJ too kiss his ass.And we see this kind of stuff today. I aint kissing your ass when am the Goat.

[@thedream5095]

Michael Jordan is in his feelings because krause didn’t pick the players he wanted even though it worked out great 🥴🥴🥴 mj wanted him to kiss his ass not the other way around

[@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz]

@@thedream5095 No, Jordan instilled the winning mentality that changed the culture. Their first beef was over Jordan wanting to play while Krause wanted him to sit. You Jordan haters favorite player, Scottie Pippen, also hated Krause. All you have to do is look at the stats of every player that Jordan played with once they left him to see his impact.

[@thedream5095]

@@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz how come Jordan couldn’t install the winning mentality to the players he had before 🤔🤔 HE WANTED THEM TRADED but didn’t get the players he asked for so he got in his feelings about it 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz]

So the KZbin dude who beefs with 5,000,000 black men who've never met him wants to tell people about "letting shyt go" lmao??

[@trevondash811]

Exactly 😂..ceno still hurt over the lost. I still see Isiah talking about it. He needs to let it go. Lol

[@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz]

@trevondash811 His content is entertaining but he's also a bipolar weirdo.

[@youngskyler7568]

Ceno we gotta stop saying the Pistons was old they wasn't the Bulls just figured them out 😂😂 Isaiah Dumars and Rodman wasn't even over 30 years old

[@trevondash811]

Ceno still hurt. Ceno gotta let it go. His boy Isiah gotta let it go. Jordan been quiet. He only brought it because he was making the documentary.

[@BattleTruth]

And the franchise tanked a decade after MJ NOW MAKE ANOTHER MJ

[@thedream5095]

Mj also tanked after the bulls 🤷🏾‍♂️ came back from retirement and couldn’t make the playoffs

[@thedream5095]

Point is he didn’t have all this success by himself

[@BattleTruth]

@@thedream5095 Your slow

[@thedream5095]

@@BattleTruth The truth hurts 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@BattleTruth]

@thedream5095 Your just slow and not worth wasting my time to

[@marvinpowerwilliams5373]

Thankyou Karceno!!! I love the Jordan stories, my favorite💯💪🏽

[@Tampa81333]

This the Ceno for life that we all need

[@fatesandgates]

There are only 4 people who could ever control Dennis Rodman: Jordan, Isiah Thomas, Phil Jackson, and Chuck Daly.

[@MrJ1S]

This why u let the players play not make moves...but they let bron turn into leGm and u see how that goes But id hate if my boss called me property too

[@DavidoJohnson-p4y]

We know the truth, The truth hurts, Ain't that the truth 😂

[@davidsyked9420]

When your contract states a bonus for making the playoffs, you wants too play

[@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz]

@@davidsyked9420 Jordan played because he promised the fanbase that they'd make the playoffs every year. He donated his entire salary in 2001 to charity after 9/11. Don't project your broke, bottomfeeder mentality onto Michael Jordan.

[@davidsyked9420]

@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz 911 was 2001, I'm talking about rookie year 1984

[@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz]

@@davidsyked9420 In his rookie year he played the full season and already had a sneaker deal never seen before. Try to stop saying stpd sht.

[@ashtonjackfanny]

He still running with the pistons were old when Isiah was late 20s 30 years old and dumars is the same age as Jordan. Jordan won 3 rings with the oldest team in the league you sound insane

[@Willworld.]

Zeke was only 32 when he retired.. like u said idk where this narrative of the pistons was old when Jordan started winning

[@khaalithmckay]

All i know is, after Jerry broke up the team, the Bulls aint been the same since. So i think Jordan knew what he was talking about.

[@davidsyked9420]

it was never the Bulls intention too win a championship, they signed Oakley and traded for Cartwright a backup center for Patrick Ewings, Bulls thing was to fill the stadium off of MJ name,

[@nephewdavis1225]

What up ceno happy new year

[@kendrickbell8525]

I remember when they had that bulls ring of honor bulls tribute last year and the fans booed and made krause widow cry, the fans were told to apologize. I believe that's why mike did a virtual appearance.

[@Pimping9167]

Jerry Krause broke up the team around the right time... could he gave them one more season.. maybe... Dennis rodman was old, Scottie pippen declining fast... Jordan has a good 2 more season left but the core was basically done

[@WildL23]

Yea Jerry Krause built some of the team but Jerry is also responsible for destroying the team. The Bulls never did anything without Michael. Scottie and Phil, so you never break up a tram like that. If those guys wanted to play 10 more seasons, they earned it. And when you challenge a guy like Michael Jordan, whatever happens to you and your family is something you should have thought about before you challenged Michael. I don't care about Jerry's wife crying. If she was one of ours, nobody would care about her tears. Who's tears has she ever cried about.

[@WildL23]

If the lord bless me with the best team and best player in history and instead of being greatful I break them up for any reason, aren't I being an ungrateful little spoiled brat?Especially if I never win another championship for the city like my big mouth claimed I would. If I'm God, why should I send you anything else knowing that you're hping to break it up for any reason??????????????

[@TheTrut416]

They could've had 9 straight rings

[@godzillathecreator467]

He was a not smart person. He's the reason the dynasty ended. Yes they were getting older but I believe they had 1 more season to go for chip.

[@thedream5095]

@@godzillathecreator467 yall won 6 championships 😂😂😂 BE GRATEFUL who cares if you could’ve won one more YOU WON 6 OF EM appreciate that 🥴

[@augustsimmonssimmons1685]

Krause didn't draft Jordan

[@Thuran777]

Mike is not making up with Isaiah 😂😂😂

[@iwillelude9751]

Well most folks do not appreciate anything anymore nowadays.

[@williammanket1132]

Jerry was right. Michael Jordan tried to be the owner of a team and failed miserably.

[@Thuran777]

I'm from Chicago...and Krause said out of his own mouth that Mike never asked him for players. Quit capping

[@doitall36]

MJ wanted to be surrounded by his fellow Tar Heels Jordan was a University of North Carolina alumnus, and having found success there, he wanted to bring the best Tar Heels to Chicago. That year, guard Kenny Smith and forward Joe Wolf were the best available UNC products in the draft. Mike didn't oppose drafting Pippen, but his reaction to Krause's choice was 'I'd never heard of him' and 'He was from NAIA school.' But with the Bulls still owning the 10th pick, MJ wanted the team to draft Wolf instead of Grant, who played for the Tar Heels' ACC rival Clemson. "Dean Smith called me and ripped my rear end," Krause told Roland Lazenby in the book 'Michael Jordan The Life' via Forbes. "How could you do that, you dumbbell?' And Michael said, "What the hell? You took that dummy?' And for years, that's what he called Horace, to his face. Dummy." Joe was far from being a wolf in the NBA Well, the Georga native became one of the Bulls' best players during their first three-peat. Grant ended up starting 468 out of 546 regular season games played in Chicago. He averaged 12.6 points, 8.6 rebounds, 2.4 assists, 1.1 steals, and 1.1 blocks per game in a Bulls uniform. And yes, you could argue that things could have played out differently if the Bulls had taken Wolf over him in '87.

[@doitall36]

n 1991, Krause and Jordan also clashed when the Bulls' GM refused to trade for another Tar Heel and MJ's childhood idol Walter Davis. Jerry proved Mike wrong when Pippen and Grant helped him win the franchise's first championship that year. Five more banners followed, and Pippen played as his sidekick. The Bulls GM is always considered the villain in Jordan's story. Krause is known to have objected to Jordan's superstar whims many times during their time together. But as we saw in the 1987 NBA Draft and 1991, when he refused to trade for Davis, Krause was a visionary. He helped 'His Airness' deliver six titles to Chicago by putting him in his place and preventing the greatest player ever from meddling with management.

[@carltonellis66]

Mj wore a bulls t shirt saying the Property of Chicago bulls. Tell me again why jerry was wrong

[@M1...4]

Michael was wrong for showing a public dislike for Jerry..He had some of the team taking on that behavior ...Krause is reinsdorf's guy...The owner of the bulls..Reinsdorf should have stepped in and had a meeting with Michael and Krause....Cleared the air as to the direction of the team...Michael was the leader of the team but there was another way of handling that situation......

[@WildL23]

Yea Jerry Krause built some of the team but Jerry is also responsible for destroying the team. You never desyroy a Michael Jordan team. God gives you the best player and best team in history and you break them up?????????????? You deserve to loose. That's just being a spoiled brat of a general manager. The Bulls never did anything without Michael. Scottie and Phil, so you never break up a tram like that. If those guys wanted to play 10 more seasons, they earned it. And when you challenge a guy like Michael Jordan, whatever happens to you and your family is something you should have thought about before you challenged Michael. I don't care about Jerry's wife crying. If she was one of ours, nobody would care about her tears. Who's tears has she ever cried about. If the lord bless me with the best team and best player in history and instead of being greatful I break them up for any reason, aren't I being an ungrateful little spoiled brat?Especially if I never win another championship for the city like my big mouth claimed I would. If I'm God, why should I send you anything else knowing that you're hping to break it up for any reason??????????????

[@erickennedy8534]

Jordan wanted ten chips , and blames Krause for not getting that goal. Krause was a great G.M. , but his ego and Jordan ego ruined it \

[@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz]

@@erickennedy8534 Yes, it was "ruined" to the tune of 6 titles in 6 full Jordan seasons consecutively. You goofies just say anything lol.

[@edoria9]

Pistons werent old

[@carltonellis66]

The man said organization wins championships that's facts Mj didn't win 6 titles the bulls as a whole won 6 titles.

[@ShineAsTheSun-jb5bz]

How many championships did the Bulls win since Mike retired?

[@DwightDrew-s3q]

Micheal Jordan has always been disrespectful u know u disrespectful when ceno get to cursin lol😂

[@Brothahoskins]

It's clear you hate MJ

[@iwillelude9751]

😂

[@ordinaryextraordinarybrotha]

You be cracking me up saying what you're not going to put on KZbin it's on KZbin now

[@CornellScott-t9e]

Amazing video.

[@msohniner]

11:54 you said Jerry was sleeping with Jenny busss it was Phil not Jerry this is a horrible

[@Dinojong]

Where are you getting this nonsense from?

[@leonblack751]

You can stop that BS the pistons wasnt old dog.

[@snakebitten6967]

Karceno lying as usual to,prop up his boy Isaiah and pistons. The bias is crazy. Can’t take him serious with his revisionist history.. Soooo, Isaiah is 29, Dumars is 27, Rodman 29, Sally 26, Aguirre 31…All in their primes, with Aguirre on the tail end of his..Dennis is DPOY that year, iirc, Zeke is Allstar and Dumars is Dumars… MJ beat them at their height, that is the truth. Karceno sounded a bit like he getting dem Klutch bucks lol. Can’t listen to his bias. I lived through that era too and the Pistons were still at the top and one of the major teams to beat, being back to back champions. The hare people have for MJ is crazy. To diminish him, Karceno even lying about his favorite player and team. This is no different than a LeMedia take.

[@71Clorox]

Stop that bs about the pistons being old after the bulls beat them all them players still was playing more years,

[@kowaiskicritton]

Smh

[@71Clorox]

Take yo a.. to Detroit half of what u saying is not facts

[@Ricco-f2e]

Detroit BadBoy4Life _313_Love when you pop yo shit CeNo keep up the Great work my Guy🙏🏽👣💪🏽💯